The PokéCommunity Forums

The PokéCommunity Forums (https://www.pokecommunity.com/index.php)
-   Previous Generations (https://www.pokecommunity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=200)
-   -   6th Gen Should Delphox have different forms? (https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=327189)

pokelover6600 May 24th, 2014 10:49 AM

Should Delphox have different forms?
 
5 Attachment(s)
Throughout the years, we have had to put up with female Machamps and male Lupony. But Delphox is just too much. I think most agree that Delphox is a very feminine Pokemon. If you choose Fenniken as your starter, there is a very small chance that it will be male. However, if you put Delphox in the day care and hatch a Fenniken, there is a very small chance it will be female. It is my opinion, however, that a male Delphox is a bit odd, as Delphox appears to be a very feminine Pokemon. I wonder if perhaps there should be two different forms of Delphox, and maybe even Braixen. Who agrees with me? Attached are some "fan art" photos of these forms. What do you think?

Azar May 24th, 2014 11:28 AM

I don't know. I think that Delphox has a normal form for the two genders. We have other Pokémon that have a feminine form, but they have the two genders without problems.

Pokefan203302 May 24th, 2014 12:58 PM

Different Forms? No. Slight changes with gender like almost every pokemon before gen 5? Yes.

Howmander May 24th, 2014 2:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokelover6600 (Post 8266535)
Throughout the years, we have had to put up with female Machamps and male Lupony. But Delphox is just too much. I think most agree that Delphox is a very feminine Pokemon. If you choose Fenniken as your starter, there is a very small chance that it will be male. However, if you put Delphox in the day care and hatch a Fenniken, there is a very small chance it will be female. It is my opinion, however, that a male Delphox is a bit odd, as Delphox appears to be a very feminine Pokemon. I wonder if perhaps there should be two different forms of Delphox, and maybe even Braixen. Who agrees with me? Attached are some "fan art" photos of these forms. What do you think?

okay, once again, Delphox is not feminine, it's evolved form is not a dress, it's modeled after a Wizard's Robe (therefore gender neutral) the fact that it uses a stick as a magic wand during attacks should be a HUGE indication:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvIkQ7yn6iM

Lotus the Cat May 24th, 2014 4:22 PM

Regardless of the fact that the fur is meant to be a robe, Delphox still looks disappointing. Those alternate designs in the first post are better.

Howmander May 24th, 2014 4:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotus the Cat (Post 8266966)
Regardless of the fact that the fur is meant to be a robe, Delphox still looks disappointing. Those alternate designs in the first post are better.

except that 4 of them are alternate forms of Braixen, not Delphox

Cerberus87 May 24th, 2014 4:33 PM

This thread is BS. Delphox was based on a wizard, and that's what it looks like. It doesn't wear a "dress", but a robe. It looks feminine because it's a fox, and foxes have soft features. But there's nothing wrong with male Delphoxes at all.

Lotus the Cat May 24th, 2014 4:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howmander (Post 8266981)
except that 4 of them are alternate forms of Braixen, not Delphox

How is that a problem? A pokemon evolution usually looks something like is predecessor, which would be Braixen in this case.

Howmander May 24th, 2014 4:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotus the Cat (Post 8267002)
How is that a problem? A pokemon evolution usually looks something like is predecessor, which would be Braixen in this case.

um... cause we're talking about Delphox? That's in the title of this thread? So by your logic alternate forms of Gyarados should be Magikarp variants, or alternate forms of Galade should look like Ralts. Why not start making alternate forms of Chesnaught that look like Sunkern? Maybe a mega evolution of Xerneas that looks like Munna? If everything can look like anything, what's the point of discussing looks at all then?

Lotus the Cat May 24th, 2014 9:21 PM

Whoa, way to take it to extremes. Obviously there are some pokemon evolutions that look nothing like their predecessors. Alternatively, there are heaps that look very similar to.

E.g.
Growlithe and Arcanine
Bulbasaur through to Venasaur
Ekans and Arbok
Pikachu and Raichu
Mankey and Primeape
Ponyta and Rapidash
Houndor and Houndoom
etc...

If one were to propose an alternate to Delphox it makes more sense to use Braixen as the inspiration rather than the current Delphox.

Hikamaru May 24th, 2014 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cerberus87 (Post 8266986)
This thread is BS. Delphox was based on a wizard, and that's what it looks like. It doesn't wear a "dress", but a robe. It looks feminine because it's a fox, and foxes have soft features. But there's nothing wrong with male Delphoxes at all.

This is totally true. That "dress" on Delphox is actually a wizard's robe made of fur, fitting in with the "mage" role it has within the Kalos starters and their RPG-themed designs which also has Chesnaught as the "fighter" and Greninja as the "thief".

I have a male Delphox and I don't see anything wrong with him.

Hiatus May 24th, 2014 10:06 PM

Delphox, Greninja, and Chesnaught are equivalent, so if one wound up getting a different form, same would have to be applied to other two, I feel. :( Plus, if all Kalos starters got different forms, some people would consider them to be more superior to all others from previous gens, which I'm sure GameFreak wouldn't want. At some point in future, though, I'd definitely like to see them get mega-evolutions.

PSNGhost May 26th, 2014 9:17 AM

Gender differences are a thing to consider, Formes? No way.

Arylett Charnoa May 26th, 2014 9:59 AM

I'd like a gender difference. To be honest, I find Pokemon that veer heavily towards one gender but are actually the other to be... very agitating. So a subtle gender difference (mostly in the case of Braixen, who undeniably looks like it's wearing a skirt. Not a robe like Delphox, but a skirt) would be fine. No Forme though. I don't think starters get those. (I await the moment where somebody quotes me to say I'm wrong.)

Also, I do think that Delphox does look kind of masculine in several ways. For instance, the white under its chin looked like a wizard beard the first time I saw it. So it could go either way; its robe can be a dress for females in your mind or it can have a white wizard's beard for males.

Altairis May 26th, 2014 2:53 PM

I think its quite ironic how there are some Pokemon who look quite masculine but nobody ever protested and said we need a female Machamp form. So nope. I think we will all be able to survive if Delphox has a wizard's robe on - which is, ironically, not exclusively feminine at all.

Rivvon May 26th, 2014 4:56 PM

I never found Delphox to be feminine, and I see no problem with feminine Pokémon that are male, or masculine Pokémon that are female, so I say keep them the same. Gender differences aren't a big deal as they don't impact gameplay, but because I don't see people complaining that the knight-like Chesnaught looks a bit masculine but can still be female, I don't see why the (not particularly) feminine Delphox should have any differences to look more masculine.

Dr. Silver May 26th, 2014 5:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altairis (Post 8270378)
I think its quite ironic how there are some Pokemon who look quite masculine but nobody ever protested and said we need a female Machamp form. So nope. I think we will all be able to survive if Delphox has a wizard's robe on - which is, ironically, not exclusively feminine at all.

Nobody points out that Machamp is female because no one likes to think about it. I mean, if Machamp is female, then it's breasts are constantly showing >.>

acatfrommars May 26th, 2014 5:26 PM

I agree with Pleitharchia on this one. Although Delphox was based off a wiard, it does seem more feminine, however if Game Freak went and changed the forms of Delphox they would need to do this with all of the other starters o there would be problems. It would just not be worth it to do so.

stelstravsky May 26th, 2014 5:32 PM

I personally hoped for a female Fennekin when I started, but I wasn't too disappointed with a male one either, as I don't like being picky with genders and I know Delphox wasn't made to be feminine (unlike Gardevoir, for example). Although I don't completely love Delphox's design, I think the whole mage-thief-melee trio is pretty neat.

Pepperton May 26th, 2014 5:34 PM

I don't care enough to want Game Freak to make Delphox seem superior to the other starters. I got a male Fennekin in my current play through Y, and I didn't bother soft resetting. Way too easy to simply ignore the gender sign and look past it. There aren't any actual implications being a female has other than fitting the design of the Pokemon, so giving it a different form just because its original is too feminine seems a little absurd to me.

Hikamaru May 26th, 2014 7:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acatfrommars (Post 8270602)
I agree with Pleitharchia on this one. Although Delphox was based off a wiard, it does seem more feminine, however if Game Freak went and changed the forms of Delphox they would need to do this with all of the other starters o there would be problems. It would just not be worth it to do so.

There have been cases where one starter had gender differences but the others didn't. Ones that come to mind are Blaziken, Meganium and Venusaur, who have gender differences (in Blaziken's case it even applies to its pre-evo Combusken) yet the other two starters in their respective trios still lacked gender differences while the Sinnoh, Unova and Kalos starters don't have any gender differences.

Kameken May 26th, 2014 7:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Silver (Post 8270588)
Nobody points out that Machamp is female because no one likes to think about it. I mean, if Machamp is female, then it's breasts are constantly showing >.>

Kind of like every non-human animal with mammary glands ever.

Cerberus87 May 27th, 2014 1:41 AM

The male Gardevoir thing is something they should've retconned in 4th gen.

Howmander May 27th, 2014 3:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 8270812)
There have been cases where one starter had gender differences but the others didn't. Ones that come to mind are Blaziken, Meganium and Venusaur, who have gender differences (in Blaziken's case it even applies to its pre-evo Combusken) yet the other two starters in their respective trios still lacked gender differences while the Sinnoh, Unova and Kalos starters don't have any gender differences.

I don't think that's what the original poster meant by gender differences. a little nub here and there is probably a far cry from the difference between Galade and Gardevoir (which is, I'm pretty sure, the level of gender differences the original poster wanted) but further to that, I can hardly tell teh difference between some of the ones you mentioned: Venusaur has a point on the top of the female's tree, male blacken has slightly longer horns (antennae?) male combusken has slightly longer head feathers, and male Meganium has longer antennae. I think what's worse than having the gender differences is bothering having such a minute difference between them that you can't even tell unless they're side by side. At least female wobbuffet has lipstick and female pikachu has a rounded tail.

Lihtal May 27th, 2014 3:25 PM

Talk about a storm in a glass of water. Before the release of X and Y i was towards choosing Fenekin as my starter but it´s last evo made the cut for me... that is my only opinion.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 3:49 AM.


Like our Facebook Page Follow us on Twitter © 2002 - 2018 The PokéCommunity™, pokecommunity.com.
Pokémon characters and images belong to The Pokémon Company International and Nintendo. This website is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by Nintendo, Creatures, GAMEFREAK, The Pokémon Company or The Pokémon Company International. We just love Pokémon.
All forum styles, their images (unless noted otherwise) and site designs are © 2002 - 2016 The PokéCommunity / PokéCommunity.com.
PokéCommunity™ is a trademark of The PokéCommunity. All rights reserved. Sponsor advertisements do not imply our endorsement of that product or service. User generated content remains the property of its creator.

Acknowledgements
Use of PokéCommunity Assets
vB Optimise by DragonByte Technologies Ltd © 2023.