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shootingfoul May 26th, 2014 10:12 PM

Anyone else unhappy about Korrina's disrespect in gym battle?
 
She already lost to you once earlier, she knows your strength. She should know not to hold back. Unfortunately, When fighting her at her gym, I was expecting a good battle. Yet, she only use 3 Pokemon that are 10 levels lower than me, then I was shocked and thought "where's her secret weapon, the 2 Lucarios?" Is she seriously going to end the battle without using them just like that? Is this a serious gym battle or a joke? What does she think we are? Not to mention Mega Lucario. The battle would have been much more exciting if she used those 5 Pokemons including Mega Lucario. Well too bad, apparently we learned today that every gym leaders holds back against every one of their challengers and treat them as if he/she is giving a test for little babies instead of fighting an honorable duel. Such disrespect.

If you live in a Pokemon world, remember, do not apply to become a gym leader. If you do, you have to use only 1 type and you have to pretend to suck.

acatfrommars May 26th, 2014 10:24 PM

Yeah, it was a dissapointment. However as a trainer, the first time you go up against a Gym Leader you're a scrub. They know nothing about you, but you know about them. Not until later you defeat them and are the Champion that they release their full talent. That is when we verse a Hawlucha, Machamp and Lucario all between levels 50-70. I admit though, her team was pretty pathetic at first, and the only thing worthwhile was seeing Mega Lucario and obtaining his Mega Stone.

Cerberus87 May 27th, 2014 1:36 AM

I was pissed that I had to fight her again, but I didn't care since the Lucario battle is scripted (you'll always go first).

Megan May 27th, 2014 1:51 AM

You have to keep in mind, that gym leaders have to stand in one place, unable to change their team. That means if they had better Pokemon other challengers (like your rival) wouldn't stand a chance against them.

Foamy96 May 27th, 2014 2:09 PM

Also with the exp. share leveling up your pokemon quicker, it was gonna be obvious that you will win unless your team was rubbish

Hiatus May 27th, 2014 9:53 PM

I have to agree with everybody; Experience Share is what made battling this easy overall in Pokémon X and Y, and not just the one against Korrina. If you had it disabled, I'm sure much of your team would have been at lower levels, resulting in you having more of a tougher challenge. =) I personally haven't equipped it, because I loved this item; without Exp. Share, I would've had a much harder time building my team.

Sebastian_Sommer May 28th, 2014 1:53 AM

I agree with Peitharchia that the exp share had made the game substantially easier to play since there's less need to grind for exp. I'd like to remind you all that in the previous generation game (BW2), it's been implied that gym leaders are holding back against their challengers in order to give them a chance to win. For instance, gym leader Cheren didn't use his original team from BW and had to make use of low level normal type team. But if you challenge him again in the world tournament at post game, he uses a stronger team with additional new members.

Pepperton May 28th, 2014 6:32 PM

It may be a systematical thing. Logically, gym leaders must get appointed to their positions due to experience and skill in battling. Therefore, they've probably already raised high level Pokemon too strong to take on challengers at their gym's point in the game. So, they breed their actual team and use lesser versions in actual Gym battles.

PSNGhost May 28th, 2014 10:26 PM

This is all the exp. share's fault. Ugh... can't live with i, can't live without it.

shootingfoul May 29th, 2014 8:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian_Sommer (Post 8272755)
I agree with Peitharchia that the exp share had made the game substantially easier to play since there's less need to grind for exp. I'd like to remind you all that in the previous generation game (BW2), it's been implied that gym leaders are holding back against their challengers in order to give them a chance to win. For instance, gym leader Cheren didn't use his original team from BW and had to make use of low level normal type team. But if you challenge him again in the world tournament at post game, he uses a stronger team with additional new members.

There could be 2 possibilities still. They could either be holding back, or it could simply be that they get stronger over time as well. So, it's hard to know which one is the case, but given that Korrina didn't use her 2 Lucarios, neither did she use mega evolution on you, you're probably right.

Assuming gym leaders have to hold back, is there a rule of how much they have to? Since in the game, you start with Viola. What if another trainer starts the adventure with Wulfric? There was also the 8th gym leader from Pokemon Diamond/Pearl that thinks his challengers are too boring. wouldn't using crappier Pokemon solve his problem?

Sebastian_Sommer May 29th, 2014 6:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shootingfoul (Post 8274555)
There could be 2 possibilities still. They could either be holding back, or it could simply be that they get stronger over time as well. So, it's hard to know which one is the case, but given that Korrina didn't use her 2 Lucarios, neither did she use mega evolution on you, you're probably right.

Assuming gym leaders have to hold back, is there a rule of how much they have to? Since in the game, you start with Viola. What if another trainer starts the adventure with Wulfric? There was also the 8th gym leader from Pokemon Diamond/Pearl that thinks his challengers are too boring. wouldn't using crappier Pokemon solve his problem?

I recall in the new anime of pokemon, Ash had attempted to challenge the Lumiose city gym from the first episode. He got thrown out of the entrance since there's a machine that scans for the trainer's badges to see if they qualify. Maybe the trainers are meant to challenge the gyms in a particular order like in the game?

shootingfoul May 30th, 2014 9:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian_Sommer (Post 8275356)
I recall in the new anime of pokemon, Ash had attempted to challenge the Lumiose city gym from the first episode. He got thrown out of the entrance since there's a machine that scans for the trainer's badges to see if they qualify. Maybe the trainers are meant to challenge the gyms in a particular order like in the game?

In that logic, 1st city will have a river of people with no place to walk. Wait in 8 hour line to challenge gym. 8th city will be ghost town except for it's citizens.

atomtanned June 1st, 2014 7:21 AM

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Originally Posted by shootingfoul (Post 8276328)
In that logic, 1st city will have a river of people with no place to walk. Wait in 8 hour line to challenge gym. 8th city will be ghost town except for it's citizens.

Yeah, I always thought this was pretty illogical, unless there weren't that many people who ever tried to challenge gyms anyways.


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