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Oryx May 28th, 2014 8:44 AM

On Tuesdays Oryx and Triforce think it's Wednesday
 
Take me to your Raichu's house.

Shining Raichu May 28th, 2014 8:47 AM

I'll applaud anybody who can reference my homosexuality and use a meme from 2006 in the same post.

-Jared- May 28th, 2014 8:49 AM

Sooooo people were talking about why they joined PC?

I will admit, it was Pokemon ShinyGold that made me join, but the people that made me stay. :P

@Andy That would require me to go search memes from 2006 and that is not something I feel like revisiting. :P

Poki May 28th, 2014 8:59 AM

Oh please. I'm still in school. Boo. :(

Pinkie-Dawn May 28th, 2014 9:26 AM

The only reason I joined PC was because I was desperately in need to find another Pokémon forum to join after getting banned from SPPF, when someone stole my account, and BMGF, when my suicidal thoughts got me into serious trouble.


I've never heard of that meme before, because I never seen it used in youtube, in other forums, and in KYM.

Alexander Nicholi May 28th, 2014 9:28 AM

Heh, I joined for ROM hacking, since my join date doesn't really correspond to a release of sorts by GF.

I'm wanting to get my old join date back (November 21, 2009) but idk what the status quo on that is between Geoff and I. I think he wants me to be certain I'm willing to give up everything but my name and usergroup, and I am. 2009 was my most favorite year aside from 2013. :3

Oryx May 28th, 2014 9:35 AM

You can't just...have them merged? That's what I did when I got my account back...kept the posts from both accounts, the join date from Touj, and the name from Oryx.

Pinkie-Dawn May 28th, 2014 9:37 AM

Does merging accounts affect the user's post counts, friends list, contacts, and emblems he/she received?

Oryx May 28th, 2014 9:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8273187)
Does merging accounts affect the user's post counts, friends list, contacts, and emblems he/she received?

Basically, one is the "host" account, and the other has all their stuff put into it. Friends get merged, posts get merged, I assume contacts get merged. If emblems don't get merged (I'm not sure on that one since I didn't have any on Oryx when it was done), they can be reissued anyway.

Pinkie-Dawn May 28th, 2014 9:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Oryx (Post 8273192)
Basically, one is the "host" account, and the other has all their stuff put into it. Friends get merged, posts get merged, I assume contacts get merged. If emblems don't get merged (I'm not sure on that one since I didn't have any on Oryx when it was done), they can be reissued anyway.

Ah, sounds good. I don't like the idea of two merged accounts sharing only the number of posts, friends, contacts, and emblems from the most recent account.

Nihilego May 28th, 2014 9:47 AM

I'm pretty sure emblems don't work since emblems afaik aren't a default vB system so the forum doesn't really know how to handle them. ): I could be wrong tho.

Also this title YES

Oryx May 28th, 2014 9:56 AM

I wouldn't have bothered merging if the posts weren't carried over. I just wanted my couple hundred (I think?) posts from Oryx on Toujours, that was all.

Already planning my name change in...September though. >:3

Hikamaru May 28th, 2014 10:19 AM

I joined PC because I had been a victim of mod power abuse at my previous forum plus I needed to chat with people who actually care about my love of Pokemon. In real life I was often mocked for being a Pokemon fan in their 20's.

Netto Azure May 28th, 2014 11:06 AM

That title is a lie. I'm not out of school yet. >: (

No name changes planned in the future.

Aeroblast May 28th, 2014 11:17 AM

*sigh* I start my summer school session in less than 3 hours.

Raine May 28th, 2014 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Aeroblast (Post 8273273)
*sigh* I start my summer school session in less than 3 hours.

I've already been in summer school for nearly 4 weeks ;; For some reason, most of my courses, the teachers will switch by the 7 week mark. Maybe to give them all a summer vacation XD

Oryx May 28th, 2014 11:19 AM

Anyone who's not out of school should sue their school for cruel and unusual punishment.

Aeroblast May 28th, 2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Oryx (Post 8273277)
Anyone who's not out of school should sue their school for cruel and unusual punishment.

When I was in high school, we didn't start summer break until usually around June 20th ;_; (and in Korea, summer school doesn't start until mid-July, but we have longer winter breaks)

Of course that had to change the year I was a senior.

Raine May 28th, 2014 11:33 AM

I have no choice, but to attend summer school since I started in January versus September of 2013 like normal people do. So we're basically playing catch up with them until we're at the same place this September.

Cherrim May 28th, 2014 11:40 AM

Yaaay a new DCC! No more double posts. ;w;

I'm not taking school over the summer this year. It's a bit of a long story why I'm not doing anything at all but it's relaxing to have a break for once. My school does full terms three times a year and I've been in school nonstop for 2+ years now... so it's nice to have a term off for the first time in a while.

Sylphiel May 28th, 2014 1:28 PM

Pretty sure my high school, and maybe my middle school? was one of those that didn't get out until sometime in June...I think it was early June, it's been long enough that I don't remember.

At least, up until they started block scheduling, the last year I was there. We got out in May then, hooray! Except the tradeoff was that we started in like early August, like at least two weeks before any other school around there and of course it was during the hottest part of the summer.

Why.

Nathan May 28th, 2014 1:29 PM

I'll be released around June 20th. But I'll have 2-3 months of vacations so it's all good :D

Raine May 28th, 2014 1:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 8273438)
I'll be released around June 20th. But I'll have 2-3 months of vacations so it's all good :D

Mmm...2-3 months to spend simply gaming like a couch potato would be so nice right now.

El Héroe Oscuro May 28th, 2014 1:42 PM

That's one of the great things about my college. We got out April 13th, about a month before everyone else. Helps a lot when it comes to getting a job before all the other college kids get back, as we get a jump start on the job market.

Nathan May 28th, 2014 1:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanille Sky (Post 8273449)
Mmm...2-3 months to spend simply gaming like a couch potato would be so nice right now.

Yes, I'm so impatient right now :D

Nihilego May 28th, 2014 2:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanille Sky (Post 8273449)
Mmm...2-3 months to spend simply gaming like a couch potato would be so nice right now.

I can't think of anything worse, haha. Not that I think there's something wrong with just chilling out - but if I do it for too long I end up frustrated and irritable with how little's happening. I need to be, like, constantly doing stuff. If I don't I just start feeling so generally bad. But I think it's good! Keeps me busy enjoying life. 8)

Raine May 28th, 2014 2:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Axton (Post 8273479)
I can't think of anything worse, haha. Not that I think there's something wrong with just chilling out - but if I do it for too long I end up frustrated and irritable with how little's happening. I need to be, like, constantly doing stuff. If I don't I just start feeling so generally bad. But I think it's good! Keeps me busy enjoying life. 8)

Haha, well, if you live in a city where little is going on, and your friends are all in a different city studying then there's nothing much I do on a daily basis other than gaming during my free time ;; I'd like to go out once or twice a week to get some fresh air, but there's honestly nothing to do here! D:

Kurono May 28th, 2014 2:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Catholic Nun (Post 8273115)
I'll applaud anybody who can reference my homosexuality and use a meme from 2006 in the same post.

I'm not sure how I feel about immediately coming up with the words: "Pool's Closed."

Oryx May 28th, 2014 3:09 PM

I feel so anxious because I'm on break now. I SHOULD BE WORKING!

Meganium May 28th, 2014 3:14 PM

OH HEY NEW DCC HELLOOOOO.

I've been out of school since May 15. Going back in a couple weeks to finish it off.

edit: oh it has a 2nd page wow ok

Sylphiel May 28th, 2014 3:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanille Sky (Post 8273505)
Haha, well, if you live in a city where little is going on, and your friends are all in a different city studying then there's nothing much I do on a daily basis other than gaming during my free time ;; I'd like to go out once or twice a week to get some fresh air, but there's honestly nothing to do here! D:

That's pretty much how I spent my summers when I was younger. Nothing to do but sit around and play games or watch TV, as there was nothing to do in that town (that didn't involve needing a car to get around, and those kind of weren't available to me since both my parents worked at the time and I didn't know many people who would drive me around).

Oh, and make sure my siblings weren't about to beat each other up again. Yeah.

Raine May 28th, 2014 3:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sylphiel (Post 8273606)
That's pretty much how I spent my summers when I was younger. Nothing to do but sit around and play games or watch TV, as there was nothing to do in that town (that didn't involve needing a car to get around, and those kind of weren't available to me since both my parents worked at the time and I didn't know many people who would drive me around).

Oh, and make sure my siblings weren't about to beat each other up again. Yeah.

Even with my own car, I'm sort of limited to what I can do because of my parents ;; That, and like I said, nothing to do! I want my childhood back when everything seemed fun XD

Tsutarja May 28th, 2014 3:57 PM

o hai new DCC

I've been out of school since May 2nd and working since May 22nd. Yeah, that's my month to date. At least I don't have classes now but I do start two six-week classes in July.

Hiatus May 28th, 2014 4:02 PM

I don't think I'll be going anywhere this summer, unfortunately. :( My family are planning to visit California for a week to meet and catch up with relatives, but still haven't decided yet. If we don't, then I'll most likely stay at home all day, play games like you guys, and browse Internet.

Sir Codin May 28th, 2014 4:05 PM

Well, the grades came in.

The good news is that I passed what I absolutely needed to and what I didn't pass I pass enough that I'm still eligible for FAFSA, so I can have some of my full-time pay go towards a Playstation 4 (don't tell my mom, shhh!).

Bad news is that I didn't get the requirement that the class I hated the most fulfilled. Still, there are other ways to get it.

Tsutarja May 28th, 2014 4:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Peitharchia (Post 8273636)
I don't think I'll be going anywhere this summer, unfortunately. :( My family are planning to visit California for a week to meet and catch up with relatives, but still haven't decided yet. If we don't, then I'll most likely stay at home all day, play games like you guys, and browse Internet.

I'd be so jealous of you if you went to California. California is literally my dream vacation spot :O

Oryx May 28th, 2014 4:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Zach (Post 8273649)
I'd be so jealous of you if you went to California. California is literally my dream vacation spot :O

You already live in a vacation spot!

In other news, I am down. I don't know why, but I am. :(

Tsutarja May 28th, 2014 4:15 PM

LOL I wish I could call this place a vacation spot! I guess things just seem different for residents compared to tourists.

Sir Codin May 28th, 2014 4:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Zach (Post 8273649)
I'd be so jealous of you if you went to California. California is literally my dream vacation spot :O

California is a great vacation spot hidden underneath unbearable piles of oppressive statism and arguments about who gets the water. Believe me, I live there.

Pendraflare May 28th, 2014 5:09 PM

I would imagine, i've heard quite a bit of negative about living in San Francisco.

But I vacationed there and in Sacramento seven years ago, for the most part it was a nice time and we didn't run into many issues.

Sir Codin May 28th, 2014 5:13 PM

We also recently had a high-profile shooting in Santa Barbara, despite the fact that we have the strictest gun control in the country.

Eat it, libs.

Oryx May 28th, 2014 5:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CarcharOdin (Post 8273735)
We also recently had a high-profile shooting in Santa Barbara, despite the fact that we have the strictest gun control in the country.

Eat it, libs.

Come on, the rules were just reposted. Be nice, and don't tell millions of people that you don't know to eat it.

My boyfriend's from San Diego so I plan to go back there once he graduates. I'm pretty excited honestly.

Tsutarja May 28th, 2014 5:26 PM

San Diego is probably the city I'd visit in the summertime if I ever took a vacation to California. The weather there is just beyond perfect for me, especially considering it's along the coast and it's a place for me to cool off from all the hot Florida weather.

Sir Codin May 28th, 2014 5:52 PM

Santa Cruz also has a nice boardwalk, but mind the pot smokers...for...whatever reason.

Meganium May 28th, 2014 5:59 PM

You guys will looooove San Diego. It's an amazing city. Downtown, Little Italy, SEA WORLD. Best city ever. :)

Sir Codin May 28th, 2014 6:38 PM

San Francisco is also nice to visit every once in a while, but mind the traffic. People are insane.

Altairis May 28th, 2014 6:39 PM

D'aw, this title :( :( I still have school for 3 more full weeks. Oh goodie!

Yaaay, people coming to visit Cali :) Hope you have a nice time!

Steven May 28th, 2014 6:39 PM

My roommate really wants me to move to San Francisco with him. He used to live there, he loves it. I want to leave Ohio..but..y'know..

Fun fact: One of the most searched things on Google in California is Pokemon.

Oryx May 28th, 2014 6:50 PM

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Originally Posted by G.U.Y. (Post 8273837)
My roommate really wants me to move to San Francisco with him. He used to live there, he loves it. I want to leave Ohio..but..y'know..

Fun fact: One of the most searched things on Google in California is Pokemon.

Well you have to get out of Ohio. That place is toxic.

Tsutarja May 28th, 2014 6:51 PM

School gets out next week for the public school system in my area.

The San Fran Bay Area is another place I'd also like to visit.. just to see if I can find the locations of all the tech companies lol and to take pictures of the fog at the Golden Gate Bridge

Sonata May 28th, 2014 6:52 PM

I don't get out til next week.

And you should definitely move to cali. Middle america is suck.

Nick May 28th, 2014 6:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oryx (Post 8273750)
Come on, the rules were just reposted. Be nice, and don't tell millions of people that you don't know to eat it.

My boyfriend's from San Diego so I plan to go back there once he graduates. I'm pretty excited honestly.

So much better than living in stupid Jersey. Booo Jersey!

Livewire May 28th, 2014 6:57 PM

^ The above makes me want to watch the Jersey Shore South park episode, hahahaha so great.

Oryx May 28th, 2014 7:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Arago (Post 8273852)
So much better than living in stupid Jersey. Booo Jersey!

Well either way I wouldn't go back to Jersey haha; if I didn't end up in San Diego, I was looking at Seattle since AT&T HQ and all. Plus I already have friends there!

Alexander Nicholi May 28th, 2014 7:11 PM

Colorado Springs is absolutely beautiful. Amazing cowboy skies with mammoth mountains at your doorstep, not to mention all the military you could ask for. On the benevolent days we get rain, if you're lucky the mist will expose the facade of Cheyenne Mountain, and often times the clouds like to dance with Pikes Peak. The only big downside is it's so dry. :/

Sir Codin May 28th, 2014 7:29 PM

The Sierra Nevadas are also a great place to visit. Very beautiful in the winter and one of the best places around to go skiing. Really, go anywhere in California and it'll be a nice vacation spot. Except Amador County. Nothing to do there except bowl, watch movies, and hate Republicans because...well...Republicans.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oryx (Post 8273750)
Come on, the rules were just reposted. Be nice, and don't tell millions of people that you don't know to eat it.


Steven May 28th, 2014 8:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex (Post 8273869)
Colorado Springs is absolutely beautiful. Amazing cowboy skies with mammoth mountains at your doorstep, not to mention all the military you could ask for. On the benevolent days we get rain, if you're lucky the mist will expose the facade of Cheyenne Mountain, and often times the clouds like to dance with Pikes Peak. The only big downside is it's so dry. :/

You had me at "Colorado".

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Sir Codin May 28th, 2014 10:56 PM

Kelso was the second worst character on That 70's Show.

The worst was Donna.

Treecko May 28th, 2014 11:17 PM

I need to watch more That 70s Show I think. If only I wasn't so into Friends atm haha.

(Also is this a summer DCC or a "school is ending" DCC? If that makes sense. )

Nick May 28th, 2014 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CarcharOdin (Post 8274082)
Kelso was the second worst character on That 70's Show.

The worst was Donna.

I think he's my least favorite character in the history of television.

Sir Codin May 28th, 2014 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Arago (Post 8274097)
I think he's my least favorite character in the history of television.

Eh, I can tolerate Kelso to some degree. Donna embodies the worst things you could possibly find in a woman.

Steven May 29th, 2014 2:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CarcharOdin (Post 8274082)
Kelso was the second worst character on That 70's Show.

The worst was Donna.

GET THE HELL OUT

Donna was amazing. So was Kelso.

I hated Hide..or whatever his name was. No real reason other than I hate people like him.

curiousnathan May 29th, 2014 4:00 AM

That's 70's Show is the Satan spawn of television for me. :x

Tsutarja May 29th, 2014 4:09 AM

My parents used to watch That 70s Show when it was still on, and that was back when they thought sitcoms were still tolerable.

Shining Raichu May 29th, 2014 4:44 AM

That 70s Show was great! Kitty and Donna were the best. The guys were kind of annoying, but sitcom men usually are.

*cough* Ray Barone *cough*

Pinkie-Dawn May 29th, 2014 7:28 AM

You guys and your sitcoms for entertainment. I use them as sources to know how reality is like, because it's live-action. Doesn't change the fact for me that most sitcoms are mediocre, meaning most people irl, if I view them as how they are portrayed in sitcoms personality-wise, are what's keeping us from being united.

Oryx May 29th, 2014 7:30 AM

Sitcoms are noooooot reality. Not in any sense of the word. They're scripted often two-dimensional characters that are put into funny situations that would rarely happen and given lines that no one in real life would say.

Shining Raichu May 29th, 2014 7:42 AM

You just ruined sitcoms for me :(

The illusion is shattered around me, I don't know what life is anymore

Pinkie-Dawn May 29th, 2014 7:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Oryx (Post 8274465)
Sitcoms are noooooot reality. Not in any sense of the word. They're scripted often two-dimensional characters that are put into funny situations that would rarely happen and given lines that no one in real life would say.

Then which form of fiction describes reality in the most accurate way possible?

Oryx May 29th, 2014 7:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8274491)
Then which form of fiction describes reality in the most accurate way possible?

None of them do. That's why they're fiction. Life is mostly boring, and rarely has interesting dialogue or entertaining scenes. Even reality TV is cut and edited to create fictional scenarios despite what the participants might say or feel.

Kanzler May 29th, 2014 8:06 AM

That's cold. I think life is really exciting if you open your eyes and ears. Then again seeing aphids in the wild (as opposed to on house plants) for the first time two days ago excites me so it's more so a matter of how easily impressed you are.

twocows May 29th, 2014 8:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8274491)
Then which form of fiction describes reality in the most accurate way possible?

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Originally Posted by Oryx (Post 8274505)
None of them do. That's why they're fiction. Life is mostly boring, and rarely has interesting dialogue or entertaining scenes. Even reality TV is cut and edited to create fictional scenarios despite what the participants might say or feel.

Many good works of fiction either attempt to almost completely mirror reality and forge some sort of story within that context or, alternately, attempt to mirror some significant part of reality in a meaningful way. I don't think saying all fiction is largely disconnected from reality is fair.

That said, I don't think any one genre of fiction is more likely to be realistic than any other.

Pinkie-Dawn May 29th, 2014 8:14 AM

I dunno, the sitcom Seinfeld and a few anime such as Lucky Star are shows about nothing, just like reality, and yet they're quite popular. So reality isn't so boring after all.

Oryx May 29th, 2014 8:19 AM

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Originally Posted by twocows (Post 8274517)
Many good works of fiction either attempt to almost completely mirror reality and forge some sort of story within that context or, alternately, attempt to mirror some significant part of reality in a meaningful way. I don't think saying all fiction is largely disconnected from reality is fair.

That said, I don't think any one genre of fiction is more likely to be realistic than any other.

Yeah the "none of them" referred to genres of fiction, not necessarily works. There's also some historical fiction, where the author is trying to tell a story within realistic confines of human interaction in one point in time. Of course, there's also historical fiction that just slaps a "Victorian England" label on it and has no committal to reality in human interactions.

Kanzler, fiction in the form of sitcoms and other realistic fiction is designed to pull out the entertaining parts of daily life and ignore the parts that are necessary. If there's no plan for a fun event at work, they don't show you the person at work. They don't waste time with pointless small talk that's irrelevant to the plot of the show because it's not entertaining, not funny, and wastes time. There is no scheduled haircut episode, no regular mowing the lawn clip, no 15 minutes of the characters cleaning up after their children at night. Unless it's relevant to the plot or funny, it's cut. It's not cynical or cold to point out that fictional depictions of reality are designed to cut out everything boring and pump up everything entertaining - it's how the world works.

edit: Seinfeld is described as a show about nothing. That doesn't mean the nothing isn't scripted, designed, and edited to be as packed with laughter and amusement as possible, to follow easily understandable plotlines without significantly diverging from them, to be entertaining and not boring like an average person's life if you just followed them around.

Alexander Nicholi May 29th, 2014 8:20 AM

If sitcoms were a reality I have full confidence that the world would be a lot more fun. And if wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak. Unfortunately neither are the case :(

Pinkie-Dawn May 29th, 2014 8:32 AM

And if sitcoms were a reality, then there will be covers of dysfunctional families or lunatics ruining everyone's fun at theme parks, shopping centers, zoos, and other public places all over the news all caused by simplistic conflicts. I do not wish to be part of those problems, and yet I keep getting intrusive thoughts of those events happening whether me and my family go on a day trip to somewhere.

Treecko May 29th, 2014 8:48 AM

If more sitcoms were reality, then even mid-class people with average paying jobs could afford high end apartments and go to coffeehouses/restaurants almost every day like the cast of Seinfield or Friends. That would be nice actually.

Alexander Nicholi May 29th, 2014 8:53 AM

That reminded me of something, particularly this:

Kanzler May 29th, 2014 8:56 AM

But I do think life is interesting, with interesting dialogue and interesting events.

Oh my god on the topic of simplistic conflicts:

Okay so I'm practising doing verbal passages on the subway (which isn't a smart thing to do given how it's noisy and vibrating but bear with me) when I hear this loud obnoxious couple blaring throughout the subway car. I'm trying to concentrate on my passages so I do my best to tune them out but oh well eventually I give in because they're that friggen loud.

Turns out that the boyfriend had drawn two penises (one of which I could see) with Sharpie on the girlfriend's leg. So without any consideration to the other patrons (and especially me) they pursue this trivial disagreement to explosive extents - she's saying it's only fair that she gets to draw a penis on his leg, he's just saying no, they're both whining and all this time expletives are inserted between every other word, ♥♥♥♥ing this, ♥♥♥♥ing that etc etc etc

jesus christ

I don't know what kind of people make a big deal about Sharpie penises but I do know that they should not be ♥♥♥♥ing with my concentration while I'm on the subway and definitely not for fifteen straight minutes. You see, it was out of my consideration for the patrons nearby that I didn't consecutively smash their faces onto a subway pole or any other hard surface I could manage to land their faces on. Ugh.

Also they wore really skater-ish clothing and had piercings to high heaven, so for those of you into that kinda fashion and all, these are the people making y'all look bad.

Anyways if you're worried about intrusive thoughts, Pinkie-Dawn, it might be a good idea to take a look at Buddhism and their ways of handling unhelpful thoughts. I don't mean to proselytize but they do have really good ways of dealing with thoughts that are truly unhelpful - as in when brooding or worrying about them doesn't do anything.

lozzop May 29th, 2014 8:58 AM

In England school doesn't end till mid July :( boo. Our school doesn't finish till the 18th of July anyway.

Oryx May 29th, 2014 9:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kanzler (Post 8274576)
But I do think life is interesting, with interesting dialogue and interesting events.

No one's saying it's not, just that the interesting parts of life are separated by hours of boring things that are never shown on TV, or only shown on TV to make a funny joke about them. No one's showing an entire episode of a high school kid working on homework on their own silently at a table, but high school kids do homework at least half an hour a night so it would make sense to show it. But it's not funny or interesting so they don't...but real high school kids have to live through it, thus making the ratio of boring to not boring higher in real life than sitcoms and other tv shows.

Nick May 29th, 2014 9:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kouzan (Post 8274571)
If more sitcoms were reality, then even mid-class people with average paying jobs could afford high end apartments and go to coffeehouses/restaurants almost every day like the cast of Seinfield or Friends. That would be nice actually.

have you ever watched roseanne? i feel like it's one of the only sitcoms in the world that actually portrays lower middle class lifestyle and the struggles they face.

El Héroe Oscuro May 29th, 2014 9:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Arago (Post 8274637)
have you ever watched roseanne? i feel like it's one of the only sitcoms in the world that actually portrays lower middle class lifestyle and the struggles they face.

Actually, if you go back a little bit further in TV history you can find a lot of great sitcoms that represent that same ideal: The Honeymooners, I Love Lucy, All In The Family, and Good Times all portray that message, and are just as great as Roseanne in my opinion. You should check them out sometime, they're all classics (:

Alexander Nicholi May 29th, 2014 9:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanzler (Post 8274576)
Anyways if you're worried about intrusive thoughts, Pinkie-Dawn, it might be a good idea to take a look at Buddhism and their ways of handling unhelpful thoughts. I don't mean to proselytize but they do have really good ways of dealing with thoughts that are truly unhelpful - as in when brooding or worrying about them doesn't do anything.

Lately I've been rather interested in Tibetan Buddhism, particularly with the turmoil about a decade or two ago with the Panchen Lama. I like how the concepts of emanations and different buddhas and bodhisattvas and lines of incarnations tying into a philosophy of selflessness and love and compassion. I find that attractive in a religion, what with how much I lean towards atheism to begin with.

Nick May 29th, 2014 9:41 AM

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Originally Posted by elheroeoscuro (Post 8274644)
Actually, if you go back a little bit further in TV history you can find a lot of great sitcoms that represent that same ideal: The Honeymooners, I Love Lucy, All In The Family, and Good Times all portray that message, and are just as great as Roseanne in my opinion. You should check them out sometime, they're all classics (:

all in the family's a good one, and so is good times! there's another one that i can't quite remember the name of that was a good one as well. i never saw the honeymooners. i didn't know i love lucy was about middle class, but it probably is. my mom was obsessed with it. it was like her absolute favorite thing ever.

Kanzler May 29th, 2014 9:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 8274647)
Lately I've been rather interested in Tibetan Buddhism, particularly with the turmoil about a decade or two ago with the Panchen Lama. I like how the concepts of emanations and different buddhas and bodhisattvas and lines of incarnations tying into a philosophy of selflessness and love and compassion. I find that attractive in a religion, what with how much I lean towards atheism to begin with.

You can be atheist and Buddhist. Atheism just means without gods. Buddhism, franky, doesn't have much place for gods.

Treecko May 29th, 2014 9:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Arago (Post 8274637)
have you ever watched roseanne? i feel like it's one of the only sitcoms in the world that actually portrays lower middle class lifestyle and the struggles they face.

I've heard of it, but never seen it. Funny thing is I was just googling "realistic sitcom" for something relevant to this topic and Roseanne is considered one of the most realistic sitcoms ever by a lot of people. (Well based on several forum discussions lol.)

Alexander Nicholi May 29th, 2014 9:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kanzler (Post 8274654)
You can be atheist and Buddhist. Atheism just means without gods. Buddhism, franky, doesn't have much place for gods.

Yes, isn't that great? :D

I did read that often to find the incarnations of the Dalai and Panchen Lamas they consult a lake guardian by the name of Pelden Lhamo, which in some sense is considered a goddess, being one of the Eight Guardians of the Law. I myself have a feeling that that sort of spirit could just be a human that decided not to reincarnate and may be a little crafty at communicating with qi.

So I guess I can switch my view of it to keep it atheistic, although some may argue. :P

Nick May 29th, 2014 9:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kanzler (Post 8274654)
You can be atheist and Buddhist. Atheism just means without gods. Buddhism, franky, doesn't have much place for gods.

Are you Buddhist? Sorry I didn't read through all of your posts here. I think I'm Atheist (right now I still identify as Agnostic), but I do have spiritual beliefs separate from religious ones, particularly about what happens after you die - and I believe in a nirvana type system and reincarnation as well. I checked out Buddhism, but it seems pretty restrictive.

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Originally Posted by Kouzan (Post 8274658)
I've heard of it, but never seen it. Funny thing is I was just googling "realistic sitcom" for something relevant to this topic and Roseanne is considered one of the most realistic sitcoms ever by a lot of people. (Well based on several forum discussions lol.)

I highly suggest you check it out. If you're not too keen on starting the series from beginning to end, but still check it out, I suggest checking out an episode called The Dark Ages. It's not the best, but it's definitely a stand out episode.

Pinkie-Dawn May 29th, 2014 10:10 AM

Could we please not talk about atheism here? I get really uncomfortable when talking to them, and it's best that I don't know your beliefs, so I could be more comfortable with chatting with you guys. Blame youtube, 4chan, and reddit for this trust issue.

Treecko May 29th, 2014 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Arago (Post 8274666)
I highly suggest you check it out. If you're not too keen on starting the series from beginning to end, but still check it out, I suggest checking out an episode called The Dark Ages. It's not the best, but it's definitely a stand out episode.

Definitely will give it a watch cause I really have not much else to do. :P

I personally I indentify as Catholic. Really mainly/only cause I've been one all my life and can't see myself atm being anything else.And I can't see how somethings so wonderful weren't made by some sort of god. (And science obviously.) I do understand why some people don't believe in a god/God and respect that. I do think the whole nirvana concept of Buddhism is pretty neat.

Nick May 29th, 2014 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kouzan (Post 8274690)
Definitely will give it a watch cause I really have not much else to do. :P

I personally I indentify as Catholic. Really mainly/only cause I've been one all my life and can't see myself atm being anything else.And I can't see how somethings so wonderful weren't made by some sort of god. (And science obviously.) I do understand why some people don't believe in a god/God and respect that. I do think the whole nirvana concept of Buddhism is pretty neat.

They have pretty much every episode on YouTube so it's super easy to find.

Oryx May 29th, 2014 10:24 AM

I believe in the all-consuming power of chocolate chip cannolis and deep-fried flautas.

Kanzler May 29th, 2014 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Arago (Post 8274666)
Are you Buddhist? Sorry I didn't read through all of your posts here. I think I'm Atheist (right now I still identify as Agnostic), but I do have spiritual beliefs separate from religious ones, particularly about what happens after you die - and I believe in a nirvana type system and reincarnation as well. I checked out Buddhism, but it seems pretty restrictive.

What do you find restrictive about Buddhism? It seems really restrictive for monks, but it can be practised by lay people as well. I don't so much believe in nirvana as I do work towards it. If I attain it that will be belief enough.

I don't think Buddhism is very open to the belief in souls, as that would go against the teaching of "selflessness" in the world. Buddhism, as I interpret it, treats the ego as a fiction, and the soul is a pretty ego-centric concept (think about it, it's a "self" that floats through lives, a consciousness that migrates from this body to another). There is no "you", and "you" will not be reborn as "you" once you die, etc etc.

Ugh it can get really confusing so I won't go into any more detail unless you or somebody else asks for it. The tl;dr is that "reincarnation" as we normally think of it (transferring souls) isn't how it's conceptualized in Buddhism.

EDIT: And yeah, I don't really "get" Tibetan Buddhism. I don't see how they can reconcile the rebirth of somebody's consciousness who happens to be better than you and gets to rule over a territory with the concept that there is no permanent "self". I see it as a very doctrine-oriented school of Buddhism that happened to be influenced by other deistic ideas over the years.

Alexander Nicholi May 29th, 2014 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kanzler (Post 8274702)
What do you find restrictive about Buddhism? It seems really restrictive for monks, but it can be practised by lay people as well. I don't so much believe in nirvana as I do work towards it. If I attain it that will be belief enough.

I don't think Buddhism is very open to the belief in souls, as that would go against the teaching of "selflessness" in the world. Buddhism, as I interpret it, treats the ego as a fiction, and the soul is a pretty ego-centric concept (think about it, it's a "self" that floats through lives, a consciousness that migrates from this body to another). There is no "you", and "you" will not be reborn as "you" once you die, etc etc.

Ugh it can get really confusing so I won't go into any more detail unless you or somebody else asks for it. The tl;dr is that "reincarnation" as we normally think of it (transferring souls) isn't how it's conceptualized in Buddhism.

EDIT: And yeah, I don't really "get" Tibetan Buddhism. I don't see how they can reconcile the rebirth of somebody's consciousness who happens to be better than you and gets to rule over a territory with the concept that there is no permanent "self". I see it as a very doctrine-oriented school of Buddhism that happened to be influenced by other deistic ideas over the years.

Maybe you're right, but I still like the idea. I guess I find it a good way to lead by example, but that's probably unfounded. :>

It's good that I don't have to believe in an invisible man to find my own happiness in regard to things like death that cause a lot of people to cling to religion to begin with. It's a scary thought, but with the idea that you just start over and over again with a larger goal of nirvana at hand, I'm rather content. :3

Treecko May 29th, 2014 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Oryx (Post 8274700)
I believe in the all-consuming power of chocolate chip cannolis and deep-fried flautas.

Now this is something I can definitely stand for.

Sir Codin May 29th, 2014 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by G.U.Y. (Post 8274204)
GET THE HELL OUT

Uh, yeah, how about "NO".

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Donna was amazing.
No...just...no. Not even a little bit.

She's overconfident, self-righteous, and arrogant. She treats Eric terribly at times (then again, everyone treats Eric terribly), she takes too much pride in her "independence", she thinks everything men do is inherently oppressive, she approaches any comment on femininity (positive or negative) with open hostility, and she's also a massive hypocrite as evidenced when she gives Eric crap for going out on two dates while they were broken up, yet at that same time she slept with Casey Kelso. She's also not even sexy, despite the show's claims otherwise.

Donna is the worst.

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So was Kelso.
Kelso is an unfunny, narcissistic, bumbling dumbass most of the time all of the time. Just like his actor.

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I hated Hide..or whatever his name was. No real reason other than I hate people like him.
Hyde was one of the better characters of the show. I could relate to him given his acerbic wit, deadpan sarcasm, his hatred for the man and big business, and his awesome taste in music. He also frequently does what I always daydream of doing: calling people out on their BS. The only bad thing about Hyde was that his actor's portrayal of him at times felt overly forced.



Now that I think about it, most of the people on That 70's Show are terrible. The only ones I feel any sympathy towards are Hyde, Fez, and Eric, especially Eric considering he's treated like crap by virtually everyone. I have to admire his will, because if I was put through even half of the crap he has to put up with, I would've gone postal.

Crux May 29th, 2014 1:04 PM

Oh, god, I hated Donna.

Hyde was the ♥♥♥♥ though. Oh, and Red.

"Dumbass"

Steven May 29th, 2014 1:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CarcharOdin (Post 8274849)
Donna is the worst.

I think you're just jealous of her pure awesomeness.

But seriously, I get the points your making. I guess I just like characters when I relate to them..but Donna is awesome.

Crux May 29th, 2014 2:00 PM

I'll just leave this here.

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