The PokéCommunity Forums

The PokéCommunity Forums (https://www.pokecommunity.com/index.php)
-   Pokémon Gaming Central (https://www.pokecommunity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13)
-   -   Chit-Chat Player saved the game. (https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=328093)

Pendraflare December 2nd, 2014 7:33 AM

I only played through Shadows of Almia (the Sinnoh game) once, but I did enjoy my time with it and there were improvements from the first game. Despite that I played the first game more than a few times when it was present. SoA made some notable adjustments, such as not needing to make the entire capture one loop, and the bosses felt more unique and less frustrating. That horrible Entei as the finale of the first games...

Guardian December 2nd, 2014 8:55 AM

Glad to hear you all liked them. I played Darkness and ever since wanted to play Sky just for the extra stuff. The game is absolutely amazing and only PMD can bringout any real emotions out from me. Not just among Pokemon games but among any game I've ever played :D
Pokemon ranger too, just not to the same extent, together with the rest of the Pokemon Franchise.

I am also just about to finish Pokemon Soulsilver and then play Pokemon white for the first time lol

Pendraflare December 2nd, 2014 9:50 AM

A Generation V newcomer, are you? Between BW's various aspects such as exclusively new Pokémon, and most importantly its plot, there have been a lot of division on it even today. Me personally, it's high among my favorites in the series, and there was a period of time where I used to hate it because people were hamming it up to be the best thing ever while completely trashing B2W2. That one deserved way more credit than it got.

Guardian December 2nd, 2014 9:57 AM

Yeah, newcomer here lol.
I started my Pokemon marathon starting with Pokemon Yellow last year, I have been playing Soulsilver for 3 months now which is kind of a lot. I will probably take a brief pause after this one before moving on to White (I might only do some Emerald cloning and Platinum shiny chaining).
I dont know where to put PMD Sky and Guardian signs cos they jumped in unexpectedly lol but I'll figure it out.

I actually read a lot online about how fifth generation is great and I am actually really looking forward to it, specifically cos its the first Pokemon game I'll be playing that I didnt at least try playing. I know almost nothing about it except for its Pokemon. So yeah, I definitely am looking forward to it :D

Guardian December 2nd, 2014 2:30 PM

OH MAN!!

I just spent AN HOUR (ish) battling Lance! Dragonair being the only lvl 50, all the others being below.
Gyarados was 38 and he took some huge hits and gave some even bigger.
Also Umbreon is such a tank what the heck! (my team was the one in my signature)
Anyway, I have finally (not that I was trying that hard till today) beaten Indigo league in SS. Such a relief. This was harder that Cynthia lmao.
Anyway, I rarely feel so good about doing something virtually related, but this felt gooood.

Hiatus December 2nd, 2014 5:51 PM

Which game are you playing, Sven, HGSS? Yeah, Lance was sort of difficult in this one; it'd taken me about five tries to get him defeated when I had faced him in Pokémon League during my first run, haha. In my second play-through, though, I took things more carefully, and had my team leveled-up enough, so thankfully, he didn't wind up to be as difficult as he was in the first.

Also, as for spin-offs, aside from Mystery Dungeon series, I really, really Pokémon XD. It's got shadow Pokémon, which I believe is quite an interesting feature; although I don't remember much about it, if I'm not mistaken, one thing about this is that this would give certain Pokémon an alternative form, which would allow it to have slightly different(?) stats as well as access to a different move-pool. Plus, their skin would be dark alongside, which is a rather cool touch, if you ask me.

I believe it would have been nice had this feature made it into main-series titles instead of mega-evolution. Although megas aren't bad, I feel that shadow Pokémon have more of an unique vibe.

Guardian December 3rd, 2014 6:32 AM

Yes I'm playing HGSS.
Honestly, heaving decently leveled Pokemon makes it easier, but there is no better feeling then beating someone who has a much stronger team.
I mean, he has three Dragonairs.
I had a Dragonair with Draco meteor and Dragon rush, but it was slower then all three Dragonites. And Gyarados (12 levels less then Lance's Pokemon) with Blizzard.
Haunter saves my ass tbh.
And Arcanine, he didnt hit much, but he took enough hits for me to heal all the Pokemon I needed to heal.

I spent about 15 revives, several max revives and max potions, bunch of super and hyper potions, all in one battle.

This is going to ctick it for me so it was definitely worth it :D

I never played Pokemon XD D:

Hiatus December 3rd, 2014 4:18 PM

Yeah, Lance could be a bit tiresome to face. I've wound up using just as much items when going up against the guy; it was kind of unbelievable. Though, who I found to be even more tough than him is Red and Mountain Silver. Although for some, it was a piece of cake, he was quite difficult on my end. All of his Pokémon seemed to have been more bulky than average, making them withstand more hits, and on top of that, they were also hard-hitting; one attack would deal a good portion of damage. I was finally able to get this person defeated mostly thanks to Gyarados; it's set up a few Dragon Dance, and took out some of his team members. Others then came in, and finished off the job.

Battle Frontier Brains are also challenging; going up against these people head-to-head could be even more tough, as we're not allowed to use any items at all, if I'm not mistaken. Their team might consist of only three Pokémon (and so would ours), which would save some time and have us end the battle earlier, but it's still difficult nonetheless!

In HeartGold and SoulSilver, I've defeated only two Frontier Brains in total, I believe.

Pendraflare December 3rd, 2014 4:26 PM

Ah yes, Gyarados with Dragon Dance can beat Lance almost single-handedly, but that's not for Level 44 (which he said he hadn't reached). Having a Mamoswine with the Choice Scarf makes the Dragonites easy mode basically, but doesn't fare as good against Charizard and Gyarados.

In Heart Gold I think I beat all the Frontier brains before I wiped my save, and I know I have all five on my main Platinum version. Never even reached any of the brains for the Gold rank, though.

Judge Mandolore Shepard December 4th, 2014 7:44 AM

When it comes to the Frontier Brains, I admit that I have never beaten any of them. This is because I have never battled any of them due to the fact that my winning streak tends to end before I can reach them.

FSNW5yiFrXVXqv December 4th, 2014 8:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peitharchia (Post 8518702)
Battle Frontier Brains are also challenging; going up against these people head-to-head could be even more tough, as we're not allowed to use any items at all, if I'm not mistaken. Their team might consist of only three Pokémon (and so would ours), which would save some time and have us end the battle earlier, but it's still difficult nonetheless!

In HeartGold and SoulSilver, I've defeated only two Frontier Brains in total, I believe.

Just adding a few more bits...

Not to mention that luck also plays a HUGE factor for some facilities (idk if there are any "exploits" or "RNG" abuse to get over these, but I'm talking about playing the vanilla way), such as the Palace, Pyramid and the Pike. Factory and Arena being gimmicky - in an interesting way, that is - but doesn't require as much luck as the previous mentioned.

Oh and, not all facilities actually prevent the use of items. For example, the Battle Tower has always allowed hold items for as long as they're not being held by two or more pokemon. On the other hand, the Battle Castle (Gen IV) and the Battle Pyramid (Gen III) remove all items in your inventory (and held items), but within the facilities themselves you may find/purchase items to use in or out of battle, and even equip!

There's also the World Tournament in B2/W2, which is a better version of Battle tower, with a pinch of Factory somewhere within.

So how about that for a little bit of spice and challenge in your epic adventure?

On a side note...I've never really got into Gen IV's frontiers (might do so someday) - except for the factory, although i did manage to get all gold symbols on my first (but now gone) pokemon Emerald save. How i wish i took a picture at least ='( took forever to get those. Oh god, the Battle Palace. *shivers*

Guardian December 4th, 2014 8:23 AM

Ugh, luck is sometimes such a bad thing to rely on, but sometimes also the only one.
Since none of my Pokemon were faster than Dragonite, I could only rely on two things.
Dragonite's outrage and self-confusion. (which ended up in hurting itself MOST of the times), and
Haunter Hypnosis. I've used it bunch of times, missed only once, which was crucial.

You guys talking about all of that make me realize how much Im missing in games, even from playing through it very slowly so I could enjoy lol.

FSNW5yiFrXVXqv December 4th, 2014 9:22 AM

The goal to catch-em-all, contests, competitive battling, EVs/IVs, safaris, breeding, these facilities, mega-evolution...well, welcome to the world of pokemon! Hahaha.

Don't worry, just enjoy it as you do right now. It all sinks in over time. Some of us probably are just YEARS ahead of you, hence why you see it that way - but you shouldn't, really.

That's a pretty nostalgic team you have btw. My first team (Yellow) had Haunter (that also played an important role in the team) and Pidgeot, while my first silver team had Umbreon in it. The Elite Four definitely were tough during those times as well and I'm sure we've all been through it. I got swooped by the 8th gym leader, Claire, many times...since typhlosion was my strongest and was not good against her Dragons, moreso Kingdra. I also lost once or twice to Lance in the same Silver run, due to the surprise of THREE dragonites and an aerodactyl to boot, which once again, my Typhlosion was weak against. I'm pretty sure it was lv62 or 63 when i finally beat the game...lol. I could even remember training a Rhyhorn to a Rhydon (caught in Victory Road..to Horn Drill/OHKO a Dragonite or two) as well on that run, and using lots of revives (literally waited until dragonites' PP and HP, from confusion, got depleted), to finally get through.

These moments are among the best memories of pokemon we could probably keep. So you're doing just fine. lol.

Guardian December 4th, 2014 10:04 AM

Lol yeah, I agree.

And thanks. This would be my ultimate dream team actually. No matter how awesome Pokemon from new generations are, nothing beats these.
The closest some Pokemon replacing them got were Mightyena/Absol instead of Umbreon, and Sharpedo instead of Gyarados. Long story short, these prevailed lol. And yeah, kinda funny how all of them, with umbreon being an exception, are from the first Gen. :D

FSNW5yiFrXVXqv December 4th, 2014 10:38 AM

Hmm..i do see where that's coming from. Most of my faves come from Gen I-II, specifically (The pidgey line's my favorite bird pokemon!) But generally speaking, I think "it only gets better." For example, I've become so obsessed with bugs when I started challenge runs years ago, so seeing new pokemon of those types have since been thrilling. Some love the newer cutesies, some the new dragons. I would have to juggle around every new guy to see who among them will I end up really liking.

I'd suggest trying a few challenge runs in the challenge forum, for that matter. When you get used to the game a bit more and have a ton of time to spare, that is... cause some are incredibly hardcore. lol. They introduce you teams that you've never imagined before. Who knows, some new team you form there may add to (or even replace) your current one!

Hiatus December 4th, 2014 6:04 PM

Yeah, it has to be the same for me; a lot of my favorite Pokémon comes from generations one and two, such as Ninetales, Vulpix, Charizard, Blastoise, and so forth. Though, there's also a handful of gen three ones, such as Metagross and Jirachi. From generation four and onward, things seemed to have started dwindling a little (at least in my eyes), causing Pokémon to become a little more tough to like (in terms of appearance, anyway; for competitive purposes, that's a completely different story).

Pendraflare December 4th, 2014 6:22 PM

Although my #1 favorite Pokémon comes from Generation I (Lapras), Generation V is my favorite in terms of Pokémon overall. Between Scolipede (my second favorite ever), Hydreigon, Scrafty, Jellicent and several others, there are very few from that generation I dislike. My least favorite in terms of such is probably Generation IV, but second is Generation III (which ironically, is my second least favorite in terms of adventure).

Megan December 5th, 2014 5:21 AM

I never really bothered with any Battle Facilities in the games until X and Y. In Crystal I tried the Battle Tower once and failed and in Sapphire I tried to get to 50 consecutive battles, because of some rumors stating that ou could get to Johto and Kanto afterwards. At that point I didn't even know IVs and EVs existed, which is why I just keeped failing.

As for favorite generation in terms of design, I like the later gens 3-6 a little bit more than the first gens. Although, since I never played DPPt, I never really bothered with most of the gen 4 Pokemon until X and Y, which was when I was able to actually obtain and use them.

Pendraflare December 5th, 2014 9:54 AM

The Battle Tower in Crystal was really weird. o_O I remember fighting a Bug Catcher with an Alakazam, which was messed up. But in Ruby and Sapphire it was even worse, because you had to go in with Pokémon at Level 50 or 100 - if they were even one level above 50 they had to be used in Level 100. This was something I appreciated that DP's Battle Tower (and all future ones) fixed, in that they automatically made all of them Level 50 upon entering them. That's part of the reason I never really got into Emerald's Battle Frontier, possibly because I hate training in those games.

Hiatus December 5th, 2014 4:46 PM

Emerald's Battle Frontier is the one I had liked most, to be honest.

In comparison to the one from Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum (also HeartGold and SoulSilver), Emerald's one was more big, giving us opportunity in explore. In former games, it was rather straightforward; one facility is directly next to another. Though, they did have places such as Fight Area, Survival Area, and so forth, which, I suppose, does make up for it, in a way?

Speaking of those places, I wish they had given us a little more events there. What they did have (Heatran event, for example) might have been enough for post-game, but it definitely would have been satisfying (at least in my eyes) had there been some more.

Guardian December 6th, 2014 5:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pendraflare (Post 8520169)
Although my #1 favorite Pokémon comes from Generation I (Lapras), Generation V is my favorite in terms of Pokémon overall. Between Scolipede (my second favorite ever), Hydreigon, Scrafty, Jellicent and several others, there are very few from that generation I dislike. My least favorite in terms of such is probably Generation IV, but second is Generation III (which ironically, is my second least favorite in terms of adventure).

interesting, cos my least favorite would be Gen 5. Kinda feels like they were tring to redid the first gen, and did it wrong.
Instead of magnets they just stuck together a bunch of icecreams. Birds with haircuts? no thanks. Female looking machop/machoke/machamps with those things in their hands added. Not very happy with Dragons either.
The yellow one (idk the names yet, just learning) just screams yugioh too loud :/ , the same with the Hydreigon. (plus arms as heads) Not bad, but I expect much more for a type that is rare in every gen.

On the other hand, Generation 3 is absolutely stunning and my favorite overall. Unique designs. Colorful but not an eyesore. First Generation where I love EVERY SINGLE LEGENDARY. And Region is flawless.

As for the battle facilities, I'd never get into them tbh. I knew no one to compare my records, and just plain battling was kind of time wasting for me. I would love to play in the wifi zone but ofc that is closed.

I'll probably get back to Battle frontier and all the others at some point. though.

Hiatus December 6th, 2014 4:21 PM

I didn't get to defeat much battle facilities, personally, unfortunately. Only one I do remember beating is Battle Pike (one with Seviper-like design) from Pokémon Emerald. Although the brain herself was sort of tough, reaching her wasn't too difficult; all we had to do is go through correct rooms one-by-one, and once it's time, we'll reach her.

My favorite facility, even though I haven't beaten it, would likely have to be Battle Factory. It's very fun to be renting Pokémon and whatnot, as they test our skills on how good we are at battling with whatever that we are given. Most of the time, we don't wind up getting the we hope for, which sucks. Good thing is, though, it does add to its difficulty!

I don't remember, was Factory able to make it into other Pokémon games aside from Emerald?

Emboar December 6th, 2014 4:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peitharchia (Post 8522524)
I don't remember, was Factory able to make it into other Pokémon games aside from Emerald?

Yeah, it was in Gen IV's Battle Frontier as well. And I'd have to say the Battle Factory is my favorite facility as well. My teams never seemed to do well in the Battle Frontier, so I like having the opportunity to use rental Pokemon. In the Battle Factory, I would actually have a chance at beating the Frontier Brain (even though I never did).

Guardian December 6th, 2014 5:32 PM

I liked the battle facility in Pokemon Platinum. I dont remember the name and Im too lazy to google it but it's the one with castle and whatnot. it is also not that hard. I will probably get back to it soon.
I have to go shiny chain and visit Distortion world.
Also make some money for mah villa and stuff.

Hiatus December 7th, 2014 4:45 PM

I've gotten up to battling the Frontier Brain in Castle once, but wasn't able to get her defeated; she might not have been to difficult to reach, but she, herself, is quite tough. I've had a strategized (not precisely a word, but you know) Togekiss with me alongside, with Serene Grace ability, competitive EV spread, and the moves Air Slash, Roost, Thunder Wave, and Ominous Wind; it didn't seemed to have helped much, unfortunately. Though, I shouldn't have given up. I'm sure I could have had her defeated if I'd tried a little more hard.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 4:03 AM.


Like our Facebook Page Follow us on Twitter © 2002 - 2018 The PokéCommunity™, pokecommunity.com.
Pokémon characters and images belong to The Pokémon Company International and Nintendo. This website is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by Nintendo, Creatures, GAMEFREAK, The Pokémon Company or The Pokémon Company International. We just love Pokémon.
All forum styles, their images (unless noted otherwise) and site designs are © 2002 - 2016 The PokéCommunity / PokéCommunity.com.
PokéCommunity™ is a trademark of The PokéCommunity. All rights reserved. Sponsor advertisements do not imply our endorsement of that product or service. User generated content remains the property of its creator.

Acknowledgements
Use of PokéCommunity Assets
vB Optimise by DragonByte Technologies Ltd © 2023.