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Why are there so many FireRed Hacks?
I've noticed a strong abundance of FireRed hacks. Any particular reasons that this game is so esteemed by the hacking community?
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Also there are a numerical amount of Research and tools which are supported by FireRed(for instance Mr.DollSteak's Rom Base) And its good for anyone who wants to fully understand Rom Hacking :) But it ain't no thang. |
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Fire Red is the most researched engine and the code in the ROM is organized as compared to other ROMs. |
It's quite simple to use FireRed because there are many hacking tools. There are a lot of very famous old FireRed hacks such as Shiny Gold or Liquid Crystal. This inspired many people. That may have had something to do with it.
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Yeah, that's pretty much it. FireRed's the most researched and documented, effectively making it the easiest to hack. It's supported by an abundance of tools and patches (such as JPAN's hacked engine and MrDollSteak's rombase) that make life easier because of this, making it a perfect base for one's first rom hack.
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Saying that FR is documented / has tools is not really an answer. The reason why FR has so many tools and is so heavily researched is because it is so heavily hacked, not the other way around. I suppose it is the reason why it's unlikely for that to ever change, but still.
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Someone started hacking firered, so they made tools, and because the tools existed, someone made a firered hack himself, with the growing existence of hacks, more tools were needed, and so on It's pretty basic stuff, it's how money works I buy something from you, so you can have money to buy something from me, so I can have money to buy something from you, and we're all happy 'cause we all buy what we need, so there's no need to stop the cycle, therefore, it's hard that it will However, unlike money, even if people stop hackinf firered, the tools will all still be around, so it will easily stand back up on it's feet |
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However, the cycle started somewhere. As you yourself stated: Quote:
At that point in time, there would be no (or extremely minimal) documentation on any of the ROMs. There would be no pragmatic reasons to choose, say, FR over LG, as they are essentially the same game. |
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a. He decided to use firered 'cause why not? b. FireRed was his favorite game so he decided to start on that one over the others c. He tried both but FireRed seemed easier because the engine is more organised or whatever :P |
It just kind of happens when there's two games, usually the first of the two is the most common to be hacked, and is better documented. So people prefer Ruby over Sapphire (and Emerald over the two) and Fire Red over Leaf Green.
Now, I don't know the reason Fire Red is more popular than Ruby/Emerald, but back when I started ROM Hacking and R/S/E hacks were more common, I started from Ruby and then switched to Emerald because it had more features, and then switched to Fire Red because I preferred its graphical style much more than R/S/E's, there were more FR/LG style resources. I remember things like heavy graphics editing weren't really common, and there weren't tools to edit door animations, so I just went with Fire Red. |
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Yeah. It's kind of interesting that more people didn't base their hacks off of Emerald. You'd think Emerald would be slightly more robust and offer a sprinkling of extra features to take advantage of. Besides, isn't Emerald built off of FireRed to begin with?
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Most hacks are of Fire red, Cause Fire red rom is the easiest to hack and settle, with so many tools and tutorials!
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Probably the easiest. Can't imagine trying to do one over emerald base
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Due to having more features than the other bases, Emerald truly would be the superior one once we can do just as much to it as FireRed. Maybe after I finish my project I'll look into some of these things. Quote:
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The deal with Emerald is mostly in its free space. A number of tools (most prominently A-Map) were built under the assumption that Emerald's free space is the same as Ruby's. This wouldn't be a problem, were it not for the fact that it uses 00 free space, and much of the new data occupying what was Ruby's free space is sound data. Instruments have a lot of 00 space, which A-Map will happily put data in if you let it repoint without asking for an offset, causing the music to break horribly and naive romhackers to write Emerald off as "unstable".
This in turn has led to a lot of recent research being aimed towards FR, as nobody wanted to deal with that noise. For a long while, information on stuff like custom moves and animations was strictly FR only unless you were quite savvy and willing to work with both. This cycle was somewhat cyclic and arguably still is, although there are quite a few resources emerging for Emerald lately. |
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Sure Firered is easier to hack, but Emerald has dive, contests, berries, battle animations, battle frontier, the Verdanturf Town micrograss, etc. With all those cool features I really don't know why people prefer Firered. Maybe it's a new trend?
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from my previous experience (from years ago) it was alot easier to understand.
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There's even a thread on the Research and Development sub-Forum for Emerald only. I really hope Emerald hacking becomes a thing because I personaly hate how Ruby looks. Not just the tiles, the layout of the boxes (like in the menu or text boxes) and the sprites, it's just hard to get used to it. |
Saying that Firered is the easiest to hack, is in my opinion wrong.
Why Firered is used the most is probably that Firered was the luckiest of them all, and a little bit because of the hackers afterwards. As JosefigGaming stated someone just prefered Firered at that time when a tool was build over the others. So people who made other tools obviously took firered into account more. And when JPAN made the hacked engine, off course that everyone would support it so that they're name could be in the credits section. I mean Jambo or anyone else wouldnt have expanded the Pokedex of firered if Jpan's engine was for Emerald. Darthatron would never have animated Firereds titlescreen, if say everyone was at that time hacking leafgreen over the other ROM's. Mr.Dollsteak would never made that rombase for firered, almost everything was supporting Ruby. Im not saying that people made tools, or anything just for the fame, off course someone needed some knowledge in ASM for the school or anything else etc. But it is a fact, that people who created anything for the ROM's, wanted as many people to use the work they did(Whats the point in creating anything if noone will appreciate it?). And since Firered was just lucky there, they went with it. This thread could be called "Why are there so many *insertyourgbaPokemongamehere* Hacks" if it was lucky back then. |
ITS cause there are so many tools for it and it is easy to hack
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EDIT: I found out you can use Advance Text for RSE. Damn noob.
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because its easy to hack it
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I believe this thread has become post after post of "Because it has more research into it"
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