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Alpha May/Omega Brendan July 6th, 2014 1:54 PM

More Ice Types?
 
So, we all know how few Ice Type Pokemon were in R/S/E, so do you believe that there will be more Ice Types in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, even though Hoenn is a tropical region.

Oshakpop July 6th, 2014 2:23 PM

I hope so. At least in the post game with more in Shoal Cave.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 6th, 2014 3:05 PM

Post Champion maybe. I don't think they'll add more than Froslass pre- champion if they add her.

Jacrad July 6th, 2014 6:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8334162)
Post Champion maybe. I don't think they'll add more than Froslass pre- champion if they add her.

Eh, if we're lucky we'll get the Friend Safaris added to these games and/or a mini region that could add more Ice Pokemon.
Although they should totally make Delibird show up on Christmas in Shoal Cave. If nothing else.

I wonder if there will be diamond dust in this game? :o

Killjoy July 6th, 2014 6:18 PM

Tough call. I would imagine they're going to be a lot of new pokemon in the safari zone, pokemon from 4, 5, and 6. I'm sure there's going to be at least a few ice types in that list.

My even be some new pokemon finding their way into the wilderness.

Yato July 6th, 2014 6:53 PM

Though it'd be cool to have more Ice types before beating the Pokemon League, I have a feeling the only way it'll happen is if Froslass is added (which it presumably will since HGSS added Gen. IV evos. to the Johto Dex) and/or if one or two Pokemon in the Hoenn Dex receive a Mega that is part Ice. Otherwise, I can't imagine GF adding in more Ice types until post-game.

Xander Olivieri July 6th, 2014 9:25 PM

Hoenn's Pokedex, just like Kantos and Johtos has a very high chance of seeing very few changes to its line up. Unless you cannot stop the evolution like Yanma's and Piloswines in HG/SS I doubt we'll see any excess evolutions in the game. Remakes tend to stay as close to the originals as possible so we are only going to get what we've already played with graphic updates and slight story tweeks.

The Hoenn Pokedex doesn't have any forced evolutions that I remembered seeing. All the add ons are optional and at least one may not even be possible without trading to X and Y. So those that used items, item + trade to get may not be available to evolve until post game. So far the only Hoenn Pokemon that may have an evolutionary item introduced from later in the series and have an effect on it is Feebas, unless Feebas isn't catch-able until Post game or if they don't readd Contests.

Salzorrah July 6th, 2014 11:36 PM

It seems very unlikely. But if they have to have it, then Shoal Cave could be expanded to an Ice Wonderland. Add more Pokemon than Spheals and Snorunts.

Iceshadow3317 July 7th, 2014 7:39 AM

I would love to see a special Delibird show up in winter after the Elite 4.

Anyways, back on topic.

For the most part, the Hoenn Dex will probably stay the same. They might add new areas to see more pokemon. My guess there will be some type of new area similar to islands or Sinnoh's north island. I forget what is is called. But I don't see much changing.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 7th, 2014 8:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Leijon (Post 8334714)
It seems very unlikely. But if they have to have it, then Shoal Cave could be expanded to an Ice Wonderland. Add more Pokemon than Spheals and Snorunts.

They could add in extra floors to explore post E4, so it will be worth returning to after capturing Snorunt at low tide (which is only available in the lowest floor in RSE irc). They could add in an Ice rock for Glaceon too in one of those floors. I sure hope ORAS doesn't have the curse of the remakes when it comes to lacking the eeveelutions introduced in the generation(s) after it. While FRLG and HGSS each lacked 2 (the Johto for the Kanto remakes, and the Sinnoh ones for the Johto remakes) ORAS will end up lacking 3 (the Sinnoh duo and the single Kalos eeveelution). I hope that we can at least evolve the Sinnoh ones, leaving only Sylveon to evolve in Kalos only (I'll prefer all three but if I had to choose.)

Altairis July 8th, 2014 5:50 AM

I would love new Ice-type Pokemon. They need some more love, and we need some more weapons against Drake, haha.

SmashBrony July 9th, 2014 6:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Altairis (Post 8336945)
I would love new Ice-type Pokemon. They need some more love, and we need some more weapons against Drake, haha.

But we will have more weapons against Drake... they are called the FAIRY-type!
We'll crush him with the adorable might of the likes of Gardevoir & Wigglytuff!
BWA HA HA HA!!!

Meanwhile, back at the farm...

I'd like to see more ice-types too... I just would like to see MORE pokemon period!

acatfrommars July 9th, 2014 9:23 PM

I hope to see more ice type Pokemon in the remakes, but I doubt that will happen. There were only six new ice typed Pokemon introduced in Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire so if the games are remakes then there will be a lack of ice types. :/

Hiatus July 9th, 2014 11:32 PM

If they're including seasons into these games, which they might, then it's possible; during winter, we could see more ice Pokémon roaming around. I wouldn't expect there to be any snow, though, considering that Hoenn is a tropical region as stated in OP, but climate would still be cold, which would be suitable for some ice-types. Aside from that, I don't exactly see much else, sadly. Well, if they're giving us access to more locations post-game, then maybe this could be their chance of giving us more access to ice-type Pokémon. If they don't capitalize, then I personally wouldn't be too upset; I'd be able to transfer them from X and Y, anyway, as well as other games, so honestly, there's no point in being bothered about it.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 9th, 2014 11:38 PM

I'm hoping they add an island with a snowy mountain as it's one of the few biomes missing from Hoenn. It can be a really tall mountain too so it won't be strange to see ice types at the peak as even very tall mountains in the tropics don't have peaks which can be called 'tropical' by the time you reach them.

Jacrad July 10th, 2014 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8340618)
I'm hoping they add an island with a snowy mountain as it's one of the few biomes missing from Hoenn. It can be a really tall mountain too so it won't be strange to see ice types at the peak as even very tall mountains in the tropics don't have peaks which can be called 'tropical' by the time you reach them.

It'd be a good place to put the Ice Rock and have diamond dust. I think Kanto and Hoenn are the only regions that don't have diamond dust at this point.
Oh! What if Mirage Island were retooled to be a snowy mountain? It'd certainly make it a more memorable place.

Altairis July 10th, 2014 2:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Stoney the Mewtwo (Post 8340211)
But we will have more weapons against Drake... they are called the FAIRY-type!
We'll crush him with the adorable might of the likes of Gardevoir & Wigglytuff!
BWA HA HA HA!!!

Meanwhile, back at the farm...

I'd like to see more ice-types too... I just would like to see MORE pokemon period!

The more the better ;) Well, I would never have a team of just Drake-killers, but it would be nice to have more Ice-type options, though this is just a personal opinion really.

Salzorrah July 10th, 2014 4:43 AM

Tbh, I hated how the Ice types were so rare tbh D: I really hope they do have more Ice Pokemon in the game. I'm okay if they will be all in Shoal Cave :P

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 10th, 2014 6:32 AM

I kind of hope so, as I hope that Glacia has new ice type Pokemon post initial E4. Usually the Pokemon the E4 and champion have are available in one of the pair of games.

Ghost Lunis July 10th, 2014 6:44 AM

With what serebii has said today from the Coro-coro scans, this definitely seems like a plausible option now. No one knows what kind of pokemon we will get now.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 10th, 2014 6:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Champion Lunis (Post 8341012)
With what serebii has said today from the Coro-coro scans, this definitely seems like a plausible option now. No one knows what kind of pokemon we will get now.

It's possible they may only be a few additions. They didn't give us a word that'll give us any idea of how much they added so it could also be a lot. I just hope Froslass is added.

Ghost Lunis July 10th, 2014 7:01 AM

I want to see Froslass as well. But, as long as swinub is in it, I will be very happy:)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 10th, 2014 7:07 AM

I'm iffy on any Pokemon that aren't Hoenn natives,or evolutionary relatives, or that weren't in the Emerald post-E4 SZ extension being added to the dex. But I think I may need to make an exception for ice types, just to give Glacia something.

Pinkie-Dawn July 10th, 2014 7:36 AM

For those who think more Ice types will be only available post-game, don't you at least care about type diversity? It was a major problem in the original games, because Glacia had one of the worst Elite 4 rosters in the series. Why would you want her roster to remain the same until post-game; doesn't that bother you one bit? I say we need more Ice types available during the main campaign to fix this issue.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 10th, 2014 7:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8341098)
For those who think more Ice types will be only available post-game, don't you at least care about type diversity? It was a major problem in the original games, because Glacia had one of the worst Elite 4 rosters in the series. Why would you want her roster to remain the same until post-game; doesn't that bother you one bit? I say we need more Ice types available during the main campaign to fix this issue.

More like species diversity considering they're type experts xD. I hope they at least add in Froslass for her. Since Magneton is Wattson's ace according to this newest issue I'm assuming that Abomasnow is the ace for Candice instead of Froslass like in Pt. So Glacia can have one without it ruing the aces being exclusive some of us would like to see done.


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