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Challenge 2
Gumball Watterson was eliminated.
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Team Spheal- Spoiler:
Good job on the first challenge. Your job is to correctly identify the name of and arm the three gladiators below with the provided armor and weapons. There is a specific formula for what belongs on which gladiator. The name clue will operate as a hint. There are two hints provided for each and a third will be provided at a team's request after the first twenty-four hours. Each item can only be used once, and there's no guarantee every item will be used. Items Sword Small Round Shield High Leg Greaves Dorsal Helmet Net Sickle Padded Shin Guard Low Leg Greaves Dagger Spear Talon Helmet Trident Large Oblong Shield Shoulder Guard Gladiator 1 - "_ _ R _ _ _ L O _ E _" - This gladiator is known for their focus on defense rather than offense - This gladiator is known for their weak shins Gladiator 2 - "_ E T _ _ R _ _" - This gladiator is known for their focus on offense rather than defense - This gladiator is known for their ease of movement Gladiator 3 - "_ _ P _ O M _ _ H _" - This gladiator is known for resembling the hoplite - This gladiator is known for making up where they fall short The first team to private message me a list of correct answers wins; additionally, the team representative may choose half of their poisoned members to save. The losing team loses all of their poisoned members. If both teams answer the same amount of questions correct, both lose all of their poisoned members. You have until July 8th 6PM EST to send in answers. Good luck. |
The answers are as follows:
Murmillones Large Oblong Shield Sword Low Leg Greaves Dorsal Helmet Retiarii Shoulder Guard Trident Net Dagger Hoplomachi Small Round Shield Spear High Leg Greaves Talon Helmet Padded Shin Guard Team Ludicolo's answers- Spoiler:
Team Spheal's answers- Spoiler:
Note: "Talon" was simply a hint as to the personality of the helmet's design. Team Spheal wins the challenge. Their team representative my private message me one person out of their three poisoned members to cure and keep from being eliminated. On the other hand, Team Ludicolo's poisoned members have this last chance to sing their regrets before they viciously succumb to the poison. :) If it's any consolation, Team Ludicolo would have lost even without the inclusion of the Talon Helmet. |
Actually, the score should be 15 a piece by each competitor because a dagger was used by the Hoplomachii, as indicated by many sources
Hoplomachus: "The hoplomachus was outfitted in virtually the same way as the Thraex, except that the crest of his helmet lacked the griffin protome (the head of an animal or human used as a decorative element). The principal weapons of the hoplomachus were a lance (hasta) and a short sword or dagger that was held in the left hand, together with a small round shield. " "Weapon: spear (hasta), dagger (pugio)" "A dagger called a pugio or a semispathae or half-swords might also be one of this gladiator's weapons. The Hoplomachi also carried a lance (hasta). The hasta was not thrown, it was used for thrusting and approximately six feet in length." "A hoplomachus was equipped with a helmet, a small round shield, a pari of high greaves and a manica on his right arm. He was armed with a spear and a dagger or short sword." Link 1, Link 2, Link 3, Link 4 You should absolutely make sure that your information for the challenges are absolutely correct, as we had dagger under Retiarii and we knew he used it in combat, but we switched it over to the Hoplomachii because we knew each item could only be used once. In retrospect, this challenge should be a tie - 15 a piece for each team after both missing the Talon Helmet - and it should come down to who submitted their list first. |
A dagger was completely optional for the Hoplomachii (in regards to a "short sword"), while it was manditory for the Retariarii, maybe that's why it counted. You couldn't repeat so its natural the dagger went to retariarii
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If you honestly think I'm going to allow 8 members of my team get eliminated because of a technicality, then you are sadly mistaken. |
The options given were the options given. You would think it natural for one to assume that the only dagger in play would go to the gladiator that must carry one, as it is their last resort lifeline in battle, while the other one is strictly optional or that can vary between such and a short sword.
Your adamancy is justified; however, even if things are changed to suit your contention, the challenge states that if both teams score the same points then both lose their poisoned players. I'm sorry if this displeases you. |
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I actually said if the dorsal helmet counts for the Murmillones then the talon should count for the Hoplomachi but they ignored me.
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That's why I'm dropping out.
They trusted the guy who thought "gladiators with weak shins meant they recruited the crippled as gladiators and so they needed protection" (paraphrasing) with our list/decision making. The same one who couldn't differentiate foot wraps from leg padding and caused you to lose the elimination due to his inability to pay attention. He was also the major advocate of not putting the talon helmet on the list. He's the type who has to share his opinions and treat them as truth without actually researching or thinking about them. I'm not as nice as you are. This team's a little too frustrating for me to deal with for an intellectual activity like this. For those of you who would argue "this is just a game, chill," your inability to think and comprehend simple things is not a game. It's your brain, it's who you are. You may be happy in your ignorance but I'm tired of seeng it everywhere I go. As far as the majority rule thing goes, there's someone on this site who has an Isaac Asimov (great man) quote in their signature that speaks to how I feel on the subject. |
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But if you insist on leaving, may I make a request to Antemortem? If he leaves, may we opt to keep Umbreon in the game for a while longer? Treat Marsyas' resignation as the second poison death for this round? |
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I was, for the most part, ignored. I even requested others to read and review the debate then weigh in but still, nothing. May I suggest understanding a situation before voicing your uninformed opinion on it? Also the reason I'm ready to walk away from this is because it's a simple challenge. If it was a serious issue I wouldn't give up so easily. I just have more important stuff to do than trying to explain the basic concepts of critical thinking to people on a pokemon web forum. Nice try though. |
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And I understand it's a simple challenge, but it's a nice philosophy to hold in all aspects of one's life. The only time to stop trying is when the person you're speaking to is far to stubborn or arrogant to be reached. In that case, there's no point in trying to change a lost cause. But if you insist on leaving, go ahead. But next time why not try and leave without a fuss, rather than sounding like an indignant child? Not to be rude, but that's what you come across as. Goodbye. |
Why does this matter ?_? Our team won and we only lost Umbreon who doesn't seen to mind so... It's not really an issue at all?
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"Rather than backing away, stay a while and try to explain things how you believe them to be. Treat ignorance as a disease: it can be cured, but only if you work towards finding that cure, rather than avoiding the infection altogether." If you read then you know I stood my ground on multiple occasions. It was only after time and time again (trying to speak to a person too stubborn to be reached) that I finally gave up. As the challenges are suppose to get harder, I foresaw this issue only growing and threw in the towel early. Funny how you spit philosophy yet can't understand "having better things to do" than debate for hours over something as little as this. Also, philosophy is always built on ones opinions, not fact, whereas me having more urgent issues (engineer in college) is a fact. I'm fine with being a child. I just wonder what that implies for the people who aren't as smart (I'm not even that intelligent, I'm just not devoid of thought) as the child. Honestly, I'm hoping this grand display of being fed up and childish, as you put it, prompts said person to think more. |
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And I told them the answer and they argued/disagreed. Btw i don't know crap about the Romans either. We were on equal footing. All they literally had to do was pay attention/think. |
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Is this really so hard to grasp? |
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This obviously wasn't the best way to handle it and I knew this would happen, I just don't really care at this point :p Plus I was kinda calling all people like this out. When they have to read this stuff (as ugly and mean as it may be) they also have to think about it. |
Marsyas are you honestly dropping out? Pahahahh we didnt ignore you at all. You said to those you didn't know gladiators equipment they should at least give out their opinion right? Well, did i do it? Did I give my opinion? Did I spend 1-2 whole hours to research this? I did what you asked. You're a nice guy and all and don't get sad dude, the Talon Helmet was supposed to be the "trick" in this challenge. Besides, nobody did ignore you at all. Did we say "OMG U SO STUPID "TALON HELMET"? PAHHA WAT A NUB!!11!1!!!"? No. We only wanted to make sure if talon helmet is really with the holplomachus. We can't just "oh since both used to wear helmets, then give out two helmets to each". We have to make sure that he really has it. Also we get ignored everywhere. It's not just you, I got ignored by like, two people here once.
edit: and the talon helmet, is like, not mentioned anywhere. Please don't leave sigh. I am enjoying this game and it would be bad if you guys ruin it by leaving. I myself was not a fan of this challenge but, come on. |
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