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Perriechu July 11th, 2014 6:45 AM

Contests Return!
 
With the newest CoroCoro leaks it brings us amazing news! Contests are making a comeback! But it should make sense, right? Gen 3's unique factor were the contests, they were then developed further in Gen IV by adding other areas such as an awful Dance competition and dressing up your Pokemon!

This all makes its glorious return, after a whole generation without it, in ORAS!

It seems that we can see our dressed up Pokemon in Amie, too, unless it's just for Pikachu!



All the Pikachu's clothing colours relate to the categories of the contests, too! LOOK AT THE CUTE PIKACHUS THOUGH!

So, what do you think about the contests returning with the Gen IV features? Did you like them at all? Are you excited about contests? Or are you purely there to be Hoenn's next top model? to win Gym battles?

Discuss!

blue July 11th, 2014 6:48 AM

I think it was a given that Contests would be back in ORAS, as such a staple to the Gen III games it would be silly not to include them. I loved playing in the contests and raising the Beauty and other stats of Pokémon, the games were so much fun too. n_n

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2014 6:56 AM

I expected them to be back (I think we all did). So glad to see dressing up cross over to the Hoenn contests. The dance portion (the rock hard pikachu looks like it's dancing in one of them) looks nice. I do hope that the judging portion is based of the RS contests. Gah, now I'm saddened that we have to wait until Lilycove to get the fourth ribbon in each category, well at least it's not all four like in Emerald.

Leaf Magics July 11th, 2014 9:54 AM

I'm glad to see contests confirmed, and Amie too.

One thing I would like to see is the ability to let us reset or alter our Pokémon's contest stats, if those make a return.

Nah July 11th, 2014 10:03 AM

They would give Pikachu costumes....

I was fairly certain that Contests would make a return in ORAS, seeing how Hoenn was the region to introduce it and all. I just hope they improve it; I didn't find Contests terribly good in R/S.

Nah July 11th, 2014 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ausaudriel (Post 8343463)
You're crazy! Contests were like, the best part of RSE, haha.

I'm so pumped about ORAS holy crap. I'm so glad contests are back.

I found them to be a bit unpolished; it felt like the idea wasn't quite complete. But its likely that they'll improve contests and I'll have fun with them this time.

But I wish that they'd bring PokeStar Studios back too....

FlamebirdXZ July 11th, 2014 10:55 AM

I am so hyped for the fact that the contest are returning. Honestly, they were my favorite part of RSE. They got terrible with subsequent generations so I hope they stick with their core fundamentals.

I seriously doubt you'll be able to dress up your pokemon in ORAS. I think those pikachu's are just different forms because you can see them being played with in pokemon Amie. I don't think you would be able to do that if you were just dressing them up. Especially because idol pikachu has different eyes. I think those different forms of pikachu will give you a competitive edge in each area of the upcoming contest.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2014 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Leaf Magics (Post 8343403)
I'm glad to see contests confirmed, and Amie too.

One thing I would like to see is the ability to let us reset or alter our Pokémon's contest stats, if those make a return.

Maybe they add berries that lower contests stats similar to the EV berries. They'll make your Pokemon dumber, uglier, less cute, weaker, and uncool...

Braxien July 11th, 2014 11:08 AM

It is great to see that Amie has been confirmed. However, the Contests never really appealed to me. One reason, as the original post stated, the terrible adquate (...) Dance Contest. Hopefully it has much more quality when Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire is released on the 3DS, unlike previous Contests.

Leaf Magics July 11th, 2014 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8343517)
Maybe they add berries that lower contests stats similar to the EV berries. They'll make your Pokemon dumber, uglier, less cute, weaker, and uncool...

Or like the Reset Bag on Super Training. It could also be similar to how juice worked in the Pokéathlon, where after a certain amount of Pokéblocks, their effects are reset. Or maybe the Pokéblock's effects could disappear with time.

Anyway, that would allow us to do well in every category using a single Pokémon (which is something I would really like), in exchange for a bit of time readjusting its contest stats.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2014 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Braxien (Post 8343534)
It is great to see that Amie has been confirmed. However, the Contests never really appealed to me. One reason, as the original post stated, the terrible adquate (...) Dance Contest. Hopefully it has much more quality when Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire is released on the 3DS, unlike previous Contests.

The original contests (RSE contests) lacked a dance part so you might've liked that style better.

I rather they not be temporary. I tend to take awhile between contests.

Yato July 11th, 2014 12:14 PM

ORAS without contests would've been like HGSS without the Bug Catching Contest: they're staples to the games and thus would not be removed.

Anyway, I'd like to see items that lower or reset the conditions of the various categories. I found it really hard to get Milotic because I couldn't make blue Pokeblocks that were high enough level and low enough feel to max out Feebas's Beauty.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2014 12:23 PM

I had to breed several Feebas in Emerald until I got one to max beauty to evolve it. Could the Pikachu 'formes' be a result of max contest stats instead of just costumes? With Feebas having a new evolution method maxing out a contest stat is now less meaningful.

Xander Olivieri July 11th, 2014 2:56 PM

I don't see any confirmation that Contests are back. Only a dress up feature for Pokemon Amie.

Nah July 11th, 2014 3:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Khrysta (Post 8343856)
I don't see any confirmation that Contests are back. Only a dress up feature for Pokemon Amie.

CoroCoro didn't straight up say that Contests are back. but there are things like:

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Originally Posted by Serebii
We now have more images from John Lenoso which show various forms of Pikachu which appear to be related to the contests.

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Originally Posted by Bulbapedia
Hard Rock Pikachu is shown participating in a Pokémon Contest.

This picture:

I will admit that this doesn't mean that Contests are 100% confirmed to be back in ORAS, but its really not a huge stretch of the imagination that Contests would return in the remake of the region it debuted in.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2014 3:42 PM

Plus the Contest halls show up on the map, meaning they should be back.

Yato July 11th, 2014 3:48 PM

To add to what Zekrom and ORaAS said, the article questions what the connection with the Pikachu outfits are with contests (コンテスト; seen below Smart Pika). I doubt they'd mention them if they wouldn't be returning.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2014 4:09 PM

Do you think that perhaps they'll add more to contests? I expect next issue to be focused on contests as a whole as they promise to talk more about the Pika formes/customizations next issue and they're connected to contests.

Jasonmii July 11th, 2014 4:14 PM

I am actually pretty hyped for this. I think contests with 3D models would be awesome. :) I never really did much with contests in the original games, but the dress-up feature seem pretty cool.

Altairis July 11th, 2014 4:22 PM

Yes! Nice to get confirmation. I'm a little worried, though. What do you guys think about the dressed up Pikachus? Think it's a dress up part like DPPt Contests or some other thing?

Leaf Magics July 11th, 2014 4:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Altairis (Post 8343962)
Yes! Nice to get confirmation. I'm a little worried, though. What do you guys think about the dressed up Pikachus? Think it's a dress up part like DPPt Contests or some other thing?

They could be like the Furfrou forms. If the magazine says they are related to contests, maybe Pikachu (and only Pikachu, since they apparently are forms for it according to Serebii) can get dressed up for the contest and it lasts for some time after it, or it gets an outfit as a prize for winning each contest category.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2014 4:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Altairis (Post 8343962)
Yes! Nice to get confirmation. I'm a little worried, though. What do you guys think about the dressed up Pikachus? Think it's a dress up part like DPPt Contests or some other thing?

They may be formes. Maybe looks only, or maybe something like the Rotom formes. I say this as they have some features (beyond just clothes) that aren't in normal Pikachu such as the big eyebrows on Hard Rock Pikachu. Also they all have a black (I guess you could say shaped like a triangle) spot at the tip of it's tails which aren't in either Male or Female Pikachu. Also they seem to all be female as their tails aren't spiked but heart shaped.

Xander Olivieri July 11th, 2014 6:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Altairis (Post 8343962)
Yes! Nice to get confirmation. I'm a little worried, though. What do you guys think about the dressed up Pikachus? Think it's a dress up part like DPPt Contests or some other thing?

But there is no confirmation.

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Originally Posted by Zekrom (Post 8343862)
CoroCoro didn't straight up say that Contests are back. but there are things like:





This picture:

I will admit that this doesn't mean that Contests are 100% confirmed to be back in ORAS, but its really not a huge stretch of the imagination that Contests would return in the remake of the region it debuted in.

All I see is fan pandering with no substance. Its just an assumption right now. That may not be Contests, or they may not be contests as we know them. Could be something similar to the Dance recital thing, We get to dress them up and have them automatically do something with no extra stats involved.

We'll have to wait until next month for the promised extended info, but so far there hasn't been any form of confirmation. Bad fan translation, over-zealous hype. Let's wait for real information to appear before jumping the gun like this.


Actually...we only have to wait a few days. The main site should update to reflect something from CoroCoro like they usually do. So we may get some form of confirmation then.

Yato July 11th, 2014 6:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Khrysta (Post 8344140)
All I see is fan pandering with no substance. Its just an assumption right now. That may not be Contests, or they may not be contests as we know them. Could be something similar to the Dance recital thing, We get to dress them up and have them automatically do something with no extra stats involved.

Why would contests be mentioned in the article, then? I'm just curious to hear your reasoning.

Xander Olivieri July 11th, 2014 6:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Yato (Post 8344147)
Why would contests be mentioned in the article, then? I'm just curious to hear your reasoning.

I don't see Contests mentioned by anyone other than the translator. Which as I said. Bad Translation, Over-zealous hype. Its wanted so since it "Looks" like it exists thats all the rabid fans see.

I see something unrelated to contests. I see an updated Pokemon Amie feature. Could also be like the PR videos from XY. Nothing about the page or the screenshots on the page show anything about an actual contest. All we have is the questionable skills of fan translations, which as of late have had severe issues with accuracy.

Yato July 11th, 2014 6:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Khrysta (Post 8344156)
I don't see Contests mentioned by anyone other than the translator. Which as I said. Bad Translation, Over-zealous hype. Its wanted so since it "Looks" like it exists thats all the rabid fans see.

I'm not too well-versed in Japanese, but I do know Katakana rather well. At the bottom of the image, right below Doctor Pikachu, there is the word コンテスト. The literal romanization is "kontesuto", and the actual translation is "contest" or "contests". If you don't believe me, look up the Japanese word for "contest" on http://jisho.org/ (a rather reliable English-Japanese dictionary).

On a related note, the five Pikachus each fit the five contest categories--you have the cool one (Hard Rock), the beautiful one (Madame), the cute one (Idol), the smart one (Doctor), and the tough one (Masked). Certainly, it's possible that they aren't related at all, but in my opinion, it'd be too much of a coincidence.

Belldandy July 11th, 2014 6:58 PM

This was literally the only good thing (asides nature introductions) that came from RSE.

Can't wait to trade my XY Pokemon to ORAS, get contest ribbons, and bring 'em back. Ribbbonnnnsss <3!

Xander Olivieri July 11th, 2014 7:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Yato (Post 8344168)
I'm not too well-versed in Japanese, but I do know Katakana rather well. At the bottom of the image, right below Doctor Pikachu, there is the word コンテスト. The literal romanization is "kontesuto", and the actual translation is "contest" or "contests". If you don't believe me, look up the Japanese word for "contest" on http://jisho.org/ (a rather reliable English-Japanese dictionary).

On a related note, the five Pikachus each fit the five contest categories--you have the cool one (Hard Rock), the beautiful one (Madame), the cute one (Idol), the smart one (Doctor), and the tough one (Masked). Certainly, it's possible that they aren't related at all, but in my opinion, it'd be too much of a coincidence.

It was too much of a coincidence that there were Emeralds in Clay's Gym back in Gen 5.

What you say makes sense when you put it out like this, but there still isn't any actual showing of Contest play. I see PR video like quality and updated Pokemon Amie. It doesn't even look like something that would be part of the Traditional Pokemon Contests and Super Contests were a completely different take on the contests.

If its anything, it is a time waster as it very well should be. Something to take a break from the main game and do. If its like Super Contests then they ruined contests for this game. I'd be more willing to accept Gen 5's performance thing. That was at least cute. Even a PR video that you can make and share with friends. But Super Contests in the remake that had the original contests? The only redeeming quality of the Gen 3 games? Please no.


Is it possible to translate that full line? There was a lot more writing down there and if its something about holding a contest people gunna be mad. Since that has happened before as well.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2014 7:13 PM

They said they're going to talk more about the Pikachu's next time. If the official site doesn't elaborate we'll find out in next month's issue for sure.
Super contests weren't that bad, why the hate on them? Way better than Unova's stale musicals imo, you didn't get a reward for those...

Pepperton July 11th, 2014 10:28 PM

If the Pikachu costumes have nothing to do with contests, it'll go down as a hilarious coincidence that they each match up with a contest stat. In any case, I wouldn't mind if contests in Hoenn do get some upgrades, but they need to make sure not to convert them into what Sinnoh's contests were like. RSE's Contests were much better in my opinion, and they'd do well not to stray from the originals in this regard.

Can't deny how cute those Pikachus are though, ah. :3

Salzorrah July 11th, 2014 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepperton (Post 8344488)
If the Pikachu costumes have nothing to do with contests, it'll go down as a hilarious coincidence that they each match up with a contest stat. In any case, I wouldn't mind if contests in Hoenn do get some upgrades, but they need to make sure not to convert them into what Sinnoh's contests were like. RSE's Contests were much better in my opinion, and they'd do well not to stray from the originals in this regard.

Can't deny how cute those Pikachus are though, ah. :3

I noticed that, considering Madame Pikachu is based on the Beauty Stat, the Rock Hard Pikachu on the Cool Stat, Idol Pikachu on the Cute Stat, Doctor Pikachu on the Smart Stat, and Masked Pikachu on the Tough Stat.

Also noticable with the colors of the outfits matching up with the colors of the stats, with Blue, Red, Pink, Green, and Orange, respectively.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2014 12:32 AM

Anyone else than me noticed that they're all female (look at the heart tail)? I notice that the costumed themselves seem feminine. Doctor Pikachu even has piggy tails like a stereotypical smart girl in anime. I wonder if male Pikachu will look different in those costumes. Like Monsieur Pikachu instead of Madame, and a male idol pikachu wearing funny male idol pants that some may consider cute.

Altairis July 12th, 2014 5:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Khrysta (Post 8344192)
Is it possible to translate that full line? There was a lot more writing down there and if its something about holding a contest people gunna be mad. Since that has happened before as well.

They're definitely contest related. Okay, I guess it isn't 100% confirmation, it's more like implied confirmation. They point out contests at the bottom, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't do that if there wasn't some correlation. Just like how they did with the Primal Reversals, they were like "Wow, they look different!" but never actually said they were.

The text at the bottom of this screenshot, "ここは何かのコンテスト会場?" which translates to "Koko wa nanika kontesuto kaijou?" means something like "Is some sort of contest here?" or uh, "Here is the contest venue?" I'm not very good with kanji yet (会場) but I know that translates to kaijou, and the kanji they used isn't the one used to mean start but instead "meeting place" I think. I had to google that part but I know the first is definitely talking about "here" and contests. The "here" they're referencing is the photo of a dressed up Pikachu on some stage.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2014 10:52 AM

I thought up of something they could add. Maybe each contest hall has their own unique quirk for te first (or second half) One can have Dancing like in Sinnoh. Another can have musical like dancing, another have acting like in Pokéstudios, and another could be simple. Thus giving each hall something unique other than just what class of contest you can find.

Or maybe a unique thing for each of the 5 contest stats. Like dancing for Coolness (look at Hard Rock Pikachu), modeling for Beauty, A memory mini quiz for Smartness, A simple dress up musical style for Cuteness, and a wrestling mini game for Toughness.

Universe July 12th, 2014 11:56 AM

This newest insert has me wondering a lot about contests.
I was already excited for them to begin with but to see miss 'Madame Pikachu' and all of her outfits make me wonder if they'll actually make a bunch of outfits similar that maybe certain Pokemon can wear? I might be thoroughly disappointed if it's Pikachu-only, but I doubt they'll do that to us. XD;

I'm pretty sure they're related to contests anyway with the outfits matching the themes as well as the colors... has that even been confirmed? What a tease.

Anyway I'm hella happy to see contests are back because yay I love contests and wow outfits!! Can't wait to see what all has changed with contests.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 12th, 2014 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mario (Post 8345388)
This newest insert has me wondering a lot about contests.
I was already excited for them to begin with but to see miss 'Madame Pikachu' and all of her outfits make me wonder if they'll actually make a bunch of outfits similar that maybe certain Pokemon can wear? I might be thoroughly disappointed if it's Pikachu-only, but I doubt they'll do that to us. XD;

I'm pretty sure they're related to contests anyway with the outfits matching the themes as well as the colors... has that even been confirmed? What a tease.

Anyway I'm hella happy to see contests are back because yay I love contests and wow outfits!! Can't wait to see what all has changed with contests.

They've given Pikachu things only it has. Like a game where it can't evolve, the only one with an anime cry, and the most event moves ever (even some that don't fit as well such as surf and fly). I wonder if they're Pikachu only if it'll have moves exclusive to these costumes. I think that there's a chance (like 40 percent) that they may be Pikachu exclusive formes inspired by contests.

Cloudfury July 12th, 2014 3:38 PM

Nintendo. Stahp. It's not even close to November DX

Pepperton July 12th, 2014 11:10 PM

Wonder if we'll be able to buy costumes for our Pokemon in the same shops that sell clothing for the character, if customization is brought back from Kalos. Obviously, there wouldn't be specialized outfits for each and every Pokemon, but having general ones that can be applied to all of them would work. Also intrigued to hear how it affects Contest judging.

Salzorrah July 13th, 2014 12:01 AM

I still think the outfits are reserved for starters, baby Pokemon, and Pikachu. Maybe you get plus points if the Pokemon wears the appropriate clothing, minus if wearing the wrong one?

Altairis July 13th, 2014 3:33 AM

I really dislike how they make special things only for certain Pokemon ;; I think it should be all or none, especially with something silly like dress up.

What kind of contests would you prefer to appear? Classic RSE ones, or 3-stage DPPt ones? For the Appeals stage in either version, would you like multiple judges or just one?

Nah July 13th, 2014 5:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Altairis (Post 8346605)
I really dislike how they make special things only for certain Pokemon ;; I think it should be all or none, especially with something silly like dress up.

What kind of contests would you prefer to appear? Classic RSE ones, or 3-stage DPPt ones? For the Appeals stage in either version, would you like multiple judges or just one?

I agree that it would be nice if they did these things for all Pokemon, and not just a certain few, but its not really feasible to do so. We have 721 Pokemon now; programming these things for each and every one of those would drive the programmers and artists/animators insane.

As for the type of contests, I'd rather that they do something new. I never could get that into the original R/S/E contests or the DPPt ones. I want them to put in PokeStar Studios to do something else so that maybe I'll be interested this time.

Altairis July 13th, 2014 5:49 AM

They don't have to be elaborate things, although I guess it's pretty complicated now that the Pokemon are 3D models instead of sprites. I thought the DPPt dressup was pretty fun ;;

L0RD G3NGAR July 13th, 2014 7:27 AM

Well, I hope the original R/S/E contest return. Because I liked the style of that more, but I wouldn't mind if they added the dance competition to add some extra points.

Pepperton July 20th, 2014 2:02 PM

Contests are basically confirmed because of the Pikachu Costumes released in July's CoroCoro. It's unknown what they're going to be like in the new games though, and it may have something to do with these new outfits Pikachu is sporting. Nothing about the costumes have been confirmed, but there are some subtle hints at their significance on the official ORAS page.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 20th, 2014 3:31 PM

I'm hoping there will be only three stages to contests like the Sinnoh contests if the dances are being added, of course they may be a sign that Sinnoh Super contests could be in these games in addition to Hoenn style contests, it'll be the best of both worlds by having both :3

The Masked One July 21st, 2014 2:17 PM

I expected this, seeing as contests did appear in R/S/E. I never used the contests much in R/S/E, but now that it looks like you'll be able to dress them up like in D/P/PT, this could be a great improvement. Now just waiting for the Battle Frontier, then I'd be pretty darn happy with this remake.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 21st, 2014 3:06 PM

I hope that they'll have a 3D stadium for us to do our appeals.

TRGrunt July 22nd, 2014 7:59 AM

I really liked the contests from R/D/E so I do hope they come back. It was one of most fun parts of the games.

Pepperton July 22nd, 2014 8:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TRGrunt (Post 8363104)
I really liked the contests from R/D/E so I do hope they come back. It was one of most fun parts of the games.

They were fun, certainly. I wonder how these costumes introduced will affect the contests in ORAS, though.

Ammako July 22nd, 2014 8:50 AM

I'm not sure why people needed a confirmation for such a major feature from R/S/E.
Game Corner I could understand, since they've changed that to a Picross/Minesweeper combo in the non-JP releases of HG/SS, then completely removed it in all of their games since then.
But Contests? What reason would there be not to include them?

TRGrunt July 22nd, 2014 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepperton (Post 8363149)
They were fun, certainly. I wonder how these costumes introduced will affect the contests in ORAS, though.

Yeah, I guess the costumes are just an added detail/aspect of the contests. Like some costumes are worth more points depending on the pokemon.

Rettan July 22nd, 2014 12:51 PM

Does this mean the return of Pokeblocks too?? What about Contest Stats??
What about Feebas' evolution o_o

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 22nd, 2014 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepperton (Post 8363149)
They were fun, certainly. I wonder how these costumes introduced will affect the contests in ORAS, though.

Someone suggested that perhaps they'll work like the contest scarfs, meaning they could boost their contest stats.

Aether★ July 22nd, 2014 10:39 PM

Awesome. I'm going to trade my Shiny Milotic and win every single contest in that game hehe.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 22nd, 2014 11:02 PM

I wonder if contest stats from back in Gen IV will still be reflected as it's been awhile. Perhaps the transfer to V and then VI might've wiped the contest stats out of our old contest mons :(

coolking49 July 23rd, 2014 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8364171)
I wonder if contest stats from back in Gen IV will still be reflected as it's been awhile. Perhaps the transfer to V and then VI might've wiped the contest stats out of our old contest mons :(

iirc a Feebas with perfect beauty in gen 3 will still evolve if transferred to gen 6, so they probably haven't.
But on that note, its interesting that we finally get a remake of a game from which Pokemon are transferable. What about, say, a Pokemon which has already won a contest and gotten a ribbon. What happens if you transfer that over? Can you still use it in the master rank if its already won the master rank in rse?

Leaf Magics July 23rd, 2014 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by coolking49 (Post 8364230)
iirc a Feebas with perfect beauty in gen 3 will still evolve if transferred to gen 6, so they probably haven't.
But on that note, its interesting that we finally get a remake of a game from which Pokemon are transferable. What about, say, a Pokemon which has already won a contest and gotten a ribbon. What happens if you transfer that over? Can you still use it in the master rank if its already won the master rank in rse?

That part about Feebas is interesting. I thought Contest stats had been removed when I saw they merged their Ribbons. If those remain, maybe the individual Contest Ribbons are still there also, and if they're there, they should allow us to go into the higher ranks if the same contests return.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 23rd, 2014 10:58 AM

Good point. I would think they would. Unless they make new ribbons compared to those available in RSE...

Pepperton July 24th, 2014 9:48 PM

I'd like the ribbon system to remain as it was in the originals, it functioned fine and the end result was something to look forward to. Maybe you can pin the ribbon on to your Pokemon's costume!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 24th, 2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepperton (Post 8367502)
I'd like the ribbon system to remain as it was in the originals, it functioned fine and the end result was something to look forward to. Maybe you can pin the ribbon on to your Pokemon's costume!

Maybe after winning? We could even get a picture with our winning Pokemon. Speaking of which I sure hope that the painter from RSE returns. I got a drawing for each category (most of them being of my Prize winning Latias...)

Altairis July 25th, 2014 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8367550)
Maybe after winning? We could even get a picture with our winning Pokemon. Speaking of which I sure hope that the painter from RSE returns. I got a drawing for each category (most of them being of my Prize winning Latias...)

I never got a painting, so I definitely hope he returns!!

I assume that the category splits will return as they were in the originals, and the Contest stats will just be unviewable if you trade your Pokemon over to XY.

Salzorrah July 25th, 2014 1:55 AM

The only painting I've ever received as far as I can remember is the Beauty Contest with Milotic lol xD I hope they do return with a more lively painting haha

And as for the category splits, either they just hide it in XY or add it in the patch.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 25th, 2014 12:05 PM

I don't recall them having the contest stats visible in the games that lacked them which shared the same generation with RSEDPP (aka FrLg HgSs), so it'll likely be hidden in XY like it has in the prementioned games plus Gen V and XY.

XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE August 5th, 2014 6:53 PM

I cannot WAIT for this!! :) I spent almost the same amount of time taking part in the Contests as I did playing the main game lol xD It'd be cool if you could take part in them online against Passers By etc. in much the same way as you could trade/battle in X and Y :)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 7th, 2014 10:09 PM

While everyone is at the Mega thread I'll just take the time to post this
I'm liking the new look. I wonder who that girl with the blue hair is. At first I thought it was Winona, but it seems to be someone else. Perhaps she's the Aarune of contest :)

Btw I fear the reactions of May's contest dress from those who were bothered by her new normal clothes. I think there may be five, one for each of the contest stats.

Yato August 7th, 2014 10:17 PM

Lucia (a.k.a. me /brick'd (one of my nicks is Lucia)) is really cute <3 Also, looks like the protags. get contest apparel just like Lucas and Dawn did in DPPt? That, or Trainer Customization confirmed :D Maybe at least for contests; I can see five like ^ stated.

Also find it neat the Pikas can learn special moves; poor Pika Ph.D being the only one to learn a status move, though :<

Salzorrah August 7th, 2014 10:20 PM

Atleast we know #ContestsConfirmed hnnng YES!

I wonder if you can have a boss battle with Lucia :(

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 7th, 2014 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Yato (Post 8391239)
Lucia (a.k.a. me /brick'd (one of my nicks is Lucia)) is really cute <3 Also, looks like the protags. get contest apparel just like Lucas and Dawn did in DPPt? That, or Trainer Customization confirmed :D Maybe at least for contests; I can see five like ^ stated.

Also find it neat the Pikas can learn special moves; poor Pika Ph.D being the only one to learn a status move, though :<

According to Serebii she'll give us costumes as we go, so it seems like these aren't the only ones. It'll be interesting to see Beautiful Brendan and Rock star May xD

Perriechu August 7th, 2014 10:34 PM

I hope contests don't turn out to be a mix of Gen IV's version and musicals from V. I want them like the original tbh. ):

I'm still hoping we get some sort of battle round but we more than likely won't since that would have been revealed by now, I thought the Pikachu's getting special moves was a little hint that we were but apparently not lol.

also that latest contest scan annoys me because why is Salamence randomly on stage with a bunch of Pikachus?

Famon August 7th, 2014 10:39 PM

I'm wondering how old Lucia is !!!
I like her to be same age as the Player Or Ash.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 7th, 2014 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Perrie ✿ (Post 8391274)
I hope contests don't turn out to be a mix of Gen IV's version and musicals from V. I want them like the original tbh. ):

I'm still hoping we get some sort of battle round but we more than likely won't since that would have been revealed by now, I thought the Pikachu's getting special moves was a little hint that we were but apparently not lol.

also that latest contest scan annoys me because why is Salamence randomly on stage with a bunch of Pikachus?

Considering the costumes I'm guessing they'll at least be similar to Super Contests.

Salamence looks pretty cool in there tbh xD.

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Originally Posted by destinedjagold (Post 8391285)
I dunno about the rest of you, but I'm really glad to finally see Brendan's whole head, and by that, I mean his hair without that white hat of his that I thought was his hair. xD

Yeah, he looks just like Ruby without that hat on, minus the scar (well of course, he's based off of him). I can see him wearing these costumes in the manga. I hope he can have Sapphire put on the Beauty or the Cute costumes. I bet she'll look great in them (and I can imagine her protesting against the idea).

L0RD G3NGAR August 7th, 2014 11:41 PM

It saddens me. I don't think the battle portion will be returning. ;-;

Yato August 7th, 2014 11:45 PM

I'm hoping you'll be able to fight Lucia, especially if she's able to use Mega Altaria. (Also, off the topic of this thread but since she seems to be a notable figure with a Mega, maybe that confirms Mega Flygon since Aarune has a Flygon? Can't remember if someone mentioned this in the Mega Evos. thread or not XD)

Still wondering if any other Pokemon'll receive costumes. If they do, I can't see them getting special moves like Pikachu, but then again, who knows, haha.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2014 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Yato (Post 8391350)
I'm hoping you'll be able to fight Lucia, especially if she's able to use Mega Altaria. (Also, off the topic of this thread but since she seems to be a notable figure with a Mega, maybe that confirms Mega Flygon since Aarune has a Flygon? Can't remember if someone mentioned this in the Mega Evos. thread or not XD)

Still wondering if any other Pokemon'll receive costumes. If they do, I can't see them getting special moves like Pikachu, but then again, who knows, haha.

That thought crossed my head too. Perhaps she'll battle in the contests. It'll be interesting if going Mega changes the judging (or if it'll even be possible)

@ Flamebot We still don't know much about how the contests are going to work in these games (I think we need to wait for more to be translated or said in a future issue, or for the official site to update if this issue ends up lacking those specifics)

Hikamaru August 8th, 2014 2:05 AM

I have to say, I'm loving that Lucia character already. The fact her outfit is blue with fluff accentuations definitely fits Altaria being her signature Pokemon. Also, given the CoroCoro scan showed Brendan dressed in Pikachu's Rock Star outfit and May dressed in the Pop Star outfit shows that apparently the player's character dresses up for the contest, sorta like what happened in Sinnoh where the player wore a tuxedo or dress during the contests in D/P/Pt.

Pikachu's different contest outfits having unique moves is pretty nice as well. They all seem fitting for them although Pikachu Belle (aka the Beauty one) learning Icicle Crash kinda made me scratch my head. Don't get why that fits it, but maybe because most Ice-type moves tended to be classed as Beauty as far as move categorization for contests went. Other than that, I can't wait to see which categories the moves from 5th and 6th Gen get placed in given Contests didn't exist after 4th Gen until now.

bobandbill August 8th, 2014 4:42 AM

Brendan looks better in that costume. =p Probably less practical outside in the Hoenn sun though.

I wonder if we'll get other costumes for the protagonists to reflect what contest theme they enter in? After all, the two shown here match two of the Pikachu get-ups remarkably well.

As for how contests work, I would really just rather less dancing and a return to the RSE mechanics. Let some contest moves take appeal points off other Pokemon please, it made it much more fun and strategic.

FlamebirdXZ August 8th, 2014 5:07 AM

I too would like to see Brendan Belle lol I hope contest end up playing the same as in the original games..

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2014 6:43 AM

Contests look to be glorified reasoning to give Pikachu alternate forms. Now I don't expect anything of real value from them since they appear just for Pikachu and it's forms based on what we've been given.

=C. RIP contests.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2014 6:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Khrysta (Post 8391718)
Contests look to be glorified reasoning to give Pikachu alternate forms. Now I don't expect anything of real value from them since they appear just for Pikachu and it's forms based on what we've been given.

=C. RIP contests.

At least it's getting some special moves for what it's worth. I wonder if it'll get to keep them if we evolve it in one of those forms. Imagine an Icicle Crash Raichu holding air balloon.

Pinkie-Dawn August 8th, 2014 7:28 AM

So wait, Pikachu's costumes aren't just for display only? Looks like Pikachu can finally slay dragons without relying on HP Ice, but it must be a physical set, and thank goodness Brick Break, Volt Tackle, and Wild Charge exist. As much as I adore May's contest dress and Lucia, I fear GF may be going overboard with all the midriffs, especially on minors, as we live in a society where showing off a bit of skin is considered as taboo, because it's not professional (just ask the rope guy from One Piece).

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2014 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8391804)
So wait, Pikachu's costumes aren't just for display only? Looks like Pikachu can finally slay dragons without relying on HP Ice, but it must be a physical set, and thank goodness Brick Break, Volt Tackle, and Wild Charge exist. As much as I adore May's contest dress and Lucia, I fear GF may be going overboard with all the midriffs, especially on minors, as we live in a society where showing off a bit of skin is considered as taboo, because it's not professional (just ask the rope guy from One Piece).

It doesn't show much skin. Besides, midriff is considered acceptable in most places, for out of work cloths. More so in Japan though. They really have that idol look to them.

L0RD G3NGAR August 8th, 2014 1:03 PM

I think this confirmes that the battle portion of contest is gone ;-;

R.I.P content

Yato August 8th, 2014 1:12 PM

^How does this confirm the battle portion's gone? As ORaAS stated earlier, we still don't know much about how contests'll work. The only information we do have is that the protags. can change their outfits for contests and Pikachu can change outfits and gain new moves upon doing so.

L0RD G3NGAR August 8th, 2014 1:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Yato (Post 8392264)
^How does this confirm the battle portion's gone? As ORaAS stated earlier, we still don't know much about how contests'll work. The only information we do have is that the protags. can change their outfits for contests and Pikachu can change outfits and gain new moves upon doing so.

Seems to me that we can only use Pikachu in the contest.

Yato August 8th, 2014 1:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Flamebot (Post 8392279)
Seems to me that we can only use Pikachu in the contest.

I doubt that'll be the case, as that'd make contests extremely boring and it'd disappoint a plethora of fans @[email protected] Besides, I'm assuming Lucia took part in contests/will be your opponent, and it's likely she enters Altaria, which is definitely not Pikachu XD

Altairis August 8th, 2014 1:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8391804)
So wait, Pikachu's costumes aren't just for display only? Looks like Pikachu can finally slay dragons without relying on HP Ice, but it must be a physical set, and thank goodness Brick Break, Volt Tackle, and Wild Charge exist. As much as I adore May's contest dress and Lucia, I fear GF may be going overboard with all the midriffs, especially on minors, as we live in a society where showing off a bit of skin is considered as taboo, because it's not professional (just ask the rope guy from One Piece).

Unless Pikachu gains any stat changes I doubt it'll be slaying any real tough dragons anytime soon :(

Well, I guess this sort of confirms a dress up part of the contest. Though I wonder if it'll be selecting from a collection of outfits, since it doesn't seem to be like DPPt's dress up where you could drag and drop, at least in Pika's case.

Pinkie-Dawn August 8th, 2014 1:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Altairis (Post 8392294)
Unless Pikachu gains any stat changes I doubt it'll be slaying any real tough dragons anytime soon :(

That's why the Light Ball exists for Pikachu.

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I doubt that'll be the case, as that'd make contests extremely boring and it'd disappoint a plethora of fans @[email protected] Besides, I'm assuming Lucia took part in contests/will be your opponent, and it's likely she enters Altaria, which is definitely not Pikachu XD
Don't forget Salamence, though Lucia using Altaria irritates me, because it's suppose to be Winnona's ace Pokémon.

Altairis August 8th, 2014 1:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8392302)
That's why the Light Ball exists for Pikachu.

Yeah but with his terrible defenses and Attack it still means Pikachu is going nowhere, as almost all the moves it gets at Physical and Light Ball only doubles its Special Attack. Poor guy :(

I still wonder if they're going to expand the costumes to include Pichu and Raichu. Probably not, but the poor guys are always shoved to the side because of the mascot.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2014 2:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8392302)
That's why the Light Ball exists for Pikachu.


Don't forget Salamence, though Lucia using Altaria irritates me, because it's suppose to be Winnona's ace Pokémon.

You know, I'm thinking that Tropius is Winona's ace. As Mega Altaria loses the flying typing, it no longer fits her main type. Plus Tropius fits in with her home town (and is found nearby...actually most of the gym leader's ace's are found nearby their towns, with the exceptions of Tate and Liza, Roxanne, and Wallace).

Anyways. Perhaps the Pikachu costumes will get a boost in stats like Rotom. What I'll really like to know is if it'll be possible for one to evolve it while in these costumes and pass on the move it knows over to Raichu. Imagine Ice Crashing Raichu with Life orb...

Yato August 8th, 2014 2:54 PM

Icicle Crash Light Ball Pikachu would be loads of fun, too, haha. I also wonder if these Pikachu will be able to be used by NPCs. I can't really see them being used by random ones, but perhaps by important characters. It'd make things more interesting~

Pinkie-Dawn August 8th, 2014 3:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Altairis (Post 8392309)
Yeah but with his terrible defenses and Attack it still means Pikachu is going nowhere, as almost all the moves it gets at Physical and Light Ball only doubles its Special Attack. Poor guy :(

I still wonder if they're going to expand the costumes to include Pichu and Raichu. Probably not, but the poor guys are always shoved to the side because of the mascot.

The Light Ball increases both its Attack and SpA stats, so it isn't something to worry about other than Pichu and Raichu once again getting neglected, especially Raichu when it comes to Mega Evolutions.


Besides Icicle Crash, which other special moves Pikachu gets from those costumes?

Yato August 8th, 2014 3:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8392401)
Besides Icicle Crash, which other special moves Pikachu gets from those costumes?

Rock Star gets Meteor Mash, Pop Idol gets Draining Kiss, Ph.D gets Electric Terrain, and Libre gets Flying Press!

Pika + Light Ball = 110 Attack and 100 Special Attack; Raichu + Life Orb = 117 Attack and Special Attack, but with HP dropping 10% each turn. If you don't want to risk losing the HP, then Light Ball Pika's better, but if not then Raichu would be the better option.

Altairis August 8th, 2014 3:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8392401)
The Light Ball increases both its Attack and SpA stats, so it isn't something to worry about other than Pichu and Raichu once again getting neglected, especially Raichu when it comes to Mega Evolutions.

Ah, whoops. In the older generations it was just Special Attack and I didn't know they changed it in the later ones. My bad. :p

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2014 3:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Altairis (Post 8392424)
Ah, whoops. In the older generations it was just Special Attack and I didn't know they changed it in the later ones. My bad. :p

Me Neither. It seems like Pikachu is getting a lot of good things this generation. First the small boost in it's stats, and then the apperant Light Ball boost. Now these costumes (if they can be used outside of contests, which if Aime is any indication I think that's a yes) with their new moves. Now if it's costume forms get stat boosts (like Rotom), it'll be more dangerous. At this point I think we really need that Mega Raichu to encourage people to evolve their Pikachu's.

Yato August 8th, 2014 3:42 PM

What if Game Freak is discouraging people from evolving their Pikas because they want more people to be like Ash or Red??? (Speaking of, I wonder if Ash will get to do contests and get outfits for his Pikachu.)

I sort of hope Pikachu doesn't get stat boosts, or if it does, that it only gets boosts in its defenses and maybe Speed. As I pointed out earlier, Pika with the Light Ball has pretty decent Attack and Special Attack, so if those were to be increased by the outfits, it would be even stronger when holding the Light Ball @[email protected]

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2014 3:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Yato (Post 8392454)
What if Game Freak is discouraging people from evolving their Pikas because they want more people to be like Ash or Red??? (Speaking of, I wonder if Ash will get to do contests and get outfits for his Pikachu.)

I sort of hope Pikachu doesn't get stat boosts, or if it does, that it only gets boosts in its defenses and maybe Speed. As I pointed out earlier, Pika with the Light Ball has pretty decent Attack and Special Attack, so if those were to be increased by the outfits, it would be even stronger when holding the Light Ball @[email protected]

I actually think that's the case...
Maybe it'll get a 50 point boost. 20 in speed, 10 in it's attacks, and five it's defenses.

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2014 7:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8391729)
At least it's getting some special moves for what it's worth. I wonder if it'll get to keep them if we evolve it in one of those forms. Imagine an Icicle Crash Raichu holding air balloon.

I don't think you'll be able to evolve into Riachu while in those forms. This is a pseudo form change from the looks of how its being treated. It may lock all other form changing abilities (Switching costumes and evolving) unless you remove the older one first. Pikachu is the mascot so seeing it get special treatment like this isn't unfounded.

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8391804)
So wait, Pikachu's costumes aren't just for display only? Looks like Pikachu can finally slay dragons without relying on HP Ice, but it must be a physical set, and thank goodness Brick Break, Volt Tackle, and Wild Charge exist. As much as I adore May's contest dress and Lucia, I fear GF may be going overboard with all the midriffs, especially on minors, as we live in a society where showing off a bit of skin is considered as taboo, because it's not professional (just ask the rope guy from One Piece).

Pikachu's little costume change is kin to Form changes from the looks of how they are treating it, especially since it can keep the costumes while out of the contest halls.

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Originally Posted by Yato (Post 8392454)
What if Game Freak is discouraging people from evolving their Pikas because they want more people to be like Ash or Red??? (Speaking of, I wonder if Ash will get to do contests and get outfits for his Pikachu.)

I sort of hope Pikachu doesn't get stat boosts, or if it does, that it only gets boosts in its defenses and maybe Speed. As I pointed out earlier, Pika with the Light Ball has pretty decent Attack and Special Attack, so if those were to be increased by the outfits, it would be even stronger when holding the Light Ball @[email protected]


I think its just, because Pikachu is the Face of Pokemon. That would be the only real reasoning I see all this focus on it for the costume form change and the Contest focus.

The contests seem to me, like they'll be glorified Musicals. Performing with specific costumes against other Pikachu. I want more info cause my opinion on Contests is very low thanks to recent discoveries. I didn't think they could ruin them further than they did with Super Contests.



I'm shocked I didn't notice this either and seriously hope this isn't part of the requirement surrounding either Contests of the Costumes....ALL of the Pikachu shown in costumes, Libre, Rockstar, Pop Star, Belle, and Ph.D...are ALL FEMALE.


There are indents on all five tails making them have the heart like look.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2014 8:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Khrysta (Post 8392808)
I don't think you'll be able to evolve into Riachu while in those forms. This is a pseudo form change from the looks of how its being treated. It may lock all other form changing abilities (Switching costumes and evolving) unless you remove the older one first. Pikachu is the mascot so seeing it get special treatment like this isn't unfounded.



Pikachu's little costume change is kin to Form changes from the looks of how they are treating it, especially since it can keep the costumes while out of the contest halls.




I think its just, because Pikachu is the Face of Pokemon. That would be the only real reasoning I see all this focus on it for the costume form change and the Contest focus.

The contests seem to me, like they'll be glorified Musicals. Performing with specific costumes against other Pikachu. I want more info cause my opinion on Contests is very low thanks to recent discoveries. I didn't think they could ruin them further than they did with Super Contests.



I'm shocked I didn't notice this either and seriously hope this isn't part of the requirement surrounding either Contests of the Costumes....ALL of the Pikachu shown in costumes, Libre, Rockstar, Pop Star, Belle, and Ph.D...are ALL FEMALE.


There are indents on all five tails making them have the heart like look.

I was the first one to point it out them being all female, during last issue. It took me awhile too. Also note the dark spot on it's tail. It make me wonder if this Pikachu may be a special, one of a kind (female only) Pikachu. It could be like Notch Ear Pichu.

L0RD G3NGAR August 8th, 2014 9:39 PM

Appeal returns. Battle portion confirmed?

Salzorrah August 8th, 2014 9:43 PM

I'm just wondering, since each of the costumes give off a special move, are the costumes considered as formes, a la Rotom style? If so, I'm pretty sure the changing moves thing will be like Rotom's?


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