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your calcs are off js
http://www.pkparaiso.com/imagenes/xy/sprites/animados/stunfisk.gif Stunfisk @ Leftovers Ability: Static EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD Bold Nature - Discharge - Earth Power - Scald - Toxic 252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Flash Cannon/Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Stunfisk: 108-128 (25.5 - 30.3%) -- 0.8% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery 0 SpA Stunfisk Earth Power vs. 172 HP / 0 SpD Magnezone: 360-424 (111.1 - 130.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO you should be ashamed |
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-------------------------------------------------- So, Stunfisk :O Gliscor @ Toxic Orb Ability: Poison Heal EVs: 244 HP / 192 SpD / 72 Spe Careful Nature - Protect - Roost - Toxic - Earthquake One of the prime annoyances in OU, Sdef Gliscor makes Stunfisk have Scald as its only way to retaliate, only to be Toxicstalled to death. 0 SpA Stunfisk Scald vs. 244 HP / 192+ SpD Gliscor: 90-106 (25.5 - 30.1%) -- possible 5HKO after Poison Heal 0 Atk Gliscor Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Stunfisk: 186-218 (44 - 51.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery These calcs show that Scald is sponged by Gliscor despite the weakness to water, and cannot be burned because of Poison Heal activated. Gliscor on the other hand can add some chip damage via Earthquake while Roost/Protect-stalling a badly poisoned fish to death. |
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Trait: Pressure 252 SAtk / 252 Speed / 6 your mom Timid Nature - Substitute - Freeze Dry - Hurricane - Roost Go me. 252 SpA Articuno Freeze Dry vs. 252 HP / 192+ SpD Gliscor: 340-408 (96 - 115.2%) -- 75% chance to OHKO |
The UU behemoth takes the stage!
Aggron @ Aggronite Ability: Sturdy >>> Filter EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD Careful Nature - Rest - Sleep Talk - Heavy Slam - Earthquake Mega Aggron is a goddamn tank that takes laughable damage from Hurricane or Freeze Dry, and squishes the parakeet with Heavy Slam. And even if Articuno drags it on with sub+hurricane confusion, RestTalk is there to crush its hopes of winning by luck. Calcs: 0 Atk Mega Aggron Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 6 YOUR MOM / 0 Def Articuno: 344-408 (106.8 - 126.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 SpA Articuno Hurricane vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Mega Aggron: 60-72 (17.4 - 20.9%) -- possible 5HKO 252 SpA Articuno Freeze Dry vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Mega Aggron: 38-45 (11 - 13.1%) -- possible 8HKO |
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Ability: levitate Evs: 252 sp.attk sp. def 252 attk 4 Nature: mild Earthquake Dragon dance Dragon pulse Sand attack |
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Anyway: Togekiss: http://pldh.net/media/pokemon/gen6/xy-animated/468.gif -Nasty Plot -Dazzling Gleam -Air Slash -Roost Nature: Timid EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe Item: Life Orb Ability: Serene Grace Togekiss is immune to all of Flygon's offensive moves, uses Flygon as setup bait for Nasty Plot, then hits it hard with Dazzling Gleam. |
Yeesh still doing the same thing.... -_- There's a polite way to suggest changes to movesets too mate, and then there's the option of not even saying anything and just playing the game. By the way, I think you can go 252, 252, and 6. Only 2 more, but they're there.
Also oh my god, whoever used Stunfisk up above My hero Anywho togekiss counter. Magnezone. -Flash Cannon -Thunderbolt -Metal Sound -Hidden Power (Grass) Nature: Modest EVs: 252 SAtk/252 HP / 6 Def Item: Wise Glasses Ability: Analytic Magnezone scoffs heartily at anything Togekiss can do, even if it carried thunder wave, magnezone is immune. 60 percent flinch chance on Air Slash is laughable at how many times you'd have to do it to even leave a scratch on magnezone, and Magnezone only needs one hit on a Togekiss lacking bulk investments. Even with Nasty Plots, Togekiss is countered. |
Golurk @ Leftovers
Ability: No Guard EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spe Adamant Nature - Dynamic Punch - Earthquake - Shadow Punch - Ice Punch 252+ SpA Wise Glasses Analytic Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 212 HP / 0 SpD Golurk: 246-291 (66.1 - 78.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ SpA Wise Glasses Analytic Magnezone Hidden Power Grass vs. 212 HP / 0 SpD Golurk: 248-294 (66.6 - 79%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ Atk Golurk Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Magnezone: 612-724 (177.9 - 210.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO Tanks any one hit Magnezone can dish out, outspeeds to KO with EQ. |
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Ability: protean EVs: sp. attk 252 speed 252 attk 5 Nature: Hasty Surf Dark pulse Spikes Substitute |
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Anyway: Sylveon: http://pldh.net/media/pokemon/gen6/xy-animated/700.gif -Hyper Voice -Shadow Ball -Psyshock -Hidden Power (Ground) Nature: Modest EVs: 244 HP/252 SAtk/12 Spe Item: Choice Specs Ability: Pixilate Tanks any one move Greninja throws at it and blasts through Greninja's Sub with Hyper Voice. |
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Ability: anticipation EVs: def 252 attk 252 sp. def 5 Powerwhip Flash cannon Iron defense Ingrain |
LOL flash cannon ferro I'm dying XD
Goodra @ Assault Vest Ability: Sap Sipper EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD Modest Nature - Draco Meteor - Fire Blast - Sludge Bomb - Thunderbolt Power Whip is absorbed via Sap Sipper, Fire Blast undeniably OHKO's, and Ferrothorn's Flash Cannon damage makes its user quit pokemon. 0 SpA Ferrothorn Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 25-31 (6.5 - 8%) -- possibly the worst move ever --------------------------- Also about the "counter" to the mega aggron I posted, I can't help but react: Quote:
4 Atk Flygon Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Filter Mega Aggron: 76-91 (22.1 - 26.5%) -- 20% chance to 4HKO Meanwhile, 0 Atk Mega Aggron Heavy Slam (100 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Flygon: 193-228 (64.1 - 75.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO How is this even called countering? Word of advice, please check via calcs whether the thing you're suggesting is even viable enough to be a counter. |
Salamence @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Ability: Moxie Nature : Jolly ~ Dragon Dance ~ Dragon Claw ~ Earthquake ~ Fire Fang 252 Atk Life Orb Salamence Dragon Claw vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Goodra: 468-554 (122.1 - 144.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO -2 252+ SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Salamence: 252-296 (76.1 - 89.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO Whatever you do, don't switch it in on an incoming Draco Meteor. Easily outspeeds and OHKO's w/ Dragon Claw. Can also easily avenge kill the Goodra and maybe even set up a Dragon Dance if at -2 from a previous Draco Meteor; and getting that +1 attk form the Moxie! |
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Salamence isnt a counter because it cant switch in. A counter is actually able to switch in. :/ Anyway, [email protected] Band 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Def Impish Nature - Crunch - Avalanche - Earthquake - Stone Edge +1 252 Atk Life Orb Salamence Outrage vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Avalugg: 230-270 (58.3 - 68.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery +1 252 Atk Life Orb Salamence Fire Fang vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Avalugg: 166-198 (42.1 - 50.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ Atk Choice Band Avalugg Avalanche vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Salamence: 1444-1704 (436.2 - 514.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO |
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Thank goodness. http://pldh.net/media/pokemon/gen6/xy-animated/594.gif Alomomola @ Leftovers Ability: Regenerator EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk Bold Nature - Wish - Protect - Toxic - Scald Earthquake is a 5hko - and good luck achieving that with regen, wish, and scald :] |
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Galvantula @ Focus Sash Ability: Compound Eyes EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 SpD Timid Nature - Thunder - Volt Switch - Bug Buzz - Sticky Web 4 SpA Alomomola Scald vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Galvantula: 66-78 (23.4 - 27.7%) -- 70.2% chance to 4HKO 252 SpA Galvantula Thunder vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Alomomola: 548-648 (102.6 - 121.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO |
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[email protected] Specs Ability: Magnet Pull EVs: 252 SpA/252 Spd/6 whatever Nature: Modest Moves: Hidden Power Fire, Flash Cannon, Volt Switch, Thunderbolt 252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Hidden Power Fire vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Galvantula: 324-382 (115.3 - 135.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 SpA Galvantula Thunder vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Magnezone: 80-95 (28.4 - 33.8%) -- 0.5% chance to 3HKO Magnezone comfortably takes the Thunders and OHKOs with HP Fire. Bug Buzz does even less (23.4 - 27.7%). |
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Ability: Torrent Moves: Earthquake, Avalanche, Curse, Toxic Nature: Impish EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 Attack 252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Swampert: 117-138 (28.9 - 34.1%) -- 99.6% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery 4 Atk Swampert Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 420-496 (122 - 144.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO Swampert can comfortably switch into Magnezone's flash cannon, and Earthquake it to death on the next turn. |
No Waterfall?
Abomasnow @ Abomasite Trait: Soundproof EVs: 252 Atk / 244 SpA / 12 Spe Mild Nature - Wood Hammer - Blizzard - Earthquake / Focus Miss - Ice Shard 252 Atk Mega Abomasnow Wood Hammer vs. +1 252 HP / 252+ Def Swampert: 408-484 (100.9 - 119.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO +1 4 Atk Swampert Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Abomasnow: 84-99 (26.1 - 30.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO Mega Abomasnow doesn't care about anything Swampert uses, even Curse, and OHKOes with Wood Hammer even at +1. |
Well my Swampert set tends to be a stall defensive set most of the time, which is why I tend to forgo Waterfall when it comes to the fourth move slot. Anyways:
[email protected] Band Nature: Adamant EVs: 252 HP/252 Attack/4 SpDef IVs: 31/31/31/x/31/31 Moveset: Bullet Punch, Bug Bite, Superpower, Pursuit Max HP and Max Special Attack Mega Abomasnow set calculations 252+ SpA Mega Abomasnow Blizzard vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Scizor: 120-141 (34.8 - 40.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after hail damage 252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Bug Bite vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Abomasnow: 464-548 (120.8 - 142.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO Shipper's set calculations 244 Atk Mega Abomasnow Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 110-130 (31.9 - 37.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after hail damage 252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Mega Abomasnow: 344-408 (107.1 - 127.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Bug Bite vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Mega Abomasnow: 518-612 (161.3 - 190.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ Atk Choice Band Scizor Superpower vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Mega Abomasnow: 460-542 (143.3 - 168.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO Scizor easily survives the switch-in on Blizzard or Earthquake, and makes Mega Abomasnow's life a living hell on the next turn by mercilessly OHKOing it with Bug Bite, Bullet Punch, or Superpower. |
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Torkoal @ Leftovers Ability: Shell Armor EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA Bold Nature - Rapid Spin - Lava Plume - Rock Slide - Yawn 252+ Atk Choice Band Scizor Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Torkoal: 123-145 (35.7 - 42.1%) -- 90.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 4 SpA Torkoal Lava Plume vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Scizor: 364-432 (105.8 - 125.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO Ah yeeeeeeeeah. |
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Nature: Bold EVs: 252 HP/240 Def/16 Speed IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31 Moveset: Scald, Knock Off, Rapid Spin, Toxic Spikes 0- Atk Torkoal Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Tentacruel: 40-48 (10.9 - 13.1%) -- possibly the worst move ever 0 SpA Tentacruel Scald vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Torkoal: 192-228 (55.8 - 66.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery Oh wow, Tentacruel can survive the switch-in, wall Torkoal for hours and hours (even when asleep), AND recover almost all of it's HP from Rock Slide damage with its black sludge, while at the same time either knocking off Torkoal's item first or scalding it to death in the two turns after the initial switch-in. |
Toxicroak @ Life Orb
Ability: Dry Skin EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD Adamant Nature - Gunk Shot - Drain Punch - Sucker Punch - Swords Dance Immune to Scald and Toxic Spikes, takes minor damage from Knock Off and Rapid Spin. Can freely set up and kill. |
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calm mind scald psyshock slack off regenerator bold 248 hp 216 def 44 spe should work pretty well against that 4x psychic weakness |
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