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AdamEternal July 24th, 2014 12:04 PM

Prism League Discussion (Previously "Our own Pokemon X/Y League")
 
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Spoiler: Original Message
So me and Polar Spectrum were chatting on Skype. I checked if the forums had an official League of their own. Apparently not. (Because the forums were not active enough.) So me and Polar decided to try our hand at managing our own League! (And hope that the forums are active enough now.) In this thread, I'm asking some questions while we decide how to get this League set up and everything, such as what should the League name be?

Progress

July-24-14
Decided that for now, only people we know or trust to be active, such as friends, will be Gym Leaders, Elites, or Temp Champion.


(This has gotten big. 0.0)
This is the discussion thread for the Prism League! (Currently Beta) If you want the latest info on the League, check out the last few pages!

I brought up the idea with Polar Spectrum, we started it, and this happened. Thank Arceus I brought Polar into this, because I just can not keep the train rolling by myself. Ever.

The Prism of Honor goes to:
Spoiler:
AdamEternal (for grabbing the snow and making a snowball)
Polar Spectrum (for setting the snowball rolling)
Zekrom (for just being fricken helpful all-round)
Cyclone (for helping out)
TGM
Ferraligator
Euphoric
enigma
Cakesu (for making the badges)
Blueboi22
Exile
Krystia
Ultraviolence
Lucky#13

The Prism of Honor was given to people who were active in the early stages.

Cyclone July 24th, 2014 12:06 PM

I'm confused. How would this work?

AdamEternal July 24th, 2014 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclone (Post 8366707)
I'm confused. How would this work?

Well, there would be the classic 8 Gym Leaders, Elite 4, and Champion. As normal, you would have to beat all 8 Gym Leaders before fighting the Elite 4, and you would have to fight the Elite 4 before fighting the Champion. And, as usual, the Gym Leaders and Elite 4 would specify in one type. But me and Polar Spectrum chatted about that, so we decided that you would have to use the same team for all of them. It's going to be tough.

Polar Spectrum July 24th, 2014 12:30 PM

(Bumped up here to hopefully make it more visible to people who don't scroll)

Registered participants for league qualifier tourney:

Antebellum (Showdown, possible X/Y)
Polar Spectrum (X/Y)
TGM (X/Y)
Zekrom (Showdown, possible X/Y)
BlueBoi22 (X/Y, possible Showdown)
BadPokemon (X/Y)
Srinator (Showdown)
Euphoric (Showdown)
Ferraligatr (X/Y)

As it stands now, we have: 4, possibly 5 players competing on Showdown - and 5 potentially 7 on X/Y. This would de facto give all Showdown competitors listed above a spot in the league, and keep only two contenders on X/Y from placing as a leader or elite / champ.



Okay. I am home. Explanation inbound.

First of all, this thread, I think at this stage in the process of organizing a league, should be used for brainstorming, logistics, and suggestions / development only. We can run the league and get challenges going from another thread once we establish how it will work.

The main idea, would be to operate like the anime or main games Pokemon league. Begin challenging gym leaders to acquire badges; and once you've obtained all 8 - challenge the elite 4 and the champion of the region. Since we have to deal with timezones and such, I think going out of order should be acceptable. Because I'd hate to see this idea killed by inactivity of any 1 member, or poor timing / time zones.

That said; I'd like to PROPOSE (as in this is completely open to debate and change by anyone other than myself, because who the f*ck even am I [this kid, who he think he is] to start deliberating things like this) some ground rules.
  • We have 8 gyms.
  • We have 4 Elite Four members.
  • We have 1 standing Champion.
  • We use 6 v 6 battles with X/Y Wifi Normal Ruleset.

And to elaborate, or go a bit more into detail on each of these beasics;

We have 8 gyms. - As in 8 individuals, all different players, each with one unique pokemon type, which every pokemon on their team must be have naturally. The gym leaders may pick the battle format (singles or doubles - no rotation or triples) for their gym, and may NOT use any legendary pokemon. While facing the 8 gym leaders, challengers should keep the same 6 pokemon on their team (to prevent picking 6 hard counters for every gym type, and providing a challenge to both leaders and challengers.) but may change items. (because fairness and fun.) Challengers may have *1* non mascot or event legend (ie; No Mewtwo, Xerneas, Dialga, Darkrai, Genesect, Deoxys) - allowing trio members and non mascots (ie; Gen 1 bird trio, musketeers, D/P lake trio).

We have 4 Elite 4 Members. I'mmmm not sure if, due to numbers, and how many people this may or may not garner right off the bat, if we want to make the Elite 4 different trainers from the gym leaders, or have it where you can be both at once; albeit with different types. Or, if challengers who beat the champion can become the elite four or champion. I don't really think I have an idea which would work better either. So totally open to suggestions on this one. But as far as battles go, same as Gym leaders I would think.

We have one standing Champion. Totally open to opinions on how the champion should work too :v as well as everything really, but especially this since I have no idea what everyone wants on it. But; champion should probably cycle imo.

We use 6 v 6 battles with X/Y Wifi Normal rules set. This basically covers what a lot of people know as tourney / smogon rules. No 2 pokemon with the same dex number, no repeats of items on a team, all that jazz. As I mentioned before, since the leaders are yknow, leaders of gyms, and the challenger is challenging them (durr) the leader picks doubles or singles - ORRRR - for some gyms, we have a leader for singles, and a leader for doubles. (Water gym, TGM and Blue? :D ) Six vs Six because we can have a bit of play through authenticity in it, and normal again, to keep it at level 50. Because I don't think we'll get many challengers if everyone has to level their entire team to level 100.


So yeah, feedback and opinions here?

Nah July 24th, 2014 12:35 PM

I know that this is stated to be an X/Y League, but since Leagues are solely about battling, I thought I'd move this into BTB (hope you don't mind wolf and Zeffy).

Moves.

Anyway, if Polar can get the rules and guidelines up, that'd be a great start. You'll also wanna advertise that this league exists (just do it in a way that doesn't break PC's advertising rule). No one's gonna sign up for positions and you won't get any challengers if people don't know about this. And good luck.

....Maybe I'll join in on this once you guys get the ball rolling.

Polar Spectrum July 24th, 2014 12:47 PM

Thanks for the support and suggestions Zekrom, I'll get on a proper and formal list of ground rules as well as promotion as soon as I can. My phone insists on correcting Pokemon to pigeons and pushpins constantly though; so rather than risk people thinking I'm promoting some weird New York office building version of cockfights- I'll wait the extra hour to use my laptop. :1

Very excited though.

TGM July 24th, 2014 1:24 PM

Ooooh, I might actually have some rules for a pokemon league I tried to start that can give us a place to start, Polar.

Also yeah, I was asked to be a part of this as well.

edit: also I call water gym before blue

Blueboi22 July 24th, 2014 1:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TGM (Post 8366862)
Ooooh, I might actually have some rules for a pokemon league I tried to start that can give us a place to start, Polar.

Also yeah, I was asked to be a part of this as well.

edit: also I call water gym before blue

Lol F.U. man! We're still fighting for it!

((If I lose, I'll take ice instead))

champagnepapi July 24th, 2014 1:40 PM

I cosign this, looks like it could be fun

Cyclone July 24th, 2014 1:51 PM

No one asked me, but I'm still wondering how it would work. Once the initial order is set, do you basically - as a newcomer - battle the low man on the totem pole and try to take over the spot? Meanwhile, others can try to move up the list?

Blueboi22 July 24th, 2014 1:58 PM

I'm guessing that's how it works

Cyclone July 24th, 2014 2:22 PM

So if you want to take over a type, you bring that type of team and challenge that leader? One can take over an E4 spot this way, too?

The Champion is usually not restricted by a type. I would have thought this was a thing where people can challenge everyone in the group, beat them, and be Champion. The idea is that the teams, gyms, etc. are pre-set and not modified.

Polar Spectrum July 24th, 2014 2:44 PM

Okay. I am home. Explanation inbound.

First of all, this thread, I think at this stage in the process of organizing a league, should be used for brainstorming, logistics, and suggestions / development only. We can run the league and get challenges going from another thread once we establish how it will work.

The main idea, would be to operate like the anime or main games Pokemon league. Begin challenging gym leaders to acquire badges; and once you've obtained all 8 - challenge the elite 4 and the champion of the region. Since we have to deal with timezones and such, I think going out of order should be acceptable. Because I'd hate to see this idea killed by inactivity of any 1 member, or poor timing / time zones.

That said; I'd like to PROPOSE (as in this is completely open to debate and change by anyone other than myself, because who the f*ck even am I [this kid, who he think he is] to start deliberating things like this) some ground rules.
  • We have 8 gyms.
  • We have 4 Elite Four members.
  • We have 1 standing Champion.
  • We use 6 v 6 battles with X/Y Wifi Normal Ruleset.

And to elaborate, or go a bit more into detail on each of these beasics;

We have 8 gyms. - As in 8 individuals, all different players, each with one unique pokemon type, which every pokemon on their team must be have naturally. The gym leaders may pick the battle format (singles or doubles - no rotation or triples) for their gym, and may NOT use any legendary pokemon. While facing the 8 gym leaders, challengers should keep the same 6 pokemon on their team (to prevent picking 6 hard counters for every gym type, and providing a challenge to both leaders and challengers.) but may change items. (because fairness and fun.) Challengers may have *1* non mascot or event legend (ie; No Mewtwo, Xerneas, Dialga, Darkrai, Genesect, Deoxys) - allowing trio members and non mascots (ie; Gen 1 bird trio, musketeers, D/P lake trio).

We have 4 Elite 4 Members. I'mmmm not sure if, due to numbers, and how many people this may or may not garner right off the bat, if we want to make the Elite 4 different trainers from the gym leaders, or have it where you can be both at once; albeit with different types. Or, if challengers who beat the champion can become the elite four or champion. I don't really think I have an idea which would work better either. So totally open to suggestions on this one. But as far as battles go, same as Gym leaders I would think.

We have one standing Champion. Totally open to opinions on how the champion should work too :v as well as everything really, but especially this since I have no idea what everyone wants on it. But; champion should probably cycle imo.

We use 6 v 6 battles with X/Y Wifi Normal rules set. This basically covers what a lot of people know as tourney / smogon rules. No 2 pokemon with the same dex number, no repeats of items on a team, all that jazz. As I mentioned before, since the leaders are yknow, leaders of gyms, and the challenger is challenging them (durr) the leader picks doubles or singles - ORRRR - for some gyms, we have a leader for singles, and a leader for doubles. (Water gym, TGM and Blue? :D ) Six vs Six because we can have a bit of play through authenticity in it, and normal again, to keep it at level 50. Because I don't think we'll get many challengers if everyone has to level their entire team to level 100.


So yeah, feedback and opinions here?

MaoMint July 24th, 2014 2:49 PM

I think it sounds good so far (although <//3 for missing tripples but oh wel :''D)
Champion wise... In a way it would be fun if the champion would be whoever beats the elite 4 and remains the champion until beaten by another who will then replace him. But that might be a risky business as the champion might become inactive or so. :(

Polar Spectrum July 24th, 2014 2:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Larinelle (Post 8367003)
I think it sounds good so far (although <//3 for missing tripples but oh wel :''D)
Champion wise... In a way it would be fun if the champion would be whoever beats the elite 4 and remains the champion until beaten by another who will then replace him. But that might be a risky business as the champion might become inactive or so. :(


xD I'm sorry - I didn't know you liked triples! Or anyone :x I was under the impression it was the one no one played - but hey, if you wanna do triples, and if enough people do - I could deal with it :3

my gym if I become a leader will so be doubles only huehuehuehue

S T O F July 24th, 2014 3:00 PM

Don't really get what you are explaining

TGM July 24th, 2014 3:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8366993)
[*]We have 8 gyms.

Okay, to reiterate on this, do the pokemon used in this type-exclusive gym have to have the type of the gym as their main type or can it be a secondary typing? Also I approve of no gym leaders using legendaries, since none in the games used any.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8366993)
[*]We have 4 Elite Four members.

It depends on how many people we have. If we have eight people then yeah we may need to create some shared position with the elite four members. How that's gonna be worked out though, I have nooo idea.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8366993)
[*]We have 1 standing Champion.

Okay, so what if the champion suddenly becomes inactive and how do we determine who the champion is? Can he/she have other places like gyms or elite four spots, or can he/she only have the champion spot?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8366993)
[*]We use 6 v 6 battles with X/Y Wifi Normal Ruleset.

iiii am fine with all of that, though if we want to have two gym leaders (one for double and one for singles) will be up to everyone else.

Blueboi22 July 24th, 2014 3:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8366993)
for some gyms, we have a leader for singles, and a leader for doubles. (Water gym, TGM and Blue? :D )

I'm okay with this if Teejee is

Nah July 24th, 2014 3:03 PM

I agree that this thread should be used to develop the league and gather/formulate ideas. A neat and organized thread can be made once everything is straightened out.

I think that the Gym Leaders is easy enough, though we have to make sure that these people will be active; some past leagues have fallen apart because some of the gym leaders were really inactive and so people couldn't get all the badges and lost interest. But how are the Elite 4 and Champion to be decided? In the games, the E4 and Champion are stronger than the Gym Leaders. Would we hold a set of battles to decide who can be in those spots, or will we just put in whoever wants the positions?

Speaking of the Champion, I think it'd be best to not have the person who defeats all the Gym Leaders, E4, and Champion become the new champ, just in case it ends up being someone who's not a terribly active battler after they win. Having active league members is important, imo.

As for personnel, we need a total of 13 people, and we appear to have 8 people willing to become Gym Leaders/E4/Champion atm: Cyclone, Blueboi, Antebellum, TGM, Ultraviolence, myself, Polar and Adam. So we need a few more....

And one other thing: Can we please not have Item Clause? I really hate Item Clause.

Polar Spectrum July 24th, 2014 3:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TGM (Post 8367026)
Okay, so what if the champion suddenly becomes inactive and how do we determine who the champion is? Can he/she have other places like gyms or elite four spots, or can he only have the champion spot?

iiii am fine with all of that, though if we want to have two gym leaders (one for double and one for singles) will be up to everyone else.

Mmm - I had considered that, and I amended the OP to mention something about that, but to go further into detail. We should - for the health and longevity of this idea, have rules in place that dictate the lifespan of Champions and Gym Leader's positions if any question of their activity is brought to light. I think establishing a time period, maybe one week, maybe one month, to designate as the maximum amount they can leave their role unfulfilled before having a new player replace them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zekrom (Post 8367034)
I agree that this thread should be used to develop the league and gather/formulate ideas. A neat and organized thread can be made once everything is straightened out.

I think that the Gym Leaders is easy enough, though we have to make sure that these people will be active; some past leagues have fallen apart because some of the gym leaders were really inactive and so people couldn't get all the badges and lost interest. But how are the Elite 4 and Champion to be decided? In the games, the E4 and Champion are stronger than the Gym Leaders. Would we hold a set of battles to decide who can be in those spots, or will we just put in whoever wants the positions?

Speaking of the Champion, I think it'd be best to not have the person who defeats all the Gym Leaders, E4, and Champion become the new champ, just in case it ends up being someone who's not a terribly active battler after they win. Having active league members is important, imo.

As for personnel, we need a total of 13 people, and we appear to have 8 people willing to become Gym Leaders/E4/Champion atm: Cyclone, Blueboi, Antebellum, TGM, Ultraviolence, myself, Polar and Adam. So we need a few more....

And one other thing: Can we please not have Item Clause? I really hate Item Clause.

The activity question I think we can come up with a pretty viable solution to, as I mentioned above - although I have no idea how to devise an Elite 4 vs Leaders system. .-. If anyone has an idea.. I'm all ears. The series of battles could work, I'd be down. It would be an endeavor, but it would hopefully also provide a foreword on who's active and dedicated enough to bank on keeping this alive. Starting off though? Ummm, probably use the battles, maybe just delegate a few positions. Because really, battle prowess may sometimes be disproportionate to reliability here - and we have a greater need for people who'll be around, than just the best muthaf***'s on the site. After all it's not a YOLOSWAG420NOSKOPE 1337 SKILLS tournament, it'd be more of a community thing that will HOPEFULLY be challenging too. (at least in my head ;-; I hope it doesn't get too serious and competitive)

On those members you mentioned; yes yes yes - I'm in personal communication on and off the forum with at least 4 of those people, so I can definitely harass- I mean, check up on them to maintain activity and ensure it stays alive. Although we'd probably all have to be in contact through at least 1 other form than this thread once we set it up and start taking challengers. Perhaps using the battle chat on the site regularly- orrr skype.

OH - and item clause - I ammm biased on that xD so let's NOT listen to me, and take a vote or something lol.

MaoMint July 24th, 2014 3:22 PM

Perhaps the E4 could have access to certain Pokémon which the gym leaders may not use?
Say perhaps things such as mega evolutions or there could be a selection of OU's which only the E4 may use whilest gym leaders get certain limits. Just that perhaps a selection of certain OUs are off limits for the gyms?

Nah July 24th, 2014 3:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8367049)
Mmm - I had considered that, and I amended the OP to mention something about that, but to go further into detail. We should - for the health and longevity of this idea, have rules in place that dictate the lifespan of Champions and Gym Leader's positions if any question of their activity is brought to light. I think establishing a time period, maybe one week, maybe one month, to designate as the maximum amount they can leave their role unfulfilled before having a new player replace them.

That's probably not a bad idea. I'm sure that there will be someone to fill the slot of a league member who's not active enough.



Quote:

The activity question I think we can come up with a pretty viable solution to, as I mentioned above - although I have no idea how to devise an Elite 4 vs Leaders system. .-. If anyone has an idea.. I'm all ears. The series of battles could work, I'd be down. It would be an endeavor, but it would hopefully also provide a foreword on who's active and dedicated enough to bank on keeping this alive. Starting off though? Ummm, probably use the battles, maybe just delegate a few positions. Because really, battle prowess may sometimes be disproportionate to reliability here - and we have a greater need for people who'll be around, than just the best muthaf***'s on the site. After all it's not a YOLOSWAG420NOSKOPE 1337 SKILLS tournament, it'd be more of a community thing that will HOPEFULLY be challenging too. (at least in my head ;-; I hope it doesn't get too serious and competitive)

On those members you mentioned; yes yes yes - I'm in personal communication on and off the forum with at least 4 of those people, so I can definitely harass- I mean, check up on them to maintain activity and ensure it stays alive. Although we'd probably all have to be in contact through at least 1 other form than this thread once we set it up and start taking challengers. Perhaps using the battle chat on the site regularly- orrr skype.

OH - and item clause - I ammm biased on that xD so let's NOT listen to me, and take a vote or something lol.
Yeah, I guess we don't need to be super serious about who gets what position; that might not be so fun. I'd be up for contact on the battle server rather than Skype though.

And something I thought of, are the battles going to be done with cartridges and 3DSs, or on the battle server?

TGM July 24th, 2014 3:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zekrom (Post 8367058)
That's probably not a bad idea. I'm sure that there will be someone to fill the slot of a league member who's not active enough.




Yeah, I guess we don't need to be super serious about who gets what position; that might not be so fun. I'd be up for contact on the battle server rather than Skype though.

And something I thought of, are the battles going to be done with cartridges and 3DSs, or on the battle server?

I don't mean to speak for everyone here but probably the cartridges and 3DS's, I know at least Polar and I do not enjoy using Pokemon Showdown. :x

Polar Spectrum July 24th, 2014 3:38 PM

Oh shoot. Yeah, that's why I think it was originally in X/Y - I was talking exclusively on cartridge, since I for once can't use Showdown, PO, and other sims.

Nah July 24th, 2014 3:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8367082)
Oh shoot. Yeah, that's why I think it was originally in X/Y - I was talking exclusively on cartridge, since I for once can't use Showdown, PO, and other sims.

Right, right, I forgot about that bit. Cartridges and 3DSs is fine by me. I'm fine with either option really.

Blueboi22 July 24th, 2014 3:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TGM (Post 8367069)
I don't mean to speak for everyone here but probably the cartridges and 3DS's, I know at least Polar and I do not enjoy using Pokemon Showdown. :x

I'm not a fan of showdown either. Not sure why. It just doesn't feel...right. I wouldn't wanna lose people over this though so for the sake of the league I'm willing to do showdown battles with anyone who's incapable of putting together a team on their 3DS or anyone who doesn't have X/Y

champagnepapi July 24th, 2014 3:48 PM

Its not that hard to breed 5iv pokes in the games but I guess it can be a bit tedious, same with team preview only being shown once, but I'm fine with both. Also is the league using smogon tiers?

Blueboi22 July 24th, 2014 3:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Antebellum (Post 8367098)
is the league using smogon tiers?

I'd prefer we didn't. But that's only because I don't care for smogon or VGC rules

Polar Spectrum July 24th, 2014 4:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zekrom (Post 8367091)
Right, right, I forgot about that bit. Cartridges and 3DSs is fine by me. I'm fine with either option really.

Oh thank god, I didn't know which you played on. :x

We're gonna alienate people sticking to either one individually though; so it may be best to do mixed... although we'd require a considerably larger amount of participants, essentially doubling the personnel on board to have a cartridge and sim league :I So I think - we maaaay just wanna stick to one after all.

Besides, if we keep it from being an extremely competitive master skill level league, we can probably buff the number of participants by getting people who aren't necessarily so into competitive as to have full teams of 5 IV mons (which I agree, really aren't that hard to get now with destiny knot) bred for competitive. There's not really a point to non-competive sims though, since you can pretty much just generate anything with a few clicks - so I think cartridge is a good choice. :3

BadPokemon July 24th, 2014 4:58 PM

I met as well put out my opinion. I really like the idea, but I think the champion should be decided like this:

We have a mini tournament between the well-respected battlers (top 5) of our community, and the winner gets to be champion. The other four are the elite four. The regular gyms are for anyone. I would personally like it on the regular game cartridges to give it the "facing the gym" feeling.

srinator July 24th, 2014 7:16 PM

This seems fun, but I have one question since I read about breeding and things, can't this be done on the sim? I don't have any of the games so :/

Polar Spectrum July 24th, 2014 8:21 PM

It seems like everyone has really good reasons both ways - sooo, maybe both is the answer :1 If we do, maybe we just trim down the number of gyms for each section? At least until there's a strong need to increase it. :x Let's say we split it right down the middle, 4 gyms on cartridge, 4 gyms on sims - then 2 elite four on cartridge; 2 on sims - with one champion for each? And I'm not suggesting that you have to play both in order to go through the league; by keeping the numbers smaller at first - we run a lower risk of too much to do or too many people to coordinate battles with deterring people from participating. Whaddyou guys think?

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Originally Posted by BadPokemon (Post 8367160)
We have a mini tournament between the well-respected battlers (top 5) of our community, and the winner gets to be champion. The other four are the elite four. The regular gyms are for anyone. I would personally like it on the regular game cartridges to give it the "facing the gym" feeling.

Mmm, two things - one, how would we decide the most well respected / top 5? xD Nobody here knows for example if I'm sh*t or legit at pokemon, I think we should do it by tournament amongst volunteers. That way whomever wins; we at least know they're willing and interested to uphold the position. Secondly - I wholeheartedly agree with you on the facing the gym feel on cartridge. You just can't get more authentic than the original source material. And there's no denying the battles are more personal, cinematic, and intense. (opinionsopinionsopinioins)

Quote:

Originally Posted by srinator (Post 8367333)
This seems fun, but I have one question since I read about breeding and things, can't this be done on the sim? I don't have any of the games so :/

While I don't sympathize with you not wanting to breed (it's so easy now mate! :P ) I do feel where you're coming from. And you're definitely not the only one. We should have a league set up for sim battles too. It pains me to admit, but the sim players might just be the majority in fact.



Anywho yeah - anybody else feelin' the splitting the league between the two mediums idea? I think it could work; if things get too busy or it turns out to be a success, we could move up to a full 2 separate leagues, one completely independent on sims, and one completely independent on cartridge. Starting off right now though, 4 gyms, 2 elite members and a champion battle seems like a nice pace to start on for me. ^^ I can volunteer to handle the cartridge half (IF - we go down this path) but someone more personally invested and experienced than myself should prrrobably be the sim league commissioner.

Cyclone July 24th, 2014 8:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8366993)
We have 8 gyms. - As in 8 individuals, all different players, each with one unique pokemon type, which every pokemon on their team must be have naturally. The gym leaders may pick the battle format (singles or doubles - no rotation or triples) for their gym, and may NOT use any legendary pokemon. While facing the 8 gym leaders, challengers should keep the same 6 pokemon on their team (to prevent picking 6 hard counters for every gym type, and providing a challenge to both leaders and challengers.) but may change items. (because fairness and fun.) Challengers may have *1* non mascot or event legend (ie; No Mewtwo, Xerneas, Dialga, Darkrai, Genesect, Deoxys) - allowing trio members and non mascots (ie; Gen 1 bird trio, musketeers, D/P lake trio).

I disagree. Allow a single Gym to have triple battles, and another to have Rotation battles. It challenges especially anyone challenging that Gym and provides a unique experience. It should be pre-determined which one TYPE would be best for each format and mandate that Gym use it.

Gym Leaders, technically, can be promoted to Elite Four (it's happened before), and we might have to do a graduating format. Have an initial tournament between the various "leaders" and their Gym teams; the best ones get to Elite Four status. The Champion can start out as the winner of the tournament, and that winner can have a team including a wider mix - but ONLY the Champion. There can also be NO Champion to start, and the first to conquer the Elite Four assumes the role; anyone else coming in can dethrone the Champion. The question is whether the Champion would move down, or can the Elite Four ever challenge the Champion with a non-typed team and the winner move up? The entire idea of Gym Leaders moving up and down is the thing I can't wrap my head around as, since Gym Leaders usually live in their towns, I can't see one leaving and then returning a week later after being demoted again. That would be silly. Gym Leaders can perhaps be allowed to challenge once every three or four months, and a defeated Elite Four member assume leadership of the Gym (same type or different); any losing "leader" in such a battle remains a Gym Leader.

I don't know why this is exciting me; I'm not even into the competitive thing. But if I were to serve as a leader and not necessarily challenge the entire league myself, that might be sufficient for me as it would give me the chance to meet the most challengers (and I am not the best battler). My only issue is my nearly full 3DS friend list; I'll have to axe people to take part.

And then there's another question: level restrictions. If every Gym Leader is Lv.100 or all battles are set to Lv.50, it takes away the aspect of being better than the Gym Leader at the outset. Also, if participants can change their team for each Leader, then every Leader is virtually doomed to failure. I presume participants will use the same team throughout the challenge and start with a new team if they want to change?

srinator July 24th, 2014 8:48 PM

Breeding is not the problem lol, I don't have a Nintendo handheld/console, that's the main problem

champagnepapi July 24th, 2014 8:53 PM

I really think we need to decide if this will be on wifi or simulators with a clear cut vote

Also i dont think the league should start out with a champ, its more rewarding to become champion by conquering the league and promotes more people to challenge to see who can be champ first

Polar Spectrum July 24th, 2014 8:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyclone (Post 8367403)
I disagree. Allow a single Gym to have triple battles, and another to have Rotation battles. It challenges especially anyone challenging that Gym and provides a unique experience. It should be pre-determined which one TYPE would be best for each format and mandate that Gym use it.

Gym Leaders, technically, can be promoted to Elite Four (it's happened before), and we might have to do a graduating format. Have an initial tournament between the various "leaders" and their Gym teams; the best ones get to Elite Four status. The Champion can start out as the winner of the tournament, and that winner can have a team including a wider mix - but ONLY the Champion. There can also be NO Champion to start, and the first to conquer the Elite Four assumes the role; anyone else coming in can dethrone the Champion. The question is whether the Champion would move down, or can the Elite Four ever challenge the Champion with a non-typed team and the winner move up? The entire idea of Gym Leaders moving up and down is the thing I can't wrap my head around as, since Gym Leaders usually live in their towns, I can't see one leaving and then returning a week later after being demoted again. That would be silly. Gym Leaders can perhaps be allowed to challenge once every three or four months, and a defeated Elite Four member assume leadership of the Gym (same type or different); any losing "leader" in such a battle remains a Gym Leader.

I don't know why this is exciting me; I'm not even into the competitive thing. But if I were to serve as a leader and not necessarily challenge the entire league myself, that might be sufficient for me as it would give me the chance to meet the most challengers (and I am not the best battler). My only issue is my nearly full 3DS friend list; I'll have to axe people to take part.

And then there's another question: level restrictions. If every Gym Leader is Lv.100 or all battles are set to Lv.50, it takes away the aspect of being better than the Gym Leader at the outset. Also, if participants can change their team for each Leader, then every Leader is virtually doomed to failure. I presume participants will use the same team throughout the challenge and start with a new team if they want to change?

M'kay, m'kay - I can kinda feel you on the triples and multis, I'm always a fan of mixing it up. Can a mod or Adam, should he see this tomorrow - change the poll of the thread to "Should a triple battle or rotation battle gym be allowed?" if that's possible? I'm kinda losing reluctance to the idea, but I'd like to know if others are fine with it too.

I hadn't ever considered starting out with a champion, but you know - that also poses another question. In the interest of non-exculsiveness, should we allow Gym leaders to also be challengers? Obviously, with another opponent filling in for their own gym's match, but that could act as our Champion-picker or Elite Four picker in the interim of not having those set up. And, it would keep things going instead of just waiting for people to come and take a shot at us. :P

I think just about everything else in your post I addressed here though -
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Okay. I am home. Explanation inbound.

First of all, this thread, I think at this stage in the process of organizing a league, should be used for brainstorming, logistics, and suggestions / development only. We can run the league and get challenges going from another thread once we establish how it will work.

The main idea, would be to operate like the anime or main games Pokemon league. Begin challenging gym leaders to acquire badges; and once you've obtained all 8 - challenge the elite 4 and the champion of the region. Since we have to deal with timezones and such, I think going out of order should be acceptable. Because I'd hate to see this idea killed by inactivity of any 1 member, or poor timing / time zones.

That said; I'd like to PROPOSE (as in this is completely open to debate and change by anyone other than myself, because who the f*ck even am I [this kid, who he think he is] to start deliberating things like this) some ground rules.
We have 8 gyms.
We have 4 Elite Four members.
We have 1 standing Champion.
We use 6 v 6 battles with X/Y Wifi Normal Ruleset.

And to elaborate, or go a bit more into detail on each of these beasics;

We have 8 gyms. - As in 8 individuals, all different players, each with one unique pokemon type, which every pokemon on their team must be have naturally. The gym leaders may pick the battle format (singles or doubles - no rotation or triples) for their gym, and may NOT use any legendary pokemon. While facing the 8 gym leaders, challengers should keep the same 6 pokemon on their team (to prevent picking 6 hard counters for every gym type, and providing a challenge to both leaders and challengers.) but may change items. (because fairness and fun.) Challengers may have *1* non mascot or event legend (ie; No Mewtwo, Xerneas, Dialga, Darkrai, Genesect, Deoxys) - allowing trio members and non mascots (ie; Gen 1 bird trio, musketeers, D/P lake trio).

We have 4 Elite 4 Members. I'mmmm not sure if, due to numbers, and how many people this may or may not garner right off the bat, if we want to make the Elite 4 different trainers from the gym leaders, or have it where you can be both at once; albeit with different types. Or, if challengers who beat the champion can become the elite four or champion. I don't really think I have an idea which would work better either. So totally open to suggestions on this one. But as far as battles go, same as Gym leaders I would think.

We have one standing Champion. Totally open to opinions on how the champion should work too :v as well as everything really, but especially this since I have no idea what everyone wants on it. But; champion should probably cycle imo.

We use 6 v 6 battles with X/Y Wifi Normal rules set. This basically covers what a lot of people know as tourney / smogon rules. No 2 pokemon with the same dex number, no repeats of items on a team, all that jazz. As I mentioned before, since the leaders are yknow, leaders of gyms, and the challenger is challenging them (durr) the leader picks doubles or singles - ORRRR - for some gyms, we have a leader for singles, and a leader for doubles. (Water gym, TGM and Blue? :D ) Six vs Six because we can have a bit of play through authenticity in it, and normal again, to keep it at level 50. Because I don't think we'll get many challengers if everyone has to level their entire team to level 100.


So yeah, feedback and opinions here?


Everyone set to level 50, to prevent level mismatches and forced level 100 grinds, and challengers keeping one team throughout at leeeeast the 8 gym matches, if not the whole endeavor - would be my suggestion for the process.


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Originally Posted by Antebellum (Post 8367424)
I really think we need to decide if this will be on wifi or simulators with a clear cut vote


I'm worried we'll exclude too many potential participants that way :/ Such as, if it ends up being on sims - I literally cannot participate. It's failed twice to instal on my laptop, which is at the dying state of literally failing to load high res images. And anyone without a 3ds such as srinator, should it go the other way - would not be likely to cough up the 160 bucks or so. :c

If we don't do it mixed, maybe we should at least split this into two separate events, one league for cartridge players, and one for sim players. If we can't mix the two that is, just having a requirement of 4 badges for whichever medium you use in the same league.

JustJeff July 24th, 2014 9:01 PM

Well considering I came from another Forums, we do have something like this.
Its called the "Bulbagarden Battle League" http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f518/bulbagarden-battle-league-season-2-open-166555/
It pretty much explains every thing about it. Substitutes, Rules, the Elite 4 and such.
I think if your going to make a League, I think the thread could help a lot.

Zeffy July 24th, 2014 9:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8367425)
I'm worried we'll exclude too many potential participants that way :/ Such as, if it ends up being on sims - I literally cannot participate.

Note that not all simulators need to be installed. Pokemon Showdown! (the most recent and most popular one, I think) can be played on your browser. That's not really restricting since everyone has a browser. PC has its own Pokemon Showdown! server as well, and several unofficial leagues has been set up in there. If this pushes through, we can provide you your own room in there, too. More info on PC's Battle Server can be read here.

Honestly, I really think using Pokemon Showdown! is the best way to go for any league type things. You can battle outside of Smogon tiers as well anyway (there's a mode called custom game). Not everyone can afford a 3DS after all, and simulators are free. You could also do both, essentially widening the availability of battles.

Polar Spectrum July 24th, 2014 9:21 PM

Hmmm, y'know I like some of those, and I don't like some of those. They are specifically geared towards the sims though, which is not very conducive to developing the best format for cartridge players as well :1 But how about we give this thread some time, maybe a day at least - to allow feedback (hopefully) from some of those 9 or 10 people who voted in the poll?

And erm. Maybe set a goal for starting this up - so we don't end up just talking and debating about it for a whole week, then having no one still interested by the time it finally launches? :P

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Originally Posted by Zeffy (Post 8367444)
Note that not all simulators need to be installed. Pokemon Showdown! (the most recent and most popular one, I think) can be played on your browser. That's not really restricting since everyone has a browser. PC has its own Pokemon Showdown! server as well, and several unofficial leagues has been set up in there. If this pushes through, we can provide you your own room in there, too. More info on PC's Battle Server can be read here.

Honestly, I really think using Pokemon Showdown! is the best way to go for any league type things. You can battle outside of Smogon tiers as well anyway (there's a mode called custom game). Not everyone can afford a 3DS after all, and simulators are free. You could also do both, essentially widening the availability of battles.

Oo, why thank you for that. I'll investigate tonight to see if I can use Showdown after all. :D However I just personally, far prefer playing on Wifi with my own DS, my own game, and my own pokemon I've bred and trained to any simulator. It may sound dumb, or even ignorant and stubborn, I know - but I just do. It's a personal preference I've maintained for a long long time, and I'm just not very fond of showdown or PO to begin with. The custom game bit does sound more appealing to meh (Triple battle wailords - everyone metronome huehuehuehue) - and I appreciate the situations of people who can't or don't want to buy 2/3DS systems just as much as I don't expect people to harangue me to use Showdown. ^^ As long as there are other people looking to play on the X/Y actual games, I will jump in with that crowd and hoooopefully soon here, set up what we can to join 'em all in a good 'n fun league to challenge.

TGM July 24th, 2014 9:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeffy (Post 8367444)
Note that not all simulators need to be installed. Pokemon Showdown! (the most recent and most popular one, I think) can be played on your browser. That's not really restricting since everyone has a browser. PC has its own Pokemon Showdown! server as well, and several unofficial leagues has been set up in there. If this pushes through, we can provide you your own room in there, too. More info on PC's Battle Server can be read here.

Honestly, I really think using Pokemon Showdown! is the best way to go for any league type things. You can battle outside of Smogon tiers as well anyway (there's a mode called custom game). Not everyone can afford a 3DS after all, and simulators are free. You could also do both, essentially widening the availability of battles.

I pretty much share Dash's opinion, sims aren't for me. I prefer to use the pokemon that I worked hard to breed and train.

Not hating on sim users btw, use what you like and to each his own and all that. I know it may sound ignorant and such, but it just simply isn't something that I am interested in doing.

#DickBats July 24th, 2014 10:37 PM

I think pokemon simulators are the way to go. Even though I prefer to play in my 3ds and I hate simulators but its just preference.Everyone in the forum has a PC(I assume) but not everyone has a 3DS. Just my humble opinion :). Oh and i'm active most of the time but i'm not a good battler. So yeah, looking foward to "tryhard" the league

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 4:11 AM

I'm hearing a lot more sims over games - but boy could we sure use that poll up there being changed xD

Dangit I shoulda made the thread hahah.

Nah July 25th, 2014 4:28 AM

I'm thinking that, initially at least, we should do the split Showdown/3DS thing, since it seems we can't really get a consensus on this, and some of the challengers may have a preference for how they do the battles as well. Yeah, you'll only have to get 4 badges to challenge the E4 (or E2, rather), but that's the way its gonna have to go. Especially since we still don't have enough people for all the positions, and so to get enough people for all the spots, we need to have both options available (what with Polar's laptop dying and sri not having a 3DS, etc)

Cyclone July 25th, 2014 5:23 AM

You know what? I like the idea of simulators for this. If there are 25 challengers, that's 25 people to add to a 3DS for every leader - and some might not have room for all of these friends or want the hassle of deleting everyone afterwards.

TGM July 25th, 2014 7:04 AM

Euuuurghhhhh

Mayhaps we should to the split thing, one for sims and one for 3DS :x

BadPokemon July 25th, 2014 7:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8367395)
It seems like everyone has really good reasons both ways - sooo, maybe both is the answer :1 If we do, maybe we just trim down the number of gyms for each section? At least until there's a strong need to increase it. :x Let's say we split it right down the middle, 4 gyms on cartridge, 4 gyms on sims - then 2 elite four on cartridge; 2 on sims - with one champion for each? And I'm not suggesting that you have to play both in order to go through the league; by keeping the numbers smaller at first - we run a lower risk of too much to do or too many people to coordinate battles with deterring people from participating. Whaddyou guys think?



Mmm, two things - one, how would we decide the most well respected / top 5? xD Nobody here knows for example if I'm sh*t or legit at pokemon, I think we should do it by tournament amongst volunteers. That way whomever wins; we at least know they're willing and interested to uphold the position. Secondly - I wholeheartedly agree with you on the facing the gym feel on cartridge. You just can't get more authentic than the original source material. And there's no denying the battles are more personal, cinematic, and intense. (opinionsopinionsopinioins)



While I don't sympathize with you not wanting to breed (it's so easy now mate! :P ) I do feel where you're coming from. And you're definitely not the only one. We should have a league set up for sim battles too. It pains me to admit, but the sim players might just be the majority in fact.



Anywho yeah - anybody else feelin' the splitting the league between the two mediums idea? I think it could work; if things get too busy or it turns out to be a success, we could move up to a full 2 separate leagues, one completely independent on sims, and one completely independent on cartridge. Starting off right now though, 4 gyms, 2 elite members and a champion battle seems like a nice pace to start on for me. ^^ I can volunteer to handle the cartridge half (IF - we go down this path) but someone more personally invested and experienced than myself should prrrobably be the sim league commissioner.

Showdown IS easier to hold tournaments and such because you don't have to trade FC's and stuff. But, it may not be fair for something like this because some people don't play emulators. However, it takes like a minute to set up an account (you don't even need an email). A tournament is a great idea. But, what about the other spots? The next top 4 in the tourney get the elite spots? Or do we have a single champion, 2 elites, and 4 gym leaders. That would make it a lot easier, but to make up for the lack of battles, we have the league "reset" with new people every 2 months or so.

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 7:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Zekrom (Post 8367955)
I'm thinking that, initially at least, we should do the split Showdown/3DS thing, since it seems we can't really get a consensus on this, and some of the challengers may have a preference for how they do the battles as well. Yeah, you'll only have to get 4 badges to challenge the E4 (or E2, rather), but that's the way its gonna have to go. Especially since we still don't have enough people for all the positions, and so to get enough people for all the spots, we need to have both options available (what with Polar's laptop dying and sri not having a 3DS, etc)

Thank you, and I agree. I'm really thinking that will work best based on the fact that we won't have to exclude anybody, we don't know how many people we'll have to fill roles within the league, or how many challengers it will recieve and how often. For a trial run, I can't see a better way to test the water than this.

Moving on - I would be terrible at working with the showdown half of this for obvious reasons hahah. Anyone want to volunteer to, handle- that half the league?


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Originally Posted by BadPokemon (Post 8368195)
Showdown IS easier to hold tournaments and such because you don't have to trade FC's and stuff. But, it may not be fair for something like this because some people don't play emulators. However, it takes like a minute to set up an account (you don't even need an email). A tournament is a great idea. But, what about the other spots? The next top 4 in the tourney get the elite spots? Or do we have a single champion, 2 elites, and 4 gym leaders. That would make it a lot easier, but to make up for the lack of battles, we have the league "reset" with new people every 2 months or so.

Those are both great ideas Bad :3 (sounds silly with your name in there lel) hopefully keeping the positions volatile would mean the more active players would he kept in the seats of the leaders and elites.

And yes; I was suggesting at least to start off, showdown have 4 dedicated leaders, 2 elites, and 1 champion - and X/Y have the same.

champagnepapi July 25th, 2014 7:58 AM

Whatever everyone decides i think the best thing you can do for the league is recruit other people.

BadPokemon July 25th, 2014 8:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8368199)
Thank you, and I agree. I'm really thinking that will work best based on the fact that we won't have to exclude anybody, we don't know how many people we'll have to fill roles within the league, or how many challengers it will recieve and how often. For a trial run, I can't see a better way to test the water than this.

Moving on - I would be terrible at working with the showdown half of this for obvious reasons hahah. Anyone want to volunteer to, handle- that half the league?




Those are both great ideas Bad :3 (sounds silly with your name in there lel) hopefully keeping the positions volatile would mean the more active players would he kept in the seats of the leaders and elites.

And yes; I was suggesting at least to start off, showdown have 4 dedicated leaders, 2 elites, and 1 champion - and X/Y have the same.

Thanks! I usually use "Bad" in my usernames. I figured, this is a pokemon forum, so I'll be BadPokemon. I actually like it a lot. I think this league would be a great way to hone our battling skills. Making the positions volatile lets the not as good players get better and have a goal of being gym leader or something. Maybe, the battles could be held on both emulators and game cartridges for convenience (I would use cartridge).

I think it would be fun, a great learning experience, and we can make friends. We could have prizes for being the champion such as iv bred pokemon and items.

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 9:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Antebellum (Post 8368278)
Whatever everyone decides i think the best thing you can do for the league is recruit other people.

True. I suppose when I get home from work I'll go recruit hunting.

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Originally Posted by BadPokemon (Post 8368328)
Thanks! I usually use "Bad" in my usernames. I figured, this is a pokemon forum, so I'll be BadPokemon. I actually like it a lot. I think this league would be a great way to hone our battling skills. Making the positions volatile lets the not as good players get better and have a goal of being gym leader or something. Maybe, the battles could be held on both emulators and game cartridges for convenience (I would use cartridge).

I think it would be fun, a great learning experience, and we can make friends. We could have prizes for being the champion such as iv bred pokemon and items.

I concur. I'm hoping that while we have tournaments and other mediums around here for 100% competitive play (what an oxymoronical statement that is- 'competitive play') I'm hoping the league will maybe be 55/45 on "for fun/competitive."

BadPokemon July 25th, 2014 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8368415)
True. I suppose when I get home from work I'll go recruit hunting.



I concur. I'm hoping that while we have tournaments and other mediums around here for 100% competitive play (what an oxymoronical statement that is- 'competitive play') I'm hoping the league will maybe be 55/45 on "for fun/competitive."

I like the idea because it is fun. Would you say it is more casual? I look forward to (assuming it succeeds) talking about how so and so's gym and hard. "How can I beat him/her?" It sparks up conversation- almost like the real game.

AdamEternal July 25th, 2014 10:30 AM

Holy Arceus, I'm gone for the rest of the day (have no choice), and I come back to this. THIS is why Polar Spectrum should be taking charge! I'll chat with Polar to get information. This is too much to handle. 0.0

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 2:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BadPokemon (Post 8368453)
I like the idea because it is fun. Would you say it is more casual? I look forward to (assuming it succeeds) talking about how so and so's gym and hard. "How can I beat him/her?" It sparks up conversation- almost like the real game.

All my yes. ^^ I don't mean 100% casual as in you can beat it with your first playthrough team - because the gym leaders will be challenging, and the champion will be the best amongst us, with a competitive team at his / her disposal. But I personally, don't want it to be 30 turns of switching Azumarills and Garchomps in and out of stealth rocks. Because seriously. There is NO instance of that, anywhere in any of the games, between gym leaders or elite 4, without going against other human opponents. I think if we just get the right spirt amongst the gym leaders, and keep sportsmanship and communication in our focus we should be alright. (not saying those pokemon, or things like entry hazards shouldn't be allowed. Just that we should be mindful about keeping a smidge of authenticity wedged between our pokeballs with this.)

Also - on what you said about the authentic gym leader / league feel- I think it's a great idea to discuss both challenger and leader teams openly. Helping each other out, suggesting tweaks to pokemon and team builds could really help some people step up their game. Maybe even get someone through the league who wouldn't have on their own, or had attempted to previously. And as long as the gym leaders are locked into one typing, their teams should be somewhat possible to document and share amongst challengers.

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Originally Posted by AdamEternal (Post 8368469)
Holy Arceus, I'm gone for the rest of the day (have no choice), and I come back to this. THIS is why Polar Spectrum should be taking charge! I'll chat with Polar to get information. This is too much to handle. 0.0

Hah - I wouldn't say I should be 'in charge'. I'm eager to help push this, since I love the idea and wanna participate though. :P And you haven't missed that much, only 3 pages or so. : , Primary issue right now is discussing logistics. Sim vs Games and all that.

Anywhoooo.


This weekend may be a good chance to spearhead getting this started. I'm gonna send out some PM and VM's right now, to hopefully get someone to involve themselves heavily with the Showdown half of the league. Volunteers would be great too though : , I know a lot of people in the thread already said they're backing the idea, but is anyone willing to take a spot helping to organize dat sim half?

Euphoric July 25th, 2014 2:52 PM

I'd be interested in participating. Definitely prefer Showdown, though, don't have a great ingame team.

BadPokemon July 25th, 2014 3:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8368792)
All my yes. ^^ I don't mean 100% casual as in you can beat it with your first playthrough team - because the gym leaders will be challenging, and the champion will be the best amongst us, with a competitive team at his / her disposal. But I personally, don't want it to be 30 turns of switching Azumarills and Garchomps in and out of stealth rocks. Because seriously. There is NO instance of that, anywhere in any of the games, between gym leaders or elite 4, without going against other human opponents. I think if we just get the right spirt amongst the gym leaders, and keep sportsmanship and communication in our focus we should be alright. (not saying those pokemon, or things like entry hazards shouldn't be allowed. Just that we should be mindful about keeping a smidge of authenticity wedged between our pokeballs with this.)

Also - on what you said about the authentic gym leader / league feel- I think it's a great idea to discuss both challenger and leader teams openly. Helping each other out, suggesting tweaks to pokemon and team builds could really help some people step up their game. Maybe even get someone through the league who wouldn't have on their own, or had attempted to previously. And as long as the gym leaders are locked into one typing, their teams should be somewhat possible to document and share amongst challengers.



Hah - I wouldn't say I should be 'in charge'. I'm eager to help push this, since I love the idea and wanna participate though. :P And you haven't missed that much, only 3 pages or so. : , Primary issue right now is discussing logistics. Sim vs Games and all that.

Anywhoooo.


This weekend may be a good chance to spearhead getting this started. I'm gonna send out some PM and VM's right now, to hopefully get someone to involve themselves heavily with the Showdown half of the league. Volunteers would be great too though : , I know a lot of people in the thread already said they're backing the idea, but is anyone willing to take a spot helping to organize dat sim half?

We should also establish some rules. I'm just brainstorming here.

No legendaries bar the trios.
Pokebank is allowed.
No smogon bans or complex bans (example: swag play and shell smash+ baton pass is allowed)
Illegal/hacked/unrealeased HA is not allowed.
No pokemon of the same pokedex number is allowed.

Again, just some ideas. I'll think of more later.

Belldandy July 25th, 2014 3:04 PM

This is a neat idea :) I just wish I knew more about competitive battling XD I'd be the Normal-Type Gym Leader Irène, and as Irène means peace, I'd pick Pokemon like:

Blissey
Audino
Wigglytuff
Cincinno
Delcatty

Cuteee <3 and they would all have Sing, as I'd put people to peaceful sleeps :P

Horrible accuracy, though.

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 3:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoric (Post 8368814)
I'd be interested in participating. Definitely prefer Showdown, though, don't have a great ingame team.

Noooo problem :D We're gonna have everyone covered, with a bi-partisan league that supports X/Y and Showdown. Glad to have ya ~ probably set up a tourney or something to set places here in the next few days to a week.

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Originally Posted by BadPokemon (Post 8368828)
We should also establish some rules. I'm just brainstorming here.

No legendaries bar the trios.
Pokebank is allowed.
No smogon bans or complex bans (example: swag play and shell smash+ baton pass is allowed)
Illegal/hacked/unrealeased HA is not allowed.
No pokemon of the same pokedex number is allowed.

Again, just some ideas. I'll think of more later.

I concur on the first one - I think I mentioned that in the semi-op about suggesting rules, glad to hear someone's with me hahah.
Pokebank too, yes - seconded.
Smogon bans, I withhold my opinion - I can't really say since I'm not even aware of all their numerous bans on movesets, abilities, items, and pokemon. I will read up on it though-
Agree that no hacks should be allowed. Why ever would theyyyy-
And concur on the no 2 same pokedex pokemon. Erm wait - do we wanna enforce that last one for Gym Leaders too? Some gym leaders and Elite 4 members have used 2 of the same pokemon, a lot actually. LANCE. With his 2 illegal Dragonite. lol.

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Originally Posted by Belldandy (Post 8368831)
This is a neat idea :) I just wish I knew more about competitive battling XD I'd be the Normal-Type Gym Leader Irène, and as Irène means peace, I'd pick Pokemon like:

Blissey
Audino
Wigglytuff
Cincinno
Delcatty

Cuteee <3 and they would all have Sing, as I'd put people to peaceful sleeps :P

Horrible accuracy, though.

xD I'm so hoping the actual leaders, whomever gets the roles - actually use teams like this. It'd be so much fun hahaah.

Also Wigglytuff is a monster, it's not at all about peace. I hear it's committed terrible crimes.

champagnepapi July 25th, 2014 3:23 PM

I think 3:3 [3 wild cards] monotype would be best. If youre going to have strategy discussion on gym leaders, well they should at least be somewhat challenging. If im the grass gym and i have to pick all 6 grass types then all my opponent has to do is bring talonflame.

Belldandy July 25th, 2014 3:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8368836)
xD I'm so hoping the actual leaders, whomever gets the roles - actually use teams like this. It'd be so much fun hahaah.

Also Wigglytuff is a monster, it's not at all about peace. I hear it's committed terrible crimes.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100605230532/pokemon/images/3/3b/Harley_Wigglytuff.png

But yeah, I like themed teams, too, not just based on typing :)

TGM July 25th, 2014 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Antebellum (Post 8368851)
I think 3:3 [3 wild cards] monotype would be best. If youre going to have strategy discussion on gym leaders, well they should at least be somewhat challenging. If im the grass gym and i have to pick all 6 grass types then all my opponent has to do is bring talonflame.

I believe we talked about this, but challengers can only use one team for the whole league.

So someone who brings a Talonflame for your grass gym would have a harder time if I were to have a water gym.

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 3:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antebellum (Post 8368851)
I think 3:3 [3 wild cards] monotype would be best. If youre going to have strategy discussion on gym leaders, well they should at least be somewhat challenging. If im the grass gym and i have to pick all 6 grass types then all my opponent has to do is bring talonflame.

That's a good idea too - Gym Leaders always had their signature pokemon. We could have 3 pokemon on a gym leader's team be constant, and of course yeah - 3 for flex haha. Because being monotype locked is a disadvantage :P Especially with things like Grass and Rock.

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Originally Posted by Belldandy (Post 8368860)
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100605230532/pokemon/images/3/3b/Harley_Wigglytuff.png

But yeah, I like themed teams, too, not just based on typing :)

xD Wigglytuff. That picture was perfect. Well played. And ditto what you said; I know for sure at least Blue will be using a theme if he's a leader - all his pokemon are blue hehe. Which shouldn't be too hard since he's gonna shoot for the water gym.


But hey! I've sent out some PM's, there's some interest, let's hit the metal while it's hot. How does a tournament on Showdown / X/Y sound either this weekend, or this coming week to decide gym leader and E4 spots?

It is worth noting too - don't feel bad or be upset if you don't do well in the tournament, if you stay active in the league as a regular and / or successful challenger, you can take up a spot as a gym leader or Elite 4 member. The primary requirement is going to be activity and reliability in participating, since a League is nothing without the league members themselves.

Anyone got suggestions for when this should go down? : p

Oblivion Wing July 25th, 2014 4:07 PM

I would like to sign up for this :) i like everything i read so far. Who can i contact to be updated with any information/getting started and whatnot?

BadPokemon July 25th, 2014 4:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8368836)
Noooo problem :D We're gonna have everyone covered, with a bi-partisan league that supports X/Y and Showdown. Glad to have ya ~ probably set up a tourney or something to set places here in the next few days to a week.



I concur on the first one - I think I mentioned that in the semi-op about suggesting rules, glad to hear someone's with me hahah.
Pokebank too, yes - seconded.
Smogon bans, I withhold my opinion - I can't really say since I'm not even aware of all their numerous bans on movesets, abilities, items, and pokemon. I will read up on it though-
Agree that no hacks should be allowed. Why ever would theyyyy-
And concur on the no 2 same pokedex pokemon. Erm wait - do we wanna enforce that last one for Gym Leaders too? Some gym leaders and Elite 4 members have used 2 of the same pokemon, a lot actually. LANCE. With his 2 illegal Dragonite. lol.



xD I'm so hoping the actual leaders, whomever gets the roles - actually use teams like this. It'd be so much fun hahaah.

Also Wigglytuff is a monster, it's not at all about peace. I hear it's committed terrible crimes.

I meant no bans on movesets- smogon or not. Are the leaders using the in-game gym leaders'a pokemon or their own with their own moveset. Example: in X and Y, the rock type gym had a Tyrantrum, but the gym leader from our community at want to opt for a Rampardos instead. Are the gym types the same as in the game, or not?

TGM July 25th, 2014 4:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BadPokemon (Post 8368931)
I meant no bans on movesets- smogon or not. Are the leaders using the in-game gym leaders'a pokemon or their own with their own moveset. Example: in X and Y, the rock type gym had a Tyrantrum, but the gym leader from our community at want to opt for a Rampardos instead. Are the gym types the same as in the game, or not?

I'm gonna opt for our own builds, if I was forced to use the same pokemon that gym leaders used in the games I'd be sad cause I wasn't able to use my own :/

Nah July 25th, 2014 4:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferraligator (Post 8368915)
I would like to sign up for this :) i like everything i read so far. Who can i contact to be updated with any information/getting started and whatnot?

We're actually still discussing and setting up everything, but you're welcome to join in the conversation here.

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Originally Posted by BadPokemon (Post 8368931)
I meant no bans on movesets- smogon or not. Are the leaders using the in-game gym leaders'a pokemon or their own with their own moveset. Example: in X and Y, the rock type gym had a Tyrantrum, but the gym leader from our community at want to opt for a Rampardos instead. Are the gym types the same as in the game, or not?

The Showdown half of the league is going to have to abide by Smogon's rules, since Showdown uses Smogon's rules and we can't really change that. The 3DS half doesn't have to follow any specific rules, though we will obviously have to set a few rules ourselves.

I don't think that we're restricting ourselves to the types and Pokemon used in the actual games.

And about the little tournament to decide the E4 and Champion slots: I'd rather that it be this weekend.

Oh, and I call Dragon type. Just saying.

BadPokemon July 25th, 2014 4:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TGM (Post 8368944)
I'm gonna opt for our own builds, if I was forced to use the same pokemon that gym leaders used in the games I'd be sad cause I wasn't able to use my own :/

Yea, I agree 100%. I don't want to be limited to the same builds and pokemon, either. We have our own pokemon that we love to use and worked hard to breed and raise.

Euphoric July 25th, 2014 4:39 PM

I'd say that a gym leader could use any Pokemon that at least is part of whatever type they are.

Also I disagree on the 3:3 wild cards, no one wants to be like Flint in DP. One wildcard at most, possibly two. Gyms are meant to be specialized, and having that many wildcards is the antithesis of that.

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 4:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferraligator (Post 8368915)
I would like to sign up for this :) i like everything i read so far. Who can i contact to be updated with any information/getting started and whatnot?

I'll keep you posted mate. :P Subscribe to the thread if you want consistency though. My memory, isss questionable haha. But awesome! Glad to have you on board.

We should start a sign up sheet for X/Y + Showdown contenders.

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Originally Posted by BadPokemon (Post 8368931)
I meant no bans on movesets- smogon or not. Are the leaders using the in-game gym leaders'a pokemon or their own with their own moveset. Example: in X and Y, the rock type gym had a Tyrantrum, but the gym leader from our community at want to opt for a Rampardos instead. Are the gym types the same as in the game, or not?

Hah, as long as there's no Dark Void - I think I'm good :P

And I think our own pokemon and teams should be permitted. It'll add a lot of fun for both challengers and leaders to have that added aspect. Besides, finding someone to use only pokemon a bug gym leader has used... xD That poor trainer.

Euphoric July 25th, 2014 4:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8368956)
I'll keep you posted mate. :P Subscribe to the thread if you want consistency though. My memory, isss questionable haha. But awesome! Glad to have you on board.

We should start a sign up sheet for X/Y + Showdown contenders.



Hah, as long as there's no Dark Void - I think I'm good :P

And I think our own pokemon and teams should be permitted. It'll add a lot of fun for both challengers and leaders to have that added aspect. Besides, finding someone to use only pokemon a bug gym leader has used... xD That poor trainer.

Don't think it would be THAT BAD because you could use Pokemon the leaders used in aftergame rematches, but still, you shouldn't be limited by that. Hopefully the monotypes encourage some creative strategies.

BadPokemon July 25th, 2014 4:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zekrom (Post 8368953)
We're actually still discussing and setting up everything, but you're welcome to join in the conversation here.


The Showdown half of the league is going to have to abide by Smogon's rules, since Showdown uses Smogon's rules and we can't really change that. The 3DS half doesn't have to follow any specific rules, though we will obviously have to set a few rules ourselves.

I don't think that we're restricting ourselves to the types and Pokemon used in the actual games.

And about the little tournament to decide the E4 and Champion slots: I'd rather that it be this weekend.

Oh, and I call Dragon type. Just saying.

This weekend doesn't work for me. It should be held over a decided date once all the rules and stuff have been layed out. We could do a battle spot battle or vgc on showdown, but neither provide 6 v 6 and singles.

I call flying type gym. Its my favorite type.

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 4:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BadPokemon (Post 8368965)
This weekend doesn't work for me. It should be held over a decided date once all the rules and stuff have been layed out. We could do a battle spot battle or vgc on showdown, but neither provide 6 v 6 and singles.

I call flying type gym. Its my favorite type.


Oh you and I are so going to have to fight for that xD

But um, I know Wifi battles on X/Y can support 6 v 6 with capped at level 50 pokemon, I'd imagine Showdown has it too since you can customize just about everything there. We don't have to do it this weekend though, but I'm unavailable next weekend since it's my vacation, and I'm going to Baltimore for the whole time. Possibly devoid of Wifi too :P

I'd just like to hold the battles as soon as possible, while interest is still piqued - to get the maximum turnout and hopefully get the best potential people on board.

Oblivion Wing July 25th, 2014 4:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8368956)
I'll keep you posted mate. :P Subscribe to the thread if you want consistency though. My memory, isss questionable haha. But awesome! Glad to have you on board.

We should start a sign up sheet for X/Y + Showdown contenders.



Hah, as long as there's no Dark Void - I think I'm good :P

And I think our own pokemon and teams should be permitted. It'll add a lot of fun for both challengers and leaders to have that added aspect. Besides, finding someone to use only pokemon a bug gym leader has used... xD That poor trainer.

Thank you!! Is it too soon to call dibs on the ghost type gym/elite ^.^ hehehe i would love that!!

Nah July 25th, 2014 4:51 PM

6v6 Singles is the standard battle format on Showdown, so that's not a problem either.

I can do the tourney on weekdays too, it's just that I'm not available all day then because of work.

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 4:52 PM

I think first we need to decide (by battle) who gets to be leaders, then we can delegate types. Since the people who win, may not be satisfied or have the available pokemon immediately for what types they get stuck with. :P

So in order for everyone to be able to pick their type most efficiently, we need to pick who's picking hah.

champagnepapi July 25th, 2014 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoric (Post 8368955)
I'd say that a gym leader could use any Pokemon that at least is part of whatever type they are.

Also I disagree on the 3:3 wild cards, no one wants to be like Flint in DP. One wildcard at most, possibly two. Gyms are meant to be specialized, and having that many wildcards is the antithesis of that.

The purpose of monotype is to make the gyms on here proportionally difficult to how they're supposed to be in the regions. Ash might have trouble against brawly, but anyone playing the games can just wreck him with swellow. Now if brawly has a manectric, that restores the challenge and shakes things up. Basically youre still a specialist but more oc a "competitive specialist" to keep things interesting.

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Also, to the people who put "Im confused" in the poll, maybe ask your questions in the thread and someone could help answer them.

Btw can I grab the steel gym?

BadPokemon July 25th, 2014 5:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8368975)
Oh you and I are so going to have to fight for that xD

But um, I know Wifi battles on X/Y can support 6 v 6 with capped at level 50 pokemon, I'd imagine Showdown has it too since you can customize just about everything there. We don't have to do it this weekend though, but I'm unavailable next weekend since it's my vacation, and I'm going to Baltimore for the whole time. Possibly devoid of Wifi too :P

I'd just like to hold the battles as soon as possible, while interest is still piqued - to get the maximum turnout and hopefully get the best potential people on board.

BUT I CALLED IT FIRST!!! Just kidding. I'm sure we can work out some sort of agreement there. Possibly hold the tournament on showdown (I don't have a ready team and I think a lot of others don't, either). As you are the creator and head of this project, I think it should follow your schedule, but still to the convenience of others. Possibly Monday through Wednesday or Wednesday through Friday?

Euphoric July 25th, 2014 5:43 PM

Haha I think we should get a list of people participating (who are actually going to be the leaders) and then pick, as opposed to now.

@Antebellum: Yeah, that shakes it up, but it doesn't really make sense. Can you really imagine Brawly with a Manectric? Also, the hard part about Gym Leaders is that if your one or two Pokemon that match up well against them faint, the rest of the battle may be very difficult. With the type variety that most types have (Steel, Water, for example), it shouldn't be that hard

Oblivion Wing July 25th, 2014 6:23 PM

How can we get things started? I would like to help the most i can so we can at least have some work towards this even the slightest :) btw how would i subscribe to the thread? Been looking for a while now, forgot how :/

TGM July 25th, 2014 6:29 PM

I would participate in this tournament thing for the cartridge

so hard

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 6:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antebellum (Post 8369006)
The purpose of monotype is to make the gyms on here proportionally difficult to how they're supposed to be in the regions. Ash might have trouble against brawly, but anyone playing the games can just wreck him with swellow. Now if brawly has a manectric, that restores the challenge and shakes things up. Basically youre still a specialist but more oc a "competitive specialist" to keep things interesting.

----
Also, to the people who put "Im confused" in the poll, maybe ask your questions in the thread and someone could help answer them.

Btw can I grab the steel gym?

Oh hang on, whoa whoa whoa xD When you said 3:3 regular to wild card - I thought you meant 3 pokemon that matched your gyms type that are locked into your gym's roster permanently, and 3 STILL of your gyms type, that you can swap out at any time - I didn't know you meant like, completely out of the gym's element. :x This is something that should get some group input though; because I don't wanna be a dick and mandate the way I think is best.

I had originally intended, for the challengers being locked into 6 pokemon, for 8 different typed gyms, to balance with the fact that the Leader's teams, would in fact all be monotype. If the leaders all had half their teams as various types, they could effectively (and logically) choose 3 hard counters to things that normally best their standard type. And what's to keep the leader from using or primarily banking on their 3 wild cards if the challengers team is a bit advantageous compared to the Leader's team? Personally, in the interest of sheerly being more possible for challengers, I'd *like* to see the Gyms maintain monotype teams. If that position is outnumbered on that point though, I'll for sure roll with the flex / wild card idea too. But maybe keep it to 1 or 2 instead of half the team at least? :x

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Originally Posted by BadPokemon (Post 8369017)
BUT I CALLED IT FIRST!!! Just kidding. I'm sure we can work out some sort of agreement there. Possibly hold the tournament on showdown (I don't have a ready team and I think a lot of others don't, either). As you are the creator and head of this project, I think it should follow your schedule, but still to the convenience of others. Possibly Monday through Wednesday or Wednesday through Friday?

Forget my schedule, I"m only one guy in this haha. Let's aim for the time the MOST people will be available, potentially over the span of a few days I suppose, so we can get the most matches in for applicants.

Similar to Zekrom though, I work full time and Monday through Friday, I'm only available from 5pm Central US time until around midnight Central US time on account of work from 7-5 :L But hey, I can try and stretch that a bit. I've also got Wednesday off since I start my vacation Thursday.

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Originally Posted by Ferraligator (Post 8369114)
How can we get things started? I would like to help the most i can so we can at least have some work towards this even the slightest :) btw how would i subscribe to the thread? Been looking for a while now, forgot how :/

Lets start by taking names for who wants in. I'll get into that more below. And as for subscribing - at the top of the thread, on the right side below your controls and such, look for a "Thread Tools" option to click. It should give you a drop-down list, that says "Subscribe to thread" as one option. That'll keep you updated. ^^

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Originally Posted by Euphoric (Post 8369077)
Haha I think we should get a list of people participating (who are actually going to be the leaders) and then pick, as opposed to now.

@Antebellum: Yeah, that shakes it up, but it doesn't really make sense. Can you really imagine Brawly with a Manectric? Also, the hard part about Gym Leaders is that if your one or two Pokemon that match up well against them faint, the rest of the battle may be very difficult. With the type variety that most types have (Steel, Water, for example), it shouldn't be that hard


Right. A list is something we need. Goddangit I wish I was first post... I can't edit the poll or the OP. I'll compile a list where I can though, third down's not so bad.
On the wild card pokemon, I really don't think we need them on account of how many type matchups there are as of sixth gen. We've got a combo of just about every type that resists its common weaknesses. Flying gym for example, we've got Flying Ground, which takes off the rock and electric weaknesses, and Flying Water, which takes off the Ice, and flying electric again to take off electric, flying fighting for rock again... it goes on. I think the dual typings are enough to support a viable monotype gym. Plus again - authenticity :P


A sidenote though -guys we really need to decide who even places as a leader before we start calling types xD It's a battle tournament not a race haha. Starting a list on the first page now.

SO PLEASE - if you'd like to participate in the tournaments for placing as a leader, Elite, or Champion of the league - post in the thread saying so, with your PC username, wether you'll be competing on X/Y or on Showdown, and when you are available to do so! Let's make it happen! ^^

champagnepapi July 25th, 2014 6:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoric (Post 8369077)
Haha I think we should get a list of people participating (who are actually going to be the leaders) and then pick, as opposed to now.

@Antebellum: Yeah, that shakes it up, but it doesn't really make sense. Can you really imagine Brawly with a Manectric? Also, the hard part about Gym Leaders is that if your one or two Pokemon that match up well against them faint, the rest of the battle may be very difficult. With the type variety that most types have (Steel, Water, for example), it shouldn't be that hard

Yea that wasnt the best example but I think its possible to have the spirit of being a gym leader even with 3:3 mono, if you looked up old wifi leagues' videos you would probably see monotypey stuff like infernape and wormadam-s just alongside something like gyara to add challenge. Also as far as variety, steel and water are really the highest tier of that. No fire type is avoiding surf, and almost all the ghosts cant switch into shadow ball or crunch. I realize I'm on an island here, but I think a safety net might be necessary to preserve the authenticity of difficulty haha

Oh and id like to try out for elite, username is Antebellum, I prefer showdown but xy is cool too.

Also yea im cool with 1/2 wild card pokes

Oblivion Wing July 25th, 2014 7:30 PM

If you guys want to make things easier on the list, how about i get pms of the whole list with a deadline on it?

BadPokemon July 25th, 2014 7:44 PM

Who should be in charge of putting this list together? How should it be formatted? Is it first come, first serve? Should alternate gym types be available such as a sky battle gym, fossil gym, or something of the sorts? Could a gym be run by two separate people?

Again, I call flying type gym.

Blueboi22 July 25th, 2014 7:46 PM

This league hasn't even started yet and I owe somebody a badge XD

Oblivion Wing July 25th, 2014 7:50 PM

Well, if Spectrum wants, i can gather names as they come. But it needs to be discussed the gym types. Qualifications for the gyms as well. Another big one is, what happens if the trainer looses, how long does he/she have til next challenge? So on and so forth...







Would like to be ghost gym leader :)

TGM July 25th, 2014 7:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8369118)
SO PLEASE - if you'd like to participate in the tournaments for placing as a leader, Elite, or Champion of the league - post in the thread saying so, with your PC username, wether you'll be competing on X/Y or on Showdown, and when you are available to do so! Let's make it happen! ^^

TGM, I'll be on X/Y, I should be available anytime this weekend

Blueboi22 July 25th, 2014 8:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8369118)
SO PLEASE - if you'd like to participate in the tournaments for placing as a leader, Elite, or Champion of the league - post in the thread saying so, with your PC username, wether you'll be competing on X/Y or on Showdown, and when you are available to do so! Let's make it happen! ^^

Do Teejee and I still have to do this? We kinda battled for the water spot already. But if not then consider me signed up for this officially:

Username: Blueboi22...duh
IGN: Bryce

Oblivion Wing July 25th, 2014 8:05 PM

Count me in for Ghost type gym or elite!!!

User name: Ferraligator
IGN: Fabio

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 8:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadPokemon (Post 8369177)
Who should be in charge of putting this list together? How should it be formatted? Is it first come, first serve? Should alternate gym types be available such as a sky battle gym, fossil gym, or something of the sorts? Could a gym be run by two separate people?

Again, I call flying type gym.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueboi22 (Post 8369180)
This league hasn't even started yet and I owe somebody a badge XD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferraligator (Post 8369183)
Well, if Spectrum wants, i can gather names as they come. But it needs to be discussed the gym types. Qualifications for the gyms as well. Another big one is, what happens if the trainer looses, how long does he/she have til next challenge? So on and so forth...

Would like to be ghost gym leader :)

http://i57.*.com/n5rcjl.jpg

Hahah but really, lets wait til we know who gets to be leaders, eh? :P I have put a list together, right >>here<< in the 4th post of this thread. Beast I could do since Adam still technically started the thread. Wish he was allowed on the computer more. :1

Blue and Teejee - do you guys wanna count that match? It was for the noble right of water gym, but it also didn't have you face off against any of the other potential gym leaders. :I And didn't you decide singles / doubles? Or something? We may not be able to do that now though, since we're already splitting it into Showdown and X/Y... So if you wanna just count it as your match alone, I guess? But that still leaves your matches with everyone else. And sharing the gym may not be an option with how thin we're already spreading everyone on this.

Anwho on what else you brought up, how does everyone feel about specialty gyms? I think we could kinda vote it yay or neigh by committee, since if no one has a problem with it, no one has a problem with it. :J And no badges yet plz. We haven't even set it up haha. I think a good wait time for challengers between challenges, is at least 24 hours. S'what I think. Anybody think a longer or shorter time is more appropriate?

Blueboi22 July 25th, 2014 8:09 PM

the badge thing was a joke BTW :P

Euphoric July 25th, 2014 8:09 PM

My Showdown username is lugialord, btw. I'm available a lot as it's summer right now.

How long are signups going to run for? And for leaders to claim types, maybe (after all the leaders have been selected) each submits a list of, say, 3 types they'd like, and we can go from there? Obviously, we can't have everyone vying to be types like Dragon and Water, though.

champagnepapi July 25th, 2014 8:14 PM

It might be worth telling ultraviolence that theres a showdown option now

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 8:18 PM

Putting your 3DS FC and IGN beneath your username on all your posts by using your profile could be helpful, or your Showdown name and stuff in your sigs. But um. On time frame; as long as we know which people are gonna be in it, I suppose we can start battling right now. Of course, until we've had at least one match between each potential candidate we can't start naming leaders - so we'll have to put an end date on it too.

For now though, any two candidates for league spots who plan to be in the same platform as one another can start battling - but make sure you save it, or - whatever showdown has, and have both participants post the result.

Dude, we really need someone who knows their Showdown stuff. :I I don't know ♥♥♥♥ about Showdown, seriously. Someone pls. Halp.

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Originally Posted by Antebellum (Post 8369209)
It might be worth telling ultraviolence that theres a showdown option now


I'll PM him - he'll be in on it for Showdown for certain, right?

champagnepapi July 25th, 2014 8:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8369218)
Putting your 3DS FC and IGN beneath your username on all your posts by using your profile could be helpful, or your Showdown name and stuff in your sigs. But um. On time frame; as long as we know which people are gonna be in it, I suppose we can start battling right now. Of course, until we've had at least one match between each potential candidate we can't start naming leaders - so we'll have to put an end date on it too.

For now though, any two candidates for league spots who plan to be in the same platform as one another can start battling - but make sure you save it, or - whatever showdown has, and have both participants post the result.

Dude, we really need someone who knows their Showdown stuff. :I I don't know ♥♥♥♥ about Showdown, seriously. Someone pls. Halp.




I'll PM him - he'll be in on it for Showdown for certain, right?

Not sure but its worth a try. Showdown has replays like the games too though, so we can save those.

Oblivion Wing July 25th, 2014 8:22 PM

Well when are we having sign ups??

I think a elite 4 would be awesome for PC!

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 8:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Antebellum (Post 8369223)
Not sure but its worth a try. Showdown has replays like the games too though, so we can save those.

I just PM'd em - hopefully he's still interested. :P

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Originally Posted by Ferraligator (Post 8369226)
Well when are we having sign ups??

I think a elite 4 would be awesome for PC!


Right here mate, what platform do you want to play on?

Oblivion Wing July 25th, 2014 8:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8369233)
I just PM'd em - hopefully he's still interested. :P




Right here mate, what platform do you want to play on?

Pokemon Y in my 3DS. Dont even know what showdown is...

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 8:49 PM

Nice, alright added you to the list. I'm gonna give this some more time to air, possibly pick up a few more people. Maybe some of those people that voted yes in the poll - but haven't posted. :P


(Bumped up here to hopefully make it more visible to people who don't sort through the pages)

Registered participants for league qualifier tourney:

Antebellum (Showdown, possible X/Y)
Polar Spectrum (X/Y)
TGM (X/Y)
Zekrom (Showdown, possible X/Y)
BlueBoi22 (X/Y, possible Showdown)
BadPokemon (Showdown)
Srinator (Showdown)
Euphoric (Showdown)
Ferraligator (X/Y)
Charizard Man (X/Y)
Adam Eternal (X/Y)
CycloneGU (X/Y)
Falkbalk (Showdown)

As it stands now, we have: 5, possibly 6 players competing on Showdown - and 7 potentially 9 on X/Y. This would de facto give all Showdown competitors listed above a spot in the league, and keep only two contender(s) on X/Y from placing as a leader or elite / champ.



There I fixed the 'o' haha.

Qualifier Matchups
---------------------------------------------

~Showdown~

Antebellum vs Zekrom - N/A
Antebellum vs Blueboi - N/A
Antebellum vs Srinator - N/A
Antebellum vs Euphoric - N/A
Antebellum vs Bad Pokemon - N/A
Antebellum vs Falkbalk - N/A
Zekrom vs Blueboi - N/A
Zekrom vs Srinator - N/A
Zekrom vs Euphoric - N/A
Zekrom vs Bad Pokemon - N/A
Zekrom vs Falkbalk - N/A
Blueboi vs Srinator - N/A
Blueboi vs Euphoric - N/A
Blueboi vs Bad Pokemon - N/A
Blueboi vs Falkbalk - N/A
Srinator vs Euphoric - N/A
Srinator vs Bad Pokemon - N/A
Srinator vs Falkbalk - N/A
Euphoric vs Bad Pokemon - N/A
Euphoric vs Falkbalk - N/A
Bad Pokemon vs Falkbalk - N/A

~X/Y~

Antebellum vs Polar Spectrum - N/A
Antebellum vs TGM - N/A
Antebellum vs Zekrom - N/A
Antebellum vs Blueboi - N/A
Antebellum vs Ferraligator - N/A
Antebellum vs Charizard Man - N/A
Antebellum vs Adam Eternal - N/A
Antebellum vs CycloneGU - N/A
Polar Spectrum vs TGM - Polar Spectrum
Polar Spectrum vs Zekrom - Zekrom
Polar Spectrum vs Blueboi - Polar Spectrum
Polar Spectrum vs Ferraligator - Polar Spectrum
Polar Spectrum vs Charizard Man - Charizard Man
Polar Spectrum vs Adam Eternal - Polar Spectrum
Polar Spectrum vs CycloneGU - N/A
TGM vs Zekrom - Zekrom
TGM vs Blueboi - TGM
TGM vs Ferraligator - TGM
TGM vs Charizard Man - Charizard Man
TGM vs Adam Eternal - TGM
TGM vs Cyclone GU - N/A
Zekrom vs Blueboi - N/A
Zekrom vs Ferraligator - N/A
Zekrom vs Charizard Man - N/A
Zekrom vs Adam Eternal - N/A
Zekrom vs CycloneGU - N/A
Blueboi vs Ferraligator - Blueboi
Blueboi vs Charizard Man - N/A
Blueboi vs Adam Eternal - N/A
Blueboi vs CycloneGU - N/A
Ferraligator vs Charizard Man - Charizard Man
Ferraligator vs Adam Eternal - N/A
Ferraligator vs CycloneGU- N/A
Charizard Man vs Adam Eternal - N/A
Charizard Man vs Cyclone GU - N/A
Adam Eternal vs Cyclone GU - N/A


It's NOT too late to join! Post if you want to sign up!

Oblivion Wing July 25th, 2014 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8369267)
Nice, alright added you to the list. I'm gonna give this some more time to air, possibly pick up a few more people. Maybe some of those people that voted yes in the poll - but haven't posted. :P

Awesome thanks!!! By the way it's ferraligator with an O!! :P

Charizard_Man July 26th, 2014 3:00 AM

Spot open for (X/Y)? Would love to participate


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