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BadPokemon July 25th, 2014 5:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8368975)
Oh you and I are so going to have to fight for that xD

But um, I know Wifi battles on X/Y can support 6 v 6 with capped at level 50 pokemon, I'd imagine Showdown has it too since you can customize just about everything there. We don't have to do it this weekend though, but I'm unavailable next weekend since it's my vacation, and I'm going to Baltimore for the whole time. Possibly devoid of Wifi too :P

I'd just like to hold the battles as soon as possible, while interest is still piqued - to get the maximum turnout and hopefully get the best potential people on board.

BUT I CALLED IT FIRST!!! Just kidding. I'm sure we can work out some sort of agreement there. Possibly hold the tournament on showdown (I don't have a ready team and I think a lot of others don't, either). As you are the creator and head of this project, I think it should follow your schedule, but still to the convenience of others. Possibly Monday through Wednesday or Wednesday through Friday?

Euphoric July 25th, 2014 5:43 PM

Haha I think we should get a list of people participating (who are actually going to be the leaders) and then pick, as opposed to now.

@Antebellum: Yeah, that shakes it up, but it doesn't really make sense. Can you really imagine Brawly with a Manectric? Also, the hard part about Gym Leaders is that if your one or two Pokemon that match up well against them faint, the rest of the battle may be very difficult. With the type variety that most types have (Steel, Water, for example), it shouldn't be that hard

Oblivion Wing July 25th, 2014 6:23 PM

How can we get things started? I would like to help the most i can so we can at least have some work towards this even the slightest :) btw how would i subscribe to the thread? Been looking for a while now, forgot how :/

TGM July 25th, 2014 6:29 PM

I would participate in this tournament thing for the cartridge

so hard

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 6:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Antebellum (Post 8369006)
The purpose of monotype is to make the gyms on here proportionally difficult to how they're supposed to be in the regions. Ash might have trouble against brawly, but anyone playing the games can just wreck him with swellow. Now if brawly has a manectric, that restores the challenge and shakes things up. Basically youre still a specialist but more oc a "competitive specialist" to keep things interesting.

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Also, to the people who put "Im confused" in the poll, maybe ask your questions in the thread and someone could help answer them.

Btw can I grab the steel gym?

Oh hang on, whoa whoa whoa xD When you said 3:3 regular to wild card - I thought you meant 3 pokemon that matched your gyms type that are locked into your gym's roster permanently, and 3 STILL of your gyms type, that you can swap out at any time - I didn't know you meant like, completely out of the gym's element. :x This is something that should get some group input though; because I don't wanna be a dick and mandate the way I think is best.

I had originally intended, for the challengers being locked into 6 pokemon, for 8 different typed gyms, to balance with the fact that the Leader's teams, would in fact all be monotype. If the leaders all had half their teams as various types, they could effectively (and logically) choose 3 hard counters to things that normally best their standard type. And what's to keep the leader from using or primarily banking on their 3 wild cards if the challengers team is a bit advantageous compared to the Leader's team? Personally, in the interest of sheerly being more possible for challengers, I'd *like* to see the Gyms maintain monotype teams. If that position is outnumbered on that point though, I'll for sure roll with the flex / wild card idea too. But maybe keep it to 1 or 2 instead of half the team at least? :x

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Originally Posted by BadPokemon (Post 8369017)
BUT I CALLED IT FIRST!!! Just kidding. I'm sure we can work out some sort of agreement there. Possibly hold the tournament on showdown (I don't have a ready team and I think a lot of others don't, either). As you are the creator and head of this project, I think it should follow your schedule, but still to the convenience of others. Possibly Monday through Wednesday or Wednesday through Friday?

Forget my schedule, I"m only one guy in this haha. Let's aim for the time the MOST people will be available, potentially over the span of a few days I suppose, so we can get the most matches in for applicants.

Similar to Zekrom though, I work full time and Monday through Friday, I'm only available from 5pm Central US time until around midnight Central US time on account of work from 7-5 :L But hey, I can try and stretch that a bit. I've also got Wednesday off since I start my vacation Thursday.

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Originally Posted by Ferraligator (Post 8369114)
How can we get things started? I would like to help the most i can so we can at least have some work towards this even the slightest :) btw how would i subscribe to the thread? Been looking for a while now, forgot how :/

Lets start by taking names for who wants in. I'll get into that more below. And as for subscribing - at the top of the thread, on the right side below your controls and such, look for a "Thread Tools" option to click. It should give you a drop-down list, that says "Subscribe to thread" as one option. That'll keep you updated. ^^

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Originally Posted by Euphoric (Post 8369077)
Haha I think we should get a list of people participating (who are actually going to be the leaders) and then pick, as opposed to now.

@Antebellum: Yeah, that shakes it up, but it doesn't really make sense. Can you really imagine Brawly with a Manectric? Also, the hard part about Gym Leaders is that if your one or two Pokemon that match up well against them faint, the rest of the battle may be very difficult. With the type variety that most types have (Steel, Water, for example), it shouldn't be that hard


Right. A list is something we need. Goddangit I wish I was first post... I can't edit the poll or the OP. I'll compile a list where I can though, third down's not so bad.
On the wild card pokemon, I really don't think we need them on account of how many type matchups there are as of sixth gen. We've got a combo of just about every type that resists its common weaknesses. Flying gym for example, we've got Flying Ground, which takes off the rock and electric weaknesses, and Flying Water, which takes off the Ice, and flying electric again to take off electric, flying fighting for rock again... it goes on. I think the dual typings are enough to support a viable monotype gym. Plus again - authenticity :P


A sidenote though -guys we really need to decide who even places as a leader before we start calling types xD It's a battle tournament not a race haha. Starting a list on the first page now.

SO PLEASE - if you'd like to participate in the tournaments for placing as a leader, Elite, or Champion of the league - post in the thread saying so, with your PC username, wether you'll be competing on X/Y or on Showdown, and when you are available to do so! Let's make it happen! ^^

champagnepapi July 25th, 2014 6:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoric (Post 8369077)
Haha I think we should get a list of people participating (who are actually going to be the leaders) and then pick, as opposed to now.

@Antebellum: Yeah, that shakes it up, but it doesn't really make sense. Can you really imagine Brawly with a Manectric? Also, the hard part about Gym Leaders is that if your one or two Pokemon that match up well against them faint, the rest of the battle may be very difficult. With the type variety that most types have (Steel, Water, for example), it shouldn't be that hard

Yea that wasnt the best example but I think its possible to have the spirit of being a gym leader even with 3:3 mono, if you looked up old wifi leagues' videos you would probably see monotypey stuff like infernape and wormadam-s just alongside something like gyara to add challenge. Also as far as variety, steel and water are really the highest tier of that. No fire type is avoiding surf, and almost all the ghosts cant switch into shadow ball or crunch. I realize I'm on an island here, but I think a safety net might be necessary to preserve the authenticity of difficulty haha

Oh and id like to try out for elite, username is Antebellum, I prefer showdown but xy is cool too.

Also yea im cool with 1/2 wild card pokes

Oblivion Wing July 25th, 2014 7:30 PM

If you guys want to make things easier on the list, how about i get pms of the whole list with a deadline on it?

BadPokemon July 25th, 2014 7:44 PM

Who should be in charge of putting this list together? How should it be formatted? Is it first come, first serve? Should alternate gym types be available such as a sky battle gym, fossil gym, or something of the sorts? Could a gym be run by two separate people?

Again, I call flying type gym.

Blueboi22 July 25th, 2014 7:46 PM

This league hasn't even started yet and I owe somebody a badge XD

Oblivion Wing July 25th, 2014 7:50 PM

Well, if Spectrum wants, i can gather names as they come. But it needs to be discussed the gym types. Qualifications for the gyms as well. Another big one is, what happens if the trainer looses, how long does he/she have til next challenge? So on and so forth...







Would like to be ghost gym leader :)

TGM July 25th, 2014 7:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8369118)
SO PLEASE - if you'd like to participate in the tournaments for placing as a leader, Elite, or Champion of the league - post in the thread saying so, with your PC username, wether you'll be competing on X/Y or on Showdown, and when you are available to do so! Let's make it happen! ^^

TGM, I'll be on X/Y, I should be available anytime this weekend

Blueboi22 July 25th, 2014 8:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8369118)
SO PLEASE - if you'd like to participate in the tournaments for placing as a leader, Elite, or Champion of the league - post in the thread saying so, with your PC username, wether you'll be competing on X/Y or on Showdown, and when you are available to do so! Let's make it happen! ^^

Do Teejee and I still have to do this? We kinda battled for the water spot already. But if not then consider me signed up for this officially:

Username: Blueboi22...duh
IGN: Bryce

Oblivion Wing July 25th, 2014 8:05 PM

Count me in for Ghost type gym or elite!!!

User name: Ferraligator
IGN: Fabio

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 8:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BadPokemon (Post 8369177)
Who should be in charge of putting this list together? How should it be formatted? Is it first come, first serve? Should alternate gym types be available such as a sky battle gym, fossil gym, or something of the sorts? Could a gym be run by two separate people?

Again, I call flying type gym.

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Originally Posted by Blueboi22 (Post 8369180)
This league hasn't even started yet and I owe somebody a badge XD

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Originally Posted by Ferraligator (Post 8369183)
Well, if Spectrum wants, i can gather names as they come. But it needs to be discussed the gym types. Qualifications for the gyms as well. Another big one is, what happens if the trainer looses, how long does he/she have til next challenge? So on and so forth...

Would like to be ghost gym leader :)

http://i57.*.com/n5rcjl.jpg

Hahah but really, lets wait til we know who gets to be leaders, eh? :P I have put a list together, right >>here<< in the 4th post of this thread. Beast I could do since Adam still technically started the thread. Wish he was allowed on the computer more. :1

Blue and Teejee - do you guys wanna count that match? It was for the noble right of water gym, but it also didn't have you face off against any of the other potential gym leaders. :I And didn't you decide singles / doubles? Or something? We may not be able to do that now though, since we're already splitting it into Showdown and X/Y... So if you wanna just count it as your match alone, I guess? But that still leaves your matches with everyone else. And sharing the gym may not be an option with how thin we're already spreading everyone on this.

Anwho on what else you brought up, how does everyone feel about specialty gyms? I think we could kinda vote it yay or neigh by committee, since if no one has a problem with it, no one has a problem with it. :J And no badges yet plz. We haven't even set it up haha. I think a good wait time for challengers between challenges, is at least 24 hours. S'what I think. Anybody think a longer or shorter time is more appropriate?

Blueboi22 July 25th, 2014 8:09 PM

the badge thing was a joke BTW :P

Euphoric July 25th, 2014 8:09 PM

My Showdown username is lugialord, btw. I'm available a lot as it's summer right now.

How long are signups going to run for? And for leaders to claim types, maybe (after all the leaders have been selected) each submits a list of, say, 3 types they'd like, and we can go from there? Obviously, we can't have everyone vying to be types like Dragon and Water, though.

champagnepapi July 25th, 2014 8:14 PM

It might be worth telling ultraviolence that theres a showdown option now

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 8:18 PM

Putting your 3DS FC and IGN beneath your username on all your posts by using your profile could be helpful, or your Showdown name and stuff in your sigs. But um. On time frame; as long as we know which people are gonna be in it, I suppose we can start battling right now. Of course, until we've had at least one match between each potential candidate we can't start naming leaders - so we'll have to put an end date on it too.

For now though, any two candidates for league spots who plan to be in the same platform as one another can start battling - but make sure you save it, or - whatever showdown has, and have both participants post the result.

Dude, we really need someone who knows their Showdown stuff. :I I don't know ♥♥♥♥ about Showdown, seriously. Someone pls. Halp.

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Originally Posted by Antebellum (Post 8369209)
It might be worth telling ultraviolence that theres a showdown option now


I'll PM him - he'll be in on it for Showdown for certain, right?

champagnepapi July 25th, 2014 8:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8369218)
Putting your 3DS FC and IGN beneath your username on all your posts by using your profile could be helpful, or your Showdown name and stuff in your sigs. But um. On time frame; as long as we know which people are gonna be in it, I suppose we can start battling right now. Of course, until we've had at least one match between each potential candidate we can't start naming leaders - so we'll have to put an end date on it too.

For now though, any two candidates for league spots who plan to be in the same platform as one another can start battling - but make sure you save it, or - whatever showdown has, and have both participants post the result.

Dude, we really need someone who knows their Showdown stuff. :I I don't know ♥♥♥♥ about Showdown, seriously. Someone pls. Halp.




I'll PM him - he'll be in on it for Showdown for certain, right?

Not sure but its worth a try. Showdown has replays like the games too though, so we can save those.

Oblivion Wing July 25th, 2014 8:22 PM

Well when are we having sign ups??

I think a elite 4 would be awesome for PC!

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 8:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Antebellum (Post 8369223)
Not sure but its worth a try. Showdown has replays like the games too though, so we can save those.

I just PM'd em - hopefully he's still interested. :P

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Originally Posted by Ferraligator (Post 8369226)
Well when are we having sign ups??

I think a elite 4 would be awesome for PC!


Right here mate, what platform do you want to play on?

Oblivion Wing July 25th, 2014 8:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8369233)
I just PM'd em - hopefully he's still interested. :P




Right here mate, what platform do you want to play on?

Pokemon Y in my 3DS. Dont even know what showdown is...

Polar Spectrum July 25th, 2014 8:49 PM

Nice, alright added you to the list. I'm gonna give this some more time to air, possibly pick up a few more people. Maybe some of those people that voted yes in the poll - but haven't posted. :P


(Bumped up here to hopefully make it more visible to people who don't sort through the pages)

Registered participants for league qualifier tourney:

Antebellum (Showdown, possible X/Y)
Polar Spectrum (X/Y)
TGM (X/Y)
Zekrom (Showdown, possible X/Y)
BlueBoi22 (X/Y, possible Showdown)
BadPokemon (Showdown)
Srinator (Showdown)
Euphoric (Showdown)
Ferraligator (X/Y)
Charizard Man (X/Y)
Adam Eternal (X/Y)
CycloneGU (X/Y)
Falkbalk (Showdown)

As it stands now, we have: 5, possibly 6 players competing on Showdown - and 7 potentially 9 on X/Y. This would de facto give all Showdown competitors listed above a spot in the league, and keep only two contender(s) on X/Y from placing as a leader or elite / champ.



There I fixed the 'o' haha.

Qualifier Matchups
---------------------------------------------

~Showdown~

Antebellum vs Zekrom - N/A
Antebellum vs Blueboi - N/A
Antebellum vs Srinator - N/A
Antebellum vs Euphoric - N/A
Antebellum vs Bad Pokemon - N/A
Antebellum vs Falkbalk - N/A
Zekrom vs Blueboi - N/A
Zekrom vs Srinator - N/A
Zekrom vs Euphoric - N/A
Zekrom vs Bad Pokemon - N/A
Zekrom vs Falkbalk - N/A
Blueboi vs Srinator - N/A
Blueboi vs Euphoric - N/A
Blueboi vs Bad Pokemon - N/A
Blueboi vs Falkbalk - N/A
Srinator vs Euphoric - N/A
Srinator vs Bad Pokemon - N/A
Srinator vs Falkbalk - N/A
Euphoric vs Bad Pokemon - N/A
Euphoric vs Falkbalk - N/A
Bad Pokemon vs Falkbalk - N/A

~X/Y~

Antebellum vs Polar Spectrum - N/A
Antebellum vs TGM - N/A
Antebellum vs Zekrom - N/A
Antebellum vs Blueboi - N/A
Antebellum vs Ferraligator - N/A
Antebellum vs Charizard Man - N/A
Antebellum vs Adam Eternal - N/A
Antebellum vs CycloneGU - N/A
Polar Spectrum vs TGM - Polar Spectrum
Polar Spectrum vs Zekrom - Zekrom
Polar Spectrum vs Blueboi - Polar Spectrum
Polar Spectrum vs Ferraligator - Polar Spectrum
Polar Spectrum vs Charizard Man - Charizard Man
Polar Spectrum vs Adam Eternal - Polar Spectrum
Polar Spectrum vs CycloneGU - N/A
TGM vs Zekrom - Zekrom
TGM vs Blueboi - TGM
TGM vs Ferraligator - TGM
TGM vs Charizard Man - Charizard Man
TGM vs Adam Eternal - TGM
TGM vs Cyclone GU - N/A
Zekrom vs Blueboi - N/A
Zekrom vs Ferraligator - N/A
Zekrom vs Charizard Man - N/A
Zekrom vs Adam Eternal - N/A
Zekrom vs CycloneGU - N/A
Blueboi vs Ferraligator - Blueboi
Blueboi vs Charizard Man - N/A
Blueboi vs Adam Eternal - N/A
Blueboi vs CycloneGU - N/A
Ferraligator vs Charizard Man - Charizard Man
Ferraligator vs Adam Eternal - N/A
Ferraligator vs CycloneGU- N/A
Charizard Man vs Adam Eternal - N/A
Charizard Man vs Cyclone GU - N/A
Adam Eternal vs Cyclone GU - N/A


It's NOT too late to join! Post if you want to sign up!

Oblivion Wing July 25th, 2014 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8369267)
Nice, alright added you to the list. I'm gonna give this some more time to air, possibly pick up a few more people. Maybe some of those people that voted yes in the poll - but haven't posted. :P

Awesome thanks!!! By the way it's ferraligator with an O!! :P

Charizard_Man July 26th, 2014 3:00 AM

Spot open for (X/Y)? Would love to participate


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