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also, you both just insulted the joker http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/batman/images/9/92/JokerMHBTAS.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/180?cb=20100928165524 |
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I really hope they make some type of appearance. ;; Also have you watched Tri yet? I waited a bit myself, but it's really good, aaaaaah. |
Did post the bit with their names on the screen being kept track of when I did my recap when the movie came out.
Doubt their names would be on their and then not make an appearance lol. Their names are on their for some reason one way or another. Quote:
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I was discussing the Wonderswan games with a friend and something occurred to me.
Digimon in Tri are getting "infected" and they're sort of like possessed, what if this is all the doing of Millenniumon? He was the creator of Apocalymon (which created Devimon, Miyotismon and Etemon) and the Dark Masters, he also possessed many Digimon to do his bidding and the Diaboromon from Our War Game. So it could be possible for him to be behind everything again. For those that don't know, there'es a bit more lore to the Adventureverse than one may have realized: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Synopsis/DigimonWonderSwanGames |
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he chose the tamer universe with absolutely no explanation on how his father got there. the only guess i got is that when he chose that universe his parents where forcefully transported there with him or they are adopted parents regardless, what remains of millenniumon's evil was purified when ryo & cyberdramon biomerged into justimon |
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Maybe the battle with Alphamon happened the same day that tri. begins, so the rest of the Chosen don't know about it yet. Maybe it happened so long ago that the rest of the Chosen have accepted the loss of a few members. Or, another theory is that maybe there's some amnesia/time travel involved in the plot. I can understand that the writers wanted to create some mystery about the Zero Two Chosen, and they did that by showing their names on the computer with their whereabouts "unknown," and even having evil!Imperialdramon on the poster for the next movie. But it's still just odd that there isn't a mention of the Zero Two Chosen on a personal level. Like, in a recent magazine tease, it's mentioned that Hikari and a few fellow girls talk about the cute boys in their classes, like Takeru and Daisuke. If Daisuke's mentioned that way in a magazine, then why wasn't his name dropped in the actual movie? Or something mentioned about Iori and Miyako, since they (supposedly) still live in the same apartment building as Takeru? That's where my--and other people's--complaint lies: that the Zero Two Chosen weren't mentioned by the other characters, especially the two members that actually worked with them, at all. |
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also, if i remember correctly i'm pretty sure ryo can digivolve cyberdramon into zeedmillenniummon with a zeedmillenniummon card in brave tamers, rather then biomerging with him to become justimon on a side note, cyberdramon is actually a fan-made digimon made into a real one after winning an art contest back in 1999 |
So it's a theory? It's a pretty good theory, as it makes sense but looking at how Millenniumon was defeated in Anode/Cathode and came back after that without much of an explanation, they could totally pull an "it sleeps dormant inside of Cyberdramon as it tries to possess digimon from the Adventureverse to come rescue him".
Because I can actually see them doing it as it would explain the infected and give them a chance to get Ryo involved in some way, which they might want to do with all the nostalgia they have in Tri, I mean Ryo was liked by the japanese fandom quite a lot. |
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from the perspective of the original 8, the 02 children where sealed into the digital world a year prior due to the digigates being no longer functional and they had no way to contact them since. that was clearly stated from get-go just because they can call the houses of the 02 children, it dose not mean they can get in contact with the 02 children considering their not there. they can't contact them, they have had faith in them since years before they got sealed into the digital world and current events take priority over events that have passed & nothing can be done about. why would they even bother mentioning them? there would be no point in it. and can you really blame the writers for doing it this way when the majority of the fanbase hates 02? their gonna show up later regardless, its not like their dead. as i stated before the main problem is not with the story, but rather how its been split up over such huge gaps of time. people are quick to jump to assumptions & ridicule an incomplete story. |
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I didn't mean that they couldn't get in contact with them, I meant them not mentioning the 02 children as friends at all ever seemed kind of out of character, since with matters concerning Digimon, they were all very close, and close as friends. I just thought it was strange that they never once said anyone's name. |
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Which is why people wanted a retcon so that those plot holes stopped existing. |
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because with how much the logic involving adventures digital world/real world barrier changes from each time some villain or overseer messes with it, it would be highly illogical to try & bind it by any kind of logic. tri itself brought one good question into the mix, namely when did gennai start trusting random non-digidestined with data normally reserved for him, izzy & the few other digidestined capable of comprehending the most of it? their gonna have to bring a lot of information forth with the rest of the movies that will fill things on on that question & fill the 02 plot holes. |
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The Dark Ocean monster thingy for Hikari (Dagomon, Dragonmon, whatever) and the Daemon thing with the dark spores on Ken, like, what. Apart from that, yeah, not everything is "plot-hole" universally, some fans are arguing that the most stupid details are errors, like, it's a kid's show for God sake, don't look too much into it. I'm just hoping they will not start creating new plot holes lol |
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the entire episode was just a big reference to the call of the cthulhu and was meant to be a lot dark & creepier then what the dub was, kari's inferiority in comparison to tai was ripped out & was the part where tk was pissed off at her for comparing herself to tai after class was taken out. as for the regards to whether or not the "scubamon" where really captured or if it was all a ruse was meant to be a lot less clear then what it was in the dub, as the dub went for the whole "it was a trick" thing. there was never meant to be a clear ending to it, as it was meant to be an http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/enigmaberry.png that scares the http://www.serebiiforums.com/images/smilies2/050.gifs out of little kids & left them to wonder about it. as for the daemon corps, what was the plot hole with that? the fact that they just came out of nowhere and somehow knew of information that no one really should have known about to begin with? it never made much since that daemon & myotismon even knew of millenniumon's dark spore going into ken's neck, unless they where told about it before he was forced into fusing with monodromon or where watching from a far as myotis seemed to be doing. the writers where more then likely planing on an adventure season 3 for that part, which obviously never panned out for them and like the writers before them they got replaced as tamers came around |
In some interviews it was revealed that various writers for 02 had their own idea to how the plot would develop.
The Dark Ocean plotline was done by Chiaki Konaka (the one who wrote the entirety of Digimon Tamers and is known for works like Serial Experiments Lain) and it WAS meant to go somewhere but it was dropped due to eventually having been delayed so much that it would no longer make sense to have the ultimate level Dragomon as a villain. |
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either way, as i said before, that episode was it was meant to be an http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/enigmaberry.png that scares the http://www.serebiiforums.com/images/smilies2/050.gifs out of little kids & left them to wonder about it. even if they where going to expand upon it, it doesn't change how it's set up |
Thinking something ≠ Actually being a fact.
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Dagomon's introduction isn't really a plot hole. It just take a while to realize what it was setting up for the series.
-The introduction of the dark world --Where the dark spires originate --where Ken received his dark D3 --where Miyako and Hikari first Jogress --where Demon is banished to -The idea that there are other worlds --that the Chosen can travel to, like the World of Dreams and alluded to way back in Adventure --that these worlds should be kept separate so they don't cause distortions ---which is part of why the Chosen were called to fight: to prevent these distortions -Demon's introduction --which gave the (also argued about) character development for the new Chosen where they had to fight enemies who were actually alive The dark world is also used for other character development. It takes characters and explores their negative feelings with physical enemies they can see, which also happened in Adventure. Yamato and Sora went through a "mini" version of the dark world when they were in that tunnel during the Dark Master's arc. Members of the fandom have guessed that Dagomon (and Demon) were added to the story so that the reveal of Vamdemon being revived would be more shocking. Members of the fandom also are reminded of other unsolved mysteries from the first two seasons that were never explained in the show (or in other forms of canon). And then there's the whole idea that the story of Adventure and Zero Two are supposed to be "incomplete." In that world, the story is being written by someone who went through the adventure and could only ask the other Chosen (and anyone living) about events. Takeru can't exactly go ask Demon/Ryo/Dagomon what they were planning and include that in the story. It's a silly explanation, but in a way, it works. |
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New trailer for part 2 as well as a small teaser for part 3 at the end:
It shows some shots of Rosemon and Vikemon, Leomon and a infected Ogremon fighting at the village of beginnings, as well as an infected Imperialdramon DM and what looks to be... the Digimon Emperor/Kaiser? The part 3 teaser has Patamon and Takeru with the text "Goodbye, Takeru". From the looks of things we may have a Leomon and an Angemon death in our near future, Remember to take some tissues when you watch it, just in case. |
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