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Famon May 21st, 2016 5:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenchiin (Post 9250603)
In two months two people related to the franchise died.

That's harsh.

I guess God is very angry with the franchise !
Probably because some idiots tried to compare Digimon with actual God.

shadowmoon522 May 21st, 2016 10:55 AM

she also voiced tai's mom & izzy's mom
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Originally Posted by Famon (Post 9251270)
I guess God is very angry with the franchise !
Probably because some idiots tried to compare Digimon with actual God.

by that psyducked up logic she could have been smited because of all the comparisons of arceus & god.
she was a pokemon VA more recently then a digimon VA
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/0/0c/Gena.png/360px-Gena.png
either way, keep that disrespectful "angry god" bs away, as if a cosmic entity would get upset over something so trifling

Famon May 21st, 2016 8:45 PM

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Originally Posted by shadowmoon522 (Post 9251625)
she also voiced tai's mom & izzy's mom

by that psyducked up logic she could have been smited because of all the comparisons of arceus & god.
she was a pokemon VA more recently then a digimon VA
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/0/0c/Gena.png/360px-Gena.png
either way, keep that disrespectful "angry god" bs away, as if a cosmic entity would get upset over something so trifling

Why do you think Pokemon having hard time ?

shadowmoon522 May 21st, 2016 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Famon (Post 9252296)
Why do you think Pokemon having hard time ?

having a hard time? really?
the first 7th gen games: sun & moon are set to be released on nov 18th & has already built up the hype of millions
the anime is in one of the best story arcs in years
20th anniversary year
the revival of https://www.pokemoncenter-online.com/

pokemon is not having a hard time and nintendo & gamefreak are gonna reel in the dough once 7th gen comes.
the only part of pokemon thats having a hard time is shuffle because genius sonority sucks at making freemium games

Famon May 22nd, 2016 12:08 AM

Well , V-jump revealed Meikumon's evolution--

http://fdzeta.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/_eKxTi7K.jpg

Why they bother covering it ? We already seen Meikuumon evolution.
Honestly , I prefer if Digimon app Monster was a Spin-off of Digimon Tri and has a deep connection with OVA.
Imagine , A New Character appears at the end of Confession who reveal to be the protagonist of App Monster.
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Originally Posted by shadowmoon522 (Post 9252383)
having a hard time? really?
the first 7th gen games: sun & moon are set to be released on nov 18th & has already built up the hype of millions
the anime is in one of the best story arcs in years
20th anniversary year
the revival of https://www.pokemoncenter-online.com/

pokemon is not having a hard time and nintendo & gamefreak are gonna reel in the dough once 7th gen comes.
the only part of pokemon thats having a hard time is shuffle because genius sonority sucks at making freemium games

That only the game.
The Franschise on the otherhand having hard time keeping up with Youkai Watch.
Not to mention , The Movie sales are worst then ever.
Even Coro Coro doesn't bother putting pokemon in Front page anymore.

shadowmoon522 May 22nd, 2016 2:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Famon (Post 9252421)
That only the game.
The Franschise on the otherhand having hard time keeping up with Youkai Watch.
Not to mention , The Movie sales are worst then ever.
Even Coro Coro doesn't bother putting pokemon in Front page anymore.

coro coro has been lying for months now, so its current credibility is untrustworthy
also comparing pokemon to yokai watch in any way is like comparing pokemon to beyblade(tops), bakugan(marbles), medabots(medals with a watch + robots.)
it may have caused a storm in japan, but it won't ever gain what pokemon already has. also its creator, level 5, always makes series like this that gain a strong following, but never one as big as pokemon's.
LBX is an examples of what i mean. like zoids & medabots, it won't ever reach gundam's level(not to mention its just virtua on & custom robo's love child)

its not enough for yokai watch to crush pokemon, especially here in the states. it didn't take long for pokemon fans to swarm it. especially when the foolish comparison to it & pokemon reared its ugly head and was nothing more then it getting a popularity boost by piggy-backing on pokmons popularity. its gonna fade from the front, but keep enough of a following to keep it around.

Astinus May 22nd, 2016 2:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Famon (Post 9252421)
Honestly , I prefer if Digimon app Monster was a Spin-off of Digimon Tri and has a deep connection with OVA.
Imagine , A New Character appears at the end of Confession who reveal to be the protagonist of App Monster.

It's better to keep the different series separate. Having App Monster crossover with the Adventure universe would be way too messy, and the new character would take the attention away from the other Adventure characters.

Plus, the writers should focus more on Meiko and Meikumon and introducing them better than bringing in yet another new character.

shadowmoon522 May 23rd, 2016 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Astinus (Post 9253346)
It's better to keep the different series separate. Having App Monster crossover with the Adventure universe would be way too messy, and the new character would take the attention away from the other Adventure characters.

Plus, the writers should focus more on Meiko and Meikumon and introducing them better than bringing in yet another new character.

appmonster? isn't that a back up & restore application for droids?
also it should be noted that adventure is already connected with the wonderswan games & the tamers universe and is a big part of the reason ken became the digimon emperor the first time and how/why ryo ended up in the tamers universe. in fact the events of 02 & ken's current state in tri was pretty much kickstarted by millenniummon.

ggctuk May 23rd, 2016 1:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Famon (Post 9252421)
Well , V-jump revealed Meikumon's evolution--

http://fdzeta.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/_eKxTi7K.jpg

Why they bother covering it ? We already seen Meikuumon evolution.

Nope, we haven't: while Meicoomon did change a little in appearance (mainly became more menacing), it was still feline in appearance and is most likely still Champion level (think Leomon growing bigger and turning ashen when he was infected with Black Gears). This is humanoid.

I'm more concerned what part Ken Ichijouji will play.

Astinus May 23rd, 2016 2:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shadowmoon522 (Post 9253868)
appmonster? isn't that a back up & restore application for droids?

I will fully admit that I haven't been following the news about this new part of Digimon because I don't care for it.

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also it should be noted that adventure is already connected with the wonderswan games & the tamers universe and is a big part of the reason ken became the digimon emperor the first time and how/why ryo ended up in the tamers universe. in fact the events of 02 & ken's current state in tri was pretty much kickstarted by millenniummon.
I know the whole backstory of Zero Two. And I will tell you that Ken's backstory was not handled well in the anime because there was no part of the story where Ryo was brought up. Yes, Japanese children knew who Ryo was because of the Wonderswan games, but anyone else in the world didn't know (especially Zero Two's target audience at the time). Ryo and Millenniumon appear in the anime with no explanation.

Then Ryo is brought back for Tamers, which again would make sense to Japanese audiences, but audiences elsewhere are wondering why a character who appeared in one season is now in another. Every other character from the other seasons are just television characters, but Ryo is special with no explanation given in the show itself.

Ryo's whole backstory and connection between seasons is still so unknown by a lot of people. To the point where as recently as six months ago there were Digimon fans that didn't know Ryo in Tamers was the same as Ryo in Zero Two and what his story is.

And that's why I don't want to see yet another part of the Digimon franchise connected to Adventure/Zero Two/tri. Everything is messy enough, and parts of the backstory for Adventure/Zero Two/tri aren't explained well because the writers already have too much to handle. Why bring in some new character into tri from something new and unconnected when there's already several characters in tri that still need to be developed?

ggctuk May 23rd, 2016 2:21 PM

There was a comic released years ago in the UK as part of the official Digimon Magazine here in the UK. It did briefly touch upon who Ryo was.

http://digipedia.db-destiny.net/ryo/ryostory.htm

There were some okay stories in there from what I remember but nothing truly groundbreaking, given it was a magazine simply made to cash in on the popularity of the show at the time. I remember buying the final issue which told the story of how Gatomon Digivolved to Magnadramon.

Hedo May 24th, 2016 11:05 AM

Dang it, I need to watch the old series to prep myself.
It seems like every time I try to start that dang thing, something comes up.

I try though, peeps.

Famon May 24th, 2016 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Astinus (Post 9253346)
It's better to keep the different series separate. Having App Monster crossover with the Adventure universe would be way too messy, and the new character would take the attention away from the other Adventure characters.

Plus, the writers should focus more on Meiko and Meikumon and introducing them better than bringing in yet another new character.

Don't you think it would other way around ?
I think that Tri series might take all the attention from App-monster.
I believe that most fans would be more interested in Tri series then paying attention to a new series with random new series.
People probably might lose interest on App-monster after story-summary and 1st episode is released.
I don't think People would be interest on App-monster with Tri series going on.
Unless , App-monster has some connection with Tri series.
Maybe , Tri series will be a multiversal and App-monsters is created to fill the gap.


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Originally Posted by shadowmoon522 (Post 9252514)
coro coro has been lying for months now, so its current credibility is untrustworthy
also comparing pokemon to yokai watch in any way is like comparing pokemon to beyblade(tops), bakugan(marbles), medabots(medals with a watch + robots.)
it may have caused a storm in japan, but it won't ever gain what pokemon already has. also its creator, level 5, always makes series like this that gain a strong following, but never one as big as pokemon's.
LBX is an examples of what i mean. like zoids & medabots, it won't ever reach gundam's level(not to mention its just virtua on & custom robo's love child)

its not enough for yokai watch to crush pokemon, especially here in the states. it didn't take long for pokemon fans to swarm it. especially when the foolish comparison to it & pokemon reared its ugly head and was nothing more then it getting a popularity boost by piggy-backing on pokmons popularity. its gonna fade from the front, but keep enough of a following to keep it around.

Just because CoroCoro lose interest in Pokemon news doesn't mean it lied ! Pokemon.com Already release the news they were to release in their Issue.
Also , Bakugun , Beyblade and Metabot didn't reach Youkai Watch's level of popularity.
Medabot pretty much destroyed itself in Thrid Season when they cut of major character like Karin , Koiji and Mr Referee.
There wasn't any point of watching Medabot without Karin.
And Now Pokemon pretty much killing themselves just like Medabot.

shadowmoon522 May 25th, 2016 3:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Famon (Post 9256371)
Just because CoroCoro lose interest in Pokemon news doesn't mean it lied ! Pokemon.com Already release the news they were to release in their Issue.

they claimed they would have info & they did not.
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Also , Bakugun , Beyblade and Metabot didn't reach Youkai Watch's level of popularity.
bakugan didn't make it for obvious reasons, by that point it looked like another generic series. still lasted long enough to get 189 episodes.
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Medabot pretty much destroyed itself in Thrid Season when they cut of major character like Karin , Koiji and Mr Referee.
There wasn't any point of watching Medabot without Karin.
that was Production I.G.'s fault, before then medabots was owned by bee train who did a wonderful job with it. Production I.G. normally dose a good job with anime under their hold like pokemon origins, FLCL, xxxHolic blood+, eden of the east, kid icurias thanatos rising, AoT, ect but they clearly didn't know how to handle medabots
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And Now Pokemon pretty much killing themselves just like Medabot.
no, whats killing pokemon's anime is the fact that they won't get rid of ash to the point where their even keeping his age the same. pokemon special/adventure has always been what the anime should have been, keeping the old mcs while adding new ones & having most of the mcs interact with each other within reason. the villains where also handled better in the manga then the anime(or games most of the time due to the limited dialog).
even the powers of pokemon where done more accurately in the manga, like with dialga & palkia


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Originally Posted by Famon (Post 9256371)
Don't you think it would other way around ?
I think that Tri series might take all the attention from App-monster.
I believe that most fans would be more interested in Tri series then paying attention to a new series with random new series.
People probably might lose interest on App-monster after story-summary and 1st episode is released.
I don't think People would be interest on App-monster with Tri series going on.
Unless , App-monster has some connection with Tri series.
Maybe , Tri series will be a multiversal and App-monsters is created to fill the gap.

the adventure series already is multiversal as evidenced by ryo's existence in 01,02 tamers, the wonderswan games and the crossovers in Digimon V-Tamer 01 where ryo even mention's 01 tai/taichi while talking to V-Tamer's taichi & diasuke/davis stated that they where similar. not to mention xros wars...
http://i.makeagif.com/media/9-17-2015/YLmYM4.gif

also, wtf is the appmonster you're referring to?
has this thing been severely upgrade into a game?
http://img.prntscr.com/img?url=http://i.imgur.com/1ZV4VmN.png

Famon May 25th, 2016 3:53 AM

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Originally Posted by shadowmoon522 (Post 9256570)
they claimed they would have info & they did not.

The info was already reveal though Web-site and nobody gave a crap about Coro Coro afterward.

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no, whats killing pokemon's anime is the fact that they won't get rid of ash to the point where their even keeping his age the same. pokemon special/adventure has always been what the anime should have been, keeping the old mcs while adding new ones & having most of the mcs interact with each other within reason. the villains where also handled better in the manga then the anime(or games most of the time due to the limited dialog).
even the powers of pokemon where done more accurately in the manga, like with dialga & palkia
What will be the point of new protagonist if Anime keep repeating the same Overused plot over and over again ?
Writer need to come up with New quest for Ash after he win a League! A brand new reason for Ash to visit another Region.
Ash isn't the problem , The repetitive story is !
Imagine , A Next series will also be about Ash starting all over with new Pokemon as he goes to collect Gym-badge all over again ! Not to mention , We have to wait 2 year for Ash to get a Keystone or Synchiro-evolve his Starter pokemon while A New "Alain" fight Megevolve pokemon.
Seriously , It make the next series less watchable.
Instate , Why can't we have a series where the Entire Cosmo is in danger and Ash is one of "8 Chosen One" that can save the world ! But the other 7 character has their own philosophy and they are not willing to Work together.
No league , No gym , Just Saving the world.

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the adventure series already is multiversal as evidenced by ryo's existence in 01,02 tamers, the wonderswan games and the crossovers in Digimon V-Tamer 01 where ryo even mention's 01 tai/taichi while talking to V-Tamer's taichi & diasuke/davis stated that they where similar. not to mention xros wars...
http://i.makeagif.com/media/9-17-2015/YLmYM4.gif

also, wtf is the appmonster you're referring to?
has this thing been severely upgrade into a game?
http://img.prntscr.com/img?url=http://i.imgur.com/1ZV4VmN.png
Ah NO , Adventure series weren't multiversal .
Ryo story is only count as the Game , It barely exploit in the Anime ! In fact , Ryo story in Anime and Game are so full of Plot-holes that we don't even know how much of that are canon in the anime.
Also Only Hunter series were multiversal , Adventure anime has nothing to do with multiverse.

App-monster is name of the New Digimon Series

saifors May 26th, 2016 10:33 AM

Nearly the entirety of Digimon is one huge multiverse, to giva an example Digimon World Re:Digitize and an Nextorder are one continuity, they're connected through Rina and Mirei's appearance in Cyber Sleuth, thi one is connected to Digimon World Dawn/Dusk through the inclusion of Sayo, Dawn/ Dusk happen in the same world as DS, there's also a conection to the universe of Digimon Next and Savers, Savers is connected to Hunters and Adventure through the crossover episode in Hunters (which is part of the Xros Wars world), as well as the appearance of every main character from every anime season in Digimon Adventure PSP, there's the V-Tamers crossovers as well.

It's pretty much universally agreed in the fandom to be a multiverse, there's no point in arguing against it really.

Astinus May 28th, 2016 5:38 PM



New trailer for Confession dropped. Toei released it, then took it down, but people have already re-uploaded it everywhere.

Translation under the spoiler comes from onkei.

Spoiler:

TAICHI: “If we wait…”
TAICHI: “If we wait to do something ‘someday,’ we’ll end up grown adults before we even know it.”
DIGIMON ADVENTURE TRI, Chapter 3, “Confession”
YAMATO: “If we get more people who can evolve to Ultimate easily, we won’t have to rely on Omegamon anymore… Maybe it’ll be easier on you, too…”
PATAMON: “Hey, Takeru. I’m infected, right?”
NISHIJIMA: “How could you lie to the children like that?!”
HIMEKAWA: “Would it have been better if I had been honest about everything?”
TAICHI: “Because he’s a contrarian.”
MIMI: “Tsundere? Tsundere?!”
YAMATO: “NO. Are we really doing this again?”
KOUSHIRO: “It’s not just the Digital World that’s involved with the infection anymore.”
TAKERU: “I don’t care about whose fault it is, or who’s to blame. I care about what we should do from here. And what we should do is…”
??: “I won’t let you through! I will never let you through!”
HIMEKAWA: “The power of the Crests that you possess.”
SORA: “We and our Digimon partners are special. We’re always connected to each other. No matter what happens.”
MEIKO: “…”
SORA: “That’s what I believe.”
KOUSHIRO: “Taichi-san… Heh. Let’s go.”

shadowmoon522 May 28th, 2016 8:24 PM

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Originally Posted by saifors (Post 9258263)
Nearly the entirety of Digimon is one huge multiverse, to giva an example Digimon World Re:Digitize and an Nextorder are one continuity, they're connected through Rina and Mirei's appearance in Cyber Sleuth, thi one is connected to Digimon World Dawn/Dusk through the inclusion of Sayo, Dawn/ Dusk happen in the same world as DS, there's also a conection to the universe of Digimon Next and Savers, Savers is connected to Hunters and Adventure through the crossover episode in Hunters (which is part of the Xros Wars world), as well as the appearance of every main character from every anime season in Digimon Adventure PSP, there's the V-Tamers crossovers as well.

It's pretty much universally agreed in the fandom to be a multiverse, there's no point in arguing against it really.

shhhh ignore him, his comprehension of such things is limited and the logic never get's though.

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Originally Posted by Astinus (Post 9261240)


New trailer for Confession dropped. Toei released it, then took it down, but people have already re-uploaded it everywhere.

Translation under the spoiler comes from onkei.

Spoiler:

TAICHI: “If we wait…”
TAICHI: “If we wait to do something ‘someday,’ we’ll end up grown adults before we even know it.”
DIGIMON ADVENTURE TRI, Chapter 3, “Confession”
YAMATO: “If we get more people who can evolve to Ultimate easily, we won’t have to rely on Omegamon anymore… Maybe it’ll be easier on you, too…”
PATAMON: “Hey, Takeru. I’m infected, right?”
NISHIJIMA: “How could you lie to the children like that?!”
HIMEKAWA: “Would it have been better if I had been honest about everything?”
TAICHI: “Because he’s a contrarian.”
MIMI: “Tsundere? Tsundere?!”
YAMATO: “NO. Are we really doing this again?”
KOUSHIRO: “It’s not just the Digital World that’s involved with the infection anymore.”
TAKERU: “I don’t care about whose fault it is, or who’s to blame. I care about what we should do from here. And what we should do is…”
??: “I won’t let you through! I will never let you through!”
HIMEKAWA: “The power of the Crests that you possess.”
SORA: “We and our Digimon partners are special. We’re always connected to each other. No matter what happens.”
MEIKO: “…”
SORA: “That’s what I believe.”
KOUSHIRO: “Taichi-san… Heh. Let’s go.”

well, looks like things are gonna speed up to a crashing finish.

Astinus June 8th, 2016 1:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shadowmoon522 (Post 9253868)
appmonster? isn't that a back up & restore application for droids?

also, wtf is the appmonster you're referring to?

Well, despite not wanting to believe it, "App Monster" really is part of the title for this new addition to the Digimon franchise.

Digimon Universe: App Monsters (Appmon for short) has had a little more information released about it. The show will start on Tokyo TV in October, and an image of the gogglehead and a few of the Digimon has been revealed.


shadowmoon522 June 8th, 2016 1:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Astinus (Post 9277723)
Well, despite not wanting to believe it, "App Monster" really is part of the title for this new addition to the Digimon franchise.

Digimon Universe: App Monsters (Appmon for short) has had a little more information released about it. The show will start on Tokyo TV in October, and an image of the gogglehead and a few of the Digimon has been revealed.


...oooookay then
maybe they'll go & cross future diary/mirai nicki, eden of the east & digimon together with this one...
i mean, they usually don't go making digimon do more then make electronics go on the fritz so i'd be nice if they shake things up

Kenchiin June 8th, 2016 1:56 PM

Digimon App? I see Pokemon GO will have a rival then

Astinus June 29th, 2016 6:59 PM

Digimon Adventure Tri is getting a theatrical release in America.

I was just thinking this the other day while shopping. That if Tri had an English release, I could be buying Takeru Digimon merchandise again.

icomeanon6 June 29th, 2016 7:13 PM

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Originally Posted by saifors (Post 9258263)
It's pretty much universally agreed in the fandom to be a multiverse, there's no point in arguing against it really.

"Universally" is a strong word. I know I've always considered the connections between Adventure and Tamers (like Ryo and the monster designs) to be more metafictional than multiuniversal, if that makes sense. There's also the matter that a lot of Digimon fans couldn't care less about any canon from Xros Wars or other parts of the franchise they don't like (disclaimer: I can't stand Xros Wars).

As for "App Monsters," like every other entry in the franchise before it I will watch at least the first few episodes and give it a sincere chance, but it's been so long since a new Digimon series made me care about its story and characters that I'm not very optimistic.

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Originally Posted by Astinus
I was just thinking this the other day while shopping. That if Tri had an English release, I could be buying Takeru Digimon merchandise again.

That shows how much more an optimist you are than I am: it hadn't even crossed my mind that Tri might get a dub. It's going to be pretty rad seeing Digimon in a movie theater again! :D (I say that even though "Digimon: The Movie" was an abomination and a huge injustice to Mamoru Hosoda's great work.) I'm guessing that it'll be a much more faithful and direct dub than the Adventure shows/movies got, but they'll probably slip in a few more jokes to make the old dub fans happy.

shadowmoon522 June 29th, 2016 8:12 PM

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Originally Posted by icomeanon6 (Post 9302847)
"Universally" is a strong word. I know I've always considered the connections between Adventure and Tamers (like Ryo and the monster designs) to be more metafictional than multiuniversal, if that makes sense. There's also the matter that a lot of Digimon fans couldn't care less about any canon from Xros Wars or other parts of the franchise they don't like (disclaimer: I can't stand Xros Wars).

first, meta-fiction is fiction in which the author self-consciously alludes to the artificiality or literariness of a work by parodying or departing from novelistic conventions (especially naturalism) and traditional narrative techniques.
like the ending to deadpool kills the marvel universe.
ryo might be the player character in the wonder swan games, but he was never the author
second: for ryo's existence to not be multiversal, would mean that 02 & tri are non-canon. the wonderswan games are not only ryo's back story, but ken's as well.
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Ryo’s Story

So some people were saying how they either didn’t know his story or it was too complicated so I am making this post to attempt to fix that problem. A lof of his story is seen in his appearances in the WonderSwan games. I will try to peice these together cronologically as best as I can. His story starts after Digimon Adventure.
1- Digimon Adventure Anode/Canode Tamer
So let me start by saying that Ryo is supposed to be the same age as Tai and the others. He is also said to live very comfortably. Now for Christmas he got a laptop and used it almost obsessively. One day, Dec. 31st if I recall, the power goes out and his mom asks him to check a fuse box. Before he went though a voice from his computer asked him to take a digivice(which was like the DA). He took it and was transported to the digital world.
In the digital world he meets Agumon(Yup, tai’s Agumon) and tells him a terrible digimon, Millenniummon, had captured the Digi-destined and was causing trouble in the digital world. Ryo at first thought it was a dream from playing too many videogames but eventually he realizes it’s true.
After many battles Ryo defeated Millenniumon and saved the digi-destined, he had formed a bond with them and was sad to leave them. When he returned home his parents felt he was more mature.
^Ryo overusing his laptop. Digimon Adventure 02: Tag Tamers
2-Diaboromon.
Ryo witnessed the battle against Diaboromon on the net. This leads to his next appearance, which highlights one of his most important friendships.
3-Digimon Adventure 02: Tag Tamers
The game starts off with Ryo visiting Ken(the one from 02). They were talking about the battle with Diaboromon when al of a sudden a digimon appears. It was V-mon(The one that would become Davis’). He hands Ryo a D3 and tells him there is another Diaboromon and he needs to fight him. Both Ryo and Ken go to the digital world.
Ryo ended up leaving Ken behind in Primary village with Tai, to find Diaboromon alone. He found him at the top of the spire where Devimon used as a base. The Diaboromon was extremely weak, it was defeated by Veemon(without even digivolving). Suddenly Millenniumon showed up saying the Diaboromon was simply bait to get Ryo again. With that he apparently split the digital world in two using the mountain.
The game splits over to Ken who found wormmon in a forest. The game is not clear as to what happened to Tai at this point. It turned out they were in different sides of the digital world. Ryo eventually got to Millenniumon’s floating continet where Millenniumon stated that Ryo could not beat him alone.
While this was going on Ken found a locked door that contained the Digi Egg of Desire, which responded only to Ryo. When the duo saw the egg they were transported to a barren wasteland that apparently was Millennimmon’s heart. They battled Millenniummon inside and the battle destroyed his body. The digital world returned to normal and Tai reappeared.
But then Millenniumon returned to disperse his dark spores to Ryo. Before they could hit him Ken shoved Ryo out of the way and received them himself(That is how he had them in 02). Millenniumon said his power was eternal, like Ryo’s with a maniacal laugh.
There is a scene later that shows Ken becoming increasingly agressive and shows his eventual fall to becoming the Digimon Emperor.
4-Digimon Adventure 02: D-1 Tamers.
*This game is probably the most important one for the DA kids, since here is when he develops his disliking of them.
The game takes off a few days after the last one. It showed Ryo nursing Ken, trying to understand the effects of the spores. Ken then told Ryo about this quiz online for something called the D1 tournament. After almost finishing the quiz he noticed all the questions were some that only he could answer. He was skeptical but finished it anyway.
When he did, the silhouette of one of the Sovereign appeared and took him into the digital world. He was dragged into a tournament set up by one of the Sovereign. He claimed the other three were evil and were going to try to destroy him. He adressed ryo and the other digidestined saying that the strongest one would partner up with him to fight the evil ones.Ryo partnered up with Agumon, Veemon and Wormmon and fought in the tournament.
The tournament was divided into five stages. The first one was headed by Izzy, the second by Willis, the third by Mimi(who said she would ask him on a date when everything was over), the fourth by Matt and the final one by Tai.
Ryo defeated them all and Tai revealed that the entire tournament was a hoax. He did specify that they did not know that originally, but that they all knew he was going to win since this was really training to fight MoonMillenniummon, a bodyless form of his nemesis. All of the digi-destined apologized but Ryo remained silent through the whole thing and did not want to speak to them. He decided he would not allow himself to be fooled like that by anyone else, and he would remain this way throughout his future appearances.
Ryo traveled to MoonMillenniummon’s lair. There he met his nemesis, who explained that he had revived simply to fight Ryo again, that not even the Holy Beasts were strong enough to defeat him. A battle ensued but Ryo was victorious once again. After he was defeated, MoonMillenniummon revealed that he and Ryo were connected like Yin and Yang, that one could not die without the other. He invited Ryo to travel with him through the worlds of time. Ryo apparently accepted and the lair exploded.
Even though there were many searches everybody considered Ryo dead at that point, the only one who never gave up hope was Ken, but he was already on his way to becoming the Digimon Emperor.
5- Digimon Tamers: Brave Tamer
In this final game Ryo realizes that Millenniummon, now in his most powerful form: ZeedMillenniummon, was trying to control the universe by attacking it during different points in times. Ryo meets Monodramon and befriends a computer called ENIAC.
Through many battles it is revealed that both Monodramon and Millenniummon are Ryo’s true partner. Realizing that he could not be defeated, Monodramon forged a Jogress(DNA digivolution) between the two and they formed a digi-egg. This digi-egg would eventually hatch and digivolve to Cyberdramon.
In the end Ryo was given the choice to return to his world(Adventure) or go to a new world(Tamers). Ryo decided to go to the Tamers world and the game concludes there.
6- Digimon Tamers
I don’t really feel I need to cover that lol.
7- Butterfly RP.
This last portion I wil use to discuss some things about Ryo. Since in our plot we are all in the same universe, I can simply cover that up by saying he would go into a different city. Also he remained 14 since he had been in the digital world all that time with Millenniummon. Ryo still has a deep seated hatred for the people who participated in the D 1 tournament but has a strong affection for his new friends from Tamers, especially Rika.
Ryo unfortunately gets the ‘Mary Sure’ card played on him a lot and it makes sense in some ways, but once you have read the story involving him, you would see that his immense experience in Tamers is a result from his experiences many years before.
I would look forward to him working out his issues with the Adventure crew and maybe develop new friendships, even in Tamers he still had the anti social behavior he had established after the tournament.
Ryo also would never use Monodromon’s champion form. He is still afraid that somehow Millenniummon is hiding out in that form so he would never take the risk. Millenniummon is his ultimate fear as well.

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icomeanon6 June 30th, 2016 6:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shadowmoon522 (Post 9302884)
first, meta-fiction is fiction in which the author self-consciously alludes to the artificiality or literariness of a work by parodying or departing from novelistic conventions (especially naturalism) and traditional narrative techniques.
like the ending to deadpool kills the marvel universe.
ryo might be the player character in the wonder swan games, but he was never the author
second: for ryo's existence to not be multiversal, would mean that 02 & tri are non-canon. the wonderswan games are not only ryo's back story, but ken's as well.
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I'd call that definition pretty narrow, and I'm not sure what you mean by that Ryo was "never the author," as I never implied he was. What I was getting at was that the world of Digimon Tamers was specifically written to reflect our own world in 2001 where Digimon was a popular card game and TV show - this broke a lot of kids' suspension of disbelief for Adventure, and deliberately so. A lot of Tamers works as a commentary on the disconnect between the Digimon in the some of the games who exist only to fight and the Digimon in Adventure who are thinking, feeling creatures who live for reasons beyond fighting. It calls attention to the cognitive dissonance required to enjoy both the TV show and some of the games, so I'd call it pretty meta.

I would recommend this site for some interesting reading on Digimon Tamers: link. It's a collection of notes from the lead writer of Tamers, Chiaki J. Konaka. Here's what he has to say on Ryo, emphases mine:
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Originally Posted by Chiaki J. Konaka
Even before I had joined the Digimon Tamers team, there was a character that had already been destined to appear in the third season of Digimon. This was Ryo, the main character of the WonderSwan Digimon game.

As Ryo was a very popular character in Japan, the plan was to draw him into the TV series, as well. However, since Digimon Tamers has a very different world view and continuity from the previous Digimon series, it was difficult to figure out how to introduce him.

I let Mr. Motoki Yoshimura handle all of Ryo's character development, as Ms. Genki Yoshimura was the screen writer for Ryo's first episode. Ryo's refreshingly confident personality doesn't exactly contradict the character from the WonderSwan game, but I still feel that it made him uniquely part of the Digimon Tamers world.

I think this makes it pretty clear that Konaka wasn't too concerned with what parts of Adventure/02 and the WonderSwan games were canon or not. That would also explain why Ryo has family in the Tamers world when in game canon he was born in the Adventure world: Konaka didn't care about the inconsistency. And there's nothing wrong with an inconsistent canon or a divided canon as long as the individual shows/games make sense on their own. It doesn't make you a bad fan or anything to choose to ignore parts of the greater Digimon canon if they don't work. After all, Konaka kinda did that, and he's the best writer Digimon ever had.


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