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Polar Spectrum September 5th, 2014 4:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srinator (Post 8426735)
knock off too mainstream :P

Fun fact, er - question. Do you know the order in which knock off's effects + power calculation, and Colbur Berry's effects are applied in during damage calculation? What's worse is that it will outspeed most knock off users to get a burn first as well.

So it becomes a burned poke, likely using a non-stab knock off, on a non super effective hit because of the berry.

Here, put it on showdown's calc for anyone who doesn't get it

This is with Mandibuzz' knockoff. Nothing special, it doesn't really have that atk
0- Atk burned Mandibuzz Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Colbur Berry Mismagius: 50-59 (19.1 - 22.6%) -- possible 5HKO

Here's Specially Defensive Drapions
8 Atk burned Drapion Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Colbur Berry Mismagius: 72-86 (27.5 - 32.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

This is the OU Bulky Swords Dance Scizor
44+ Atk burned Scizor Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Colbur Berry Mismagius: 75-89 (28.7 - 34%) -- 2.1% chance to 3HKO

Finally, here's an adamant max attack Bisharp
252+ Atk burned Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Colbur Berry Mismagius: 128-151 (49 - 57.8%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO

None of them will outspeed with knock off, and Bisharp can't sucker punch on will o wisp either. Only max attack bisharp can even do 50% with that.

srinator September 5th, 2014 4:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8426757)
Fun fact, er - question. Do you know the order in which knock off's effects + power calculation, and Colbur Berry's effects are applied in during damage calculation? What's worse is that it will outspeed most knock off users to get a burn first as well.

So it becomes a burned poke, likely using a non-stab knock off, on a non super effective hit because of the berry.

Here, put it on showdown's calc for anyone who doesn't get it

This is with Mandibuzz' knockoff. Nothing special, it doesn't really have that atk
0- Atk burned Mandibuzz Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Colbur Berry Mismagius: 50-59 (19.1 - 22.6%) -- possible 5HKO

Here's Specially Defensive Drapions
8 Atk burned Drapion Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Colbur Berry Mismagius: 72-86 (27.5 - 32.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

This is the OU Bulky Swords Dance Scizor
44+ Atk burned Scizor Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Colbur Berry Mismagius: 75-89 (28.7 - 34%) -- 2.1% chance to 3HKO

Finally, here's an adamant max attack Bisharp
252+ Atk burned Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Colbur Berry Mismagius: 128-151 (49 - 57.8%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO

None of them will outspeed with knock off, and Bisharp can't sucker punch on will o wisp either. Only max attack bisharp can even do 50% with that.

um i think u misunderstood that, by "knock of too mainstream" i wasnt refering to mismagius's non-viability i was referring to why i put aerial over knock off on scizor, albeit in a bad way lol.

Polar Spectrum September 5th, 2014 5:41 AM

Lol derp

Well now I look silly

Makes sense though, and at least you get a 90 bp flying coverage

wolf September 5th, 2014 3:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babaGAReeb (Post 8424789)
i would be 'mewtwo'

Taken.

Quote:

Originally Posted by antemortem (Post 8424949)
Did I claim a Pokemon before?

Drifblim.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zekrom (Post 8425927)
Just confirming that the Zekrom on the list is mine, right?

Yes.

Megan September 6th, 2014 12:21 AM

I'd like tol take Celebi, if I may?

Tsutarja September 6th, 2014 4:52 AM

I still see Snivy as available, right? Is it okay to claim that one? :)

TGM September 6th, 2014 12:59 PM

Put me on as Milotic, if it's not taken pls

babaGAReeb September 6th, 2014 4:18 PM

mewtwo taken?

so bad
i will taking gengar then

Jake♫ September 6th, 2014 8:35 PM

Requesting Heracross because get wrecked.

Seth Rollins September 7th, 2014 10:40 AM

Wolf is it okay if I change Salamence to Mew? Thanks. If it isnt i'll just keep Salamence.

Pendraflare September 8th, 2014 4:26 PM

I'd like Scolipede please, if that's acceptable :P One with a decent set, maybe a Swords Dance set, or Baton Pass, I don't really care but thanks.

Logical Cabbage September 8th, 2014 4:44 PM

Alright! No one called Reshiram! I call dibs on him since Charizard is taken!

Hiatus September 11th, 2014 5:44 PM

I'm not sure if I've claimed before, but I would like to go with Vulpix. If that's already taken, Ninetales will do, haha.

Meganium September 12th, 2014 5:29 PM

I'd like to confirm my selection of Meganium.

Astraea September 13th, 2014 6:19 AM

Venusaur, if taken then arcanine, If that also taken then Nine tales, if that also taken then pignite

wolf September 13th, 2014 7:03 PM

Pokemon can now be claimed by more than one person!

Quote:

Originally Posted by babaGAReeb (Post 8428508)
mewtwo taken?

so bad
i will taking gengar then

Mewtwo is yours now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logical Cabbage (Post 8430851)
Alright! No one called Reshiram! I call dibs on him since Charizard is taken!

You may have Charizard if you would prefer that.

Logical Cabbage September 13th, 2014 7:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf (Post 8436291)
Pokemon can now be claimed by more than one person!

You may have Charizard if you would prefer that.

I think I'm sticking to Reshiram this time though; I love that dragon.

babaGAReeb September 13th, 2014 7:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf (Post 8436291)
Pokemon can now be claimed by more than one person!


Mewtwo is yours now.


You may have Charizard if you would prefer that.

horray! i am Mewtwo!

thanks

Astraea September 14th, 2014 3:53 AM

Wolf, you registered mine, if yes then which pokemon?

Nightanglet September 27th, 2014 2:47 AM

wolf,archeops for me plz
can i have the below custom set?
252 speed,252 attack
jolly nature
Acrobatics
Earthquake
Aqua Tail
Knock Off

KeyRogue September 27th, 2014 4:21 AM

Can I have Rhyperior and a set please.

Terra (Rhyperior) (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Lightningrod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stone Edge
- Stealth Rock
- Megahorn
- Avalanche

KFCutman October 12th, 2014 12:14 PM

I'll have Pupitar with Eviolite, Outrage, Rock Polish, Dragon Dance, and Earthquake

The Undisputed Era October 23rd, 2014 10:19 AM

Pichu for meh plez Wofly.

Life Orb

Volt Tackle - Grass Knot - Toxic - Return

Dark Shadow 6 December 20th, 2014 7:19 AM

Dragonite for me please

dragonite will rock

Lycanthropy December 20th, 2014 7:33 AM

Can I have Aerodactyl please?


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