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pyrexpyramids September 9th, 2014 11:09 AM

Hoopa and Volcanion Distribution
 
So now that Diancie's distribution date has been confirmed, when do you all speculate the other 2 legendaries will be made available?

I'm anticipating something in 2015......perhaps Hoopa first as for a tie in as to why its being distribution I have no idea.

As for Volcanion, I'm guessing by the end of 2015 in conjunction with the release of Pokemon Z if such a thing is to be released?

What are your thoughts on why/when etc they will be released?

Nah September 9th, 2014 11:22 AM

I don't really know, but 2015 is probably a good guess; bring a little interest back to X and Y after the hype of ORAS's release dies down a bit.

All I ask is that they make it a worldwide WiFi distribution and not this serial code **** we've been getting lately.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 9th, 2014 11:48 AM

I have a feeling that the next movie may feature either Zygarde along with the Primals, or Rayquaza, hinting at either Z or Delta Emerald. Unless they break the third version (Delta Emerald would be the third version to ORAS in this context) mascot appears in the second movie of the generation pattern that goes back to Suicune appearing in Pokémon 4Ever.
Anyways with possibly three, or even four key legends there may not be any room for an event mon. However, nearly every movie has featured an event legend with the only ones I can think of that don't being 2 (Lugia interestingly becomes one two generations later (3)) and 3. However there's a chance Jirachi could appear since Mew and Celebi popped up again. Plus this movie ties in with the remakes (by having their mascots) more so than Celebi's second movie.

So maybe Hoopa will be featured in a short tying in with the 2015 movie. Volcanion will probably end the generation (maybe in a movie featuring Deoxys' return but that could also be saved for a 2017 movie) in 2016.

So yeah, 2015 and 2016 sound like the dates those two will be released.

Howmander September 9th, 2014 12:08 PM

I'm just going to go on record as guessing the Volcanion will be the next to be released many months after the release of ORAS because of how weather related it is. (It's fire AND water, so it makes sense to be released for ORAS) and I think Hoopa will be released many months after the release of Pokemon Z

oshimas September 9th, 2014 12:28 PM

maybe I can see these two getting released around the the time the new movie gets announced oooooor, if they decide to release pokemon z. like i'm hoping it's a normal wifi event instead of the region locked serial code thing they've been doing lately. :/

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 9th, 2014 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Howmander (Post 8431604)
I'm just going to go on record as guessing the Volcanion will be the next to be released many months after the release of ORAS because of how weather related it is. (It's fire AND water, so it makes sense to be released for ORAS) and I think Hoopa will be released many months after the release of Pokemon Z

The issue with that is that Hoopa is the next Pokémon in the dex, so it'll likely come before. If they skip Hoopa GF will be pressed to officially reveal that missing spot in the dex (even though those of us who already saw the leaks already know about it).

Controversy September 9th, 2014 1:36 PM

Hoopa will probably be announced and released towards the end of the ORAS cycle in a years time. And Volcanion the next year a few months after Pokemon Z to support it.

Praying to the Lord that they will be wifi events though. We can only hope

Hiatus September 10th, 2014 5:41 PM

Same here; would be great if it were wi-fi. Glad to see that these Pokémon are finally being distributed!

fallkitten September 12th, 2014 11:02 AM

Maybe we can get Hoopa, or Volcanion in ORAS somehow? But the most obvious guess that they would me connected with the movies.

Cyclone September 14th, 2014 7:57 AM

Hoopa will be the Movie 17 star.

Volcanion will be the Movie 18 star, maybe Movie 19 (making Zygarde the Movie 18 star).

Either way, count on it.

Centipede Chan September 14th, 2014 8:09 AM

Now that I think about Pokemon Movies, maybe Volcanion will have something to do with an ORAS movie involving Groudon somehow. Think about it, both are kinda like mountain-y volcano lava looking pokemon, right? I don't usually predict things though, I kinda just wait and play and wait some more.

MarcEddy September 14th, 2014 12:20 PM

I think we will see volcanoian in ORAS

Cyclone September 14th, 2014 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MarcEddy (Post 8437055)
I think we will see volcanoian in ORAS

But then there is a mystery gap in the Pokédex as Hoopa is supposedly #720, and Volcanion #721. They would have to reveal Hoopa first. They won't do Volcanion until the third game ("Z"), I think. Hoopa, meanwhile, might appear around May or June (announced) when the next movie is due in Japan unless there's an anime special involving it.

MarcEddy September 14th, 2014 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyclone (Post 8437072)
But then there is a mystery gap in the Pokédex as Hoopa is supposedly #720, and Volcanion #721. They would have to reveal Hoopa first. They won't do Volcanion until the third game ("Z"), I think. Hoopa, meanwhile, might appear around May or June (announced) when the next movie is due in Japan unless there's an anime special involving it.

Wait... there's a Pokemon Z? Well I also I guess it would make sense to reveal hoopa 2nd since Dianice was 1st. Maybe we will see Volcano in Pokemon Delta Emerald, if the game comes out.

Cyclone September 14th, 2014 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MarcEddy (Post 8437077)
Wait... there's a Pokemon Z? Well I also I guess it would make sense to reveal hoopa 2nd since Dianice was 1st. Maybe we will see Volcano in Pokemon Delta Emerald, if the game comes out.

Notice I quoted "Z". That's just speculation, and what speculation calls it. For all we know, they could go X2/Y2 again. Which, IMO, was dumb in Gen. V and purely profit-driven.

I like Volcanion in Delta Emerald and something with Heatran. But history indicates the third game never gets remade. Of course, we hope otherwise this time; it was the best-selling game in the series.

MarcEddy September 14th, 2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyclone (Post 8437082)
Notice I quoted "Z". That's just speculation, and what speculation calls it. For all we know, they could go X2/Y2 again. Which, IMO, was dumb in Gen. V and purely profit-driven.

B2W2 was probably to buy time for XY. And it also seems like that there will be a Z though since Zygarde has some kind of other forme (i think) and zygrade seems to have a connection with xy

Cyclone September 14th, 2014 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MarcEddy (Post 8437084)
B2W2 was probably to buy time for XY. And it also seems like that there will be a Z though since Zygarde has some kind of other forme (i think) and zygrade seems to have a connection with xy

We know it's coming. But until it's official, it's speculation.

Howmander September 14th, 2014 1:02 PM

I like all the "Z isn't confirmed, they could still do X2 and Y2" speculation, when it not only wouldn't have been named X and Y if a Z wasn't coming, but more importantly I laugh because all the "There's Hoenn remakes coming!" speculation was met with such vitriol and condescension, yet when the remakes were actually announced, all the critics went completely silent! :D

Cyclone September 15th, 2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Howmander (Post 8437103)
I like all the "Z isn't confirmed, they could still do X2 and Y2" speculation, when it not only wouldn't have been named X and Y if a Z wasn't coming, but more importantly I laugh because all the "There's Hoenn remakes coming!" speculation was met with such vitriol and condescension, yet when the remakes were actually announced, all the critics went completely silent! :D

I want to point out that I err on the side of caution. I myself noticed all the signs of Hoenn remakes but also said, "They have to announce it". It's the same here. Deep down, we know they are planning Z. But it's unconfirmed.

And back then, no one saw B2/W2 coming. We expected Gray.

Master K. September 17th, 2014 5:50 PM

You Guys heard of PKHeX and Cyber Gadget correct?

pyrexpyramids September 17th, 2014 6:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Master K. (Post 8440647)
You Guys heard of PKHeX and Cyber Gadget correct?

of course we have. i dont mess with hacks tho. i've only ever hacked pokeballs. i mess with hacked pokemon. def wont be doing it for these event legendaries thats for sure.

Master K. September 20th, 2014 6:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pyrexpyramids (Post 8440723)
of course we have. i dont mess with hacks tho. i've only ever hacked pokeballs. i mess with hacked pokemon. def wont be doing it for these event legendaries thats for sure.

I might just buy a 4.5 3DS and a Gateway cart so I could inject hoopa and Volcanion into My Pokemon X version.

TriforceCourage September 21st, 2014 3:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pyrexpyramids (Post 8431553)
So now that Diancie's distribution date has been confirmed, when do you all speculate the other 2 legendaries will be made available?

I'm anticipating something in 2015......perhaps Hoopa first as for a tie in as to why its being distribution I have no idea.

As for Volcanion, I'm guessing by the end of 2015 in conjunction with the release of Pokemon Z if such a thing is to be released?

What are your thoughts on why/when etc they will be released?

It will probably be a ORAS event, not XY. I doubt that the event will be in 2015. To be honest my guess would be it will probably be the first or second event within ORAS. And why does everyone expect a Pokemon Z version? They dont always make a third game. If anything Sigma Emerald would be thought of first. I honestly dont see Pokemon Z ever happening otherwise they would have already made it instead of ORAS. Anyways back to the subject Hoopa and Volcanion will more then likly be ORAS exclusive with the ability to move them between the XY and ORAS as speculated with all the other pokes and events.

Nah September 21st, 2014 4:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TriforceCourage (Post 8444377)
It will probably be a ORAS event, not XY. I doubt that the event will be in 2015. To be honest my guess would be it will probably be the first or second event within ORAS. And why does everyone expect a Pokemon Z version? They dont always make a third game. If anything Sigma Emerald would be thought of first. I honestly dont see Pokemon Z ever happening otherwise they would have already made it instead of ORAS. Anyways back to the subject Hoopa and Volcanion will more then likly be ORAS exclusive with the ability to move them between the XY and ORAS as speculated with all the other pokes and events.

Wouldn't it be a little weird though for a Pokemon to have it's first event NOT in the region it's a part of? Volcanion and Hoopa are Kalos Pokemon, so shouldn't their first event be in Kalos, not Hoenn?

Also, people expect a Z version because that's what typically happens with the games. There's only been one instance of them not making a 3rd version, and that was last gen with Black2/White2. A Z version (or some other Kalos game) is more likely than an Emerald remake because it's kinda pointless to remake Emerald when we're getting R/S remakes, and they seem to be sticking to the formula more this gen after trying to deviate from it last gen.

Howmander September 21st, 2014 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TriforceCourage (Post 8444377)
It will probably be a ORAS event, not XY. I doubt that the event will be in 2015. To be honest my guess would be it will probably be the first or second event within ORAS. And why does everyone expect a Pokemon Z version? They dont always make a third game. If anything Sigma Emerald would be thought of first. I honestly dont see Pokemon Z ever happening otherwise they would have already made it instead of ORAS. Anyways back to the subject Hoopa and Volcanion will more then likly be ORAS exclusive with the ability to move them between the XY and ORAS as speculated with all the other pokes and events.

Lol, none of that makes any sense in regards to justifiying no Pokemon Z:

1) Yes, they've ALWAYS made a 3rd version, and in the case of Black and White, they made a 3rd AND 4th version (Black 2, White 2)

2) Why would they make an Emerald remake? THAT'S where they've never done a third game in the series: The remakes of Fire Red and Leaf Green never had a Yellow version, the remakes of Heart Gold and Soul Silver never had a Crystal remake.

3) WHY would they have made Pokemon Z already? Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire came out, THEN Fire Red and leaf Green THEN Emerald. They didn't release Emerald before the remakes, so why would they release Z before teh remakes now?

4) Remember all the people that said there were clues for the Hoeen remakes and everyone ridiculed and dismissed their claims until they actually WERE announced?

5) They wouldn't have called the games X and Y if there was going to be no Z, otherwise the games would have been called Y and Z. Contrary to what people think, they don't just wake up one weekend and bang out a full pokemon game and ship it out monday, the games take a VERY long time before they're made, and they plan quite a long time in advance before they make the games, so they knew exactly what games they were going to be making before they even announced publicly when X and Y were coming out. X and Y were announced a year before it hit store shelves, Smash Brothers same deal, especially when all the pokemon games in a given generation need to be compatible with each other, they all need to be planned out to ensure compatibility. Why else would the mega evolved versions of Latios and Latias be in the current games' programming if they hadn't already planned them long before the ORAS remakes were ever announced?


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