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Should X and Y get an update?
One thing we haven't gotten any word on yet is if a patch will be released for X and Y making it possible to trade over the new mega stones. In past games, when a new game came out in the same generation with a new form, users of the older games would not be able to use (or even see in battle) these new pokemon. But with X and Y, they have the ability to make updates. They've already released 3 in order to fix some bugs.
They refused to make any DLC for X and Y because they wanted it to be a fair and complete game for everyone. Will they hold on to these morals and let people who don't buy the new games have a level playing field with everyone else? What are your thoughts? Would you like an update for X and Y? Discuss away! |
Ninja'd! I think they will because if you battle with someone with, let's say, Mega Pidgeot, X and Y will try to load an unexisting model, thus crashing the game. Plus, it'd make it good to pick up a Pidgey, Weedle, Slowpoke, Audino and other such Pokémon obtainable early on in the games in either a regular run or a Nuzlocke.
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Most likely an update will occur via Nintendo Wifi by the time of the release.
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Someone needs to make a sticky topic on the specs of a 3DS. the 3DS is not capable of rewriting the data of a physical game cartridge. it WOULD be possible for digital only copies of games, absolutely, it would be just like an app on a smartphone or tablet where the overall program is replaced by the new one (basically) but the 3DS does not have the ability to rewrite data on a physical game card.
The patches and corrections that have been released are to fix programming errors within the 3Ds or how the 3Ds interprets data from the game or online. They can't add whole data into the game in the form of new pokemon, items, and so forth. Now, the fact that Torchic with it's Blazikenite being available from day one should be a very clear indication that the data for all the items and mega evolutions is ALREADY in teh game data. (Since it was given out to everyone with either game, there was no need to go through the data to look for where the Blazikenite was stored and Hello? Mega Latios and Latias? :-) ) Just because the hackers haven't found the location of all the data doesn't mean it's not there. Look how many months it took for them to discover the shiny forms of Xernes, Yveltal and Zygarde. If it was that easy to get all the data, they would have released the shiny forms at the same time they discovered Diancie, Volcanion and Hoopa. You make the claim: Quote:
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I'm sure they will update X and Y when we get closer to Ruby and Sapphires release :)
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Maybe we need to sent the physical copies in like when you wanted the Eon Ticket in RS to receive theupdate. For Digital copies you can probably just update them. Nintendo has always been fair so I think there Will be an update!
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This is something that i'm sure was addressed before - people have said there will probably be an XY patch that will allow them to see the ORAS Mega Evolutions without problems. But will it allow them for use in those games? I would imagine they'll at least be legit for Wi-Fi battles.
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I don't see why not, it would be foolish not too. I mean X and Y is still relatively new and Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire uses the same engine as Pokemon X and Y so I don't think we'll have a problem guys ^_^
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I think they'll likely update the games with a patch that'll allow the use of the OR/AS Mega Evolutions. It'd be kinda stupid if they didn't update X/Y because that would make them severely inferior to OR/AS if that's the case.
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I have to agree with everyone else; an update will likely occur. Without it, almost all mega-evolutions introduced in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire probably won't be compatible. Kind of glad about it, too, to be honest; if they'd included their data beforehand like Mega-Latis, hackers would have found them and revealed their info, and by then, none of those mega-forms would have been considered to be special by us (well, at least some). It's a good strategy, I believe!
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They'll probably get out a patch by that time! They've clearly been making an effort to have backwards compatibility between XY and ORAS, considering that they're gonna allow XY in tournaments still. (At least that's what I heard!)
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We're updating and have to use the newer software to compete. Makes sense to do it this way and leave the older games obsolete. Quote:
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I don't believe this would do them (or us, as fans) any good, considering that X and Y are current-gen, but am definitely intrigued to see how they go about all of that.
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My view on updating XY, is that if you used the updated content on one 3DS, and then tried to use a 3DS that didn't have the update, there would be problems. I don't think that they want to not update, I think they can't update.
Oh, also, there's no reason that XY shouldn't be able to battle with ORAS. You could use Pokemon in new forms in Platinum and B2W2 when battling with other games from that gen, you just couldn't see the different form. My guess is that new megas will show mega animation but look the same on XY so that they know that it happened. |
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Even though I wish they would it's already been confirmed that they will not update so we are out of luck.
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The animation is not the problem. A lot of the new mega's have new abilities that we don't have in X and Y. I hope that intervieuw was fake. I mean what are you gonna do in battle spot with pokémon with new abilities?
edit: Also there are new moves. Maybe the new moves and ability's are in the data and the hackers just haven't found it yet. |
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Sceptile - Lightning Rod (is in X and Y) Swampert - Swift Swim (is in X and Y) Slowbro - Shell Armor (is in X and Y) Sharpedo - Strong Jaw (is in X and Y) Camerupt - Sheer Force (is in X and Y) Salamence - Aerilate (is in X and Y) Sableye - MAgic Bounce (is in X and Y) Metagross - Tough Claws (is in X and Y) Lopunny - Scrappy (is in X and Y) Gallade - Inner Focus (is in X and Y) Diancie - MAgic Bounce (is in X and Y) Altaria - Pixilate (is in X and Y) Pidgeot - No Guard (is in X and Y) Beedril - Adapatibility (is in X and Y) [email protected] - Levitate (is not only in X and Y, but is their normal ability anyway) Now, as for the weather Trio, yes, THOSE could be the situation with abilities, but one thing everyone is grossly overlooking is if the data for those mega evolutions and abilities for Rayquaza, Groudon and Kyogre are NOT currently coded into the games (which I still say since Mega [email protected] is in the coding, why wouldn't these ones be in too?) then battling between X and Y and Ruby and Sapphire would have to not be allowed. How can current games interpret data from another game if it's not currently in the game already? Yes the interview said there would be no patch, and I still say it's because the data is already in the games. Otherwise they would HAVE to restrict trading and battling between the Kalos and Hoenn games and why would they do that? The whole point of the games are trading and battling. (and again, there's coding in the game for Soul Dews so why would that and the data for Mega Latios and LAtias be in the game currently if you can't trade pokemon from and to Hoenn?) Now, ofcourse it defintiely IS possible that they won't be compatible for a handful fo these pokemon between the games (I still think it's unlikely, how would you moderate something like that?) after all, they didn't allow Pokebank to trade or hold items for a reason, and this very well could be the reason (since all they need to do is simply not allow trade of Mega Stones from Hoenn to Kalos games to prevent compatibilitiy issues) its all very possible, but I still choose to believe they wouldn't have done that because, again, look at all teh problems it would cause for, what, 10 mega evolutions or so? it seems very unlikely to me. (and really, if the hackers were so great, how come they can't figure out what the Ghost Girl was looking for via alternate text associated with the NPC, or checking to see what the character may or may not have been checking for in the party or game progress or whatever?) EDIT: and yeah, the problem WOULD be the animation, you keep forgetting that teh game is not digital for everyone, some people have it on their SD cards (which absolutely could be replaced) but others have a physical game which cannot be overwritten by the 3DS so how would a game that's reading completely from a physical cartridge suddenly start reading from the SD card and start mixing data between the two simultaneously? The game can't even handle 5 Roselias without slowing down hwo is it possibly going to handle reading data for a pokemon that doesn't exist from teh SD card while running the rest of the game from the cartridge? What if the SD card got removed, would the mega evolution be replaced by Missing No? Seriously, Patches are completely different things than downloadable data. (heck, 75% of the "Downloadable" data for games is simply unlocks of data already in the game. Look at New Super Mario Bros 2, the game came with 10 unlockable levels and no more. Look at Animal Crossing, it's supposedly full of downloadable items, but all the possible items that can be obtained were in lists and strategy guides from the day the game came out. If "patches" were downloadable data there wouldn't be limited slots for items and data, there would be unlimited stuff all the time. (This applies to cartridge games as consoles cannot overwrite data on cartridges. I'm nto referring to disc based games as those are different) |
I hope the lack of update means we get a new Kalos game. Then I wouldn't care about X and Y not having the new Megas since everyone would have the new games anyway.
Howmander could be right, but I don't think it's the case since the hackers would've found the code ages ago. They were very quick to hack the ORAS demo. |
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They would rather make X & Y 2 and get some money.
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In an interview with Junichi Masuda it has already been confirmed that there won't be a new patch for the X and Y games; regarding to receive the new Mega Stones in these games from ORAS, for example.
They will make the games compatible somehow, but it won't be possible to battle with, let's say Mega Glalie or Mega Pidgeot in Kalos. I think the main focus from now on will be more and more on the upcoming ORAS games, rather than to keep "updating" Pokemon X and Y. In general I don't think they should keep updating these games anyway, because new games will still be made eventually (that would take the fun out of those), plus; they won't have an excuse to develop more Pokemon games I think :3 And besides, this gives them an excuse to develop a (hopefully) 'maybe'-sequel to the X and Y games in the future :D So we just need to be happy with what we've got now ^_^ there is enough to do in these games already anyway, and soon we will be playing ORAS :D |
Well it seems it's official. Look at this from serebii. http://serebii.net/omegarubyalphasapphire/compatibility.shtml
It seems most things are not supported and so we wouldn't be able to even use the new mega's. |
If we're not getting an update, I'd think they'd just make it like in generation 5. You can use the new primal forms, abilities, and new moves, but X/Y users will just see the normal forms and similar moves/abilities. It's disappointing that they're making X/Y obsolete after only a year, but understandable when thinking money-wise. Not allowing users of the new games to use the new features doesn't make sense from any view. Did they give any sources on Serebii? I haven't spent much time on there, so I don't know who can edit the pages or if it's possible someone was just putting speculation up.
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I still think it's unfair that they won't give us the update even though the game can handle it.
But anyways I won a free copy of Pokemon X! I'm back guys!! |
This does make things pretty awkward. I mean, I don't battle competitively per se but i'm still pretty disappointed with their decision here.
But whatever they do with the next Kalos game (if they even make one, which I hope they do), i'm sure it'll support what gets introduced in this round. |
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Of course XY should get an update, I'm sure XY can handle them. But Game Freak didn't create any patches for the OrAs introduced Megas, Primal revisions and other few things, They are no different than forcing the crowd to move on to OrAs.
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As much as I would like an update, I don't think they should. One thing that some people should realise is that if we added more and more content, the game would probably crash. The 3DS cannot handle every single thing it does. Not only that, but I'm sure that in ORAS, all of the Mega Evolutions are obtainable, as they'll take up more space than the stuff that X and Y has shown. (e.g., Friend Safari, the Looker side-quest, etc.)
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It's not as though you'd be missing out on much without the Primal Formes, which are without a doubt going to debut in ban lists on both VGC and Smogon rulesets.
I'm of the mindset that there will be a 3rd Kalos game that bridges all 4 of the previous 6th gen releases. Most of the Pokemon franchise's strength seems to be in its games these days, so Game Freak will do what it can to build demand for the next release. This is the most obvious incipient demand. |
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