The PokéCommunity Forums

The PokéCommunity Forums (https://www.pokecommunity.com/index.php)
-   Previous Generations (https://www.pokecommunity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=200)
-   -   6th Gen The Battle Frontier (https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=338554)

uponelevel November 12th, 2014 11:55 AM

The Battle Frontier
 
The Battle Frontier has not been seen in a pokemon game for about 4 years. However, now with ORAS coming out we could be seeing it once again. However what I am wondering (and really the whole point of making this thread is) If we do see the Battle Frontier again, will we see any differences from the original? And also, would we be seeing the Hoenn's Battle Frontier or Sinnoh/Jhoto's?

ShadowEdge November 12th, 2014 12:14 PM

what is the battle frontier? I never heard of it before and I played all the pokemon games.

seriously I went online on gamefaqs and that is all anyone is asking about. What is so good about it?

ggctuk November 12th, 2014 12:37 PM

Here's what the Battle Frontier is.

uponelevel November 12th, 2014 3:07 PM

The Battle Frontier is this area that you can access after beating the game (first appeared in Crystal, but the more notable appearance was in Emerald, Platinum and HGSS) It basically was a place where you could battle, but it had different rules that made things interesting. Like Rental Pokemon where you had to use rental pokemon. Or battle Arcade where you would spin a roulette and get different effects, or just other stuff.

BriCKson November 12th, 2014 3:14 PM

Well a big question I wonder is if you'll still get BP from the pokebank like we do now? I can't stand doing battle frontier for BP lol...

uponelevel November 12th, 2014 3:19 PM

True that. I have trouble with competitive battling, so I really couldn't get any BP when I played the HGSS battle frontier. so hopefully Gamefreak still let's us use the pokemon link (aka the thing where you can get BP from Pokemon Bank).

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 12th, 2014 5:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uponelevel (Post 8496234)
The Battle Frontier is this area that you can access after beating the game (first appeared in Crystal, but the more notable appearance was in Emerald, Platinum and HGSS) It basically was a place where you could battle, but it had different rules that made things interesting. Like Rental Pokemon where you had to use rental pokemon. Or battle Arcade where you would spin a roulette and get different effects, or just other stuff.

The Battle Frontier first appeared in Emerald. Crystal was the first to have the Battle Tower and that was it, no mention of a Frontier at all.
Anyways the original one from Emerald had Seven unlike Sinnoh/Johto's Five.

uponelevel November 12th, 2014 6:14 PM

oh right, lol. Sorry for the mistake :p

oshimas November 12th, 2014 7:08 PM

i remember seeing somewhere on smogon that the people saw in the coding of the demo something called the battle island, could it be similar to the battle frontier.

cmtthws92 November 12th, 2014 7:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oshimas (Post 8496381)
i remember seeing somewhere on smogon that the people saw in the coding of the demo something called the battle island, could it be similar to the battle frontier.

Actually it was called the battle resort.

And also I read somewhere that after Smogon hacked the demo they said there are 5 facilities in the resort (I forgot where the link is). The first four deal with a specific type (Fairy, Ground, Grass, and Bug) while the other is the Battle Maison.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 12th, 2014 7:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmtthws92 (Post 8496389)
Actually it was called the battle resort.

And also I read somewhere that after Smogon hacked the demo they said there are 5 facilities in the resort (I forgot where the link is). The first four deal with a specific type (Fairy, Ground, Grass, and Bug) while the other is the Battle Maison.

I hope that isn't the case in the final product. If it is then I'll like to see Delta Emerald become a thing...

Controversy November 13th, 2014 3:29 AM

Imma need the Fronteir to return and at the very least have Lucy's Seviper Pike facility make an appearance. I spent so much time going through that facility in Emerald, truely the best one out of any of the Fronteirs in all the games

Altius November 13th, 2014 4:36 AM

I really hope the Battle Maison does not return. That thing is just as good as a washed down battle tower.

If I remember correctly, wasn't there an image of the Battle Chateau background in some scan (CoroCoro I believe, but it was an older issue)? My guess is one of the facilities will be the Battle Chateau.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 13th, 2014 9:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AltiusX (Post 8496702)
I really hope the Battle Maison does not return. That thing is just as good as a washed down battle tower.

If I remember correctly, wasn't there an image of the Battle Chateau background in some scan (CoroCoro I believe, but it was an older issue)? My guess is one of the facilities will be the Battle Chateau.

That may have been the Restraunt in Mauville the tv person mentions in the Demo.

Vinny Vidi Vici November 13th, 2014 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oshimas (Post 8496381)
i remember seeing somewhere on smogon that the people saw in the coding of the demo something called the battle island, could it be similar to the battle frontier.

Yes and also also the Battle Frontier music was in the coding of the demo or something like that, so I think it's fair to say there will be some sort of post-game akin to the Emerald Battle Frontier. The two facilities I really hope they keep in some form are the Battle Factory and the Battle Pyramid. I really enjoyed the Battle Frontier but it wouldn't break my heart if the gimmicky things like the Battle Arena, Palace and Pike remained exclusively on Emerald.

CalzoneCannon November 13th, 2014 2:25 PM

If anything, I want to see the return of the Battle Dome. It was my favourite of the facilities because of it's tournament battle style. It's the closest thing I get to the anime version of the Pokemon League in the games.

MarinoKadame November 13th, 2014 2:30 PM

I hope Anabel is coming back.

Vinny Vidi Vici November 13th, 2014 2:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CalzoneCannon (Post 8497125)
If anything, I want to see the return of the Battle Dome. It was my favourite of the facilities because of it's tournament battle style. It's the closest thing I get to the anime version of the Pokemon League in the games.

The Battle Dome was cool and I enjoyed the bracket format as well as it generally meant you faced tougher teams the further you went, however instead of bringing 3 pokemon and choosing 2 for each battle, I think it would be better if it were the Battle Spot format of bringing 6 and choosing 3. And then for doubles you could have the VGC format of bringing 6 and choosing 4.

Damn it, now I'm getting super excited thinking of all the possibilities {XD}

CalzoneCannon November 13th, 2014 4:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinny Vidi Vici (Post 8497155)
The Battle Dome was cool and I enjoyed the bracket format as well as it generally meant you faced tougher teams the further you went, however instead of bringing 3 pokemon and choosing 2 for each battle, I think it would be better if it were the Battle Spot format of bringing 6 and choosing 3. And then for doubles you could have the VGC format of bringing 6 and choosing 4.

Damn it, now I'm getting super excited thinking of all the possibilities {XD}

Same here, it would be great practice for VGC in that case!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 13th, 2014 4:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinny Vidi Vici (Post 8496929)
Yes and also also the Battle Frontier music was in the coding of the demo or something like that, so I think it's fair to say there will be some sort of post-game akin to the Emerald Battle Frontier. The two facilities I really hope they keep in some form are the Battle Factory and the Battle Pyramid. I really enjoyed the Battle Frontier but it wouldn't break my heart if the gimmicky things like the Battle Arena, Palace and Pike remained exclusively on Emerald.

Which version? If it's the Platinum and HeartGold and SoulSilver Frontier...well the Maison's theme is a remix of that one.

ShadowSlashz November 14th, 2014 10:23 AM

Well I hope the emerald frontier returns just renamed as the resort with the battle maison added in!
it could just be a rename of battle frontier or there could be 2 areas battle frontier and battle resort?


other things have been renamed like secret bases to super secret bases etc.


My only hope is for Lucy of the battle pike to return!


Please Gamefreak!

Sceptile90 November 14th, 2014 11:17 AM

Well, from the new trailer, we see that we battle Deoxys in space, AKA the Final Frontier.

Wait.

Battle Deoxys in the Final Frontier.

Battle Frontier.

Battle Frontier in space confirmed. (Zeta/Omicron did it)

CalzoneCannon November 14th, 2014 2:53 PM

What if... Nintendo added fake stuff into the demo because they knew people would hack into it to leak stuff early, and half of the stuff leaked is actually fake. We might have the normal Battle Frontier back, and they just through an illusion in there.

Cerberus87 November 14th, 2014 3:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uponelevel (Post 8496234)
The Battle Frontier is this area that you can access after beating the game (first appeared in Crystal, but the more notable appearance was in Emerald, Platinum and HGSS) It basically was a place where you could battle, but it had different rules that made things interesting. Like Rental Pokemon where you had to use rental pokemon. Or battle Arcade where you would spin a roulette and get different effects, or just other stuff.

The first appearance of the Frontier was in Emerald. Crystal had only the Battle Tower.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 14th, 2014 5:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CalzoneCannon (Post 8497965)
What if... Nintendo added fake stuff into the demo because they knew people would hack into it to leak stuff early, and half of the stuff leaked is actually fake. We might have the normal Battle Frontier back, and they just through an illusion in there.

Maybe they only left some parts of the Frontier in there, like the name Battle Resort. Similar to how Zinnia's info was in the Demo but nothing about Episode Delta itself seemed to have been in the coding.

blue November 15th, 2014 5:06 AM

Apparently Battle Points can be obtained. I'm not sure if this is just for the Battle Facility or from the new Battle Court in Mauville City, but iirc you received BPs from the Battle Frontier in Emerald.

janejane6178 November 15th, 2014 8:31 AM

i never understood why pp loved battle frontier that much.. it was kinda boring for me

cmtthws92 November 15th, 2014 9:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janejane6178 (Post 8498651)
i never understood why pp loved battle frontier that much.. it was kinda boring for me

Because it gave trainers more options to battle in Emerald than just a plain Battle Tower in Ruby and Sapphire.

janejane6178 November 15th, 2014 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmtthws92 (Post 8498711)
Because it gave trainers more options to battle in Emerald than just a plain Battle Tower in Ruby and Sapphire.

yes but whats so fun about just battling npc's without any plot going on..

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 15th, 2014 10:34 AM

The plot ends practically after defeating the evil team, and if we're lucky we get some post game side story. So the Battle Frontier gives us something to do with all the post game training. Also the Emerald Frontier is by far more fun than the Sinnoh/Johto one (you know just saying incase you haven't played the Emerald one considering the numbers that did are going down as older fans are replaced by new fans).

CalzoneCannon November 15th, 2014 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janejane6178 (Post 8498739)
yes but whats so fun about just battling npc's without any plot going on..

What's so fun about beating Gym Leaders in that case?

janejane6178 November 15th, 2014 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CalzoneCannon (Post 8498785)
What's so fun about beating Gym Leaders in that case?

beating a gym leader is a part of the plot.. and it lets u go on further in the game, unlike battling without any goal

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 15th, 2014 11:51 AM

Why even continue to play the game post game in that case? Or even after defeating the evil team for that matter as the plot practically ends there? The BF at least gives us something to do with our Pokemon after the plot ends.

CalzoneCannon November 15th, 2014 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janejane6178 (Post 8498807)
beating a gym leader is a part of the plot.. and it lets u go on further in the game, unlike battling without any goal

The goal is to collect the Frontier Symbols and complete the collection, like completing the Pokedex. You could also earn BP to trade for prizes. It's not pointless and it was fun for people who had a goal in mind.

Cerberus87 November 15th, 2014 12:24 PM

If they think about bringing back the extreme hax AI of the Frontier I'd rather not see it.

sCr45h November 15th, 2014 12:29 PM

I really hope that Emerald's BF is added to OR and AS. More specifically, the Battle Dome! I use to love that place. If not I'll have my fingers crossed for a Delta Emerald...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 15th, 2014 1:12 PM

The facilities are always Hax...XY's Battle Maison takes it to the extreme...

Cerberus87 November 15th, 2014 1:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sCr45h (Post 8498880)
I really hope that Emerald's BF is added to OR and AS. More specifically, the Battle Dome! I use to love that place. If not I'll have my fingers crossed for a Delta Emerald...

Yeah, because it's totally a good idea to remake a game just because of a certain battle facility when ORAS already add to the Rayquaza mythos more than Emerald ever had.

ShadowSlashz November 15th, 2014 1:46 PM

1 Attachment(s)
I wonder what facility they ment?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 15th, 2014 2:41 PM

@ Cerberus Well those of us who were for Hoenn remakes mainly wanted them to re-experience the region in new graphics even though we could obtain all of the Hoenn Pokemon from XY and previous generations, and RSE are still playable unlike RGBYGSC(which had inferior batteries compared to RSE) as long as one has a GBA or a pre-DSi version of the DS.)

Cerberus87 November 15th, 2014 4:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8498994)
@ Cerberus Well those of us who were for Hoenn remakes mainly wanted them to re-experience the region in new graphics even though we could obtain all of the Hoenn Pokemon from XY and previous generations, and RSE are still playable unlike RGBYGSC(which had inferior batteries compared to RSE) as long as one has a GBA or a pre-DSi version of the DS.)

Seriously, you Hoenn fans are already getting a pair of games with the kickass 3DS graphics, more features (e.g. Mega Evolutions) than in the main games of the generation (Kalos), and an expanded Rayquaza subplot that wasn't even present in Emerald where Rayquaza himself was the star. What more could you possibly want?

I was answering to an earlier comment who suggested remaking Emerald due to possible lack of Frontier in ORAS.

Though I guess the Delta Episode opens up possibilities for dual remakes of DP as well, since they could, and would, shoehorn Giratina's story into them as easily as they have done with Rayquaza and ORAS (creating something better, since the Rayquaza plot in Emerald wasn't very developed although it was part of the main storyline).

People are hopeful for the Frontier, but, will the game suck without it? IMO it will be good either way. I guess I just don't care since I've never played the Frontier much in both of its iterations (3rd and 4th gen). I found the PWT much cooler.

Pendraflare November 15th, 2014 4:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowSlashz (Post 8498936)
I wonder what facility they ment?

If i'm not mistaken, that guy is the same Backpacker who gives you the Strange Souvenir, which is not in any region we've heard of. So I don't know about you, but that guy may have been talking about another region (like Marriland has been speculating).

And i'm with Cerberus on the fact that the game won't need the Battle Frontier to be good, because the Resort i'm sure will be at least something similar to it. But you know what? I couldn't give less of a flying fudge if the Battle Frontier isn't present, not that i'm intentionally trashing it but I think people take the thought of it not being in the game way out of proportion.

GhostTrainer November 15th, 2014 4:41 PM

I honestly don't care if it returns. I don't think it'll make the game suck if it's not in it. If it's in the game cool, but if it's not okay whatever.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 15th, 2014 5:00 PM

It just won't feel like the remake I hoped for if it lacks the Frontier...most as Emerald was my first game...which explains my mention of Delta Emerald maybe happening if they don't do the frontier...
Maybe they could bring back the Frontier but retcon the Tower to the Maison with Anabel still as the brain, then by Z the frontier could've moved to Kalos.

Poke_Spirit November 15th, 2014 5:05 PM

Likewise Juan wont make appearance based on the demo.. so unless the full game has more changes..but most probably it would be battle island.. since the area is also an island..

CalzoneCannon November 15th, 2014 5:05 PM

They could even turn the Battle Frontier into some sort of Post game plot. I'd like to see the Frontier Brains become something within the main plot or post game plot.

Hiatus November 15th, 2014 7:04 PM

I can't speak for others, but personally, I feel it'd be great if Frontier Brains were to appear throughout the game from location-to-location, making you feel more familiar and whatnot.

In Emerald when first meeting these people, things felt sort of... unnatural, so to speak. These guys are special, as they have their own sprites and whatnot, and since they are, I believe it would be best if they were treated as such and were put into larger role and whatnot, rather than their usual meet-greet-battle position. Not sure how much sense I'm making here, but I hope we're able to understand what I'm attempting to get through!

Of course, people such as Elite Four don't tend to appear before battling them initially, but some do (Flint in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, for example), so if they were to stick by this for Frontier Brains as well, I believe it'd have much more of a stronger touch on players overall.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 15th, 2014 7:29 PM

It would be nice to see at least one. Irc Pearl's father appeared outside of his facility in Pt at least once. I would like to see Wally at the Frontier or whatever ends up taking it's spot. I kept picturing him as being lonely at victory road... plus the climate is nicer.

Hikamaru November 16th, 2014 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8499213)
It would be nice to see at least one. Irc Pearl's father appeared outside of his facility in Pt at least once. I would like to see Wally at the Frontier or whatever ends up taking it's spot. I kept picturing him as being lonely at victory road... plus the climate is nicer.

That would actually not be a bad idea. I could picture the rematches against him being at this so-called "Battle Resort" as opposed to the dark caves of Victory Road.

Mark Kamill November 17th, 2014 3:56 AM

Its likely now the Battle Resort found in the datamine. I still maintain the idea that its outside of Hoenn, as we have nowhere in Hoenn that contains a facility which hands out Battle Points, which are found in-game as per the trainer card. Unless of course the Battle Institute is in Mauville, which in that case I'm stumped as hell.

CalzoneCannon November 17th, 2014 4:25 AM

I wonder if Caitlyn will return since she is part of the Unova Elite Four now. That could be one of the reasons the whole BF isn't coming back.

Altius November 18th, 2014 4:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CalzoneCannon (Post 8500531)
I wonder if Caitlyn will return since she is part of the Unova Elite Four now. That could be one of the reasons the whole BF isn't coming back.

If ORAS were to follow the timeline as RSE, Caitlyn will probably still be in the Battle Frontier because the PtHGSS storyline (which is 2 years after RSE) is supposed to happen before BW/2 when she became an E4 member.

Though I won't want to see those old faces if the Battle Frontier is a reality. I want Emerald faces.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 18th, 2014 7:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Stud Muffin (Post 8500513)
Its likely now the Battle Resort found in the datamine. I still maintain the idea that its outside of Hoenn, as we have nowhere in Hoenn that contains a facility which hands out Battle Points, which are found in-game as per the trainer card. Unless of course the Battle Institute is in Mauville, which in that case I'm stumped as hell.

What do you mean? The Battle Tower gave out BP in the original RS. Also the Battle Frontier in Emerald did too...they could just make the island bigger and more like a resort. Btw apparently the island is out of the calling area...at least when calling Scott, so the original island could fit that anyways xD.

Mewtwolover November 18th, 2014 7:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cerberus87 (Post 8498876)
If they think about bringing back the extreme hax AI of the Frontier I'd rather not see it.

This. In Emerald, it was pretty easy to hax back but doing it in ORAS might be a lot harder.

Mark Kamill November 18th, 2014 7:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 8501524)
What do you mean? The Battle Tower gave out BP in the original RS. Also the Battle Frontier in Emerald did too...they could just make the island bigger and more like a resort. Btw apparently the island is out of the calling area...at least when calling Scott, so the original island could fit that anyways xD.

The island that its in RSE is on map here, and there is nothing there.

Anyway, major ****storm this way comes. Battle Maison found with a 2nd Daycare apparently by a reviewer, and NPCs apparently imply that the frontier is being built. Day 1 Patch for ultimate surprise?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire November 18th, 2014 7:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Stud Muffin (Post 8501535)
The island that its in RSE is on map here, and there is nothing there.

Anyway, major ****storm this way comes. Battle Maison found with a 2nd Daycare apparently by a reviewer, and NPCs apparently imply that the frontier is being built. Day 1 Patch for ultimate surprise?

Maybe they are building the frontier on the island but won't show it on the map until later?
Not surprised about the Battle Maison reappearing tbh. Also it'll be an Update or DLC, Patches are meant to fix issues. The idea of a update/DLC upon release seems like a good idea to me, some companies ship out broken games (on purpose to hurt those who pirate or get the street date broken one), this could be GF's version, but nicer.

Mark Kamill November 18th, 2014 7:51 AM

Update/DLC/Patch, same thing. I can only assume a DLC would update the version number, making it mandatory to play online, thus not locking users out. I can only assume what would be the new Battle Resort would also be pretty big for them to have us download, maybe they also will throw in some new Megas all over Hoenn? I seriously am considering the idea that the leaks forced their hands in using Day 1 updates to make sure nothing gets spoiled.

UnchainedGoku November 19th, 2014 3:21 AM

Looks Like The Battle Frontier Won't Be Back In ORAS :( Could Be DLC
 
Oh dear here we go, a reviewer who managed to get his hand on a review copy of the games from Nintendo tweeted earlier that there will be no Battle Frontier in ORAS, the Battle Maison and a second Day Care Center are there but the in game NPC's do mention the Battle Frontier as if it could still come, which could mean we may see it as DLC..... This is by no means confirmed but with only 3 days left until the games come out I'm sure we would have heard something by now, coupled with the fact he had to delete the tweet too. Well this is one feature I really hoped we would see again obviously I'm dissapointed, but I like the idea of it maybe being DLC it could help expand the games life-cycle, oh I dunno, you guys decide.

Source:
Youtube User pdwinnall

Sorry guys I'm new here I can't post links :(

Odyssey November 19th, 2014 3:25 AM

Words cannot express how disappointed I am... the Battle Frontier is one of my all-time favourite features of Pokémon.

I'm also kind of disappointed with the lack of Battle Tower. I know that ORAS is pretty much XY, but with different graphics and models, but at least put some more homage to the originals. :< Eh, I hope the post-game is worth something, at least.

UnchainedGoku November 19th, 2014 3:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odyssey (Post 8502443)
Words cannot express how disappointed I am... the Battle Frontier is one of my all-time favourite features of Pokémon.

I'm also kind of disappointed with the lack of Battle Tower. I know that ORAS is pretty much XY, but with different graphics and models, but at least put some more homage to the originals. :< Eh, I hope the post-game is worth something, at least.

I'm with you on that, but it could still be DLC, I hope.....

Hikamaru November 19th, 2014 3:44 AM

But I thought downloadable content wasn't going to be a thing? Still, I can express how disappointed some people were but let's just remember it was initially an Emerald-only feature and wasn't exactly in Ruby & Sapphire, which these remakes seem to follow more closely than Emerald.

Polar Spectrum November 19th, 2014 3:58 AM

As long as it has more endgame than X/Y, I can get over this - sad as it is.

Hikamaru November 19th, 2014 4:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Spectrum (Post 8502462)
As long as it has more endgame than X/Y, I can get over this - sad as it is.

The IGN Review (aka the one which said "too much water") did say there was a good amount of postgame stuff so there might still be hope that what they are saying are true.

Princess Diana November 19th, 2014 4:30 AM

That's really disappointing, especially considering they made a whole anime series revolving around it. :( Hoenn's Battle Frontier has been the best. The one's that came after were just pale imitations. :(

I pray there is DLC (hopefully not day 1 though, maybe a few weeks after the European release/just before Christmas!) that includes it

UnchainedGoku November 19th, 2014 4:55 AM

If true though the Battle Frontier DLC would be the first ever Pokemon DLC what do you guys think of that?

UnchainedGoku November 19th, 2014 5:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 8502470)
The IGN Review (aka the one which said "too much water") did say there was a good amount of postgame stuff so there might still be hope that what they are saying are true.

Hoenn haters be mad lol I hated that review, people still stuck on Hoenn has too much water after 10 years, I think the water is what makes Hoenn special, I do agree that wild water battles could use some work with the variety and all 100 Tentacools in a row does get annoying and the HM system needs work too but still a 7.8/10? Pokemon is still a better game than most of the drivel released these days.

Pendraflare November 19th, 2014 5:09 AM

I thought it was established a while ago that the Battle Resort was what would be present... Why did people still think the Battle Frontier was going to be in the game? Did they just forget about that? :/ As i've mentioned, hopefully the Resort will have more to it. *cough Triple and Rotation Battles cough*

And two Day-Care centers?! Wow, that's something else.

Megan November 19th, 2014 8:17 AM

You can't just put every good feature into only one game. I mean who would buy the next games (you know, these games that come out next year :P) if all the wanted features are already in the older games (in this case ORAS) included?[/sarcasm]

But it is kinda funny how people already found something they can complain about, even though the games aren't even released, yet.

ShadowEdge November 19th, 2014 8:44 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if DLC is a thing for this game then again I'm going with my theory that BF will be added as the days progress. Sort of like how the demo is, you know what with Stevens house.

cmtthws92 November 19th, 2014 9:39 AM

It was already confirmed the Battle Frontier wasn't coming back. That's why we have the Battle Resort.

Could the Frontier be DLC? I highly doubt so.

MarinoKadame November 19th, 2014 9:53 AM

So other than Rayquaza Delta Episode and the mirage spots, what is the post game ? Another kind of similar kiloude city with a second daycare and battle resort which seems to be some kind of battle Maison thing like in Kiloude. It's almost no different than XY post game even if you can capture other old legendaries in mirage spots if it's what I think Battle Resort is.

isael-21 November 19th, 2014 10:37 AM

Nooo! I was expecting it for real this time. I didn't even care to take the challenge in the originals.


T_T

RedJ November 19th, 2014 10:47 AM

Never cared for the Frontier so I'm not particularly upset over this (assuming it's even true), but I do find it odd that it would be mentioned but not actually show up in the games...unless it was mentioned in the original R/S, in which case I guess that would make sense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarinoKadame (Post 8502768)
So other than Rayquaza Delta Episode and the mirage spots, what is the post game ? Another kind of similar kiloude city with a second daycare and battle resort which seems to be some kind of battle Maison thing like in Kiloude. It's almost no different than XY post game even if you can capture other old legendaries in mirage spots if it's what I think Battle Resort is.

Not sure what else you were expecting outside of more (or most in this case) legendaries, some sort of battle facility (which IS what the Maison is, assuming it's in the game in the first place and this isn't a "leaker" messing with people as tends to happen and considering we don't know anything about this one I think it's a bit soon to be passing judgement on it regardless), and maybe a post game story of some sort and Gym Leader/Elite Four rematches (which if the demo dump is anything to go by, at least Elite Four rematches have been confirmed)...which, you know, is basically what every Pokemon post game ever is.

Corvus of the Black Night November 19th, 2014 10:51 AM

Oh jeez I hope it's DLC. I still firmly believe that Emerald's Battle Frontier was the best of its contemporaries. 7 awesome ways to play.

blue November 19th, 2014 11:20 AM

I wouldn't rule it out as of yet, remember reviewers have an embargo as to the amount of content they're allowed to reveal.

" I can't be specific about the incredibly exciting things that happen once you beat the game. " - Kotaku.

Even if they're not initially in game, there are plenty of other ways that the BF could be implemented in the game at a later date with Day One release patches or DLC.

CalzoneCannon November 19th, 2014 2:37 PM

For all we know, maybe they were instructed to say that there is no Battle Frontier in the game, or to complete avoid revealing it, just so that we'd be even more excited when it actually is in the game.

Pepperton November 19th, 2014 5:22 PM

Merged threads! :]

XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE November 19th, 2014 5:44 PM

Slightly off topic but what you're saying about a second Day Care is pretty interesting, to the best of my knowledge that hasn't happened since FRLG. I'm wondering will it be like those games where the first one you come across you can only raise one and then the second one you get to raise two (which I'd be puzzled if it WAS like that cause I feel like most people just use it for breeding) BUT guess we'll just have to wait and see :) Not long now! :)

Hikamaru November 19th, 2014 6:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE (Post 8503173)
Slightly off topic but what you're saying about a second Day Care is pretty interesting, to the best of my knowledge that hasn't happened since FRLG. I'm wondering will it be like those games where the first one you come across you can only raise one and then the second one you get to raise two (which I'd be puzzled if it WAS like that cause I feel like most people just use it for breeding) BUT guess we'll just have to wait and see :) Not long now! :)

I think you're talking about Black & White, the Day Care in those games only allowed one Pokemon at first but they start allowing two after you rescue the Day Care Man from Team Plasma in Nimbasa City. And in Black 2 & White 2's case the Day Care only available in the postgame.

I still don't get what the second Day Care is there for though.

RedJ November 19th, 2014 6:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 8503198)
I think you're talking about Black & White, the Day Care in those games only allowed one Pokemon at first but they start allowing two after you rescue the Day Care Man from Team Plasma in Nimbasa City. And in Black 2 & White 2's case the Day Care only available in the postgame.

I still don't get what the second Day Care is there for though.

FR/LG's daycare only allowed you to leave one Pokemon. There was a second on on the Sevii Islands (I think) that allowed you to leave two and breed.

They probably put the second daycare there just to save a trip between the IV checker and the daycare. Might've made a bit more sense to put the IV checker in the old daycare, assuming it's even still around and can still be used for breeding, but on the other hand....this way you can get more eggs, I guess?

Hikamaru November 19th, 2014 6:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedJ (Post 8503245)
FR/LG's daycare only allowed you to leave one Pokemon. There was a second on on the Sevii Islands (I think) that allowed you to leave two and breed.

They probably put the second daycare there just to save a trip between the IV checker and the daycare. Might've made a bit more sense to put the IV checker in the old daycare, assuming it's even still around and can still be used for breeding, but on the other hand....this way you can get more eggs, I guess?

I see... it's just that I never played FR/LG, or any games whose main story took place in Kanto for that matter.

XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE November 19th, 2014 7:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 8503198)
I think you're talking about Black & White, the Day Care in those games only allowed one Pokemon at first but they start allowing two after you rescue the Day Care Man from Team Plasma in Nimbasa City. And in Black 2 & White 2's case the Day Care only available in the postgame.

I still don't get what the second Day Care is there for though.


Ah I see, thank you for letting me know! Wouldn't like to get that wrong haha :) It's clearly been a while since I've played Gen V lol but now that you mention it it's all coming back to me :)

Vinny Vidi Vici November 19th, 2014 8:30 PM

I know there has been a lot of speculation, and my thinking is that there has to be a Battle Frontier, or Battle Resort, whatever you want to call it, but basically a post-game that provides fun alternative ways of battling. X and Y introduced Inverse battling after all, and to me it's just so obvious and easy to make a facility out of it that it would almost be bizarre if they didn't.

So given that by all accounts the games as shipped don't have them in yet, so I'm thinking that there might be creedance to the idea that they'll be DLC, but more likely than that, I just think the Frontier isn't finished yet and that they'll patch it in when it's done. It could also be possible that it's part of a promotion event too not unlike the Eon Ticket. Maybe that's just incredibly wishful thinking from me as I know a lot of other people are assuming that it'll not be game like the original Ruby and Sapphire, but then it'll be included in a follow-up Delta Emerald. My thinking though is that in all remake games there has been a good deal of extra content and I can't imagine that the games will play out very similar to the original R/S but then just tack on some more legendaries, some looker missions and be done with it.

BriCKson November 19th, 2014 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinny Vidi Vici (Post 8503390)
I know there has been a lot of speculation, and my thinking is that there has to be a Battle Frontier, or Battle Resort, whatever you want to call it, but basically a post-game that provides fun alternative ways of battling. X and Y introduced Inverse battling after all, and to me it's just so obvious and easy to make a facility out of it that it would almost be bizarre if they didn't.

So given that by all accounts the games as shipped don't have them in yet, so I'm thinking that there might be creedance to the idea that they'll be DLC, but more likely than that, I just think the Frontier isn't finished yet and that they'll patch it in when it's done. It could also be possible that it's part of a promotion event too not unlike the Eon Ticket. Maybe that's just incredibly wishful thinking from me as I know a lot of other people are assuming that it'll not be game like the original Ruby and Sapphire, but then it'll be included in a follow-up Delta Emerald. My thinking though is that in all remake games there has been a good deal of extra content and I can't imagine that the games will play out very similar to the original R/S but then just tack on some more legendaries, some looker missions and be done with it.

I could see an event, I suppose, way more than a DLC. Game Freak seems to really want to stay away from DLC's.

GiraKoth November 19th, 2014 11:31 PM

Or maybe they'll release an Emerald remake, but more like a sequel to ORAS, in which the Battle Frontier will be there.
The end of Delta Episode (not trying to spoil) suggests that there must be something else after. But it could also be an event as you said.

Cerberus87 November 19th, 2014 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoenn (Post 8502848)
I wouldn't rule it out as of yet, remember reviewers have an embargo as to the amount of content they're allowed to reveal.

" I can't be specific about the incredibly exciting things that happen once you beat the game. " - Kotaku.

Even if they're not initially in game, there are plenty of other ways that the BF could be implemented in the game at a later date with Day One release patches or DLC.

Considering they didn't even bother patching X and Y with the new Mega Evolutions, what makes you think they'd add content to ORAS in a patch? It's DLC or bust. And, considering GF has stated in the past they don't like DLC...

Altius November 20th, 2014 5:25 AM

Prepare yourselves.


Soloo993 November 20th, 2014 6:23 AM

I hope that this is for the original frontier brains and no for the "battle chatelaines" of the battle resort

DarkPoke001 November 20th, 2014 7:12 AM

It is HIGHLY unlikely there will be a 'Delta Emerald' remake though, as back in 2010 with HeartGold abd Soulsilver, the games will most likely include the extra features from Pokémon Emerald, just as HG/SS include the features introduced in Crystal (and more)

There is just no point in creating a 3rd version remake, as the original 3rd version features SHOULD be added IN the remakes

Although 'Delta Emerald' may be trademarked, they also did this with 'WaterBlue' which never happened

and who's to say they didn't trademark it with the sole intention of including the 'Delta' episode?

Mark Kamill November 22nd, 2014 12:21 AM

Besides the battle tower model, there is way more stuff in the resort that is left open, or referenced. XY was nothing compared to the carrot dangling here.
-Pike Queen Lucy was scouted.
Scott was mentioned, apparently he is unbeatable.
Volcanion activates buzznav tidbits of Brandon hunting it around the world.
Looker is missing his memory, and is left for the end game that is a bit empty. The chatelaines mention how they need to get back to Kalos, but not before they make bank from the frontier.
DLC is gonna happen, its just a matter of when.

Altius November 22nd, 2014 4:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soloo993 (Post 8503681)
I hope that this is for the original frontier brains and no for the "battle chatelaines" of the battle resort

Unfortunately, I've just watched a battle of the chatelaines and they use this frontier brain theme.

ShadowSlashz November 22nd, 2014 5:58 AM

Battle Frontier deconfirmed probably...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHKf55ZB1zg

Famon November 22nd, 2014 8:10 AM

No Anabel ;-; !
But I was looking forward to her new design

Luka S.J. November 22nd, 2014 8:52 AM

Many keep forgetting that the BF did not exist in the original Ruby and Sapphire games. ORAS are remakes of those games, not of emerald. They keep within the timeline of RS where Steven was champ, and Scott wasn't there yet. And in ORAS they give hints how RS and E were actually two different timelines (maybe parallel universes with Zinnia's little nugget). Makes perfect sense not to put in the BF. I wouldn't get my hopes up for any possible DLC either.

MarinoKadame November 22nd, 2014 8:59 AM

It seems they pretty much not included that much emerald content compared to HGSS who got some crystal content.

Liberal Army November 23rd, 2014 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luka S.J. (Post 8505743)
Many keep forgetting that the BF did not exist in the original Ruby and Sapphire games. ORAS are remakes of those games, not of emerald. They keep within the timeline of RS where Steven was champ, and Scott wasn't there yet. And in ORAS they give hints how RS and E were actually two different timelines (maybe parallel universes with Zinnia's little nugget). Makes perfect sense not to put in the BF. I wouldn't get my hopes up for any possible DLC either.

So? It's like saying Amie shouldn't be in the games because RS didn't have it. HGSS got a Battle Frontier, FRLG got the Trainer Tower, so why should ORAS be lame and only get the Battle Maison?

Luka S.J. November 23rd, 2014 3:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberal Army (Post 8506480)
So? It's like saying Amie shouldn't be in the games because RS didn't have it. HGSS got a Battle Frontier, FRLG got the Trainer Tower, so why should ORAS be lame and only get the Battle Maison?

Pokemon Amie has nothing to do with the story arch. While the Frontier does. And with that little Steven - Wallace conversation in the Delta episode, GF has split the continuity between RS and E. Even though it wouldn't account for teams Aqua and Magma going for the legendaries again, it still presents a distinct difference between the games. The Frontier was in the arch where Scott was scouting for talented trainers. This takes place in the Emerald storyline, not the other two. You could consider it like being the difference between the manga and anime. While the two share characters and plotlines, they still don't fit into the same "universe". There are differences splitting the two. Same thing goes here.

While I would have preferred the Frontier to be there, since they obvoiusly changed up the storyline to accomodate for Mega Evolutions, I can understand GF's actions not to. That's all I'm saying.

Hikamaru November 23rd, 2014 4:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarinoKadame (Post 8505748)
It seems they pretty much not included that much emerald content compared to HGSS who got some crystal content.

Yeah, they really wanted to make it a glorified Ruby/Sapphire and include as little Emerald references as possible. Just kinda annoying compared to a lot of the notable Crystal elements present in HG/SS. Even all the Maison trainers got completely recycled from X & Y, which is very lazy but I assume this is to ensure compatibility with X & Y when linking up with another player for the Multi Battles.

MarinoKadame November 23rd, 2014 1:18 PM

Even May and Brendan has no Icons for the PSS.

ShadowEdge November 23rd, 2014 5:44 PM

Is Battle Resort the same as Battle Frontier? If it is then what is the big fuss about?


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 8:07 AM.


Like our Facebook Page Follow us on Twitter © 2002 - 2018 The PokéCommunity™, pokecommunity.com.
Pokémon characters and images belong to The Pokémon Company International and Nintendo. This website is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by Nintendo, Creatures, GAMEFREAK, The Pokémon Company or The Pokémon Company International. We just love Pokémon.
All forum styles, their images (unless noted otherwise) and site designs are © 2002 - 2016 The PokéCommunity / PokéCommunity.com.
PokéCommunity™ is a trademark of The PokéCommunity. All rights reserved. Sponsor advertisements do not imply our endorsement of that product or service. User generated content remains the property of its creator.

Acknowledgements
Use of PokéCommunity Assets
vB Optimise by DragonByte Technologies Ltd © 2023.