![]() |
The Battle Frontier
The Battle Frontier has not been seen in a pokemon game for about 4 years. However, now with ORAS coming out we could be seeing it once again. However what I am wondering (and really the whole point of making this thread is) If we do see the Battle Frontier again, will we see any differences from the original? And also, would we be seeing the Hoenn's Battle Frontier or Sinnoh/Jhoto's?
|
what is the battle frontier? I never heard of it before and I played all the pokemon games.
seriously I went online on gamefaqs and that is all anyone is asking about. What is so good about it? |
Here's what the Battle Frontier is.
|
The Battle Frontier is this area that you can access after beating the game (first appeared in Crystal, but the more notable appearance was in Emerald, Platinum and HGSS) It basically was a place where you could battle, but it had different rules that made things interesting. Like Rental Pokemon where you had to use rental pokemon. Or battle Arcade where you would spin a roulette and get different effects, or just other stuff.
|
Well a big question I wonder is if you'll still get BP from the pokebank like we do now? I can't stand doing battle frontier for BP lol...
|
True that. I have trouble with competitive battling, so I really couldn't get any BP when I played the HGSS battle frontier. so hopefully Gamefreak still let's us use the pokemon link (aka the thing where you can get BP from Pokemon Bank).
|
Quote:
Anyways the original one from Emerald had Seven unlike Sinnoh/Johto's Five. |
oh right, lol. Sorry for the mistake :p
|
i remember seeing somewhere on smogon that the people saw in the coding of the demo something called the battle island, could it be similar to the battle frontier.
|
Quote:
And also I read somewhere that after Smogon hacked the demo they said there are 5 facilities in the resort (I forgot where the link is). The first four deal with a specific type (Fairy, Ground, Grass, and Bug) while the other is the Battle Maison. |
Quote:
|
Imma need the Fronteir to return and at the very least have Lucy's Seviper Pike facility make an appearance. I spent so much time going through that facility in Emerald, truely the best one out of any of the Fronteirs in all the games
|
I really hope the Battle Maison does not return. That thing is just as good as a washed down battle tower.
If I remember correctly, wasn't there an image of the Battle Chateau background in some scan (CoroCoro I believe, but it was an older issue)? My guess is one of the facilities will be the Battle Chateau. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
If anything, I want to see the return of the Battle Dome. It was my favourite of the facilities because of it's tournament battle style. It's the closest thing I get to the anime version of the Pokemon League in the games.
|
I hope Anabel is coming back.
|
Quote:
Damn it, now I'm getting super excited thinking of all the possibilities {XD} |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Well I hope the emerald frontier returns just renamed as the resort with the battle maison added in!
it could just be a rename of battle frontier or there could be 2 areas battle frontier and battle resort? other things have been renamed like secret bases to super secret bases etc. My only hope is for Lucy of the battle pike to return! Please Gamefreak! |
Well, from the new trailer, we see that we battle Deoxys in space, AKA the Final Frontier.
Wait. Battle Deoxys in the Final Frontier. Battle Frontier. Battle Frontier in space confirmed. (Zeta/Omicron did it) |
What if... Nintendo added fake stuff into the demo because they knew people would hack into it to leak stuff early, and half of the stuff leaked is actually fake. We might have the normal Battle Frontier back, and they just through an illusion in there.
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Apparently Battle Points can be obtained. I'm not sure if this is just for the Battle Facility or from the new Battle Court in Mauville City, but iirc you received BPs from the Battle Frontier in Emerald.
|
i never understood why pp loved battle frontier that much.. it was kinda boring for me
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
The plot ends practically after defeating the evil team, and if we're lucky we get some post game side story. So the Battle Frontier gives us something to do with all the post game training. Also the Emerald Frontier is by far more fun than the Sinnoh/Johto one (you know just saying incase you haven't played the Emerald one considering the numbers that did are going down as older fans are replaced by new fans).
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Why even continue to play the game post game in that case? Or even after defeating the evil team for that matter as the plot practically ends there? The BF at least gives us something to do with our Pokemon after the plot ends.
|
Quote:
|
If they think about bringing back the extreme hax AI of the Frontier I'd rather not see it.
|
I really hope that Emerald's BF is added to OR and AS. More specifically, the Battle Dome! I use to love that place. If not I'll have my fingers crossed for a Delta Emerald...
|
The facilities are always Hax...XY's Battle Maison takes it to the extreme...
|
Quote:
|
1 Attachment(s)
I wonder what facility they ment?
|
@ Cerberus Well those of us who were for Hoenn remakes mainly wanted them to re-experience the region in new graphics even though we could obtain all of the Hoenn Pokemon from XY and previous generations, and RSE are still playable unlike RGBYGSC(which had inferior batteries compared to RSE) as long as one has a GBA or a pre-DSi version of the DS.)
|
Quote:
I was answering to an earlier comment who suggested remaking Emerald due to possible lack of Frontier in ORAS. Though I guess the Delta Episode opens up possibilities for dual remakes of DP as well, since they could, and would, shoehorn Giratina's story into them as easily as they have done with Rayquaza and ORAS (creating something better, since the Rayquaza plot in Emerald wasn't very developed although it was part of the main storyline). People are hopeful for the Frontier, but, will the game suck without it? IMO it will be good either way. I guess I just don't care since I've never played the Frontier much in both of its iterations (3rd and 4th gen). I found the PWT much cooler. |
Quote:
And i'm with Cerberus on the fact that the game won't need the Battle Frontier to be good, because the Resort i'm sure will be at least something similar to it. But you know what? I couldn't give less of a flying fudge if the Battle Frontier isn't present, not that i'm intentionally trashing it but I think people take the thought of it not being in the game way out of proportion. |
I honestly don't care if it returns. I don't think it'll make the game suck if it's not in it. If it's in the game cool, but if it's not okay whatever.
|
It just won't feel like the remake I hoped for if it lacks the Frontier...most as Emerald was my first game...which explains my mention of Delta Emerald maybe happening if they don't do the frontier...
Maybe they could bring back the Frontier but retcon the Tower to the Maison with Anabel still as the brain, then by Z the frontier could've moved to Kalos. |
Likewise Juan wont make appearance based on the demo.. so unless the full game has more changes..but most probably it would be battle island.. since the area is also an island..
|
They could even turn the Battle Frontier into some sort of Post game plot. I'd like to see the Frontier Brains become something within the main plot or post game plot.
|
I can't speak for others, but personally, I feel it'd be great if Frontier Brains were to appear throughout the game from location-to-location, making you feel more familiar and whatnot.
In Emerald when first meeting these people, things felt sort of... unnatural, so to speak. These guys are special, as they have their own sprites and whatnot, and since they are, I believe it would be best if they were treated as such and were put into larger role and whatnot, rather than their usual meet-greet-battle position. Not sure how much sense I'm making here, but I hope we're able to understand what I'm attempting to get through! Of course, people such as Elite Four don't tend to appear before battling them initially, but some do (Flint in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, for example), so if they were to stick by this for Frontier Brains as well, I believe it'd have much more of a stronger touch on players overall. |
It would be nice to see at least one. Irc Pearl's father appeared outside of his facility in Pt at least once. I would like to see Wally at the Frontier or whatever ends up taking it's spot. I kept picturing him as being lonely at victory road... plus the climate is nicer.
|
Quote:
|
Its likely now the Battle Resort found in the datamine. I still maintain the idea that its outside of Hoenn, as we have nowhere in Hoenn that contains a facility which hands out Battle Points, which are found in-game as per the trainer card. Unless of course the Battle Institute is in Mauville, which in that case I'm stumped as hell.
|
I wonder if Caitlyn will return since she is part of the Unova Elite Four now. That could be one of the reasons the whole BF isn't coming back.
|
Quote:
Though I won't want to see those old faces if the Battle Frontier is a reality. I want Emerald faces. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
Anyway, major ****storm this way comes. Battle Maison found with a 2nd Daycare apparently by a reviewer, and NPCs apparently imply that the frontier is being built. Day 1 Patch for ultimate surprise? |
Quote:
Not surprised about the Battle Maison reappearing tbh. Also it'll be an Update or DLC, Patches are meant to fix issues. The idea of a update/DLC upon release seems like a good idea to me, some companies ship out broken games (on purpose to hurt those who pirate or get the street date broken one), this could be GF's version, but nicer. |
Update/DLC/Patch, same thing. I can only assume a DLC would update the version number, making it mandatory to play online, thus not locking users out. I can only assume what would be the new Battle Resort would also be pretty big for them to have us download, maybe they also will throw in some new Megas all over Hoenn? I seriously am considering the idea that the leaks forced their hands in using Day 1 updates to make sure nothing gets spoiled.
|
Looks Like The Battle Frontier Won't Be Back In ORAS :( Could Be DLC
Oh dear here we go, a reviewer who managed to get his hand on a review copy of the games from Nintendo tweeted earlier that there will be no Battle Frontier in ORAS, the Battle Maison and a second Day Care Center are there but the in game NPC's do mention the Battle Frontier as if it could still come, which could mean we may see it as DLC..... This is by no means confirmed but with only 3 days left until the games come out I'm sure we would have heard something by now, coupled with the fact he had to delete the tweet too. Well this is one feature I really hoped we would see again obviously I'm dissapointed, but I like the idea of it maybe being DLC it could help expand the games life-cycle, oh I dunno, you guys decide.
Source: Youtube User pdwinnall Sorry guys I'm new here I can't post links :( |
Words cannot express how disappointed I am... the Battle Frontier is one of my all-time favourite features of Pokémon.
I'm also kind of disappointed with the lack of Battle Tower. I know that ORAS is pretty much XY, but with different graphics and models, but at least put some more homage to the originals. :< Eh, I hope the post-game is worth something, at least. |
Quote:
|
But I thought downloadable content wasn't going to be a thing? Still, I can express how disappointed some people were but let's just remember it was initially an Emerald-only feature and wasn't exactly in Ruby & Sapphire, which these remakes seem to follow more closely than Emerald.
|
As long as it has more endgame than X/Y, I can get over this - sad as it is.
|
Quote:
|
That's really disappointing, especially considering they made a whole anime series revolving around it. :( Hoenn's Battle Frontier has been the best. The one's that came after were just pale imitations. :(
I pray there is DLC (hopefully not day 1 though, maybe a few weeks after the European release/just before Christmas!) that includes it |
If true though the Battle Frontier DLC would be the first ever Pokemon DLC what do you guys think of that?
|
Quote:
|
I thought it was established a while ago that the Battle Resort was what would be present... Why did people still think the Battle Frontier was going to be in the game? Did they just forget about that? :/ As i've mentioned, hopefully the Resort will have more to it. *cough Triple and Rotation Battles cough*
And two Day-Care centers?! Wow, that's something else. |
You can't just put every good feature into only one game. I mean who would buy the next games (you know, these games that come out next year :P) if all the wanted features are already in the older games (in this case ORAS) included?[/sarcasm]
But it is kinda funny how people already found something they can complain about, even though the games aren't even released, yet. |
I wouldn't be surprised if DLC is a thing for this game then again I'm going with my theory that BF will be added as the days progress. Sort of like how the demo is, you know what with Stevens house.
|
It was already confirmed the Battle Frontier wasn't coming back. That's why we have the Battle Resort.
Could the Frontier be DLC? I highly doubt so. |
So other than Rayquaza Delta Episode and the mirage spots, what is the post game ? Another kind of similar kiloude city with a second daycare and battle resort which seems to be some kind of battle Maison thing like in Kiloude. It's almost no different than XY post game even if you can capture other old legendaries in mirage spots if it's what I think Battle Resort is.
|
Nooo! I was expecting it for real this time. I didn't even care to take the challenge in the originals.
T_T |
Never cared for the Frontier so I'm not particularly upset over this (assuming it's even true), but I do find it odd that it would be mentioned but not actually show up in the games...unless it was mentioned in the original R/S, in which case I guess that would make sense.
Quote:
|
Oh jeez I hope it's DLC. I still firmly believe that Emerald's Battle Frontier was the best of its contemporaries. 7 awesome ways to play.
|
I wouldn't rule it out as of yet, remember reviewers have an embargo as to the amount of content they're allowed to reveal.
" I can't be specific about the incredibly exciting things that happen once you beat the game. " - Kotaku. Even if they're not initially in game, there are plenty of other ways that the BF could be implemented in the game at a later date with Day One release patches or DLC. |
For all we know, maybe they were instructed to say that there is no Battle Frontier in the game, or to complete avoid revealing it, just so that we'd be even more excited when it actually is in the game.
|
Merged threads! :]
|
Slightly off topic but what you're saying about a second Day Care is pretty interesting, to the best of my knowledge that hasn't happened since FRLG. I'm wondering will it be like those games where the first one you come across you can only raise one and then the second one you get to raise two (which I'd be puzzled if it WAS like that cause I feel like most people just use it for breeding) BUT guess we'll just have to wait and see :) Not long now! :)
|
Quote:
I still don't get what the second Day Care is there for though. |
Quote:
They probably put the second daycare there just to save a trip between the IV checker and the daycare. Might've made a bit more sense to put the IV checker in the old daycare, assuming it's even still around and can still be used for breeding, but on the other hand....this way you can get more eggs, I guess? |
Quote:
|
Quote:
Ah I see, thank you for letting me know! Wouldn't like to get that wrong haha :) It's clearly been a while since I've played Gen V lol but now that you mention it it's all coming back to me :) |
I know there has been a lot of speculation, and my thinking is that there has to be a Battle Frontier, or Battle Resort, whatever you want to call it, but basically a post-game that provides fun alternative ways of battling. X and Y introduced Inverse battling after all, and to me it's just so obvious and easy to make a facility out of it that it would almost be bizarre if they didn't.
So given that by all accounts the games as shipped don't have them in yet, so I'm thinking that there might be creedance to the idea that they'll be DLC, but more likely than that, I just think the Frontier isn't finished yet and that they'll patch it in when it's done. It could also be possible that it's part of a promotion event too not unlike the Eon Ticket. Maybe that's just incredibly wishful thinking from me as I know a lot of other people are assuming that it'll not be game like the original Ruby and Sapphire, but then it'll be included in a follow-up Delta Emerald. My thinking though is that in all remake games there has been a good deal of extra content and I can't imagine that the games will play out very similar to the original R/S but then just tack on some more legendaries, some looker missions and be done with it. |
Quote:
|
Or maybe they'll release an Emerald remake, but more like a sequel to ORAS, in which the Battle Frontier will be there.
The end of Delta Episode (not trying to spoil) suggests that there must be something else after. But it could also be an event as you said. |
Quote:
|
Prepare yourselves.
|
I hope that this is for the original frontier brains and no for the "battle chatelaines" of the battle resort
|
It is HIGHLY unlikely there will be a 'Delta Emerald' remake though, as back in 2010 with HeartGold abd Soulsilver, the games will most likely include the extra features from Pokémon Emerald, just as HG/SS include the features introduced in Crystal (and more)
There is just no point in creating a 3rd version remake, as the original 3rd version features SHOULD be added IN the remakes Although 'Delta Emerald' may be trademarked, they also did this with 'WaterBlue' which never happened and who's to say they didn't trademark it with the sole intention of including the 'Delta' episode? |
Besides the battle tower model, there is way more stuff in the resort that is left open, or referenced. XY was nothing compared to the carrot dangling here.
-Pike Queen Lucy was scouted. Scott was mentioned, apparently he is unbeatable. Volcanion activates buzznav tidbits of Brandon hunting it around the world. Looker is missing his memory, and is left for the end game that is a bit empty. The chatelaines mention how they need to get back to Kalos, but not before they make bank from the frontier. DLC is gonna happen, its just a matter of when. |
Quote:
|
|
No Anabel ;-; !
But I was looking forward to her new design |
Many keep forgetting that the BF did not exist in the original Ruby and Sapphire games. ORAS are remakes of those games, not of emerald. They keep within the timeline of RS where Steven was champ, and Scott wasn't there yet. And in ORAS they give hints how RS and E were actually two different timelines (maybe parallel universes with Zinnia's little nugget). Makes perfect sense not to put in the BF. I wouldn't get my hopes up for any possible DLC either.
|
It seems they pretty much not included that much emerald content compared to HGSS who got some crystal content.
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
While I would have preferred the Frontier to be there, since they obvoiusly changed up the storyline to accomodate for Mega Evolutions, I can understand GF's actions not to. That's all I'm saying. |
Quote:
|
Even May and Brendan has no Icons for the PSS.
|
Is Battle Resort the same as Battle Frontier? If it is then what is the big fuss about?
|
| All times are GMT -8. The time now is 8:07 AM. |
![]()
© 2002 - 2018 The PokéCommunity™, pokecommunity.com.
Pokémon characters and images belong to The Pokémon Company International and Nintendo. This website is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by Nintendo, Creatures, GAMEFREAK, The Pokémon Company or The Pokémon Company International. We just love Pokémon.
All forum styles, their images (unless noted otherwise) and site designs are © 2002 - 2016 The PokéCommunity / PokéCommunity.com.
PokéCommunity™ is a trademark of The PokéCommunity. All rights reserved. Sponsor advertisements do not imply our endorsement of that product or service. User generated content remains the property of its creator.
Acknowledgements
Use of PokéCommunity Assets
vB Optimise by DragonByte Technologies Ltd © 2023.