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#DickBats November 22nd, 2014 2:25 PM

Did Game Freak run out of paper?
 
No manual, no artwork! The club nintendo code was on the backside of the cover, it made the inside look really bad.

The game is great so far! But the packaging ticked me off a little :|

What do you guys think? It's me just being stupid, or any of you think the same?

Spinosaurus November 22nd, 2014 2:27 PM

Welcome to the video game industry of today, where everything is digital.

It's not just Game Freak or even Nintendo. You ever buy any Vita games? Good luck finding an actual manual.

~RNC~ November 22nd, 2014 2:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Spinosaurus (Post 8506061)
Welcome to the video game industry of today, where everything is digital.

It's not just Game Freak or even Nintendo. You ever buy any Vita games? Good luck finding an actual manual.

Wait, what? I pre ordered the manual for these games, I haven't picked it up yet, but did buy it.

Cerberus87 November 22nd, 2014 2:38 PM

Nowadays manuals only have technical info. In the old days they used to have stuff like controls and what you would find in the game (enemies, weapons, etc.). Compare an RBY manual with an ORAS one and you'll see. The RBY manual had the type chart for example, a big help.

Nah November 22nd, 2014 2:41 PM

Yeah, game manuals aren't really a thing anymore. It's been like that for years. Most games these days will just have a page giving you a rundown of the basic controls and that's about it.

RedJ November 22nd, 2014 2:44 PM

That's how it is with basically every single game ever. If you want any sort of book with info on a particular game, you'll have to buy the guidebook, and those are useless most of the time (I remember when Pokemon guides had Trainer rosters and the full PokeDex in them).

Also, I'm pretty sure this is more of a Nintendo thing than Game Freak's doing.

~RNC~ November 22nd, 2014 2:55 PM

Well did they run out of paper? I didn't know that, why did I even buy the manual then, time for a refund.

antemortem November 22nd, 2014 3:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ~RNC~ (Post 8506095)
Well did they run out of paper? I didn't know that, why did I even buy the manual then, time for a refund.

The threadmaker used "run out of paper" as a sort of idiom. He didn't literally mean GameFreak ran out of paper.

~RNC~ November 22nd, 2014 3:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Antemortem (Post 8506104)
The threadmaker used "run out of paper" as a sort of idiom. He didn't literally mean GameFreak ran out of paper.

I know that, but it is strange that they don't put as much in the manuals any more.

#DickBats November 22nd, 2014 3:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Spinosaurus (Post 8506061)
It's not just Game Freak or even Nintendo. You ever buy any Vita games? Good luck finding an actual manual.

No, I don't have a vita but all of my Ps4 games comes with a manual or some sort of extra like a map of the game or something.

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Originally Posted by Zekrom (Post 8506076)
Yeah, game manuals aren't really a thing anymore. It's been like that for years. Most games these days will just have a page giving you a rundown of the basic controls and that's about it.

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Originally Posted by RedJ (Post 8506079)
That's how it is with basically every single game ever. If you want any sort of book with info on a particular game, you'll have to buy the guidebook, and those are useless most of the time (I remember when Pokemon guides had Trainer rosters and the full PokeDex in them).

I understand about the manuals. But the game didn't bring anything! Only some sort of health and warranty info. I mean, atleast put a picture of Groudon and Kyogre in front of that warraty guide to cover it.

mew_nani November 22nd, 2014 3:31 PM

They just simply put the manual in the cartridge instead of in the cover. Why they do that is beyond me. There's not even a lot of artwork in it! It used to be full of art.

blue November 22nd, 2014 3:36 PM

It's just something that's much more common with modern Video Games, a way of helping the environment if you like.

BakingBluePotatoe November 22nd, 2014 3:37 PM

Man, I miss the days when you'd buy a game and there was more to it than just sticking it in the console and playing it, you'd go through the whole box, admire that, and take out the manual, read it, admire the pictures, all that good stuff! Boy has the experience of buying a game been less thrilling in recent years. Nowadays it's only fun when there's a Limited Edition kind of thing with artbooks and figures, and stell boxes, and other cool stuff!

mew_nani November 22nd, 2014 3:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoenn (Post 8506131)
It's just something that's much more common with modern Video Games, a way of helping the environment if you like.

And saving money, at the cost of thousands of nostalgic memories and excitement for gamers and kids everywhere. It's a shame. :(

Cerberus87 November 22nd, 2014 4:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedJ (Post 8506079)
That's how it is with basically every single game ever. If you want any sort of book with info on a particular game, you'll have to buy the guidebook, and those are useless most of the time (I remember when Pokemon guides had Trainer rosters and the full PokeDex in them).

Also, I'm pretty sure this is more of a Nintendo thing than Game Freak's doing.

I take it you're younger than I am. This is how manuals looked like back in the day: http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Nintendo_SNES/manual/Formated/Super_Mario_World_-_1991_-_Nintendo.pdf

Plenty of info about the game in that one. Nowadays devs don't even make an effort. It's all digital or slapped into the game in the form of tutorials.

BadPokemon November 22nd, 2014 4:37 PM

I loved flipping through the instruction manual when I was younger and I would have liked to read one before I started playing. I was very disappointed to find the game and that little paper inside the box. The game is great though!

Odyssey November 22nd, 2014 4:52 PM

After checking out my own Alpha Sapphire case, I too realise that Nintendo hasn't included the little booklet.

...I don't see why this is so important. Yeah, it may be a cheap way for Nintendo to save money (it does help the environment, though!), but by this point many gamers, including rookies, would instantly know the general rules of Pokémon. You control the game with a D-Pad and buttons, you catch and battle Pokémon, you use moves to get through the game, you name it. The game itself also tells you what to do next and where to go. Pokémon has always been rather easy and because of that, I like to think that it's kind of pointless to have the booklet.

RedJ November 22nd, 2014 4:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerberus87 (Post 8506169)
I take it you're younger than I am. This is how manuals looked like back in the day: http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Nintendo_SNES/manual/Formated/Super_Mario_World_-_1991_-_Nintendo.pdf

Plenty of info about the game in that one. Nowadays devs don't even make an effort. It's all digital or slapped into the game in the form of tutorials.

No, I remember when they had useful info, I'm not that young :P

I probably should've worded my post better- what I meant was that nowadays they usually don't include anything of use in them, assuming they include them in any form at all, so you're stuck buying the official guide for that sort of thing...which also tend to not be particularly useful, at least as far as my experience with the ones they make for the more recent Pokemon games go.

Cerberus87 November 22nd, 2014 6:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RedJ (Post 8506202)
No, I remember when they had useful info, I'm not that young :P

I probably should've worded my post better- what I meant was that nowadays they usually don't include anything of use in them, assuming they include them in any form at all, so you're stuck buying the official guide for that sort of thing...which also tend to not be particularly useful, at least as far as my experience with the ones they make for the more recent Pokemon games go.

Oh well, the gaming press outsourced walkthroughs to gaming FAQ sites. Free of charge. I used to like reading walkthroughs in magazines, but looking back they weren't as complete as the ones players can produce.

Gulpin November 22nd, 2014 8:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ~RNC~ (Post 8506095)
Well did they run out of paper? I didn't know that, why did I even buy the manual then, time for a refund.

I believe to OP is referring to the manual that comes in the box with the game, not the guidebook that you buy separately.

Musica November 22nd, 2014 8:51 PM

It saves paper; I think it's a good move

Mylabugz November 22nd, 2014 10:49 PM

I never read the manuals until I beat the whole thing, but it really irritates me that the club nintendo game was in the back of the cover. If I hadn't noticed it when I did I would have thrown it away and assumed that nintendo isn't doing that anymore because I didn't get any notice that they were changing the location of the code all of a sudden.

HairyLoco November 22nd, 2014 11:53 PM

To be honest, the little booklets that you got with your games were THE reason for me to actually buy a copy. I just loved collecting and reading those booklets. Now, more than ever with the R4 roms and the sorts, they need to do things like this to make buying a physical copy more attractive, but instead they do the opposite...

A shame.

Cerberus87 November 23rd, 2014 12:24 AM

I was thinking that this thread is maybe better for the gaming section, not just ORAS. The fact ORAS comes with barely any paper instructions only made my decision to buy the digital version stronger, and I'll buy every subsequent 3DS title in the eShop as well.

One of the big reasons for the existence of NoCD cracks, besides piracy, was to eliminate the need to replace CDs on the drive. I kinda find it annoying to have to carry game cards around and replace them when I want to play a different game.

~RNC~ November 23rd, 2014 12:35 AM

You know I found the title a little funny but it might should have been an actual great question, I mean look at how much Game Freak / Nintendo has really sorta slacked off on what they are producing Pokemon wise, I mean even playing ORAS is almost an exact twin of the original ruby and sapphire, I mean even with the gold and silver remakes, they changed it up way more than these 2 games.


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