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Hiatus December 5th, 2014 5:43 PM

Gliscor doesn't precisely fly, but it does glide to get to places. Gliding doesn't require any sort of wind, does it? I suppose it uses its tail to get itself as high as it possibly, and then take it all from there. I'm not sure if I'm making much sense here, but I hope I am! Haha.

Pendraflare December 5th, 2014 6:51 PM

Yeah, I think Gliscor is a Pokémon that would make some sense if it were actually able to use Fly. It's even the Flyscorpio Pokémon if i'm not mistaken, that would kinda make you think it would be able to use that move. It's a bit weird though, that it learns hardly any STAB moves in the main game.

moon December 5th, 2014 11:53 PM

Some pokemon don't have it easy :( trying to train a Zubat in Color Gen... Uuurgh. Only Leech Life for ages, and bite being normal type.

I only recently realized that Scizor can't fly. Trading in freedom/flight for strength... I think I'd staty a Scyther actually.

Famon December 6th, 2014 5:47 AM

I get so mad everytime people say that Mewtwo has no chance Omegamon or Omegamon X even with its Megevolution.
And Its only because Omegamon is bigger and he has a canon & Sword .
Truth to be told , Mewtwo only need Psychic to deal with Omegamon. He can use Psychic to crash Omegamon ''Garuru Canon'' like an empty Soda can. And Omagamon trying to hit Mewtwo with ''Gray sword'' its like Wolverine (X-man) trying to hit Magneto (X-mon) with his claw .
As You Know, Wolverine never able to touch Magneto despite having more Physical strength , Speed and agility .
The Only chance Omegamon X has is ''All Delete'' Unless Mewtwo disable it.

Wicked3DS December 6th, 2014 6:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Adventure (Post 8521580)
I only recently realized that Scizor can't fly. Trading in freedom/flight for strength... I think I'd staty a Scyther actually.

Not to mention it apparently loses a lot of speed. It's actually more like a form change than an evolution.

moon December 6th, 2014 7:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiicked (Post 8521863)
Not to mention it apparently loses a lot of speed. It's actually more like a form change than an evolution.

Yeah, poor bug :( luckily it got a mega that I believe can fly?

Famon December 6th, 2014 7:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Adventure (Post 8521902)
Yeah, poor bug :( luckily it got a mega that I believe can fly?

Unfortunately , There is no Mege Dex that descried any other ability a Megamon get upon Megevolving.
I mean , I believe Mega Sectile can Fly if he spin his Tail and spark his Seed like ORAS Animated promo.
Think , If a Gardevoir can create small Black hole then A Mega Gardevoir should able to create big Black hole .
But there is noway to confirm.

Also , Scizor wing doesn't go though any change after Megevolving .
But As You See , Scizor's wing is pretty Big enough for flying.


Seriously , How Big Scizor's wing has to be for Flying ?
Stupid Pokemon Dungeon game!!!

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Originally Posted by Wiicked (Post 8521863)
Not to mention it apparently loses a lot of speed. It's actually more like a form change than an evolution.

Seriously , Scizor speed drop to 105 to 65 !!!
Does the Producer hate Scizor ? They put so many disadvantage on him !!!

moon December 6th, 2014 11:59 PM

Well mostly he gains defence, right? Metal armor makes him too heavy to fly and be fast.

Brendino December 7th, 2014 12:16 AM

I was going to say that if Skarmory can fly, then there's no reason that Scizor shouldn't be able to, but then I looked at their info and saw that Scizor weighs more than twice more than Skarmory (even Scyther weighs 11 lb/6 kg more). They're both roughly the same height, so it makes me wonder if Skarmory is hollow or something, or its skin/armor is just a lot lighter than one would expect.

moon December 7th, 2014 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Brendino (Post 8523000)
I was going to say that if Skarmory can fly, then there's no reason that Scizor shouldn't be able to, but then I looked at their info and saw that Scizor weighs more than twice more than Skarmory (even Scyther weighs 11 lb/6 kg more). They're both roughly the same height, so it makes me wonder if Skarmory is hollow or something, or its skin/armor is just a lot lighter than one would expect.

The bones of birds irl are hollow, or so I heard, so that might really be it yeah.

Hiatus December 8th, 2014 5:38 PM

If we take its weight into account, it does make sense as to how or why Scizor is unable to fly. Speaking of which, I've always wondering how small, un-evolved Pokémon--Duduo (I hope I'm spelling it right), for example--is able to carry us while taking off and whatnot. The average weight of trainers should be more than them, I believe, at least for most part, so it's actually sort of interesting.

Wicked3DS December 8th, 2014 9:48 PM

Weight is a big concern, too much weight and it wouldn't be able to get very airborne. And I agree, how could a Pidgey or Spearow hold a trainer that's at least 4 times its weight and still fly around?

Also this is pretty relevant:

Hikamaru December 9th, 2014 3:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiicked (Post 8525694)
Weight is a big concern, too much weight and it wouldn't be able to get very airborne. And I agree, how could a Pidgey or Spearow hold a trainer that's at least 4 times its weight and still fly around?

Also this is pretty relevant:

I think the reason why most Bug-types can't learn Fly might be due to the fact insects are small in real life and would be totally incapable of carrying a human despite Bug-type Pokemon tending to be huge compared to their real-world counterparts.

Wicked3DS December 10th, 2014 4:46 AM

It would be cool if there was a Bug-type big enough to use Fly since it would probably have a pretty good design. I'm kind of curious to see something like that now.

Hikamaru December 10th, 2014 5:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiicked (Post 8527265)
It would be cool if there was a Bug-type big enough to use Fly since it would probably have a pretty good design. I'm kind of curious to see something like that now.

Apparently we have two 5th Gen Bug-types who can use it - Genesect and Volcarona. Ironically, they're both not Flying-types.

moon December 10th, 2014 5:25 AM

Genesect carrying humans around in FLY? Seems legit, Gamefreak.

Wicked3DS December 10th, 2014 5:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 8527280)
Apparently we have two 5th Gen Bug-types who can use it - Genesect and Volcarona. Ironically, they're both not Flying-types.

Oops, I forgot about Volcarona shame on me it's a beast. And Genesect doesn't even look like it can fly. But still an actual Bug/Flying-type that could would be pretty cool.

Brendino December 10th, 2014 9:07 PM

Genesect being able to fly kind of reminds me of Arceus- both seem to be capable of learning Fly just because they're legendary Pokemon. Granted, I think Genesect transforms itself in order to be able to fly, but we never see that in the games, so it still seems odd.

Famon December 11th, 2014 8:31 AM

I was watching ''Street-Fighter Assassin Fist'' and I notice that the technique call ''Hado'' is awfully similar to Aura Sphere !
Then It hit me , ''Aura'' is actually ''Ki'' in Pokemon Universe.
So It make me wonder , Does Aura-User can also shoot ''Aura Sphere'' as well .
Just think , Ash has the Ability to shoot ''Aura Sphere'' But he doesn't know how to do it !!!

Samus Aran December 11th, 2014 9:08 PM

I'm pretty sure Aura users don't use pokemon moves themselves...

Genesect reminds me of a mech, I was surprised to know that it could learn fly!

Famon December 12th, 2014 2:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Samus Aran (Post 8529458)
I'm pretty sure Aura users don't use pokemon moves themselves...

Genesect reminds me of a mech, I was surprised to know that it could learn fly!

Rilley used Barrier So I pretty sure they can do that !
Specially if ''Aura'' is actually ''Ki'' .
That explain why ''Aura Sphere'' is Fighting type move since ''Ki'' is associate with Martial Arts.

Hiatus December 12th, 2014 6:03 PM

I'd never known about Volcarona being able to use Fly until now. Though, it's sort of understandable as to why others don't find themselves teaching the move to this Pokémon often; generally, it learns more special-based attacks than anything, and it seems to rely on them a lot, too, due to its above-average Special Attack stat and whatnot.

Pendraflare December 12th, 2014 7:08 PM

Volcarona is a Pokémon that to me kinda resembles the design of something you could ride on much like that of a magic carpet, it's one I get why one could use Fly on it. Besides, the good thing about it is that it's one of two Pokémon that has Flame Body + Fly (the other being Talonflame), which is very helpful in-game for hatching eggs and using the Daycare Center.

Guardian December 13th, 2014 4:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiicked (Post 8527265)
It would be cool if there was a Bug-type big enough to use Fly since it would probably have a pretty good design. I'm kind of curious to see something like that now.

If we talked real life. A very big Yanmega or Scolipede would be a cool solution. :D

I wish there were more dragons you could take a ride on.
Except for Dragonair, and Salamance, and the legendary dragons, other dragons dont really look ridable.

Famon December 13th, 2014 5:33 AM

Question : Can Buizel fly as well --

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/3/3d/Flying_Buizel.png/300px-Flying_Buizel.png

In that theory , Mega Sceptile should fly as well by using its Spinning Tail , Turbo Seed and light Body.


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