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Also, people aren't distracted that easily, just ask the Democrats about how much all those "racial tensions" and "foreign wars" helped them get votes a few weeks ago. But seriously, in case you don't realize, the US has had racial tensions for about a couple centuries, and they have been involved in every major foreign conflict for the last century. Race wars affect the day-to-day lives of millions of US citizens, foreign conflicts have meant US troops being sent to fight and maybe die abroad for decades. Those are matters that directly affect many citizens, and the Government is obligued to pay attention to them. It's not like everybody is suddenly talking about the collapse of the Social-democrat coalition in Croatia, something nobody in the US cares about. It's a huge conflict in a US State, affecting US citizens, that has forced the Governor to call out the National Guard, for god's sake. It reminds me of all those people who claim that the monthly mass-shootings are a plan of the Government to take down the second amendment or whatever nonsense. Politicians are supposed to react to major problems and try to find solutions. But you can't expect them to say "so this term will be all about jobs. If Canada tries to invade Michigan, there is a huge earthquake in California and a local conflict in Colorado results in the entire State erupting in flames, I'm sorry but we won't pay attention to those- we are focused in jobs! I'm sure you can all wait four years until we can pay attention to your problems." |
You don't think any politicians are fueling this? Eric Holder for one fueled it all the way until the verdict by injecting himself into the situation and showing he has "NO TRUST" for a white DA. Whether he flat out said "I hate whites" or not his actions made his intention apparent. Do I think racial tensions are a conspiracy? Yes, of course I do. 20 years ago they were near extinct and now all of the sudden we are back to the 50's in the eyes of the African American community? Makes NO SENSE whatsoever.
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1978: Houston's Moody Park on the first anniversary of Joe Campos Torres death. 1980: Miami Riots (Miami, Florida) 1980: Chattanooga Riot (Chattanooga, Tennessee) 1984: Lawrence, Massachusetts Race Riot: A small scale riot centered at the intersection of Haverhill and railroad streets between working class whites and Hispanics; several buildings were destroyed by Molotov cocktails; August 8, 1984.[46] 1989: Overtown Riot (Miami, FL) In a reaction to the shooting of a black motorcyclist by a Hispanic police officer in the predominately black community of Overtown in Miami, residents rioted for two nights. The officer was later found guilty of manslaughter. 1991: Crown Heights riot (Crown Heights neighborhood, Brooklyn, New York City) 1992: Los Angeles Riots (Los Angeles, California): In a reaction to the acquittal of all four LAPD officers involved in the videotaped beating of Rodney King and the murder of Latasha Harlins; riots broke out mainly involving black youths in the black neighborhoods and shop owners in Korean neighborhoods, but overall rioting was mainly to get out the frustrations of the racial groups over the racial tensions that were building in the South Central neighborhood for years[citation needed]. 1996: St. Petersburg Riots (St. Petersburg, Florida): After Officer Jim Knight stopped 18 yr. old Tyron Lewis for speeding, his car lurched forward and Knight fired his weapon, fatally wounding the black teenager. Riots broke out and lasted for about 2 days.[citation needed] 2001: Cincinnati riots (Cincinnati, Ohio): In a reaction to the fatal shooting of an unarmed young black male, Timothy Thomas by Cincinnati police officer Steven Roach, during a foot pursuit, riots broke out over the span of a few days. 2003: Benton Harbor riots (Benton Harbor, Michigan) 2005: 2005 Toledo Riot (Toledo, Ohio): A race riot that broke out after a planned Neo-Nazi protest march through a black neighborhood. 2006: Fontana High School riot (Fontana, California): Riot involving about 500 Latino and black students[47] 2006: Prison Race Riots (California): A war between Latino and black prison gangs set off a series of riots across California[48][49] 2008: Locke High School riot[50] (Los Angeles, California) 2009: 2009 Oakland Riots (Oakland, California): Peaceful protests turned into rioting after the fatal shooting of an unarmed black man, Oscar Grant, by a BART transit policeman. 2014: Shooting of Michael Brown, later riots break out after the shooting was believed to be racially motivated. Quote:
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Can not speak for the older dates and neither can you i doubt unless you are like 40+. As for the 2000 era ALL were media fueled except the obvious prison wars and those were covered too and the ONLY reason we knew about them.. Prison ethnic gang wars happen daily.
I will admit I am biased on the race wars being Native American because we are the true minority and it really bothers me that people stand up for a 6'4 292 lb man being shot by a policeman, But don't even so much as give a 2 minute blurb about the weekly rapes at reservations at the hands of FBI agents or the fact that Native children still die from complications due to unsanitary conditions every year. People turn a blind eye to it all and then pay attention to garbage like this. The man was shot and killed, the jury found the evidence (particularly on Michael Browns friends testimony) lacking, it should be over but it isn't because they want this "eye for an eye" type of justice. |
It's amazing coming back and seeing exactly how much of an American problem this really is.
"It's a race issue because the KKK was involved!" Pretty sure the Black Panthers were also involved, another racist hate group. "Antiblackness!" American fabricated social issue, racism exists everywhere, against every skin color, no it's not right but pretending this is against a specific group is ignorant. "Most of the violent protestors were white (no evidence of this)/whites rioted too!" That doesn't justify anything, Ferguson was still hit very hard, it's as unacceptable as any riot or looting in any situation. If there was REALLY a racial bias against black people, if America REALLY wanted to just kill or imprison every black person, where was the coverage of Dillon Taylor, the white man shot by a black cop during the same time? Seems like a perfect situation to ruin a black man's life for shooting a white man. It's like I'm on tumblr or something, guess it always will be that way on the internet now. |
People can find a way to justify any behavior as long as it suits THEIR purpose. But that is cool, that is why in America you can have debates like this so people can speak their mind. I like hearing opinions from others perspectives it makes me think. I don't always agree with them but hey, it is hard to when we were all raised differently and in different situations.
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Racism does not exist everywhere, and it does not affect every skin color. Why is rioting unacceptable but ignorance and racism are not? The shooting of Dillon Taylor was determined to be justified due to the victims actions. The differences in this case were that the officer wore a body cam, didn't lie repeatedly, didn't have a corrupt prosecutor supporting him, among other things. I've noticed a trend among people who don't actually know the full scope of the situation: 1) they try to make the conversation about racism against whites and/or try to make the conversation about how it's not a race issue because they don't like thinking about race issues critically, and 2) they bring up Tumblr as an insult. |
Not really my argument but this was just one of 40+ articles mentioning them involved with the issue.
http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/11/social_media_push_to_boycott_black_friday_in_wake_of_ferguson_decision.html However I have seen photos also. THOSE are what I am looking for give me a minute. EDIT: I would mention The Root is one of the top online news references for african americans. EDIT: Will add more articles here and hopefully some pics also soon http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/22/us-usa-missouri-shooting-explosives-idUSKCN0J602N20141122 http://wtvr.com/2014/08/13/fbi-warns-of-new-black-panther-party-leader-inciting-violence-in-ferguson/ OH HERE IS A NICE VID https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwJrG2AMghw |
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Two Black Panthers members arrested, planning to bomb police after verdict rendered. Racism does indeed exist EVERYWHERE, and it affects EVERY RACE, or do you think whites have never been discriminated against? Geez I guess South Africa just doesn't exist, try learning about more than your own country and the english speaking west before you start spewing garbage like that. The riots were started because of ignorance, they always are, riots and looting are never an acceptable answer, not sure how you got something negative out of me saying "don't do it" to literally everyone, this was in response to your "but whites riot for stupid reasons too" argument. Also noticed that I mentioned racism being wrong, here's what I said again, "racism exists everywhere, against every skin color, no it's not right", it was the line above your very next argument. If you watched the video, there was more than enough reason for people to say it was a race issue, to make it as big of a thing as this Michael Brown incident is if it is all really about "keeping the black people down", but nothing happened, because the suspect was suspicious enough with his hands on his hips, much like Michael Brown was when he came running toward the officer with his gun drawn. I've also noticed something about people who don't know anything, they're white, teenaged to early 20s, live in America, but then pretend they know everything, while literally speaking about things that aren't true in the rest of the world, like there somehow isn't racism all over the rest of the world. It's only a race "issue" because ignorant people make it so, the situation is all around regrettable, but the actions of the officer were, if you read everything on the issue, justified in that lethal force was used against a suspect who was violent against the officer and in his initial crime. |
I gave them some links also including a death chant lead by Black panthers in outfit actually lol.
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Sure must be nice to completely disregard black people when they say it's a race issue. You'd think people would have enough common sense to you know, listen to the people who experience racism and whatnot. Ho hum.
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but continuing on the church of michael brown sr was firebombed last night, clearly not an act of people rioting in protest of the non-indictment there are numerous videos and photos circling right now of police being the ones starting the aggression, the ones who are firing at civilians and cracking down on them they are the ones with weaponry Quote:
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Yes, asking for Wilsons death is supporting justice....if you believe in shari'ah. You sit here and openly oppose the killing of brown but openly support a group that is asking for another mans head. So now YOU decide what is justice? Come on just TRY and be a little objective. Is the situation sad? Yes. Do I wish an 18 yr old didn't die? Yes. HOWEVER the jury thinks the officer acted within his rights AND violence only breeds more violence. To assert your own justice is not only morally corrupt but who are any of us to judge this man?
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Is having to give up his law enforcement career permanently and start over with another vocation not a punishment? I would also note that money he gets will 90% go to civil reimbursement to Brown's family same as OJ paid for his doings.
EDIT: Sorry forgot important info...he now has ptsd almost assuredly and has blood on his hands. So getting another job will be near impossible. His interviews and maybe writing a book will be his permanent income and if that runs out...it is welfare time. I mention ptsd because I know what if feels like fearing for your life for a living(military) and this situation will most assuredly have a mental effect on this man unless he is simply inhuman. |
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There is no denying the fact he got punched by a 6'4 292 lb man. Only ONE witness said he didn't and what a surprise that witness was the buddy that was walking with Mr.Brown. Also the Brown family would have probably had a day in real court if their hired Autopsy specialist was not caught lying about the trajectory of the bullet that grazed Michael's head. EDIT: He may have been 18. But that 18 yr old is twice my size and I am a 27 yr old MAN. |
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Also, 2 people allegedly getting arrested for unrelated charges, even if true, is not synonymous with a hate group having influence on a legal system. Anyways, y'all are free to read the jury transcript here. If, after reading this, you still support Darren Wilson and can't realize this is about race & racist/corrupt legal systems then...I honestly don't know what to tell you. He wasn't even cross examined. I'd also like to point out that those New Black Panther members allegedly getting arrested for planning to harm people whilst a group of KKK members HANDS OUT FLYERS AND ANNOUNCED ON LIVE TV that they're going to shoot/harm protesters and they aren't arrested is an example of white privilege. |
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I came from a town near St. Louis where they had few thugs but they had black people. I didn't get that impression of them because I didn't have a reason to. But when I see a majority of the black people in my area now I'm forced to have that impression on them, or at least the ones in my area. If they don't wanna be perceived as a thug then don't act like one, act like a normal human being. If other blacks can do it they can. |
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