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DRCM November 26th, 2014 1:52 AM

Who are you/will you be using for Surf?
 
As the topic suggests. Which pokemon are you using for surf in ORAS? Also, is it just a HM slave, or an actual member of your party?

As for me, I'd like a Skrelp/Dragalgae. It'd be a part of my team, as well. I'd need to catch another surfer to find a Skrelp, but I'd just box that one straight away.

Hikamaru November 26th, 2014 2:16 AM

I'll be sticking to actual party members, but if an HM Slave is needed I may use one. My Swampert can be my resident surfer (even if it's more of a physical attacker but special stats aren't bad either) but I know I may definitely recruit Kyogre in the postgame for the fact I'll be riding on it.

YellowTemperance November 26th, 2014 2:56 AM

I typically try to use my Starter, always on my team, as the Surf and water-HM move user, but I decided to do different this run and use a Pelipper for Surf in the early game and switch to Kyogre in the late game after I caught it. I wanted to reserve my Swampert's movepool for my Secret Base team.

Musica November 26th, 2014 4:59 AM

Sharpedo for x2 surfing speed!

Thursday November 26th, 2014 5:01 AM

I have a Gyarados right now that has basically turned into a HM slave (Dive, Waterfall, Surf) but my original intentions for it were to have a nice water Pokemon. Didn't want to have to box another Pokemon so I just stuffed all my water-type HMs onto it.

Sabrewulf238 November 26th, 2014 5:10 AM

I intend to have a Ludicolo on my team, so he'll be my surfer.

Death November 26th, 2014 5:23 AM

Linoone (HM slave), most likely. I don't really want to give my sharpedo a special move.

Sebastian_Sommer November 26th, 2014 8:05 AM

I gave this HM to my Lanturn who is part of my team in Alpha Sapphire, it seems to be making good use of it since it's a SP attacker and it deals reliable damage.

Judge Mandolore Shepard November 26th, 2014 8:14 AM

I taught Surf to my starter, which is Swampert since Surf is part of his final move set.

Spinosaurus November 26th, 2014 8:22 AM

Kyogre on Alpha Sapphire. So rad that he gets his own model.

Zangofete November 26th, 2014 9:17 AM

I used wingul originally this time probably a HM slave zigzagoon/linoone, gotta get dat pickup

RedJ November 26th, 2014 9:28 AM

For the main story I used my Swampert, but now I use Sharpedo...even though I don't really need to Surf that often now that I have the Eon Flute.

Emboar November 26th, 2014 10:11 AM

I put it on my Pelipper, which really needed a good attack because it's attacks were really weak. I would've put it on my Latias, but I needed to put Dive and Waterfall on that, and I wanted to keep it's STAB moves.

Meganium November 26th, 2014 12:59 PM

For now, Linoone...until I find a Feebas and evolve it to Milotic. That's for OR.

For AS, probably Whiscash.

Pendraflare November 26th, 2014 1:05 PM

I used my starter, a Swampert, for surfing. Since I had that to use there wasn't really anything else I would have a need to give it to. I had an Azumarill for HMs, but I stuck with Dive and Waterfall for that.

Bounsweet November 26th, 2014 1:35 PM

I'm using my Milotic as it's part of my in-game team, but when I'm exploring or I want to get somewhere in a hurry, that Sharpedo 2x Surf and Dive speed really comes in handy. Plus, it gets its own model!

Alex November 26th, 2014 1:53 PM

Zigzagoon always acts my early game HM slave but once I caught a Feebas, Milotic became my primary surfer and water attacker in the party. I love him!

Candy November 26th, 2014 2:14 PM

Eh, Alpha Sapphire will go with Kyogre. As for Omega Ruby... I'm conflicted between Sharpedo and Milotic. Maybe Sharpedo post-game? Eh, idk.

Or I can always go with Linoone, but Covet...

Or I can go with my old Water HM (+Flash) slave Lombre, but I'll need to evolve the Lotad I was traded.

antemortem November 26th, 2014 5:36 PM

I was previously using a Zigzagoon (that eventually became Linoone by virtue of the EXP Share) but since I caught Latias, I gave it Surf. I'll probably be using the Latias as my Surfer for awhile. I'm not really sure where the last two slots on my team are headed so that could change at any point.

adameastment November 26th, 2014 5:52 PM

When I get the game I will probably play it like I have done previously, and get a Zigzagoon and use that as my initial HM slave. Then move onto others like Sharpedo as soon as I can, especially seeing as it would come in handy for Mossdeep :D

SkyRyder November 26th, 2014 5:59 PM

I've been using Sharpedo to surf. Thankfully it has decent special attack (I'll definitely use Waterfall more than Surf once I get it though).

I've never really used Sharpedo in-game before, and I felt that now was a good time to use it due to its special new mechanic: x2 surfing speed! That, plus super repels makes traversing through Hoenn's oceans very convenient.

clbgolden November 26th, 2014 8:30 PM

I used my Swampert to surf. Thinking about changing to Kyogre, though...

Outsethero November 27th, 2014 10:17 AM

EDIT: I've restarted my game and am no longer using HM slaves. For the time being, at least. At the moment I plan to use my soon-to-be Exploud, though I might use a Carvanha/Sharpedo. I'll update this once I actually know what I'll be using. xD

J a s m i n e © November 27th, 2014 12:15 PM

My Swampert. I always give my water starters Surf. I usually give Waterfall to Goldeen and Dive to Gyarados.

Maggs November 27th, 2014 1:20 PM

I'll use Sharpedo x2 surf speed FTW!!! Also, he's named jetsky

vrum vrum

QueenNatSumi November 27th, 2014 2:22 PM

I use a wailmur. Maybe one day ill evolve it.

Altairis November 29th, 2014 1:39 PM

I gave Milotic both Waterfall and Surf because I didn't have anything else to replace Waterfall with. I used a Wailmer slave for Dive.

TwilightBlade November 29th, 2014 2:43 PM

I used Azumarill and Latias at some point during the story. My surfing Pokemon is now Sharpedo for the speed.

Bellsprout November 29th, 2014 5:28 PM

I went with Walrein. Back in rse Walrein was a favorite of mine and just a typical staple of my teams then. So it felt like betrayal using any other hoenn water type. Plus I really missed Walrein... I've been trying to avoid using any third generation Pokemon since the end of the sinnoh games so I could be hyped up for this remake loool

Nakala Pri November 29th, 2014 6:47 PM

Well, currently I'm using my Linoone. I'm not sure what I'm going to do for a Water type. :( Maybe I'll get a Walrein, too! :^D

Legobricks November 30th, 2014 10:20 AM

Good question. Given this is Hōen, I'll be spending a lot of time with my choice. I decided upon Gorebyss yesterday or so but I don't know what I'll do for Waterfall and Dive... probably Wailord; that might be fun, and it can be the initial surfer for a time since I'll be diving for Clamperls.

keranie November 30th, 2014 10:27 AM

Sharpedo cause he's fast :)

Oddi November 30th, 2014 1:32 PM

I have my precious Slowking surfing for me, with my Poliwrath for dive and waterfall

Kameken November 30th, 2014 1:38 PM

I ended up spending two hours in area nav looking for a speed boost carvahna, and now use it as a sharpedo for all water-based transportation.

Red_wolf1998 November 30th, 2014 4:48 PM

Me and my Linoone (aptly named HM ******) don't get along too well, he can have all of the HM's.

Sheep December 1st, 2014 10:59 AM

I used my trusty Zigzagoon as a surfer up until I caught Wailmer, which is the 'mon I surf on now. Reaaaally need to get a water type to use on my team but I didn't feel like teaching anyone HMs like Waterfall and Dive so I ended up keeping him as an all-around slave, heheh.

Creator Limbs December 1st, 2014 12:03 PM

I'm using Tentacruel for Waterfall, Surf, and Dive. It's an HM slave.

HMs aren't necessarily bad but I rarely use those moves for anything other than the games obstacles...

Dedenne1 December 1st, 2014 4:05 PM

When i originally played the original games i found it difficult i had to fish for a water type which i believe ended up being tentacool or goldeen i think i used both haha. For Oras i used swampert who is my contest star but i did take him off the team and im training a sealeo although im happy dive is back its kinda bothersome that it needs to know 3 water type moves (surf, waterfall, dive). Which only leaves 1 move for itself unless u have someone else on ur team that can learn surf ik some other than water types can learn it.

ArcanineWithABow December 1st, 2014 6:36 PM

My water type on my team always learns Surf...it's like the only HM I would teach my Pokemon.

At this time it's a cross between Milotic and Gyarados.

Starry Windy December 1st, 2014 11:19 PM

I'll use my Linoone to Surf with me if I'll get the TM soon, just like what I did in my X playthrough.

ΩRαS December 2nd, 2014 4:48 AM

With Zigzagoon sitting in my party (HM Slave) she eventually evolved into Linoone which I taught Surf after my fifth gym badge to cross the water on Route 118 and receive the Good Rod.

On the same route I caught myself a Carvanha (now a Sharpedo) so I use him to surf since he's a member of my team.
Having his own surfing sprite and increased speed when surfing just makes its even better!

starseed galaxy auticorn December 2nd, 2014 7:45 AM

Kyogre is an awesome surfer and diver too, so I'll be using him. :3 I got him in a trade from GTS, and I adore him so much!

Candy December 2nd, 2014 8:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candela (Post 8510396)
Eh, Alpha Sapphire will go with Kyogre. As for Omega Ruby... I'm conflicted between Sharpedo and Milotic. Maybe Sharpedo post-game? Eh, idk.

Or I can always go with Linoone, but Covet...

Or I can go with my old Water HM (+Flash) slave Lombre, but I'll need to evolve the Lotad I was traded.

Okay, so here's how it ended up in Omega Ruby:

Linoone: Temporary Surf Slave 'til I caught Feebas
Milotic: Surf as one of her main attacks
Sharpedo: Deleted Milotic's Surf to replace it with Ice Beam, so I used him instead to navigate through the huge water routes of Hoenn.
Taught Milotic again: Because I want to go to my Secret Base freely <<

elife December 2nd, 2014 11:39 AM

Swampert (I have it as a temporary HM slave, until I end exploring), but it will be removed as soon as I don't need it for going on. Then it'll be a random one, or a pokemon with good sp.att.

I normally used Pelliper, Ludicolo or Milotic, but I still don't have any of those.

icycatelf December 2nd, 2014 11:48 AM

Ludicolo is the only Hoenn Pokémon capable of learning Surf that I never really used before (aside from Crawdaunt, a Pokémon I've always disliked), so that ended up being my Surfer as well as the reason I got Alpha Sapphire.

Now that I've beaten the Elite Four, however, I have 2 Surfers on my team: Wartortle and Lapras (both Shiny).

Kikaito plush December 3rd, 2014 8:56 AM

I am using an Swampert as my surf pokemon

curiousnathan December 4th, 2014 8:14 PM

I've recently caught a Feebas which I've taught Surf. I personally think it was a good move, considering it will be a permanent member of my team!

Pepperton December 5th, 2014 3:03 PM

Currently I'm using Latias, but I'm going to catch a Horsea as soon as I can acquire the Super Rod.

pkmin3033 December 5th, 2014 11:16 PM

I was using an Azumarill I caught as a Marill for this type of thing, but now I'm using Latias, since she's replaced the Trapinch I was going to have on my team and...eh, Surf is a good move. It means I don't have to keep swapping team members out now as well, since there is a lot of Surfing in my future.

SparklingMistral December 12th, 2014 6:19 PM

I used Tentacruel on my first hall of fame team. I wanted to use Gyarados, but I ended up finding Tentacool first, so I just went with that. Zigzagoon's become the Surfer for my second hall of fame team.

Xela December 12th, 2014 7:49 PM

I was using Milotic who was a part of my main team until I decided to toy around with a random Huge Power Azumarill that I found, but quickly switched back as I couldn't be bothered to grind him up to the right levels.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire December 13th, 2014 1:21 AM

Linoone up until the fourth gym, since then it had to share the role with Tentacool (occasionally Wailmer) up until I reached the League, then it became all Tentacool up to the present.

Mesty92 December 13th, 2014 3:16 AM

I had Gyrados and he was an actual team member. I switched him for the Elite 4 though.

Warspirit December 14th, 2014 4:23 PM

I'm going to be using my Gyarados since he is already a member of my team and he needs a water move. I would use zigzagoon but nah.

Gardevoir the Dragon Slayer December 15th, 2014 9:56 AM

I used Hariyama, I didn't want a water pokemon in my party on this play through so Hariyama was perfect.

PlatinumDude December 15th, 2014 10:05 AM

I had Lombre as a Surfer for the water section in Route 118, but I switched to Latias.

Mawa December 15th, 2014 11:30 AM

For now I have Linoon (surf, cut, strenght and rock smash) but I will switch it when I need dive and others water type HM

ChikoritaCheezits December 15th, 2014 11:51 AM

I'm using my Swampert for surf. Surf is probably the best HM for battle since most of the HM moves suck in battle. I prefer it to Hydro Pump because well Hydro Pump is stronger, at least this has 100% accuracy.

Nusdogg December 16th, 2014 5:12 PM

I'm using my awesome Kyogre. :D Thing looks beast even when it's surfing.

ZenonPrototype December 17th, 2014 8:30 AM

I am currently using a Sharpedo (hate me all you want), because he's way faster than any of the other surf-enabled Pokemon and his surf sprite is awesome.

SleepingTyrant December 17th, 2014 8:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRCM (Post 8509720)
Also, is it just a HM slave, or an actual member of your party?

same thing in my case.
I use a pickup team, that focuses on ability>power.

Unfortunately, there aren't any pickups that can learn dive or waterfall; so, i'm using a wailmer as a hm slave for those.

EagleVision1999 December 17th, 2014 4:49 PM

Omega Rubin was strange because this is like the first game where I didn't have room for an hm slave. This is because I've assembled my team early on (via the wonders of Pokemon Bank). On Y I got a shiny Mudkip via Wondertrade (seems perfectly legit...I sure hope the trader in question liked my EM Dream Ball Ponyta) and used this as my water Pokemon straight from the beginning (well, as soon as I got to the first Pokemon center). So my surfer is my (now) Swampert.
I keep meaning to try out Sharpedo, but...well I'd have to train it first.

Queen Crobat January 6th, 2015 7:15 PM

I might teach my Milotic surf, since it's a decent water type move in battle, but I have a 5 Pokemon team and a permanent space for an hm slave. I have a heracross for rock smash, cut, and strength (plus secret power), and I'll use a Walmer for the other water hms (dive and waterfall), but I'm not sure what happens when you dive if one pokemon knows surf and a different one knows dive...

Stormerbuzz35 January 6th, 2015 10:16 PM

Using Zigzagoon as HM slave. Gna get a random Sharpedo to take over though with surf, dive and waterfall.

ReiXMinako January 6th, 2015 10:21 PM

I've been using the Sharpedo from the Aqua grunt. It really helps out when I'm collecting flags. Although I recently hit 1000+ flags, so I probably won't be doing much of that anymore...

Starry Windy January 7th, 2015 1:09 AM

Currently I've been switching my Surfing user from Linoone to Sharpedo, which I got from the Aqua grunt. It's pretty decent because it's one of the fastest surfer around.

Shishoki January 7th, 2015 3:03 PM

I use Sharpedo as an HM slave. It can learn all water HM's as well as Strength and Rock Smash. It's also fast which I like because anything under the mach bike speed annoys me

Frozocrone January 7th, 2015 6:01 PM

I will be using my Latias on my AS playthrough, even with my Swampert (all physical set for him).

On my OR game, I currently have Linoone as a HM Slave, packing Cut, Rock Smash, Strength and Surf

PeckanPie January 7th, 2015 6:59 PM

Got me that HM Slave Zigzagoon at the start in AS.

I'm going to try not to use an HM Slave for my OR run if I do it normally though. May have to if I do something like a solo play through or nuzlocke of some sort.

LilyAnn January 7th, 2015 9:53 PM

I have just been using my Greninja for surf xD It was the only water type I had available to use for surf. At some point I'll probably switch it for another pokemon so I can teach it better moves.

faf January 7th, 2015 10:00 PM

Used Zigzagoon from start to finish since I was only doing a solo run in Omega Ruby.

Yeeeeeeeeah!

For Alpha Sapphire, I might have Ludicolo for Surf since I'm planning on a Grass mono team.

dad January 8th, 2015 4:30 PM

right now its lombre (my hm slave) but i might teach it to my whiscash whenever i catch a shiny barboach. i think lombre is pretty good for teaching everything, i think he knows strength, rock smash, surf and dive.

Alumens January 10th, 2015 4:35 AM

My Swampert will do! I usually give Surf to all water starters since their special attack is not that bad

Tek January 10th, 2015 12:56 PM

Gyarados and Skarmory are my Hoenn HM Buddies. I've got all the field moves between the two of them.

jombii January 10th, 2015 7:10 PM

Swampert is my go-to surfer as it is a part of my team now. However, if I acquire Waterfall, I think I'll be going with it on my Swampy and give Surf to Wailmer as an HM Slave.

Registration January 11th, 2015 5:52 AM

I use a heliolisk competitively and for surfing. I still need a sharpedo though, I love that pokemon.

Merkunator January 11th, 2015 6:45 AM

Tentacruel is my HM slave. Surf, Dive, Waterfall, Cut

Alfieri January 11th, 2015 7:17 AM

I used Milotic but after I beat the game, I switch between Sharpedo for speed and Kyogre because I like its overworld model.

Izzie January 11th, 2015 8:28 AM

My shiny Milotic, Erishana, is my surfing Pokémon =) she was actually the first Pokémon I raised to lvl 100 in Alpha Sapphire as well ^^

Hikamaru January 11th, 2015 8:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint Solomon (Post 8574114)
My Swampert will do! I usually give Surf to all water starters since their special attack is not that bad

I'm kinda in the same situation as this, given the Swampert I'm using has a +Sp. Atk nature, making me go down a more mixed route with him. I may end up switching the moveset once I get access to Lilycove's Move Deleter though.

Venitardus January 11th, 2015 9:37 AM

Kyogre is my surf buddy. It was Latias before though.

pvnk-as-fvck January 11th, 2015 10:30 AM

I just used my Swampert for Surf but now I really wish I'd taught Surf to my Linoone instead because all of Swampert's moves are HM moves (Surf, Dive, Waterfall).

esperance January 11th, 2015 12:57 PM

I used Gyarados for Surf for quite a while, before changing it to Feraligatr.

SvelteDonut January 13th, 2015 2:32 PM

I Surf on my Latios in OR and Latias in AS. I used to have surf on Greninja but have since replaced it with Waterfall.

DyingWillFlareon January 22nd, 2015 10:37 PM

I tend to use a real teammate in most games for HMs (excluding WhiteTwo. I wasnmt saying no to a free Zorua and lost my last team placement. XD) and went with Linoone. He's pretty boss too, alnog with Double Edge and Stength. XD
My Swampert gets taught Dive whenever I need it but gets retaught Return whenever I don't. :3
I... I think Swampert had Waterfall for a while there as well. =w=U

Lucifer January 23rd, 2015 12:22 AM

I've never in my life used a slave for surf.
Here in Alpha Sapphire as is my version I'm using my Seaking which has been a solid member of my now level 41-42 team since it's capture as level 5 Goldeen when I'd first arrived in Mauville. At least for now, I may switch it up sometime from now (Fortree) to Victory Road.

The only HMs I use slaves for are Rock Smash and sometimes strength. Possibly waterfall if a water type team member doesn't naturally learn it. Though for the first time I've actually managed to fit Rock Smash on my team with my Mightyena.

LyokoGirl5000 January 23rd, 2015 10:41 PM

I had my Ludicolo learn Surf. Swampert doesn't have the stats for it and I usually have two Water Types in Hoenn games anyway. Ludicolo is part of my main team. It was the first one I found and it has Teeter Dance. {<3}

Altairis January 24th, 2015 9:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Registration (Post 8575699)
I use a heliolisk competitively and for surfing. I still need a sharpedo though, I love that pokemon.

haha what Heliolisk can learn surf??

Also I might be a bit late to the party but I was exploring the sea routes the other day and discovered that if you Dive with a Wailmer then there's actually a special sprite for it! Pretty cool.

Baggie_Saiyan January 25th, 2015 1:44 PM

I took Metang out my team and made Sharpedo my HM slave and poor Metang is still at 32 and Sharpedo is nearly at 60 lol Idk for some reason I don't care much for the Metagross family.

Pichu1236 February 7th, 2015 4:35 PM

As funny as it sounds I use my Hariyama. I was thinking about using an HM slave because i didn't have a water type but then i found out that Hariyama could use it.

Also i know its terrible on Hariyama because its a physical attacker but i just thought it was so hilarious at the time.

Pendraflare February 12th, 2015 7:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altairis (Post 8592878)
haha what Heliolisk can learn surf??

Also I might be a bit late to the party but I was exploring the sea routes the other day and discovered that if you Dive with a Wailmer then there's actually a special sprite for it! Pretty cool.

Yes, Heliolisk can indeed learn Surf. I remember giving it that for my Normal Monotype in Y back in July...

And my most recent go of Alpha Sapphire had me alternating between Swampert and Tentacruel for Surf, dropping the moves from another when I felt they weren't necessary. I mostly had it for the latter because it had higher Special Attack (and a Quiet nature, for that matter).

Thursday February 12th, 2015 8:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altairis (Post 8592878)
haha what Heliolisk can learn surf??

Also I might be a bit late to the party but I was exploring the sea routes the other day and discovered that if you Dive with a Wailmer then there's actually a special sprite for it! Pretty cool.

Yep! I had one in X that I used to surf around since I didn't want to give Surf to my Greninja.

As for ORAS, I use my Gyarados in AS and I used Barboach/Wailmer/Tentacruel in OR. Not sure why I have so many water Pokemon in OR o.o

SiriusDusk February 13th, 2015 4:17 PM

Lapras finally got the justice it deserved woot woot :D

ExeggutorTrainer February 14th, 2015 6:33 PM

Lombre Surf/Dive/Waterfall best pokemon ever :D

Powerserge February 14th, 2015 10:02 PM

Ludicolo. I use him competitively, so it works out well.

alzam February 15th, 2015 9:05 AM

I used my kabutops Hes a team meber

Venitardus February 15th, 2015 9:50 AM

I used tentacool/Kyogre for surf in AS, and I used my Swampert in my first run in OR. Right now I'm gunna use my frogadier for surf in my second run of OR

antemortem February 15th, 2015 9:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venitardus (Post 8619681)
I used tentacool/Kyogre for surf in AS, and I used my Swampert in my first run in OR. Right now I'm gunna use my frogadier for surf in my second run of OR

how could you tolerate having Surf on Swampert? lmao

Venitardus February 15th, 2015 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antemortem (Post 8619686)
how could you tolerate having Surf on Swampert? lmao

Well, I don't use Swampert in any competitive battling, and I had a full team by the time I got surf, so I just thought it to him so I didn't have to switch out a pokemon each time I wanted/needed to use surf. ;)

Drakonaait February 19th, 2015 12:49 PM

My shiny Sharpedo, I love that he has a custom sprite. It's rather unfortune that a shiny Sharpedo doesn't have a custom sprite.. :(


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