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[Spoiler] The worst fight in the game, last Delta episode encounter
Deoxys
Who decided this was ok? Psycho boost, Hyperbeam, Cosmic Power and Recover. Fine, that's a moveset he can have, who cares right? Except you only get 10 turns of attack, 15 if you count recharges, before Deoxys is left spamming recover and cosmic power, no big deal, right? Pressure and low catch rate say "have fun" with a sleeper, mixed with +6 defense against false swiping, oh and a LONG encounter before you can EVEN FIGHT HIM, you must catch Raqyuaza, beat Zinnia, and then watch the cutscene before you can encounter him again, there are no points to save in between. After two failed attempts with Deoxys knocking himself out, I said "**** it", I already have one, and I don't care enough to keep trying, but honestly, who thought this was ok? NO saves before a legendary after CATCHING ONE, and fighting a mandatory battle? Thanks GameFreak. |
I decided to knock it out (took two or three turns) and then go beat the Elite Four again to make it respawn later so I could reset for IVs/Nature without having to deal with everything that comes before the first encounter.
Reading this, I see that I apparently made the right decision <_< |
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And when I do, I will knock it out, because what a stupid idea by gamefreak, I feel sorry for people that will try over and over to catch it there, Deoxys is barely even worth the hassle. |
...Don't tell me you couldn't find, or even worse, wasted the Master Ball on another target. For a Pokemon like Deoxys, as high level as it is compared to the other legendaries you can capture, Master Ball is the easiest way to go. Heck, I saved my Ultra Balls and ported over my Aegislash with False Swipe from X to use to capture any other Legendaries I run into.
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Really the issue is just "why can't I save before this", it's a lot of stuff to go through without a save. |
When I battled Deoxys, my Mega Rayquaza OHKO'ed it with Dragon Pulse after it missed with Psycho Boost. And the cutscenes that show after it, despite being very cute, are long, so I decided to just say screw it and save afterward. I only had 32 Ultra Balls, anyway.
But yeah, this was not something I was thrilled by at all. First you're forced to catch Rayquaza, which isn't an easy feat on its own. They may have done that with Zekrom/Reshiram in BW and Xerneas/Yveltal in XY, but at least their catch rates were pretty high so catching them wasn't as big a concern, and using them was optional. Rayquaza still has its super low catch rate, and Dragon Dance doesn't help. But it was very cumbersome, yes, having to catch Rayquaza, immediately battle Zinnia afterward, then a cutscene before Deoxys, battle Deoxys and then another super long cutscene before you can even check its stats. Not a very well executed series of events. :/ |
Here's what I did:
First I paralyzed Deoxys with Nuzzle, then I used Hold Back to get it to one HP. I then threw three Great Balls at it and caught it. I thought it had a high catch rate? |
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I KOd Deoxys, but caught it on my 5th try w/ a regular Pokeball. I caught Rayquaza w/ a Quick Ball on my first try :3.
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I guess if it was a normal legendary I'd be mad too, but Deoxys IS an event Pokemon, the first one availble through normal play, and possibly the true final boss. I guess the difficulty is a bit justified in that case.
But on the bright side hey, at least it doesn't know Supernova! |
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Meanwhile after 25 ultra balls, twice, Deoxys kills itself. Deoxys has a catchrate of 3, basically the lowest. Meanwhile Rayquaza has a catchrate of an amazing 3, basically the lowest. I get that RNG is a thing, and throwing the first five pokeballs at a full health Mewtwo shouldn't catch it, but there's a point where GameFreak should really try to make the rates a bit higher, especially when BWB2W2 did it better already, and with ridiculous cutscenes. For perspective, Zekrom's catchrate is 45, which is a 1/17 or so chance at full health with a pokeball and no status ailment. |
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I just used the master ball, first turn. |
I didn't know we can encounter it again...
I end up wasting my Masterball. i believe the catch rates have been twisted for some of the Pokemon in ORAS anyway. Zekrom and Dialga wasn't that easy compared to BWB2W2 and DPPt. Rayquaza should get an increment because you have to catch it to advance further. |
I was sure that the catch rates had been changed for these games. To make it easier for young kids, I thought?
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It makes sense, cause all the Pokemon with a lower catch rate might be unfamiliar with people and don't want to be captured. Darkrai has a catch rate of three, but it hates being around others because it causes unending nightmares to all its immediate vicinity. |
Yeah they make you catch Rayquaza, so no doubt there's a lower capture rate. Caught it full health on first Pokeball haha.
For Deoxys, after it Psycho Boosted a couple times my Lunatone was able to sit and watch while I chucked Pokeballs. Caught it eventually after like 40 balls at full health. |
Wait, so if Deoxys's catch rate wasn't actually changed...
does that mean I actually got lucky catching a legendary for once?! 0_0 It's a pre-Thanksgiving miracle! |
I thought the battle was fun :3
I don't use legendaries in competitive battles ( don't like Uber tier) so it was just me riding along with the story. I enjoyed the episode. It was a challenge for me because I let him get all his def and spdef up. I like that challenge of it. Something I haven't had really this generation. |
I thought it was fun. :)
this is what i did (first try): I sent out Manectric, used Thunder Fang to paralyze it, kept using thunder fang (cause it didn't do that much) to get it to low hp. threw some Ultra balls and got it.(around 5 to 7 Ultra balls) |
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I must have pretty much lucked out then, because I had to restart to capture Deoxys (Because again, I knew nothing about it being able to be encountered again later) and Rayquaza was as easy BOTH times. Dialga and Zekrom was so hard for me, compared to back in Diamond and White. I believe that Capture Rates are and should have been twisted to make them higher for Pokemon whom need to be rescued/ join the party for advancement. |
I could easily take out Deoxys, but catching it was the problem.
I used my Master Ball on Rayquaza, thinking he'd be harder to catch. Tried catching the Deoxys with other balls, but then just gave up and killed it. |
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