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How many times did you lose to Steven
It took me 4 times to beat Steven he wreaked me 3 times, curious if anyone else lost to him and if so how many times?
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I didn't lose to Steven because I put a lot of time into training early in the game and I kept re-challenging Trainers over and over. I did find him really troublesome, that said. Since on my Pokémon was an Ice-type and it was transported from another game, meaning that it levelled up quicker than the rest of my team. I ultimately had a big advantage. I spent most of the battle fighting him with my non-type advantage Pokémon.
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I beat him on my first try; updated mechanics and movepools really help with that. And I wasn't underleveled for once.
I did lose to him once on my recent Water monotype run on my old Ruby though. |
I beat him my first go around. I let him beat me all the other times I battled him because I'm not about to go through the long credit scene again, especially when I only repeat fight him for Exp quickly
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Here he was just as easy as ever. In my first time battling him, I came very close to beating him without any of my Pokémon fainting or using any items despite my team all being Level 52, and I would have if my Flygon hadn't missed with Draco Meteor against his Armaldo. And on the rematch, I did, using all six of my team members each both times (seriously, Carbink?). So yeah, this wasn't very tough for me.
But we'll see if he ends up being any tougher when I face him in a challenge or something. |
The question should be "how many times did Steven lose to you?"
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First go I blasted through the elite 4 no probs as my team was designed to crush them quickly, nearly did Steven then when I had just Mega Absol left and him Mega Metagross things went wrong. A Quick soft reset later and He was easily pummeled (It was that he ran skarmory first whist I ran hariyama first to smash through his Steel and Rocks so after taking Skarmory out it was a clear run with Hariyama and Mega Absol).
I think in some ways Steven can be tough compared to other champs because he uses high defense stat pokes much more of a challenge than Diantha who was the easiest champ ever. |
First time I played on the GBA I think it was about 3-4 times. Haven't gotten to him yet now. I will update when I do, but I don't think I'll lose to him. I'm going in only when I'm ready and by then I will have plenty of guys to beat him up with.
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yeah, he caught me off guard the first time. well, his mega metagross did. i probably would have won if i had more revives and lemonade, but i ran out soon after beginning the battle. the second time around my levels were a bit higher and i swept him with my ludicolo :3
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Strangely, I didn't lose to him at all, and I don't think my team was exactly strong.
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I have never lost to Steven. This is because I have a strong team. Plus I know to have a type advantage over his Pokemon.
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Miraculously beaten him on first try. It was more like sweeping his team 'til Metagross came out, and then he proceeds to sweep my team 'til Delcatty was left.
And then miraculously, Delcatty endured an attack that I was sure will knock her out. And then Sing managed to hit it. And then I proceeded to attack with Shadow Ball 'til it was close to fainting. I thought it will wake up now and deal the finishing blow on her, since if I waste even a single turn to heal I'll be in a rather tight spot where I'm on the defending side. Miraculously, it stayed asleep as I hit the finishing blow on it with Shadow Ball. Let's say that this is the first time since Cynthia and HGSS Lance that I was close to blacking out. |
I beat him on my first attempt. Unfortunately I was too overlevelled despite having tried not to train too much xP
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He was tougher than the rest of the Elite 4, but he was still rather easy. I don't think any of my Pokémon fainted during my battle against him, actually xD;
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I bet him the first try. I thought I was going to lose to him the 2nd time around, but I beat him then too.
I was a level or 2 over his the first time, under leveled by 3-7 lvls the second time around. |
well, I was out of heals when i got to Steven. I lost the first time. He was down to just his metagross, and I only had my gourgeist. Took a meteor mash, burned him with will-o-wisp, and then he got a crit on the next meteor mash.
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Steven is manageable, besides that metagross. He's more annoying than powerful, but he's obviously more difficult than Diantha.
I did not lose to him at all in ORAS, though his mega metagross wiped out 3 of my team members swiftly. I think giving it earthquake rather than giga impact would make it an even scarier contender. To be honest, I find him easier in the rematches. |
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If he had Earthquake instead of Giga Impact, he would have definitely been more difficult. I guess they just gave him Giga Impact to have a stupid powerful attack (which, with Tough Claws, is a massive 195 power) since Meteor Mash was cut, and Bullet Punch was something to pick off your low HP stuff but without something to use against Steel-types it's somewhat moot. (Although my Mega Swampert did less than half to him with Scald in the rain, but it burned him and allowed me to finish him with Earthquake...) |
If Shiftry didn't have Foul Play (which is LOL against Metagross) I'd have lost. And that's an egg move I got from DexNav!
My team was 10 levels lower anyway. |
I beat him on my first try, was easier than I expected.
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I OHKO'd most of his Pokemon so the battle breezed by with minimal effort on my part, and I had the Exp. Share off. No problems at all! Last time I had any issues with a champion was Cynthia in Diamond.. gosh the memories.
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I beat Steven on the first try. However, early on I lost to that Lass outside of the Petalburg Forest, the one with the Shroomish, so for all we know she could be Champion material.
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Steven was really easy for me. I beat him on the first try, and it wasn't even clutch !
I steamrolled his team, with a single moxie mightyena lvl 60, carrying a metronome ! (I steamrolled most of the E4 that way) It took a few turns to get it started against skarmory, but metronome really helped. I had to heal it once or twice though, because skarmory crited like 3 times in a row.. But after that everything got 0hko-ed, except aggron, because of its ability sturdy.(it wasn't much of an issue though) Mega-Metagross only had enough time to mega-evolve before it got hit with a +5, 100% metronome boosted, STAB, super-effective crunch to the face ! {<3} |
I beat him in the first try. My Torkoal did most of the work. I think Metagross defeated 2 of my pokemon and then I brought Torkoal back out and won.
Got to love Torkoal with charcoal. :p |
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I've not filled in the poll yet, because I'm still trying. The first time I fought him he caught me off guard with his Cardily who wiped four out of five of my Pokémon.
The fact that his Pokémon are level 57 caught me off guard as well - my Pokémon were 54 at highest, and stood no chance against his. I remember also having a lot of trouble fighting him in Emerald too. He's probably the hardest paired with Cynthia. |
He beat me once. His Megagross ended up getting me off guard, and he ended up finishing me with that. Second time around, I had a better idea of what was going to happen, so I was able to beat him easily.
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This brings back some old memories.
When I was six or seven, I played Sapphire for the first time. Me being young and all, I really only used my starter, plus a few other Pokeon. My only other team members I remembered was my Plusle, Plusy, and a Swablu I used to fly. I saved before Steven, and got owned many times over. My poor Blaziken's Blaze Kick just did not cut it. Finally, after many tries, I managed to take the champion down. Fast forward to these remakes, I was able to beat Steven, with my Pokemon in the high fourties, on my first attempt. My Metagross really helped with taking down his Metagross, who just loved to use Giga impact on me. |
I lost once against Steven, but not in the first time. When his Metagross is at almost lv 80 and megaevolves, it can be a pain in the ass. He beat me the first time. At least I saved before battling him and won the second time, defeating his Metagross with Crobat, Bite, and tons of luck
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I beat everyone first try. My Pinsir I got in a trade came in handy. He knew Guillotine.
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i beat him at my first try :)
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I lost to him once and then the second time I won.
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During the second bought with him when his team are in the 70's i did lose, but thats because i had neglected to train a pokemon that could SE hits on his steel types. His metagross at the end won him the match because all i had at this point was my Mega Gardevour... Second time round though i made adequate changes and beat him. Still didn't use a fire type though haha
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Meh, I beat him on the first try. Must. Not. Try. To. Rub. It. In.
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Like most, I've beat him on the first try but with only one Pokemon. Skarmory was more of a threat to Scrafty due to Toxic and Aerial Ace (thank goodness for no Brave Bird) and plus, I was running a DD variant so after setting up on Skarm, Scrafty floored his team.
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I haven't lost to him. I just rematched the E4 actually so I could get the Sinnoh starters from Birch, and both times my Beautifly OHKO'd his Mega Metagross with Bug Buzz, LMFAO.
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Steven was not difficult whatsoever with Camerupt and Mega Swampert present, haha. I beat him 6-0 on my first attempt. Thank God, though, because fighting the Elite Four was tedious, what with their introductions. |
at least once.... back in the day his fossile thingywas easy now not so much xD
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It's pretty interesting, because you can sweep the entire Elite 4 with an Azumarill, but he's not quite as useful on Steven.
I came close to losing to him while I was training a Hydreigon the other day. His Aerodactyl got a crit ice fang on my Garchomp and I had to improvise. Ended up getting the final hit on his Metagross with an aura sphere from Mewtwo. |
I rather enjoyed how the credits showed what pokemon you used to triumph over certain areas
I beat Steven on my first try with my team all between level 48-55 I took down his level 59 Mega Metagross with a level 48 Mightyena using fire fang... Pokemon-Amie and Super Training break this game on so many levels... |
I didn't lose to Steven in the first battle or the rematch, though I actually came closer to losing in the first battle than I did in the rematch.
The first time I battled him, all of my Pokemon were Level 48-54 or something like that, and the biggest problem I faced was actually his Cradily. His Metagross was taken down easily thanks to my Mega Manectric paralyzing it and therefore removing the one thing that made it so threatening - the fact that it could heavy damage before most of my Pokemon could even attack it - but his Cradily got absurdly lucky with Ancient Power and got the boost to all stats twice. After the Delta Episode, I went into the Elite 4 with extremely underleveled Pokemon (and quite a few Hyper Potions and Revives, of course) just to see how far I would get. My team was the same as in the first battle, but about 5-7 Levels higher and with Primal Groudon instead of a HM Slave. I managed to get to Steven (and I learned that the AI is terrible at battling against Primal Groudon in the process of doing so), and obviously had a large level disadvantage, but managed to beat him thanks to a combination of Primal Groudon being amazing, Mega Manectric being extremely useful by paralyzing things, some of Steven's Pokemon being pretty bad (Skarmory spends most of its time trying to set up with Spikes, Carbink is terrible, Aerodactyl has good type coverage but weak moves, etc...), and luck. Honestly, this really does show that the Exp Share isn't necessarily the only thing making the more recent games seem easier - in this game I think the main factors that remove most of the difficulty are Mega Evolution/Primal Reversion, and DexNav, though the former is much less time consuming than the latter. |
I didn't lose to him. I had my team planned out for the guy since the beginning of the game. xD I like making sure that I have a team that can beat the Champion so I don't lose :3
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I beat Steven, first try. It was easy. I actually haven't lost a single battle yet, and here I am, having beaten the Delta Episode.
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Steven was one of the most difficult NPC battles I've had in recent memory. My Aggron barely took out his Metagross with 6 HP remaining and the rest of my team fainted. It was a nail biter. Kudos to Nintendo for making it so challenging.
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Not one problem at all. I solo'd most of the Elite 4 with just my Swampert. Steven was sadly a piece of cake. He was no challenge at all. It was close to being a 6-0 battle, but he finally took out my Swampert. I kind of expected more of a fight, especially how most spoilers said it was much harder than Cynthia will ever be. I got pretty excited, finally a decent Pokemon battle? Nope. I wasn't even godly Over Leveled. I was around the same level as the E4 and Steven. The second round is a joke too. Carbink? Seriously? Every time I battle Steven for now on, he always switches out his Carbink for a different Pokemon. Also..Giga Impact..seriously? xD
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I lost once, his Metagross wrecked me. I was underleveled too. Got him the second time though.
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on GBA version, 20 tries on saphire. i was also realy bad at the game, i tried to avoid almost every trainer, and i only used my blaziken the entire game.
on AS though i OHKOd everything except claydol (because i was stupid and i didnt switch out). ended up KOing Mega metagross with primal kyogre. was epic 10/10 would smash again. |
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One of the most beautiful things about ORAS that was introduced is that after the first time you watch credits, you can skip them by hitting the A button from then on. xD Anyways, I also beat him my first try rather quickly. His Metagross took my team from 5 to 1 though, ended up coming down to a final turn of 2 red health Pokemon. We pulled it off, though. :) |
It took me one time to defeat Steven, but my Pokémon were at extremely high levels. My weakest Pokémon was level 69 I think? I thought this was weird because my Pokémon were growing very fast & whatever gym leader I was going against I was at least ten levels up. I don't like how easy Nintendo has made Pokémon. I remember in the first gens it was extremely hard to beat a gym leader (for example in Pokémon Blue & Red going against your rival was hard). Does anyone else feel this way?
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The difficulty back then may have been because of the fact that RBY was the first installment in the franchise. You knew a lot less about the game and may have gone about it a different way out of ignorance. Go back and play RBY today, as I have. Other than having to get used to type matchups/Special instead of SP Att and Def/and a lack of a physical/special split, I guarantee you'd have just an easy time with it, if not easier than current games. I have, and this is what I've found, despite remembering it being far more difficult as a child. Just a thought. |
I've beaten him on the first try, with Cosplay Pikachu being my only casualty. My team was at an equal level with his team.
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Steven wasn't difficult for me. I swept the Elite Four and beat him on my first try, with my Pokémon all being between levels 48-50.
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Defeated him on my first try, but only with one Pokémon left. My Delphox barely won. That Mega Metagross sure was a pain with that damn Giga Impact.
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I ended up beating him on my first try really easily. Like, no healing items were involved whatsoever. In fact, I don't think I've had a game over in AS since I began... which isn't good, especially considering RSE were (and still are, to be honest), in my opinion, the hardest Pokémon games. I don't like that they've been made easier...
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None. Beat him twice as of today, just did the e4 rematch.
Swampert did most of the work with Surf and Earthquake. Really glad I made it a Mixpert since he only got off one of the screens with Claydol before I killed it. |
Beat him on my first try; I was caught off-guard by the team changes, nothing too bad though. My team was on par with Steven's in terms of level.
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I just managed to beat him today, on my first try, like most of the people that responded before me. He did manage to put up a fight, though... unlike most everyone else...
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During the first match, it was a close battle with 1 against 1 left. I beat him in 1 try though.
As for all the other rematches, clean sweeps. |
All my Pokes were about Level 56-57, The first time I fought him I almost lost and when I noticed I was about to lose I turned off the power because I saved. So that kinda counts.
The second attempt his Cradily was bloody annoying but I killed it. Metagross was the easiest to kill because I could just wall it with +2 Curse Torkoal. |
I didn't lose to him, but it wasn't a cakewalk either. I almost lost a couple of my Pokemon at one point; I think I just got lucky :P I turned off the EXP share towards the end of the game, but I was still probably around the same level as his Pokemon or higher, so that may have been a factor. Also, I had a lot of Full Restores.
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Exp Share destroyed any chance of me losing to anyone. Seriously, I was overleveled the entire game.
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I was doing a Nuzlocke, so I had no choice but to win on the first try. I had mega Swampert, so Mega Metagross wasn't too bad. The one that gave me the most trouble was actually Cradily. Dang thing refused to die D: I used my Exp Share sparingly, so I wasn't even close to over leveling.
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Even though I beat him on the first try, it was still a fun fight. I played the original, so I knew what was comming. The rematches were a lot closer though.
Atleast he was better than Zinnia. God, was she pathetically easy and so dissapointing, but oh well. |
I lost once because I didn't expect him to have a Mega Evolution. Every other Pokémon was a breeze.
I did change up a few moves with TMs to help counter it, but I ended up winning by repeatedly causing it to flinch with Swellow's Air Slash or whatever. After it was in red health (Steven already used up his Full Restores), it actually was able to attack. Swellow got knocked out in one shot, but Kyogre quickly defeated Metagross with Surf. |
I lost to him once. >:( He was so easy except for that god damn CRADILY WHICH HAS LITERALLY NO WEAKNESSES
Only won the second time because of my Ninetales' Will-O-Wisp. XD |
Beat him on my first try. Things got kinda dicey for abit with Armaldo and Cradily but I pulled through. Easily beat his Metagross with my Mega Aggron. One thing I can't figure out is why it kept using Giga Impact. Sure it's a strong move but I had double resistance and beastly defence. If he had whipped out a few Psychics, I woulda been in trouble.
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I beat him on my first try. The only Champion that gave me a problem was Lance back in Pokémon Silver, that was a Pain haha. Steve does have a good team though.
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I havent faced him yet lol.
I'm standing outside the elite 4 right now. My team are - Blaziken, Pikachu, Milotic, Swampert, Salamence and Metagross |
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I didn't lose to Steven. I found him quite easy, especially compared to R/S, but that's a given. I think my lowest leveled Pokemon was about 10+ levels higher then his Metagross, and I was using a team of about 16 Pokemon lol. Then again my first playthrough I do absolutely EVERYTHING so by the time I got to him I had about 70+ hours on my save. |
I only fought him once and I used a party that was about ten levels weaker than his team. The only Pokemon that fainted was my Azumarill and that was because I was just careless.
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My goooodness, Steven. My first time coming up against him, I completely destroyed his entire team. That is, his entire team except Metagross. I came so close, but Mega Metagross just completely decimated my team. My team wasn't really balanced at all, I had a lot of grass types, but that Mega Metagross power just completely caught me off guard.
When I went back through, I simply Mega evolved my Aggron instead of my Sceptile and Aggron was able to handle Mega Metagross. :P |
It took two or three tries because the first time I forgot to buy healing items and didn't realize it until I beat Glalie. And you know I wasn't getting ready to reset after that so he beat us pretty fast. Then I think I had to soft reset when we went through a second time, but thanks to Camerupt dodging the attack(I think it missed not from Pokemon Aime) she murdered his Mega-Gross with Eruption. XD
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Beat him on first try on my first run. IT was close though, had that megagross that was an idiot and used giga impact one too many times. I had the same levels as he did too so it was actually a perfectly fair fight. Second game through was two tries because I was severely under-leveled (seldom used the Exp. Share).
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First try. Of course I think was just because I had primal Kyogre and mega Metagross. I'm kind of nervous of fighting him in my wonderlocke.
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^ Yeah, see, those are the Pokémon that will surefire make it laughably easy. As it's been mentioned, if that Mega Metagross had Earthquake, it'd be much harder. Kinda wish they had changed his moves a little bit in the rematches like they did the Unova League, and Cynthia in Platinum.
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I beat the elite 4 on my first try, but on my second i lost to Lance but have beaten them every time after that so technically i haven lost My team:
CLOUDY (Altaria)- Lv. 100 TAKI (Blaziken)- Lv. 90 Alakazam- Lv. 94 ANVIL (Crawdaunt)- Lv. 85 ACORN (Shiftry)- Lv. 83 FROST (Walrein)- Lv. 65 |
Beat him on the first try like majority.
Had a Sceptile, Ninetails, Flygon, Seadra, Galalie and some other pokemon in my 6th Slot all around the 55- 60 level. First time playing him ever (since I never played the original) and found him as one of the more easier Champions to beat. |
Finally got to him again on my Alpha Sapphire run
His Mega Metagross actually took out my Mega Metagross, but since I wanted to beat him with my Mightyena, I wasn't discouraged (that Bullet Punch caught me off guard) Two Earthquakes would've KO'd him and I'm pretty sure Crunch would do the same This time, my team was ten levels higher than my Omega Ruby run, so it was laughably easy ...I was level 50 by the time I got to Primal Kyogre, so... |
I'm thinking of restarting the game and picking Treecko or Mudkip. Move all my current Pokemons to PokeBank. Trade certain items to my Pokemon Y game and trade em back to AS. I still haven't faced the Elite 4. I'm literally inside the Pokemon centre, standing outside the door that leads to the first Elite 4 trainer. I've just been challenging people to battles lol
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I beat Steven on my first try. Part of that had to do with having a Blaziken and a Sandslash, which destroyed most of his team. In the end, it came down to my Sandslash and Swellow against his Mega Metagross. Mega Metagross went for Giga Impact, which I thought would surely knock out my Sandslash and make me lose, but my Sandslash survived with 3 HP and, one Earthquake later, the battle was won.
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I won on my first try. I had a pretty well-rounded team and I took my time with the game, so by the time I got around to battling the Elite Four my Pokemon were like 10~20 levels stronger than Steven's.
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In my very first run on the original ruby i lost like 10+ times. I resetted a lot to beat him and used a lot of healing items. But on omega ruby run he was rather easy even when my pokémon were 50-55. I didn't use the exp share at all and I was on set + plus I decided no healing items in battle. In the first 3 gens I always used my starter for the whole game and just captured the legendary's that I could find. But for me the second gen was the hardest as a kid because I only had my starter and could never find the legendary's.
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Steven was a breeze. Not the clean sweep I'd wanted, but he didn't take much effort. Now I've to have my rematch, which will be clean sweep. But the first time I made it so it was my mega Metagross against his. needless-to-say mine won by a ton. I mean seriously, Giga Impact? Come now Steven, you're better than that XD
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I almost lost to Steven my first time but his mega metagross had to recharge and gave my swampert a free turn to finish the battle. I wound up beating him with my highest level pokemon at the same level as his metagross.
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I feel like he shot himself in the foot by giving you Metagross...
Basically it was a case of dealing with the rest of his team first, then countering his Metagross with my own. I remember my very first run through of Ruby and I just couldn't touch his Metagross with anything I had at the time, but this time it was a case of using my own, Mega Evolving it, then waiting him out. |
First thing I did upon getting the exp share was to disable it, and keep it disabled for the entire game. By the time I got through victory road, my team reached from level 40 to 45. I beat the elite four all on my first try, but only beat Steven on my second attempt. The first time, I think I spent a little too long against his Skarmory, and both times I lost my mega evolved Pokémon before getting to Metagross.
Also I never used Pokémon-Amie or Super Training. My team: Swampert Metagross (only evolved after beating Glacia) Gardevoir Shiftry Ninjask Castform (Ice focused) |
I never lost to Steven. I mean, I find more difficulty in Glacia than him.
Groudon wrecked his team down. |
Steven never was a challenge for me this generation. Though I still have yet to face him on my OR cart, so I've really only faced him once.
First time around in Gen 3 he was a challenge, but I still managed to beat him on the first try via some luck and a Blaziken/Kyogre tag team. |
I didn't lose at all.
Lumio the Fire fang Mightyena was able to KO most of his pokemon in between one to four hits (he was like level 79 or something), then when mega metagross came out and fainted Lumio, Lulu, the level 80 perfect-IV EV-trained Altairia, dropped mega metagross' hp to about half before he crit her D: Then Japas the Masquerain killed it with a Bug Buzz. It wasn't even a critical hit, just a Bug Buzz, and he was only level 78. The first thing I said when I beat him was "WELL. That was definitely harder than Diantha." because she was the easiest champion I've ever faced. |
Beat Steven On My First Try. I one hit KO'D Half his team (including Mega Metagross) with Primal Kyogre's Origin Pulse.That move is op as heck
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Did it on my first try easily because I was overleveled, but when I did the Elite 4 rematch, I got absolutely destroyed.
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I beat him first try in both OR and AS. He was surprisingly easy for me. Maybe it's because we were evenly matched, I dunno.
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I defeated Steven on my first attempt. He did K.O a couple of my team members, but I found him to be easier than expected.
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It's really not that difficult. My underleveled Lucario went nasty plot then swept with Aura Sphere and Dark Pulse o.o
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I didn't lose to him, because I had the awesome powerhouse that was Mega Swampert. In fact, my Swampert alone makes such short work of his rematch team.
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Seems we have more than a few people who opt for super buff mega vs super metal mega xP Yeah, that was how it went for me, as I mentioned, in the rematch it was even less of a hassle even though I only used Swampert against the Metagross in both goes.
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