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Aslan January 7th, 2015 4:38 PM

The article was a nice read from what I skimmed through. Originally, I thought it was going to be talking about all the new pokemon and how long it would take to complete the dex - but apparently not! Either way, I agree completely. Gen V was great for how fresh and new it was compared to the other mainseries games. New fans could dig into it while old fans would still enjoy the older aspects of pokemon incorporated into Gen V. The basic idea of beating the gym leaders and champion remained the same but there were a few tweaks here and there. Such as Team Plasma believing in the liberty of pokemon as opposed to the morals of capturing them (Team Galactic / Rocket). People were also forced to use new pokemon instead of knowing who was strong in previous games. Overall, I think that's what makes Gen V one of my favourites - it's new, it's different and it works.

Also I have to ask - how did you guys feel about having to exclusively use Gen V pokemon during the main storyline? Did you not like it or were you happy to use a full team of new pokemon?

Nah January 7th, 2015 5:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Aslan (Post 8570254)
Also I have to ask - how did you guys feel about having to exclusively use Gen V pokemon during the main storyline? Did you not like it or were you happy to use a full team of new pokemon?

I liked it. The last time we were forced to use only the new Pokemon during the main story was Gen I, so it was a sorta nice change of pace, especially since it forced you to learn about and try all the new ones instead of just goin' with yer old favorites again+whatever new shit is cool. Gen V had plenty of good pokes too (despite people complaining about the designs not being "creative" enough or some shit).

It's not something I want them to do again anytime soon though, cuz it won't be so great if that becomes the norm. It'll lose it's freshness.

I kinda wish though that they took the opportunity to do something about the annoying thing where caves are inhabited only by Geodudes and Zubats. They just replaced them with Roggenrola and Woobat.....

Odyssey January 8th, 2015 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Aslan (Post 8570254)
Also I have to ask - how did you guys feel about having to exclusively use Gen V pokemon during the main storyline? Did you not like it or were you happy to use a full team of new pokemon?

Although I preferred using Pokémon outside of one region, it was definitely a nice breath of fresh air to use Gen V Pokémon only. It not only has given me a challenge, but the small amount has made me take the time to try out tonnes of Pokémon. It also helps that I love many of the Gen V Pokémon, whether it be their design or battling potential.

Pendraflare January 8th, 2015 6:34 AM

How did you guys feel about having to exclusively use Gen V pokemon during the main storyline? Did you not like it or were you happy to use a full team of new pokemon?
This topic works for me, i'll go with it. Anyway, when I first played BW in 2011, I wasn't really sure what to make of it. But a while later, it soured on me thanks to the B2W2 haters making it out to be the best thing ever, as I didn't really get what was so amazing about it. After I came back to BW eventually, it grew on me and i've fully adapted to it, because it makes you come to like them more in time than you would as opposed to using stuff you've used in past games.

As a whole I still liked B2W2's New Unova Pokédex more, but this came to be something that I could considerably appreciate.

faf January 8th, 2015 9:13 AM

I've read the article but I'll post my thoughts about it later.
How did you guys feel about having to exclusively use Gen V pokemon during the main storyline? Did you not like it or were you happy to use a full team of new pokemon?
I loved it though at first I have moments where I felt like I wasn't playing a Pokemon game. Echoing, it did give me a chance to experiment with the new mons and thanks to that I've changed my favourite Pokemon as well as enjoyed the rest of the Unovians. I was neutral when they brought back the older Pokemon in BW2 since Unova has so many options to use but at the same time it helps with the dex.

Pendraflare January 16th, 2015 5:40 PM

Seems we have people that liked it, which is good, while others preferred B2W2's variety more. As I said, I like both but there are some that may not agree. Anyway, I think it's time for a new topic!

Which Unova Pokémon would you want to give a Mega Evolution to?

Probably not an original one, but a topic to get this back up nonetheless.

Emboar January 16th, 2015 6:22 PM

Which Unova Pokémon would you want to give a Mega Evolution to?

I'll just make a short-ish list. Number one would be the 3 final starter forms, because Gen V's starters are probably the worst in terms of competitive play. Also, I'd really like to see what GameFreak could add to them, especially Emboar. Number two would be Druddigon. You could really do a lot with Druddigon, as it's very forgotten about, like Medicham and Banette were before they got Megas. Number three would be Chandelure. Lots of Pokemon that have a really high Attack stat got Megs, such as Heracross, Salamence, and Pinsir. I think it would be nice to see more specially-based Megas, and Chandelure is the perfect fit, having base 145 special attack.

Hikamaru January 16th, 2015 6:40 PM

How did you guys feel about having to exclusively use Gen V Pokemon during the main storyline? Did you not like it or were you happy to use a full team of new Pokemon?

I think it was a pretty neat concept to say the least, because they were going for this "new beginning" approach and that's why they made Unova so isolated from other regions and having a Pokedex made up of only the native Pokemon that couldn't be found anywhere else. But as Pendraflare himself said, it helps you grow to love the resident Pokemon of the region.

Which Unova Pokémon would you want to give a Mega Evolution to?

I'm with User 101 here, the starters definitely need Megas given how bad these three all suck in terms of competitive play so a well-needed boost in the form of a Mega can really help patch up their mediocrity. The reason I know why they don't excel compared to other starters is because their stats are in the wrong places and a Mega can help boost the stat they really need, like maybe patch up Emboar's bad defenses or Serperior's lackluster offenses, and also make Samurott a bit faster.

faf January 16th, 2015 9:09 PM

Which Unova Pokémon would you want to give a Mega Evolution to?
I'm 90% sure the Unova starters will get megas so I won't say them. And I really want M. Scrafty because it got nerfed badly in Gen 6; expansive movepool and great abilities but only watered down by its stats.

Apart from that, Archeops and Carracosta could both use one, if Aero got a Mega then it would be cool if these fossils got 'em too. They are both underwhelming in competitive play (especially Archeops' ability) and both would love a boost. Cofagrigus is another one I enjoyed using in Gen 5 UU and it's unique with the ability. Higher stats would be lovely.

Aslan January 16th, 2015 10:07 PM

How did you guys feel about having to exclusively use Gen V pokemon during the main storyline? Did you not like it or were you happy to use a full team of new pokemon?

Well it actually didn't seem that different cave-wise as mentioned previously. It was still the same idea - just with other pokemon. Woobat and Roggenrola seemed to replace the Zubats and Geodudes that had haunted the places previously. And of course the traditional starter types, HM slave and first route pokemon idea remained the same. But otherwise, the pokemon all seemed different to any ones that had been invented previously.

I really liked the surprise of it all though. Everyone was encouraged to try the new pokemon and their fun and weird designs. There were more inanimate objects, more colours and a lot of new ideas when it came to the concepts used. This was one of the things that I enjoyed most about Gen V, how different it was compared to any other mainseries game.

So yes, I enjoyed it definitely! I wouldn't mind the same idea being used in future gens either.

Which Unova Pokémon would you want to give a Mega Evolution to?

The starters, for one. If you were to give megas to anything else, you'd be neglecting the most important pokemon of the game apart from legendaries.

I'm really with the Archeops suggestion too. It'd stop people calling it a 'less better aerodactyl' as it's quite a great pokemon. A mega would help it go even or better with its generation counterpart.

And if they were to create mega legendaries, what about giving the four swords megas? I feel like that could work though it might be too many evolutions to design.

Hiatus January 16th, 2015 11:07 PM

Username: Peitharchia.
Partner Pokémon: Volcarona.
Reason for joining: Although I'm not much of a big generation five fan, generally, I still admire all the new Pokémon and mechanics it had introduced to us, and would love to join in on the conversation!

What City/Town was your absolute favorite in Unova?
There is a couple!

One of them would likely have to be Castelia City (I hope I've spelled it correctly). It's gargantuan--much, much bigger than any other cities they have had in the past. Alongside, it also has a lot of places here and there for us to explore, even though most are merely buildings.

As far as its theme goes, I loved it; if you ask me, it was rather bright and vibrant.

Odyssey January 17th, 2015 12:00 AM

Which Unova Pokémon would you want to give a Mega Evolution to? Mienshao, by a long shot. Since I've explained about why it should get a Mega Evolution, I'm just gonna be lazy and quote a post from another thread.

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Originally Posted by Odyssey (Post 8510530)
This is a very tricky question. Game Freak doesn't just pick a Pokémon at random and slap a new Mega Evolution onto it. According to an review with Ken Sugimori, he said that the Pokémon with Mega Evolutions are either needing of a balance in battling or that they're fan favourites.

Mega Mienshao: Okay, this one might not happen since Mienshao is still new, but I will mention one thing. According to a magazine in Japan, there was a popularity poll about Unova Pokémon. One of the Pokémon, Audino, is Number 23 of said poll. Mienshao is Number 26. If Audino has gotten a Mega thanks to its average stats and popularity, then I see no reason to not give Mienshao a Mega. Granted, its stats are fine the way it is, but I could definitely see some kind of boost to them one day.

I might also add another thing about its popularity. Last year, Pokémon.com held a mini tournament called the Fighting Type Face Off. Not only Mienshao made it into the Top 4, but the remaining 3 were either a Legendary or a Mega Pokémon.

Nah January 17th, 2015 8:41 AM

Which Unova Pokémon would you want to give a Mega Evolution to?
I'd like Mega Evolutions for Volcarona, Hydreigon, and Zekrom. Volcarona and Hydreigon are solid, cool Pokemon that are often ignored in favor of their brethren (Heatran, Mega Zard, Talonflame; Garchomp, [email protected], Salamence, etc) and could use a boost. Hydreigon in particular could be a cool Dragon/Steel type since its design was originally to be a cyborg dragon, and it'd be nice to finally have another Dragon/Steel type.

Mega Zekrom because Zekrom

Pendraflare January 17th, 2015 2:07 PM

Seems we got some nice answers here, if I say. I'll give one that hasn't been mentioned yet: Eelektross. Although Eelektross having Levitate is one thing that makes it unique, its stats are decent all-around but never really struck me as being overly cool. Since it has pretty good Attack and Special Attack with a handful of moves to use it with, they could likely do something like they did with Mega Camerupt and lower its Speed for more attacking capabilities and Sheer Force, which is probably what I would do.

Aside from that, I too would like to see Mega Druddigon, Haxorus and Hydreigon, they're all powerful on their own but could certainly use some buffs what with the Fairy-type and other things that have come about in the newer generations. And Mega Scolipede, because you know me.

Hiatus January 18th, 2015 12:40 AM

Which Unova Pokémon would you want to give a Mega Evolution to?
There are many Unovian Pokémon out there I would consider giving mega-evolution to, haha.

First on my list is Volcarona. This one is already quite good on its own, as it could wreak some major havoc after it's done setting up with Quiver Dance and whatnot, but even so, it also has some major disadvantage (being four-times weak against moves such as Stealth Rock), causing it to be sort of tough to utilize. Had it gained a mega-form with possibly some defensive boosts, I believe that could change.

Along with above, another Pokémon would be Jellicent. It was very popular back when generation five of games were first introduced, but sadly, its popularity seemed to have dwindled a ton over the years. With access to a mega-evolution form, hopefully, this will change, as we'd find ourselves utilizing it more due to its improved stats, better range of moves, new ability, etc.

faf January 18th, 2015 11:26 AM

@Odyssey- Could you possibly link that article on popular Unova Pokemon? It sounds interesting~
@M. Eelektross- Y'know, I'd love to see it! Eelektross is one of my favourite Unovian Pokemon (the top 10 favourite Unova keeps changing expect for my top 2 :P) and it's a Pokemon who also can use a boost.
And I'd love to see Mega Jellicent! But yeah, that Knock Off boost.
Druddigon could use one too, I kind of wish it'd be a regular evolution of Dragon/Rock though.
M. Hydreigon and Mienshao though. <3

Odyssey January 18th, 2015 5:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zinnia (Post 8585044)
@Odyssey- Could you possibly link that article on popular Unova Pokemon? It sounds interesting~

Here's the article! It's pretty interesting to see how Japan feels about Unova Pokémon. :3

Nah January 18th, 2015 6:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Odyssey (Post 8585457)
Here's the article! It's pretty interesting to see how Japan feels about Unova Pokémon. :3

1. Chandelure
2. Whimsicott
3. Reshiram
4. Reuniclus
5. Hydreigon
6. Serperior
7. Snivy
8. and 9. Oshawott and Joltik (tie)
10. Lilligant
11. Zekrom
12. Galvantula
13. Pansage
14. Scollipede
15. Volcarona
16. Emolga
17. and 18. Zoroark and Litwick (tie)
19. and 20. Victini and Minccino (tie)
21. and 22. Haxorus and Bisharp (tie)
23. Tympole
24. Samurott
25. Audino
26. Zoroa
27. Stunfisk
28. Mienshao
29. Cofagrigus
30. Vanilluxe

what is this blasphemy

faf January 18th, 2015 6:51 PM

>Sees the article.
>Scrafty isn't there.
>Is now sad.

I'm quite surprised Stunfisk, Pansage, Tympole and Vanilluxe on there. Also, they misspelled Zorua in the article. :P But, thanks for linking~ :)

@Zekrom- Don't worry, I prefer Zekrom over Reshiram.

Aslan January 18th, 2015 7:59 PM

I'm a Zekrom > Reshiram person. Let's start a club shall we?

It's pretty interesting seeing how Japanese fans feel about Unova. If you were to ask fans from the UK or America for example, they'd probably put Vanilluxe on the '30 most hated' list alongside whatever else they find uncreative or dumb.

Also how is Tympole more popular than Samurott? I thought Samurott was insanely popular since it was a starter and all but apparently not. They completely excluded the Tepig line as well, haha.

I'm all for some of the choices though. Lillipup, Scolipede, Whimsicott, Hydreigon, Audino and Zekrom just to name a few. Stunfisk's a cutie too. <3

Odyssey January 19th, 2015 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Zinnia (Post 8585503)
>Sees the article.
>Scrafty isn't there.
>Is now sad.

I'm quite surprised Stunfisk, Pansage, Tympole and Vanilluxe on there. Also, they misspelled Zorua in the article. :P But, thanks for linking~ :)

@Zekrom- Don't worry, I prefer Zekrom over Reshiram.

Surprised to see that Scrafty isn't on the list either. I could definitely see it in some Top 50, though.

This may be a little farfetched, but I have a theory. I believe the reason why Stunfisk, Pansage, Tympole and Vanilluxe are on there is because of a joke on Pixiv. I frequently go on that website and it's not hard to find art without these four, especially Tympole. Japan has a strange taste in humour, I tell ya. :P

Hiatus January 19th, 2015 12:36 AM

I personally would have put Zekrom above Reshiram, primarily because, in my opinion, its design tends to be more... global, so to speak; like latter, former doesn't look too feminine. Reshiram does sort of seem like that mainly due to its body color, which is white, orange, and a mixture of red and pink. Plus, it's got some fur surrounded, which are rather on the elegant side.

As for Scrafty not being on their list, I'm kind of surprised about this as well, considering how popular it seemed to have been when generation five of games were first introduced and whatnot, as I had stated in one of my earlier posts. I've seen it being used on a lot of teams while battling online.

It's popularity have indeed dwindled over the years, however, which is a little disappointing to see,

Nakala Pri January 19th, 2015 1:58 AM

How come no one likes Reshiram? It's so god-like and awesome! It's the only reason I chose Pokemon Black. And isn't it the only Dragon/Fire Pokemon out there? (Except Mega Charizard X) It's a rare, odd typing but it sorta works. Zekrom's design isn't as radiant or awe-inducing. But it had got a sort of wicked quality. I still like it but it's still Reshiram ftw! :P

I started a new file on Pokemon Black 2. Is it possible to get a Teddiursa? And is it worth using a Watchog? Thanks!

Polar Spectrum January 19th, 2015 2:17 AM

Sorry I haven't been active enough in here ;-;

But I have to defend Reshiram's honor. Despite back in gen 5 seeing about 90% demands for Zekrom on the GTS, and significantly less for Reshiram, the article says Reshiram ranks higher in Japan's favorites? That's surprising. However I have to say personally I find Reshiram a fair bit cooler. Both typings are unique, but Reshiram's design just looks majestic. It has flowing feather-like wings, and a body that could be made of clouds - and it's literally the Blue Eyes White Dragon of pokemon. (Seriously, anyone else catch that? Zekrom is red eyes black dragon too.) Zekrom looks very intimidating, is is possibly more competitively viable; but Reshiram just looks cooler. Be it as it may, that Zekrom looks b.a.

Nakala Pri January 19th, 2015 6:40 AM

Reshy ftw! >BD

Anyway, on my Pokemon Black 2 file, I keep finding myself piling up Normal types. I realize that Super Fang and Hypnotize are heaps useful, but there is something off-putting about Watchog. Maybe because anyone who uses it never comes back? :O *puts on detective hat*

I'm tempted to use a Stoutland, but I've already got one on my Omega file so I'm totally conflicted. I'd LOVE to use Cobalion but you have to wait until you're like, level fifty to get it. Maybe I should use a Krookodile, like the good old days! :D


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