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Pendraflare January 7th, 2015 4:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoenn (Post 8568148)
I feel like they've rushed, or rather pumped out too many Mario games in the past couple of years. It will be good to see them focusing on other titles and franchises and I'm interested to see what approach they take for this year.

Basically this.

Nintendo released quite a few non-Mario titles that turned out to be successful, like Kirby and Zelda related ones, so if they try for more of that, then Mario might turn out to get something more creative or different after a while off from it.

Fossy January 7th, 2015 7:31 AM

Being new to the Nintendo scene, I haven't grown tired of the mario games - purchasing three games for my 3ds so far. But I can see it as a good thing for Nintendo, instead of focusing on such a long running title as Mario, they can turn to new IPS, or other games that have laid dormant for so long. I think it's a breath of fresh air in the gaming community/industry whenever developers/publishers focus on something new for a change. Especially when you have sequels upon sequels being churned out for so many games - Xbox/Sony, I'm looking at you!

Hi! January 7th, 2015 7:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Fossy (Post 8569503)
I think it's a breath of fresh air in the gaming community/industry whenever developers/publishers focus on something new for a change. Especially when you have sequels upon sequels being churned out for so many games - Xbox/Sony, I'm looking at you!

Tell that to GameFreak. They're little more than a Pokemon factory.

It seems like the Mario name is a little saturated, since they like to put him and his friends on anything they can to generate appeal. Without Mario, 'Mario Tennis' would be a pretty normal Nintendo tennis game. It's very easy to put Mario and co. on that to generate appeal for the games, and that's what they do, which leads to people getting bored of seeing Mario everywhere.

Yukari January 7th, 2015 7:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hi! (Post 8569511)
Tell that to GameFreak. They're little more than a Pokemon factory.

That's mainly because Pokemon is the only reason that they are what they are today. Really nothing else they made took off. Everybody's heard of Pokemon, but almost nobody's heard of Pulseman.

Z25 January 7th, 2015 7:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TRIFORCE89 (Post 8568914)
Shiggy was talking about the Wii U, no? So, why consider the portable output?


EDIT: Oh, oops. I had included 3D Land on that list XD That shouldn't have been there. *removes* Ignore me. No portables

lol shiggy, i like that nickname. And i hadn't even noticed the 3d land on there XD. It never occured to me lol. Ajd then that list is good, not to cluttered,but it's still nice to focus more on other games.

Hi! January 7th, 2015 8:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Orpheus (Post 8569521)
That's mainly because Pokemon is the only reason that they are what they are today. Really nothing else they made took off. Everybody's heard of Pokemon, but almost nobody's heard of Pulseman.

That's true, but with the success they've seen with Pokemon and the amount of money they're bringing in, they could stand to branch out with more things, even if it means expanding the team. Of course, I guess it depends on whether Nintendo are content to let them just continue to pump out Pokemon games, but their last release was Harmoknight I believe, which was a pretty small eShop release. I think a company with the recognition and success of GameFreak could do a lot more with what they have.

It's like Treyarch/Infinity Ward with Call of Duty. They just pump these games out continuously because that's what Activision want and they don't really have anything else that would be a success.

Yukari January 7th, 2015 8:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Hi! (Post 8569541)
That's true, but with the success they've seen with Pokemon and the amount of money they're bringing in, they could stand to branch out with more things, even if it means expanding the team. Of course, I guess it depends on whether Nintendo are content to let them just continue to pump out Pokemon games, but their last release was Harmoknight I believe, which was a pretty small eShop release. I think a company with the recognition and success of GameFreak could do a lot more with what they have.

It's like Treyarch/Infinity Ward with Call of Duty. They just pump these games out continuously because that's what Activision want and they don't really have anything else that would be a success.

That is also true. But making a Video Game is really a gamble. You could make money, or you could lose money. And with the massive following Pokemon has (Hell, this is a Pokemon forum, as much as I forget that.) and the large demand for Pokemon games ( Particularly OR/AS.) making a Pokemon game is the best, and most successful. course of action. Now, I'm not necessarily trying to say "Pokemon should be the only game that GameFreak makes." but that is perfectly understandable. And we did get remakes of Ruby and Sapphire. And that does show that GameFreak is listening to their fans.

Hi! January 7th, 2015 8:26 AM

Yeah, I agree with you. I'm a big Pokemon fan myself, and I welcome more Pokemon games. I was just responding to the post addressing Sony/Microsoft for putting out too many sequels, which Nintendo/GameFreak do themselves.

It's perfectly understandable, I mean Pokemon is so huge and I have no doubt it could keep GameFreak alive and well for years to come, not to mention they're likely very passionate about the franchise since it is nearing the 20th anniversary and it's come so far, and they've built something really great with it. It's just so big that I think there is potential for GameFreak to funnel some of that success into something fresh, perhaps with a respectable budget behind it.

Z25 January 8th, 2015 5:01 AM

And a smaller mario title has been announced:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0vIXnXoi6U


Looks neat, may have to pick it up.

Sir Codin January 8th, 2015 5:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Orpheus (Post 8569558)
That is also true. But making a Video Game is really a gamble. You could make money, or you could lose money. And with the massive following Pokemon has (Hell, this is a Pokemon forum, as much as I forget that.) and the large demand for Pokemon games ( Particularly OR/AS.) making a Pokemon game is the best, and most successful. course of action. Now, I'm not necessarily trying to say "Pokemon should be the only game that GameFreak makes." but that is perfectly understandable. And we did get remakes of Ruby and Sapphire. And that does show that GameFreak is listening to their fans.

Except, how did Pokemon get so popular in the first place?

Answer: Gamefreak took a gamble.

Yukari January 8th, 2015 6:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CarcharOdin (Post 8571102)
Except, how did Pokemon get so popular in the first place?

Answer: Gamefreak took a gamble.

Yes, but at that point Gamefreak needed to take a gamble because they weren't making enough money given the popularity of their games. It's really just sheer luck that Pokemon became popular.

Sir Codin January 8th, 2015 6:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Orpheus (Post 8571136)
Yes, but at that point Gamefreak needed to take a gamble because they weren't making enough money given the popularity of their games. It's really just sheer luck that Pokemon became popular.

Still, my point is they wouldn't have made it where they are today if they didn't take the risk.

And considering how much money they've made off of Pokemon over the years, I think they can afford to make a few gambles here and there.

Yukari January 8th, 2015 6:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CarcharOdin (Post 8571142)
Still, my point is they wouldn't have made it where they are today if they didn't take the risk.

And considering how much money they've made off of Pokemon over the years, I think they can afford to make a few gambles here and there.

They definitely could, but Pokemon manages to both keep the fans happy, and makes money. It's really a win-win situation.

I do agree, however. Gamefreak could afford to make a game that isn't Pokemon with minimal losses.

Z25 January 8th, 2015 10:53 AM

Gamefreak definitely should take more gambles, nintendo can afford a ton of resources to make a brand cult classic for people of all ages from gamefreak. I would like to see them do something likw shovel knight in terms of a simple but good story and gameplay elements.

Dying Light January 8th, 2015 3:41 PM

Personally, I see this as a bit of fresh air. Nintendo wondered why Wii U wasn't selling as good as they wanted aside from redundant console design. For a company such as Nintendo, they have so much potential in other series than a constant Mario theme. While I appreciate that Mario was Nintendo's claim to fame, repetition is annoying.

Yukari January 8th, 2015 6:35 PM

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Originally Posted by zoroarkrules25 (Post 8571443)
Gamefreak definitely should take more gambles, nintendo can afford a ton of resources to make a brand cult classic for people of all ages from gamefreak. I would like to see them do something like shovel knight in terms of a simple but good story and gameplay elements.

I would like to point out here that Nintendo doesn't own gamefreak. You seem to be under the impression that they do.

Z25 January 9th, 2015 3:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Orpheus (Post 8572041)
I would like to point out here that Nintendo doesn't own gamefreak. You seem to be under the impression that they do.

I know they don't but they finance them anyway and practically own them, hence why they usually only make pokemon and only on nintendo consoles.

TRIFORCE89 January 9th, 2015 3:16 PM

Nintendo owns The Pokémon Company though. And Creatures Inc.

Game Freak is a second-party software development partner.

Hero of Twilight January 10th, 2015 7:34 AM

i think it's a good thing for Nintendo to branch out from mario to try other series, especially series they haven't touched for a while. In fact, i heard from a Gamexplain video that not only is Nintendo bringing back star fox from the dustbin of forgotten IPs, but that Miyamoto dropped a few hints that they might be working on a new F-Zero game as well, so we might get a chance to show people our moves

Z25 January 10th, 2015 8:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackMagicMaster (Post 8574241)
i think it's a good thing for Nintendo to branch out from mario to try other series, especially series they haven't touched for a while. In fact, i heard from a Gamexplain video that not only is Nintendo bringing back star fox from the dustbin of forgotten IPs, but that Miyamoto dropped a few hints that they might be working on a new F-Zero game as well, so we might get a chance to show people our moves

Yup, he said that in an interview in smosh games. It was a cool video, him and Bill trinten( marketing head and miyamoto's translators) were both on it. They played mario kart 8 with them as well. And at the end miyamoto gave each of them a brand new 3ds and signed it! Here is the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=untLD6z6aqI


I don't know how to imbedd them, sorry. Also a while back sakurai hinted F zero could be getting a new game when he revealed Captain Falcon.

Yukari January 10th, 2015 8:13 AM

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Originally Posted by zoroarkrules25 (Post 8574274)
Yup, he said that in an interview in smosh games. It was a cool video, him and Bill trinten( marketing head and miyamoto's translators) were both on it. They played mario kart 8 with them as well. And at the end miyamoto gave each of them a brand new 3ds and signed it! Here is the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=untLD6z6aqI


I don't know how to imbedd them, sorry. Also a while back sakurai hinted F zero could be getting a new game when he revealed Captain Falcon.

For anybody who wants an embedded video. Here you go.


Z25 January 10th, 2015 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Orpheus (Post 8574279)
For anybody who wants an embedded video. Here you go.


Thanksm it's different here then on other forums o visit.

Masterge77 January 10th, 2015 8:52 PM

Well, I think this is good news and bad news for Mario fans, since it will give Nintendo more time to come up with something big. Considering the fact that many of the Mario games for the past 4-5 years or so have simply been rehashes, it's obvious they need a break, especially given how big SSB4 was last year.

On the upside, at least a new Zelda is coming out along with the 3DS remake of Majora's Mask, as well as a new Star Fox game. As for the Pokemon franchise, other than the recent revealing of Hoopa, nothing has been heard on what the next game will be, whether we will get the third Kalos game or if it will just be smaller spin-off games this year, since 2016 IS going to be the 20th anniversary of the franchise, so it's possible that something big is planned for then.

Sad to say, not all news is good news, as Nintendo recently pulled out of the Brazilian market due to high import taxes. Sad day for Brazilian gamers indeed.

Vinny Vidi Vici January 10th, 2015 9:35 PM

Just personally I think the Wii U needs a super impressive 3D Mario game. 3D World was a bit of a letdown in my books. Not to say it wasn't a good game, but to me it basically felt like 3D Land but in HD. The game just feels like a series of obstacle courses given the lack of a overworld/hubworld (well a good one at least) and the timer and flagpole goals as opposed to the mission style goals of previous 3D Mario games.

To me Mario games work best when it feels like what you're watching is a window to another world. So what I look for is a cohesive world that makes sense. To me that's the foundation to which Mario was based on. In the original game Super Mario Bros, the first cutscene in the game is between 1-1 and 1-2. 1-1 is a standard on the ground level and 1-2 is an underground level, so between the two levels there is a cutscene showing Mario enter a pipe to go underground, which obviously make sense as opposed to him just magically starting the next level underground. So with that in mind I just found it disappointing that in Mario 3D World you have a silly 3D overworld which despite being 3D is essentially linear and you can go from a mountain to a desert to a snow level all in a couple of levels from each other. Despite world being in the title, it didn't feel like a world at all, just a series of obstacle courses. They were fun and wonderfully looking obstacle courses, but the game failed to capture my imagination at least.

So I'm hoping for a real home run of a 3D Mario coming up for the Wii U, something more in line with Sunshine and the Galaxy series that makes use of the Wii U's impressive tech to where the gameworlds can be vast and intricate and just fun to hang out in and interact with. There's a lot of unexplored territory with the Wii U tech that they can do with the Mario series, and as much as I'd like to see that next great Mario game sooner rather than latter, hopefully this news means that they're taking extra care in ensuring the next installment will be a top of the line game. Sorry for the long post but I'm a big time Mario guy (I just started replaying Galaxy again, great game) so I'm pretty opinionated when it comes to the pudgy plumber.

Starry Windy January 11th, 2015 1:41 AM

Considering that they will release the different kind of Mario game (Mario Maker, for instance), I personally think they might be able to focus more on another franchise or even the new IP once for a while, so I think it's mostly a good thing.


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