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Dusk June 24th, 2015 12:22 AM

Sorry to detract from the current topic. Just thought I'd inform y'all that Nintendo has officially confirmed that Fire Emblem Fates will be sold as two products in North America. As you may know, the two versions are called “Conquest” and “Birthright” in the west. There are also plans to distribute a third story as DLC. Nintendo also revealed that same-sex marriage will be a possible thing for the Avatar character and one character in each version of the game.

More details in this article:
http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-emblem-fates-has-same-sex-marriages-2-versions-officially-confirmed-for-the-west/

Also, be careful of plot spoilers for these games on the internet, as they've just been released in Japan.

saifors June 24th, 2015 1:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arc (Post 8812546)
If children is enough to turn you off. I think it's best for you to step back and just look away from Fire Emblem. Because children should be the least of your worries. But at the very least, it seems like the focal of the plot is not these kids, as the Gaiden chapters are supposedly unlocked right away when the a S-rank is achieved.


Now to elaborate why children should be the least of your worries. Because I'm sure this is more than enough to tell me, that this is not going to bode well for you.

And now I'm 100% surely NEVER going to touch this game with a 10Km long pole.
The Fire Emblem I loved to play and got incredible satisfaction off of no longer exists.
I'd say gg but there's nothing g(ood) about this.
Maybe they'll one day bring this franchise back to their roots , but for now my last hope is Shouzou Kaga's new game gets shown off soon and is everything me and other veterans want.

Dragon June 24th, 2015 1:32 AM

I don't really see the big deal about time travelling kids? If there are characters, including kids that you don't like, then... you don't have to use them? I've been a fan of Fire Emblem since the 90s, and I don't think that a Fire Emblem game should be judged by that alone.

In fact, I honestly don't care about misc features; what I always look for is a decent challenge, and an memorable playable experience, which I hope Fire Emblem Fates will provide in their maps. At the same time, I think they're aiming to introduce more people to the series, which is just as important, imo~

Pinkie-Dawn June 24th, 2015 11:24 AM

The game is out in Japan already? I thought it was going to come out next month?


Also, saifors, you're really overeacting about this. We don't want this fanbase to end up like Metroid, where we purposefully isolate potential newcomers to the series with sheer elitism.

Arc June 24th, 2015 11:33 AM

JEIGEN HAS RETURNED.

Gunter growth rates.

HP: 15
STR: 5
MAG: 0
SKL: 5
SPD: 0
LUK: 15
DEF: 5
RES: 5

Nah June 24th, 2015 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8814063)
The game is out in Japan already? I thought it was going to come out next month?

No, it comes out tomorrow in Japan, but I heard that someone apparently got a copy early (like on Monday or so) and has posted some stuff already.

Arc June 24th, 2015 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nah (Post 8814081)
No, it comes out tomorrow in Japan, but I heard that someone apparently got a copy early (like on Monday or so) and has posted some stuff already.

They've done more than post stuff early lol. They pretty much dumped the whole game. Most of the voice clips and a fair amount of the soundtrack has been released. All the portraits in the game, including the children, have been compiled. The text has been dumped, not in readable form, but it's there. They also got all the chapter summaries for the 3rd route.

Nah June 24th, 2015 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arc (Post 8814147)
They've done more than post stuff early lol. They pretty much dumped the whole game. Most of the voice clips and a fair amount of the soundtrack has been released. All the portraits in the game, including the children, have been compiled. The text has been dumped, not in readable form, but it's there. They also got all the chapter summaries for the 3rd route.

Whoa, it was that much stuff? I didn't know how much info they dumped, but I didn't think it'd be as much as that.

Pinkie-Dawn June 26th, 2015 6:20 AM

So, are we going to avoid Fates spoilers until the game is out next year in the U.S. and Europe?

Dusk June 26th, 2015 9:15 AM

I wouldn't mind discussing gameplay for Fates, but I'd rather stay away from plot-related spoilers. The rest of you can talk about whatever, just please use spoiler tags when talking about plot in Fates.

Arc June 26th, 2015 3:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8816818)
So, are we going to avoid Fates spoilers until the game is out next year in the U.S. and Europe?

Well, I've already dived into the pool of spoilers, so haha.

But like Lisia said. We should probably discuss gameplay more so than the plot. The stories in Fates seem to be step-up in comparison to other FEs (not like that's hard do), so I think most people would rather get kept in the dark about that.

Now speaking of gameplay. Growth Rates! Averages have been lowered all around and resemble PoR's averages, which is cool. With limited level ups (unless you use Eternal Seals), being RNG screwed is more likely now than it was in Awakening. The stat that most characters seem to be getting screwed over is HP from all the streams and screenshots I saw. Regardless though, we still get some beautiful Growth Rates like this.

Effie (Knight/Nohr)
HP: 35
STR: 60
MAG: 0
SKL: 35
SPD: 50
LCK: 50
DEF: 35
RES: 30

This is discounting class Growth Rate bonuses. But, this girl is supposed to be a Knight? With a SPD growth like that, she could easily be a Myrmidon/Samurai. But, as nice as Effie's is, Elise is probably Nohr's prided champion.

Elise (Rod Knight/Nohr)
HP: 30
STR: 5
MAG: 65
SKL: 25
SPD: 55
LCK: 70
DEF: 15
RES: 40

Again, discounting class bonuses. Yeah, Elise probably isn't going to want to take a hit. But doesn't matter, she's basically a ridiculous Clarine.

Nah June 27th, 2015 11:36 AM

Someone made a little thing where you can play around with the avatar maker (and download what you made) if anyone's interested:

http://kamuicustomizer.appspot.com/
http://luminescentblade.github.io/KamuiCustomizer/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arc (Post 8814077)

Gunter growth rates.

HP: 15
STR: 5
MAG: 0
SKL: 5
SPD: 0
LUK: 15
DEF: 5
RES: 5

Yo....those are some awful growth rates

Arc June 27th, 2015 12:26 PM

Stat caps have been found out! Verdict? MUCH, MUCH lower than Awakening's. Most classes HP stat hover around 50 - 60. Mean average for total stat caps for a class are like around the 30 - 35 area. So, they're comparable to Radiant Dawn's stat caps. Just giving them a look in a pure numbers game, Berserker is probably one of the best classes in the game. They have a monstrous max of 70 HP, the highest ATK standing at 40, and the third best SPD in the game with 33.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nah (Post 8819139)
Yo....those are some awful growth rates

What are you talking about? They're fantastic growth rates. He's so strong that he doesn't even need to level up.

no but seriously Jeigen lol

Pinkie-Dawn June 30th, 2015 2:09 PM

I'm hearing that the fans are already making their own translation to this game, and they're planning to finish it before next year's worldwide release.

Arc June 30th, 2015 2:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8823776)
I'm hearing that the fans are already making their own translation to this game, and they're planning to finish it before next year's worldwide release.

Before anyone goes "what? why?", Fire Emblem Fates is almost certainly getting censored when it's coming over. So, fans are hoping that they can get this out so people can experience the option of playing it with it's original intent and meanings.

Now, what is getting censored? Well, we can probably assume that some of the swimsuit outfits are either getting outright removed or edited a la Bravely Default and the Bravo Bikini. Amie dialogue is getting incredibly butchered for the English dub.

NSFW. CAN BE TAKEN IN THE WRONG WAY.
Spoiler:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pieri
Your throbbing place, it looks like the flesh is tearing...

Nn... my body's acting strange... somehow... it's getting hot...


^ That's not going to roll with NoA and NoE. Plus, do you really want Matthew Mercer or Laura Bailey saying stuff like that? Chrom's confession scene was hilariously embarrassing, this is 10x worse.

Some supports are also going to be drastically changed. Spoilers ahead regarding some supports that might get changed.

Spoiler:
Camilla and Kamui is essentially the former trying to get the latter to bathe with her. Its intent is sweet and you get to know how strong Camilla's feelings are for Kamui, but that situation isn't something that gets the nod of approval from everyone.

Éponine and Soleil support is both of them trying to prove which one of their fetishes is superior. Éponine is an avid fan of men-on-men action (she's a fujoshi), while Soleil fancies women-on-women. Yes, there are TWO options for gay marriage in this game, so the contents of this support isn't taboo or anything of the sort. But this support is still something that I don't think is going to make it over intact. Plus, Éponine mentions that she has a stash of books (porno magazines) in this support.

Dusk June 30th, 2015 4:27 PM

I wonder what the game will be rated anyway? I imagine they might try to keep it T to maximize sales but aside from the stuff that may get censored what are they gonna do about how dark and graphic (on the violence end) some parts of the game apparently get? I remember the Ace Attorney game on 3DS was rated M simply because of cutscenes that contained an excess of blood.

NoE may handle some of the outfits in Fates differently because if I recall correctly.... In Awakening during the Summer Scramble DLC, European versions did not censor the cg with Tharja's... bikini butt.. whereas NA version of the game did with the random curtain. x'D

Spoilers regarding some for romantic supports between Kamui and central characters:
Spoiler:
I am also curious how they will handle romantic supports between Kamui and the uh... sibling-like characters. No one in Japan bats an eye because the characters are not related by blood.
Spoiler:
This includes the Hoshido side too, apparently...
But I imagine just the principle of the matter would bother many westerners. (At the same time I've seen a lot of fans over here thirsting for Marx, Leon, and Camilla in particular good gods... Whatever floats your boat I guess. 'Tis only a video game at the end of the day.)

VillageofDragons July 7th, 2015 4:07 AM

Username: VillageofDragons
What's your preferred class?: (eg lord, fighter, mage, etc) Dark Knight
Who is your favourite character? Henry

Loriania July 8th, 2015 4:11 PM

Awakening- What is the best way to recruit Cynthia? She keeps attacking my units and losing.

Pinkie-Dawn July 8th, 2015 4:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loriania (Post 8837448)
Awakening- What is the best way to recruit Cynthia? She keeps attacking my units and losing.

Use either Chrom or Sumia and stay one space away from Cynthia's attack zone, so you'll be able to talk to her when she's within Chrom Sumia's attack zone the next turn.

VillageofDragons July 8th, 2015 6:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8837476)
Use either Chrom or Sumia and stay one space away from Cynthia's attack zone, so you'll be able to talk to her when she's within Chrom Sumia's attack zone the next turn.


This, as well as make sure you're talking to her with the right units. If you make a mistake and move the wrong units near her then you'll have to start again or fix it somehow.

Lapis July 14th, 2015 4:49 PM

Oh my goodness, Dragon! You didn't tell me this club existed. D:

Username: Lapis
What's your preferred class?: Dark Mage
Who is your favourite character? Cherche. <3

Cerberus87 July 15th, 2015 12:40 AM

To anyone interested: http://www.goodsmile.info/en/product/5112/Cordelia.html

Pinkie-Dawn July 15th, 2015 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cerberus87 (Post 8847081)

I've noticed that Cordelia's not wearing her chest armor in this figure. Did they forgot to include that, or was that intentional?

Ste182 July 15th, 2015 2:45 PM

Fire Emblem: Awakening is my first FE game. I love it! :) I've heard that it's great for newcomers, but hardcore fans generally don't care much for it.

RedJ July 15th, 2015 2:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8847561)
I've noticed that Cordelia's not wearing her chest armor in this figure. Did they forgot to include that, or was that intentional?

It was intentional. The armor is included, but it's awkwardly hanging on the wing thing on the statue and can't be attached.


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