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Community Colleges get approved for bachelor's degree programs
Read more about it here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article7780146.html
Basically though, to summarize it, community colleges(i.e. not your typical 4 year 20k for a year) in california have approved a 4 year curriculum to attain a bachelor degree in 15 different fields. California isn't a pioneer in this, being something like the 22nd state to actually do something like this, but its nice to see that it is a trend catching on. Not only are they(in this case) degrees not offered by the UCs or CSUs. I personally think its great because it is going to make education that is NEEDED for getting jobs more widely available to the public--and frankly, that's just what we need. The system definitely needs to be expanded and picked up by more states, but this is a nice step in the right direction. |
My thoughts on this really stem from the fact that our society is "over educated". That's really a horrible word for it because I don't think anyone can be too knowledgable but I do we seem to have reached a new standard in what education is required to get somewhere, and have what appears to be a saturation for the level of people there.
What does a Bachelor degree really get you? Honestly, as someone who went to university and paid a lot well.. community colleges can "have it". I'm neither happy nor annoyed that a community college can hand out a bachelor degree because it's essentially typical for someone to have one now haha. You really need to go beyond a bachelor's degree to get anywhere if your degree is in (most) science, or arts. What I am curious about is if these people with a bachelor degree from a community college can translate that degree to a Masters at a university? I will probably have to look more into it... |
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I suppose it's nice that community colleges may one day soon be offering Bachelor's degrees to people, but the problem is that the value of a Bachelor's is depreciating like Saki said. 40 years ago a Bachelor's was all you needed to get a career started; employers were happy that you had a 4 year degree. Nowadays they won't even look at you if you don't at least have a Bachelor's, and the guarantee of getting hired is minimal. I think that the majority want you to have a Master's or least a BS/BA and be super amazing these days. At least that's how it seems to me.
The other problem is that yes, community colleges are cheaper than 4 year universities, but who says that they won't jack up the price once the Bachelor's thing gets implemented? Not to mention that you may not be getting a quality education. The US education system is not as good as it used to be. I have a BS myself, but I don't really feel as prepared for a career as I should be. It's probably partly my fault really, but only partly. |
Community college's offering bachelor's degree's?
Bad idea. Cheapens the degree even more than it already is, not to mention it would make 4-year universities seem like a waste of money. |
Wait I thought Obama only mentioned free tuition for community colleges if your grades were good and do community service or something. I never heard of giving out bachelor's.
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As for other people who are saying it "cheapens" the degree, how do you figure? The curriculum still has to meet the standards set by educational boards just like a 4 year university would. And while I do agree with the fact that it is becoming more and more required, I think that's the perfect reason for it to be available at the community college level. |
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And not everyone who is smart enough to graduate from your typical 4 year university can afford to attend a 4 year university at its tuition rates, because they're in that limbo zone where their parents are too wealthy for them to receive assistance, yet their parents or themselves are too poor to be able to afford to take out $50,000+ in loans, and they miss out on scholarships because writing isn't a strong suit of theirs, yet they are brilliant at mathematics or engineering. Besides, 4 year university tuitions pay for more than just the degree you're getting: they pay for all the services offered by the schools plus the research projects the university runs. Bonus stuff that's not essential for your major. |
In all honesty, this is probably the truest thing about college ever written:
http://www.blurofinsanity.com/collegewaste.html It really depends on the kind of degree you are getting. If you're getting a B.S., congrats, it wasn't actually a waste of money. Otherwise, forget it. |
I think this circumvents the real problem, which appears to be affordability of current university institutions in the US. Whether this cheapens a bachelor's degree is yet to be seen. People will assess the worth of your degree based on where you achieved it (i.e. the reputation of your university), and certainly the same will be said for these degrees. It might take time for employers to value a bachelor's degree obtained from a community college vs. a university.
That being said, I don't quite understand the difference between community college and university in the USA as the system varies completely to Australia (we have University - bachelors degrees in art, science, engineering, law - and TAFE - dipolmas and certificates in trades such as plumbing, hospitality, etc.). Quote:
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One of the college campuses I attended is receiving a Bachelor's degree program. I'm really happy for the students because it's going to make their ability to get the degree and also get work much easier. They no longer have to move out of town to get the degree and living locally will help them get in touch with contacts in the job field.
I hope it all goes smoothly for everyone, but it's definitely something that (should) assist students in the fields. |
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