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Pokegen coming to 6th Gen! Yay or Nay?
What do you guys think of the new web-based Pokegen?
The biggest thing to take note of is that it REQUIRES NO EXTRA DEVICES WHATSOEVER. (With the SD-card reader being an exception.) With the addition of this new tool, would you use it to you heart's content or swear against it? It seems pretty convenient though, but then again I like the idea of breeding and also hate the idea of many who RNG'd their pokes feel worthless. Here it is in action: Thanks Zekrom for teaching me how to use youtube wrap~ Let me know what you think below! Edit: PCEdit is now out. Which allows you to Edit boxes of pokes instead of creating them one by one, oh dear. http://media0.giphy.com/media/4OowbIsmYHbpu/giphy.gif |
Oh so PokeGen is finally coming back? I'm not gonna use it myself cuz I don't really need to these days, but I don't care if other people use it.
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I never used cheating devices to get Pokemon with the IVs I wanted, and never will. I'm against cheating devices since Gen V because I'm very paranoid about my save data being messed up.
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I'm rather wary of cheating devices these days, especially since I've really screwed up save files in the past. So I think I'll just hold off on using this for a while.
Still, it is quite impressive. |
I tend to stay away from cheating devices, I prefer playing legitimately if I'm honest. But it is good to see Pokégen returning for Gen VI.
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I get a feeling I already know which "minor fixes in regards to the playing experience" will be included in one of the next mandatory 3DS/ORAS updates. {XD}
Normally I don't mess around with hacking devices; the only exceptions I made involved getting event exclusives, because screw elitism and even then they are just sitting in their own box anyway. I suppose I could use it for the new trio, but I'll probably wait a while longer. Don't want to mess around with my save file especially not when I have three full boxes of IV bred/EV trained pokes. |
I think Nintendo will crack down on such a thing too with their next updates.
I wouldn't use such a thing regardless. |
I might use it. Already have used the previous versions to get myself event legendaries that cannot be gotten any other way. If it has some function for re-nicknaming Pokemon or creating the same exact Pokemon but with a nickname, I'd definitely use it. But I wouldn't use the device to create anything that is blatantly hax or illegal. I just find it VERY annoying that one cannot rename Pokemon with a different trainer ID. (Particularly for Pokemon from my other games. I AM the original trainer. ><) Nicknames are just that important to me, yes. I won't use a Pokemon that doesn't have a nickname (or a bad one) because it just doesn't feel like it's mine and removes the only level of customization you really have on a Pokemon that isn't stat-based/move-based.
Although I'm a bit hesitant about the method to do it. I'm often intimidated by things that involve codes and more tech-savvy, so I might not do it. |
Maybe for event pokemon, like Mew, Celebi or version Exclusive pokemon...
But for trading and battling, I'd use pokemon I got legitimately |
As much as I'm against this I have to say that the hackers did a great job. I bet it wasn't easy to figure this out.
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Pokegen was a tool used for hacking Pokemon into Pearl, Diamond, Platinum, Heartgold, Soulsilver, Black, White, and Black and White 2 by using an Action Replay, a flashcart, or a GTS sending program. However, on May 20, 2014 the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection service for Nintendo DS and Wii was shut off, ending the era of Pokegenning for generations IV and V for many people. But as you see here people still wanted hacked Pokemon which is why this tool was created and although it doesn't work like the old system, the name "Pokegen" has stuck around. |
whats pokegen? never heard of it.
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I'd love to be able to use it, but I don't wanna **** my game over :/
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I'm steering clear this time around. i'm having way too much fun breeding and having tge limitations I have right now is a challenge, if I went back to software like this there would be too much availabale at my finger tips from the get go, thats not how it's meant to work.
I still stand by that it's useful for testing out competition teams before commiting to breeding them for real. |
Not using it, because I have no interest in hacking my Pokemon. I don't even need to either, I completed my pokedex a few weeks ago after transferring a bunch from 4th/5th gen games.
Let's hope there's a patch soon. |
How would they be able to make a patch for PokeGen though? Maybe I just don't know enough about this sort of thing, but the games can't tell the difference between a legitimately caught/bred Pokemon and a Pokemon created via PokeGen that has legal stats/moves/etc, right?
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I've never used Pokégen or anything RNG-related to help in getting high IV'd Pokémon like that, and if this does keep up it might concern me in what the traders will give out. Not that there are any i've been known to stay away from, but it's understandable why people don't like it.
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I'm not interested in using it because I have a Mac, and in order to use Powersaves I would have to be able to run Windows and I don't really want to go through all of that effort because I doubt I would use it much anyway =/
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I would definitly use it, but only to get event pokemon, starters or recreate pokemon that I've legitimatly bred on previous versions of the games. No way I'd pay for PokeBank just to transfer my favs forward.
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I'd use it if I desperately needed a specific breeding Ditto, but I have every kind of Ditto I would ever need. So no, I won't be using it. :)
I just hope people don't trade with hacks. :( |
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http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=8519302#8519302 |
To hear this is a bit of a double-edged sword, to think that there are going to be hacks everywhere once again, well even more than before is a concern, but for others like myself, having a nice collection of Japanese 6 IV dittos hanging around just for personal breeding use is a godsend, considering how hard it can be to find an RNG'd 6IV ditto to begin with.
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Anyway, I am with Berzerk in that it's nice there will be more 6 IV Dittos to make use of for breeding, at least. |
Well... I'm definitely excited for it!
I've been using Action Replays since Gen III and with each generation following that and I've only ever had my Ruby version crash once when I was like eleven and didn't know what I was doing lol. I'm definitely in support of this, I use editing programs to make parents for breeding or if I'm feeling particularly lazy then I'll just make it and be done with it. I don't like this particular method imo, but I'll either get used to it or wait until something else comes out similar to what we had in Gen V. |
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Personally I feel sad that the Pokémon community is so welcome to hacks. The ease of breeding in 6th gen was certainly an answer to people who hacked because breeding "took too long". I'm expecting to see online battles dominated by hacked mons in no time, under the excuse that the hacked mons are "legal". I also expect the shiny market to be inflated. Another excuse is that people want to "test teams", but for that you have Showdown instead. |
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While I've never used any pokegen related stuff myself, I might use it to save time for breeding. Although, it is pretty nice when that shiny you've been trying for so hard finally hatches. Who knows. I might not use it if it's not compatible with Macs.
Edit: Anyways, I watched the video but I'm not sure what the website is called exactly. I want to try this and see if I can get what I was trying to breed for. Also does anyone know if you can customize ivs, natures, shininess, and abilities? |
Apparently the way PKHex works is that it inserts a Pokemon into the RAM by some exploit in the 3DS webbrowser, but only for certain firmware versions. The Pokemon gets sent into the first slot of Box 1. It also doesn't seem to work for the New 3DS.
So if you want to prevent yourself from using this tool, just make sure to get the most recent 3DS update. Really, all they need to do is to pull a forced 3DS update that prevents you to go to the eshop if not installed. Combine that with a Pokemon update that also locks internet access until installed. Of course, that would just delaying the inevitable. Then again, there are already so many working hacking devices that allow people to hack Pokemon, so there's no delaying anyway. It's one of these things where you're happy to have a whole forum of trustworthy trading partners, right? ;) |
Hopefully the trade markets don't get too flooded with a bunch of people trying to trade hacked pokes. The main reason I wanted to try this was to try and see if I could get myself a bunch of different HP dittos. I wonder if it's also possible to edit where the pokemon came from so that way I could set it to some random country and still be able to do the masuda method.
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This is a n00b question but has anyone actually got it to work? Ive tried twice and I cant get it to work, my only thought it that I have a 3DS XL that I got for Christmas two years ago (2014), but that shouldn't be a problem... should it?
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if you're talking about the website with the tutorial on it then it's http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?44551-Web-Browser-RAM-based-Pokemon-Injection-for-XY-and-ORAS Can you tell me if it works for you? |
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As long as people only use it to get stuff you can normally get in-game and not stupid s**t like Sturdy Shedinja, or Megas holding items I don't mind this too much. But who am I kidding, of course noobs are going to use it for the latter.
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I sure hope I won't come across that thing in the future... >.> |
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I know I never use hacking or cheating devices, but seeing a 6th Gen Pokegen is interesting. It is still welcome news for those who used it in the past.
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What's Pokegen?
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I don't have a problem with Pokegen for making certain legends with IVs/Natures for Hidden Powers, getting 6 IVed Ditto (I did this for myself, should have made loads of them in hindsight, I have completely corrupted my BW2 sav/game from using Pokegen incorrectly in some cases), and transfer only moves such as Defog [email protected]
People using it to make fully legal pokemon to save time isn't something I am against either but that is about it. Using it make things that are not "legal" is something I am against especially if you start trying to trade that stuff to someone online, possibly causing corruption of sav files |
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DAAAAAANG i cant get it to work!! The only thing i think is wrong is that i have a 3DS XL... should that be a problem? I got it for christmas in 2013 so i hope its not |
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Don't worry, I got mine @ 2013 too so that shouldn't be a problem. Your firmware needs to be 9.0-9.4 I believe. Also if it doesn't work try clearing your 3DS' Browser history/cache. And if it still doesn't work try "initialize save data" (which is what I did last time it didn't work.) What doesn't work though? Is there a specific issue? You can try google "PCEdit" Look at my main post and you'll see what it does. |
This is awesome if it really sticks around. I love using PokeGen for my previous games. I hate breeding.
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I'm pretty indifferent to cheating devices in Pokémon. While I probably won't ever use anything like Pokegen, I don't have an issue with other players using it. Even if it'd be easier to simply make my pokemon, I love the process of breeding and training my pokemon in game too much. :)
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What really confuses me is the SD card reader part. I'm planning on trying this later today but that SD card reader part is really screwing with me :/
Edit: So I just tried downloading the software and I have a mac, which means I can't run it. I guess you do actually need a type of windows computer to use it. |
So this is legit. Huh.
I don't know if I want to attempt this. If I do it would mainly to regain all the event Legendaries that I lost for the novelty (due to unfortunate circumstances but that story is for another time). At the same time I have this worry that my game save could be utterly ruined from missing certain steps or something. I'll stick to the OG method of breeding and training though, thanks. |
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Are you confused how to use an SD-Card Reader or...? |
I'm no doubt going to be using this. Between work and school, I'm far too busy to breed Pokes, especially considering they'll just be obsolete after a few months or so.
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So for those who have actually tried this...
Will said Pokemon go through Pokemon Bank/GTS/Random Trade legitimately? |
I'm gonna see how my Shiny Metagross fairs in competitive without breeding and if it fails me I'll give one of these deals a shot. I do not have the patience to breed one with 5 IV's from my 6IV-less Ditto pool.
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Can't say that I would ever use Pokegen as I can obtain anything suitable through the easy rng/breeding methods.
Pokebank and GTS have some terrible filters, so I'm not surprised when there becomes a surplus of hacked Pokemon. |
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I never used Pokegen so I don't know whether or not how specific certain values are because honestly I rarely ever look into that so I think I may pass on attempting this anyway. I was just curious if this does pass through the Bank. althoughifanyonewantstodoacoupleformeIwon'tmindheh |
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I honestly don't want to use it. Maybe to transfer my old partners from previous gens since most of the Pokemon games here pre-Gen VI are bootlegs anyway and I want to bring them over to Gen VI? That's probably what I would do anyway. :/
Or get a bunch of breeding Dittos or maybe Synchronizers 'cause I'm too lazy to actually try and grab Synchronizers of every good nature. But yeah, that's the limit on what I would do. I used to use Pokegen anyway 'cause I wanted to bring over my Gen 4 partners to Gen 5 haha. I honestly never used it to create competitive Pokemon. Plus, with the new breeding mechanics making it much, much easier, I'd prefer not to use it to make one. Also, Showdown's a good way to test out teams in the making. :P |
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In addition to this, Hatch place, Egg recieved place and level met must be legal too. You can't meet a level 4 poke egg that came from an egg, you know that stuff. You also can't have a starter in a dream ball (pretty obvious) Haven't really tested this one though. Also egg moves needs to be legal too + Moves that pokemons can remember. |
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Agreed. Well sorta anyway lol. We all have reasons, sometimes just because of our... morals I guess. I really like your sig, most people should make anime sigs that actually loop and not take long to load - Usually they're pretty obnoxious anyway since the thing is either too short or too long. |
imo these kinds of devices are only useful for acquiring maybe movesets that require a GBA, original DS, and a handful of games to transfer up. Same with Pokéballs. I like the Pokémon I breed, though... Not a lot of time to do that nowadays, though.
I already have 6IV Dittos of most natures, so no need for me to use this :P |
Is there any change of this thing damage your game?
I tried codes in pokemon emerald in my pc emulator and sometimes the game goes crazy. I have never tried pokegen or anything like that before, but it seems like a cool way to 'copy' my game boy advance 'mons to my 3ds game, since i don't won a ds or ds lite or any 4th gen game. Do you guys think i should do it? |
Actually, instead of genning ready-for-competitive pokes, I think I will just make a 6 IV Ditto.
I'll still breed most of my mons using my legitimate 6 IV parents, but for genderless Pokemon... I need. |
Yeah if anything making 6 IV Dittos seem like the main thing most here will be doing if they actually attempt this.
If this bode well for you guys, I wouldn't mind if someone lend me a hand, heh. |
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Yeah I guess so.... I can probably help you get a ditto lol though |
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