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If there is one thing forums have taught me
Is that wether anybody wants to admit it or not, popularity exists.
User who has been around for a while = Everybody loves them New user = Everybody ignores them, and nobody bothers to get to know them better because everyone else is too busy talking with the popular users, thus meaning all of their threads die out. |
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Well, at least I think there needs to be a bit more detail in here. I remember I was venting my thoughts in a word document some time ago, and I built some sort of PC social ladder. I might still have it, and if I can find it, I'll post it. I found it! I was really mad when I was writing this out, so it's worded a bit harshly and with a bit of snark. Still, i think it really applies and adds a bit more detail to what you're trying to say. Spoiler:
Wow, I must have been really mad when I wrote that out because that was really mean. Hopefully you guys take it with a grain of salt, though. The basic message is there, at least. |
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I have a bad feeling I will become one of the last to though. |
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Although there is a certain amount of wariness towards newer members given that they've only been around for a short time, I don't think people consciously treat them as 'unpopular'. I, for one, j'adore honey and she hasn't even celebrated one month of being on this wasteland yet! |
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I'm really still and probably will be for a long while until I actually talk to people and decide to post more interestingly, a 4 and a 7 with the title of a supporter.
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I can understand how some feel towards this "social ladder". When I started out here in 2011, I was a terrible person and often did bad things and felt like I needed to change my reputation. Then come 2012, I was given a Community Supporter title as a birthday gift, because the person who gave it said I "deserved it" and I think it was from there that I realized my mistakes and how it led to becoming what I am today.
And then again, there have been some members who got popular quick, like what Harley summed up. As for where I stand on the social ladder, I think I was a #4 when I started because I was actually a fast poster even when I was new, and I ended up climbing to #3 after I got my supportership. These days I stand at #2 given I am friends with most of the staff and interact with a lot of staff on a personal basis, but I also regularly interact with fellow non-staffers as well for the sake of balance. In fact, some members think that I could one day be on the way to staff myself given the activity and image I've been having on the forums at this rate, but I still take it as a joke at the moment. |
Honestly, while PC does seem to have some hierarchy (like how Nolafus elaborately pointed out at his first post), I'd like to object on the whole "users who have been around for a while" being famous. Pretty sure that there's a lot of users out there that's been on frequently but not really what you could call, "PC famous".
Like really, see my join date? Yeah, I'm not close with any of the staff at all. Maybe a couple of you would object but that's the truth haha. I recall mentioning on a thread quite a long time ago regarding on how I don't want to become staff just to get the elusive "PC famous" title (or did I say the opposite?). That's basically how I view PC's social ladder. Everyone worships the staff. A user leaves staff? Boom! Not important anymore. And if said user is inactive, not "PC famous" anymore. EDIT: Also, if anyone asks, I'll consider myself as a #8 "Lurker of many, poster of none", which is probably 80% of PC's population as well. Unless if anyone considers me to be a #4... can I object to that? :/ |
Oh yeah I'm a newb okay gimme a break okay jesus.
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OP, I’ll be honest and say I know where you’re coming from. From a lot of angles that sort of thing is easily visible, although it’s not so cut-and-dry. As an outsider it can look and appear that way and in a lot of ways what you see as someone not part of it is true… but it’s not the only truth. It’s a big friend circle and to anyone outside it it may seem impenetrable, but it is. Just play along. ;) Things can get really chummy and whatnot around PC, but most everyone here does it in honest fun. That sort of thing isn’t some people’s bag though, and can be a turn-off. Do what you will, try to enjoy yourself. That’s all I can say. |
Lol im new, but im not sure what i classify as. Ussualy i have a small group of friends that chat via pm by now. Not yet though...
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I'm a 3.
Been that way for....god, I forgot how long. |
You are a teenager right?
Let me tell you something. Once you grow up to your twenties popularity aint that important. Just be yourself. If you are a new poster, hey nobody knows you don;t assume them to jump on you I hope you dont expect that in RL either. |
I'm a combination of 2-3-4.
Hitting the 7 year mark later this year I'm counted as a PC Veteran, but that doesn't mean I'm close with any of the staff or anything. They're all nice people to talk to, but it's not like I talk to them on a regular basis out of forum posts and threads.I'm a supporter but I guess I also count as a Well-Traveled Member. Despite me sticking to the Anime/Manga and art/design sections most of the time, I post in multiple places. Just because I have been a while, doesn't mean I am anywhere near popular. There are members here who have been here for around a year or 2, maybe less who are definitely more well known than I am. As to the OP, Nolafus pretty much covered it, but don't expect to hit 7 when you've only just started here. You're a new member, but that doesn't mean you are going to instantly become an outcast. Time is important, but so is networking, talking and meeting new people. Make the effort and do what you can do, post, reply and interact with other people. Personally I feel like PC is a lot different than other forums I've been on (and I've been on A LOT of forums). The atmosphere and the people are incredibly nice and welcoming especially to newcomers. You've just got to go with the flow and start conversing and posting more. |
Popularity is war and your posts are your weapons. Use them wisely and you'll soon climb the top of the world that is PC.
Also don't believe me, I'm a 7. :P |
By the way I am #6 see my join date ? /i come up and down with new games or not ;)
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I'm an outcast, both on here and irl (surprise surprise), but it was my own choice. Dude, I don't give a fuck about popularity. It doesn't define who you are. |
I don't get why PC gets so much hate for its "social ladder". PC is pretty chilled compared to some forums, Mods act just like normal members, Ive seen forums where mods are unknown using a user account just for modding and another account for normal postings.
Also nothing is worse than people brown nosing Mods and the elite cliques that sometimes pop up, which does not happen on here (or least not from what I have seen). All in all its quite a nice happy community on here, or at least thats what I feel. as for the number thing no idea which number I would be. |
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I also think that PC's social ladder is more forgiving than other forums, but that doesn't mean I have to like it, haha. |
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There's absolutely cliques and popularity and all that stuff on forums, but the kind of popularity you can find online or on forums is different from the kind of popularity in schools and work and stuff like that. It's easier to get noticed, to be heard, and to have your opinion matter in the discussion even if you aren't popular... because especially in a lot of discussion-based areas of the forum (rather than idle chit-chat), people are looking for quality posters to talk to and if the discussion is good, I know for me it's never mattered who's on the other end. Whether they're someone super popular or someone with 10 posts, I treat them more or less the same.
I've been here for 12ish years now and now I'm mostly inactive, so a lot of the members who are super popular right now, I look at them and go "who the heck are you!?" I didn't watch 'em climb the social ladder and to me they're no different from someone who joined last week. In my day, I had a few years where I was really popular (mostly because of my staff rank but I like to think some of it was because of who I am too... don't crush my dreams orz), but now I bet most people have no clue who I am. The only people I notice treating me differently (actually striking up conversation outside of a thread discussion, or striking up conversation tangents in a thread) are people I've known for a long time. If you put in the effort to be nice and get along with people and don't disappear all the time, I think PC is pretty good about rewarding you with "social rank" so to speak. |
I'd not really say that time brings popularity. It definitely doesn't with some of our more... notorious members. There's correlation, sure, but not causation. This makes more sense if you look at it the other way around - it's not really a surprise that those who make more friends stay around longer. Anyone could tell you that the people who enjoy being part of this community most are generally the most sociable. What else is a community for?
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But I do agree that there can be like a childish sorta popularity thing that goes around here. I really don't get why people do it. The people who get in those positions though.. boy do they ever let it get to their heads. Hot damn.. I've learned you can make some really genuine friends from this forum. And it's also a place you can pour your heart out in. People will still judge you, but not in a way that is intended to hurt you- but in a way that simply conflicts with their own personal points of view that they will just like to point out (which is fair enough IMO.) Forums taught me there are many different sorts of people out there in the world.. |
every forum is definitely staff-centric to an extent and there are absolutely members here and elsewhere that get off on being noticed by staff and getting modded and whatnot, but it's kind of the exception, not the rule. it's really hard to establish an actual social hierarchy on a forum like this because there are so many different cliques and so many different kinds of people that it'd be really hard to have an actual group that's respected by everyone and never catches any flak for anything. like, I'll be honest, there are probably some staff that I wouldn't get along with, so their being staff means nothing to me in the long run with regards to getting to know them. it's just a fancy color or title, it means nothing.
also, I don't believe that being friends with staff automatically makes you more popular. like if you're a really annoying person but you happen to be friends with an admin, it's not gonna make people automatically like you more and I think that's a silly preconception people have. uhh, this post is probably really disjointed. Sorry! |
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