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Mittens95 February 16th, 2015 9:17 AM

Biking Simulator 2014
 
In the post game, people often hatch eggs for getting certain moves, IVs, or just to get a shiny Pokemon, which we all know is basically riding a bike in circles for hours in the Battle Resort. As tedious as it is, do you enjoy or not mind doing it? Or does it bother you?

I personally don't mind as long as I'm watching a movie/tv show or listening to a music album in the background.

Volga February 16th, 2015 9:29 AM

I don't mind doing it, especially since there is a certain part that you can just hold up and it goes around with no interruptions. However there are sand pits, so you slow down a bit, but at least you don't have to press anything else.
I just tape down the Up D-Pad button and do something, most of the time I just make a snack and watch either Markiplier or GMM. :)

Nah February 16th, 2015 10:59 AM

lol biking simulator

It's not as bad as in previous games since we have the infinite bike loop in the Battle Resort. Just hold up for a while and yer good. Breeding is still pretty boring though. But I do so much of it anyway.....

Gardevoir the Dragon Slayer February 16th, 2015 11:01 AM

sometimes I just go round in a circle lol, Its best in the battle resort where you can change the music.

Hikamaru February 16th, 2015 12:40 PM

I know I'm not a competitive player who constantly hatches eggs, but that infinite loop in the Battle Resort doesn't really feel "infinite" because of a good chance you'd bump into a tree or having to constantly avoid obstacles.

I find it more inconvenient than the circle around Lumiose City's Prism Tower in X/Y.

Death February 16th, 2015 3:46 PM

I find biking in Pokemon on its own to be completely boring since I've done it for a very long time already. I seem to not mind it if I'm watching TV or doing other things that require attention but not too much input from both of my hands.

I also find the Pokemon cries (in ORAS) to be very annoying after hours of biking around the battle resort, so I tend to just mute the game.

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but that infinite loop in the Battle Resort doesn't really feel "infinite" because of a good chance you'd bump into a tree or having to constantly avoid obstacles.
Also, the loop in the BR is infinite, there's just many instances that the loop can be broken by straying from it by even a centimeter. Such as letting go of the up button and entering another tile that deviates from the path which can cause the character to bump into something and completely stop.

Pendraflare February 16th, 2015 5:02 PM

I found out about the trick from resources, and it's an alright procedure. But I haven't done too much breeding in ORAS at all anyway, although I usually have attention of something else while i'm going about it.

bobandbill February 16th, 2015 5:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 8621148)
I know I'm not a competitive player who constantly hatches eggs, but that infinite loop in the Battle Resort doesn't really feel "infinite" because of a good chance you'd bump into a tree or having to constantly avoid obstacles.

I find it more inconvenient than the circle around Lumiose City's Prism Tower in X/Y.

As pointed earlier, it is infinite, you just need to pick the right 'line' to keep on. If you get it right once you hit a corner you hold up, and you'll continue going around while holding up until the end of time.

I do appreciate that they put this in, but I cannot understand why they put the sand pits there. It doesn't break the loop, but it does extend the time taken, and otherwise add nothing. It doesn't even make much sense; you'd think people tending the resort would want to remove piles of sand people get stuck in? It just makes me think 'why?'.

But really, I feel they could do better, and have done. It can be tedious to go about in circles to hatch a Pokemon, and it does add up when you want to make a team or few. Why not bring back aspects like Join Avenue in B2W2, which when levelled up an egg shop would instantly hatch a number of Pokemon for a small price each day? Or let NPCs be hireable to just do the biking about for you. Let people hatch Pokemon by themselves as well, but it certainly could be made easier.

Altairis February 16th, 2015 9:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 8621499)
But really, I feel they could do better, and have done. It can be tedious to go about in circles to hatch a Pokemon, and it does add up when you want to make a team or few. Why not bring back aspects like Join Avenue in B2W2, which when levelled up an egg shop would instantly hatch a number of Pokemon for a small price each day? Or let NPCs be hireable to just do the biking about for you. Let people hatch Pokemon by themselves as well, but it certainly could be made easier.

I have to second this. I'm glad that they put the infinite lop and 2 daycares in the game but why do we have to go through all this effort? Why is egg hatching so time consuming in the first place? I guess they want to simulate how eggs hatch over time if they're carried by a good trainer but the amount of steps for some Pokemon is ridiculous :P

Stormerbuzz35 February 16th, 2015 10:48 PM

Good topic title! I recently started breeding for competitive battling mainly cause I want to battle and losing isn't fun. The loop, the O-powers and Flame Body all reduce hatching time but it still takes too long. For me, it would be enough if the faster hatching times of Flame Body and Magma Armour could stack to make the number of needed steps like a quater of what it usualy is. On a plus, they atleast brought back the option to make the L button work like the A button, meaning you only need 1 hand to hatch eggs.

Starry Windy February 17th, 2015 3:05 AM

As much as I enjoyed riding a loop on a bike to hatch the egg in the Battle Resort, I find it a bit troublesome because the loop can be interrupted when I bump into people or walls when I'm looking away a bit. But I enjoyed it regardless, thanks to the Hatching Power that I've maxed to Lv. 3.

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Originally Posted by Death (Post 8621372)
I also find the Pokemon cries (in ORAS) to be very annoying after hours of biking around the battle resort, so I tend to just mute the game.

It's one of my concerns when considering to make Battle Resort my hatching route, but I managed to make a route there without any worry of Pokémon alerts in the DexNav here and there, by riding on the upper floor of the Battle Resort (the one where Battle Maison is located, I think). The area is more limited, for sure, but I think it's still acceptable for a small egg-hatching loop.

matt15rsp February 17th, 2015 4:22 AM

It is pretty boring. They need an egg incubating key item to hatch eggs for you

destinedjagold February 18th, 2015 1:52 AM

I don't mind it, though I miss the method we had in X and Y.
...Also, I don't do my breeding projects and biking simulator in the Battle Resort, but rather in the Route west of Mauville. Other than the fact that I HATE the quicksand-like sands in the Battle Resort, I like the music of the route and Verdanturf Town than in the Battle Resort. :3

Leviathan February 18th, 2015 2:32 AM

As someone who did a lot of egg hatching back in Pearl/Diamond, I really appreciate the infinite egg loop. It makes the whole breeding process a bit less tedious. I love that you can use the continuous route and do something else to pass the time then.

Dracowyn February 19th, 2015 11:26 AM

The infinite loop is really handy in my opinion. But you do indeed need something else to keep you busy.

The X/Y one was more handy though, I just put a card under my circle pad so I'd go right on my own and wouldn't even have to hold a button. The battle resort one is pretty hard to do with the circle pad.

Stroker Ace February 19th, 2015 1:30 PM

All about that flame body, flame body, flame body, no waiting

bobandbill February 19th, 2015 8:17 PM

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Originally Posted by destinedjagold (Post 8623020)
I don't mind it, though I miss the method we had in X and Y.
...Also, I don't do my breeding projects and biking simulator in the Battle Resort, but rather in the Route west of Mauville. Other than the fact that I HATE the quicksand-like sands in the Battle Resort, I like the music of the route and Verdanturf Town than in the Battle Resort. :3

The Battle Resort does allow you to change the music however. Talking to an NPC a bit south of the Day Care will randomly change the song to one from a short list.

That is a welcome addition for myself. Hatching eggs has never been so dramatic when you throw in Wally's 90s rock-guitar theme. :V

Candy February 19th, 2015 8:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 8625489)
Hatching eggs has never been so dramatic when you throw in Wally's 90s rock-guitar theme. :V

WAAAY better than the cycling theme or the Lumiose City theme. Man, I got so sick of the cycling theme 'til I found out about the track-changing at the Battle Resort. Lumiose though... Infinite loop without needing to constantly switch buttons whenever you hatch an egg (unlike ORAS' infinite loop) with the price of listening to Lumiose's theme over and over... and over... and over...

Nah February 20th, 2015 4:38 AM

I almost forgot that you could change the Battle Resort music lol. I always listen to other stuff when breeding.

Howmander February 20th, 2015 5:52 AM

is 5 - 10 minutes to hatch 5 eggs at a time REALLY that big of a deal to people? I see so many posts talking about how long it takes to hatch eggs, but with infinite loops in both games and locking the control stick in a specific direction it's 5 - 10 minutes (depending on which pokemon) of auto hatching, what more do people really want? I'm personally thankful that the egg hatching is so fast now

Megan February 20th, 2015 6:05 AM

The only "problems" I have are those damn sandpits and that stupid fear of my 3DS breaking because of constantly holding Up on my D-Pad {XD}

PokéMew February 20th, 2015 10:34 AM

Yes, I'll just get straight to the point, I do mind biking to hatch eggs. I can see why Nintendo made it this way to hatch eggs, because honestly there couldn't really be a better way to do so.. But overall yes, I hate hatching eggs -_-

bobandbill February 20th, 2015 2:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Howmander (Post 8625785)
is 5 - 10 minutes to hatch 5 eggs at a time REALLY that big of a deal to people? I see so many posts talking about how long it takes to hatch eggs, but with infinite loops in both games and locking the control stick in a specific direction it's 5 - 10 minutes (depending on which pokemon) of auto hatching, what more do people really want? I'm personally thankful that the egg hatching is so fast now

To hatch five eggs? Of course it's hardly a bother! But that's not an issue for those who do a lot of breeding (and I don't feel I can even count myself in that group, haha). Consider those who want to make a number of teams for multiplayer play. You tend to hatch eggs for the same species a number of times to maximise IVs, so you do that biking event over and over. Then consider that there have been better ways to go about it (e.g. Join Avenue!), and that really, holding a direction for five minutes or so is just flat out boring play. We play Pokemon for the exploration, the monsters and the battling, rather than to go around a loop yet again to get the Pokemon we want.

And then consider people who have been hatching eggs across multiple games, even generations of games. No wonder it can feel repetitive. =p

Truthfully I only do it while watching tv or something as a distraction. But it would be nice if they did something ala Join Avenue again. Infinite loops are nice, but really... it could be better.

alzam February 20th, 2015 3:12 PM

Ya I dont mind hatching eggs, but Im one of thos people with a lot of patience so its really no big deal. Plus using a bike and a pokemon with flame body makes hatching pretty quick most of the time.

Howmander February 20th, 2015 3:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 8626327)
To hatch five eggs? Of course it's hardly a bother! But that's not an issue for those who do a lot of breeding (and I don't feel I can even count myself in that group, haha). Consider those who want to make a number of teams for multiplayer play. You tend to hatch eggs for the same species a number of times to maximise IVs, so you do that biking event over and over. Then consider that there have been better ways to go about it (e.g. Join Avenue!), and that really, holding a direction for five minutes or so is just flat out boring play. We play Pokemon for the exploration, the monsters and the battling, rather than to go around a loop yet again to get the Pokemon we want.

And then consider people who have been hatching eggs across multiple games, even generations of games. No wonder it can feel repetitive. =p

Truthfully I only do it while watching tv or something as a distraction. But it would be nice if they did something ala Join Avenue again. Infinite loops are nice, but really... it could be better.

I do hatch lots of eggs, I IV and egg move breed and have logged 999:59 hours on my game (a LOT more but the timer stops there) ad I hatch whole boxes of a species at a time until I get 5 - 6 IV pokemon with the egg moves and abilities I want and I'm not breeding for teams, I'm breeding every single species of pokemon in the entire game to be usable and to have their 5 - 6 IV stats, so don't tell me I don't know what it's like to breed a lot of pokemon, cause I absolutely do. Also, I never said to hold a direction for 5 minutes, I said to lock the control stick in a specific direction, as in fold up a piece of paper and gently slide it under the control stick and it's 5 - 10 minutes of auto hatching. You can go do other stuff while waiting for the game to automatically hatch your eggs for you, like look up the movesets for the next pokemon you're going to breed, watch TV, make dinner, text friends, go on facebook, whatever. Surely I can't be the only one on earth that figured out how to hatch eggs automatically rather than sitting there staring at the screen holding the control stick. How easy do you want it, really? Would you prefer to catch only level 100, fully evolved pokemon with limitless master balls? Would you rather they did away entirely with the mechanics of the game and not do ANY catching or breeding but rather at the start of the game you simply are given the lsit of all pokemon with perfect IVs stats, you select the moves you want and it's just given to you at level 100? No matter how easy they make breeding pokemon (especially in this gen) people always want it easier. I'll never understand that. "Hatching an entire box of Nosepass in the time it takes to watch a half hour sitcom? I WANT IT EASIER!!" yeesh!

bobandbill February 20th, 2015 4:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Howmander
*stuff*

I never said that you don't know that, I just made the point that it can be tedious when you do a lot of eggs. You said it's not hard at all for five, but I felt it was worth pointing out that people won't be bother by just five - five times a very large number is a different matter and can add up.

And I said myself that I do stuff like watch tv when hatching eggs. No need to rant like that though, I never exaggerated to that extent... (Although it's fair to not that while I don't use it myself, what you described with 'no catching, just a list of perfect Pokemon', etc, is an apt description for battle simulators like the sort used in Showdown. So yeah, people actually do like that.

At any rate, it's human nature to want to do things easier. Why else do people use powersaves or other external devices/programs to help them make perfect Pokemon? I dislike that sort of thing and much rather just do it as the game intended, but don't be surprised that people find it tedious to the point of discussing ways it could be better, or cheating to skip the process.


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