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Stroker Ace February 19th, 2015 1:36 PM

Am I the only one who doesn't use fly anymore?
 
I mean, with the introduction of Soar, why even use Fly anymore? In online matches, the two-turn move lets the opponent switch to a steel pokemon or whatnot. Thing is, a lot of people at the Pokemon Club use it still, and it bewilders me. I know it's a bit of a pain using soar, but personally, I see no more need to use Fly. Plus it frees up a move space for your competitive team. But to each their own, I suppose.

Having said that, do you still use fly? If so, for what reason?

Dracowyn February 19th, 2015 1:51 PM

I still use fly. It's faster than soaring, especially for faraway locations.

Plus, it's not such a bad move ingame. The AI is pretty much too dumb to switch in anyways. But soaring is indeed handy for people who don't use fly or don't want an ingame team with a flying pokemon just to move around.

Megan February 19th, 2015 1:53 PM

I'm using Fly on my breeder Talonflame. It's more about efficiency, really. I don't want to waste more time having to fly somewhere by my own, when I can still use the old fashioned automated way that flies me across the whole region in no time.

I think it wouldn't be so bad if we hadn't to watch the mega evolution cutscene every time. It's just such a time waster...

TheGhosteon February 19th, 2015 2:20 PM

Fly would be useless if I were a competitive player. But I'm not. So I still use it, since it's convenient.

blue February 19th, 2015 2:26 PM

I originally had Fly on my Altaria right up until I was able to use the Soar feature, now I use that instead of Fly completely. It's way more efficient and gets you directly to where you need to be.

Hikamaru February 19th, 2015 2:30 PM

I use the Soar feature with my Latias all the time, but I'll still use the traditional Fly in games where Soaring doesn't exist, given it's likely the feature will end up being OR/AS-exclusive.

Lucifer February 19th, 2015 2:33 PM

I deleted fly from my Skarmory the moment I acquired the ability to soar. True, it can take me some extra time to locate my desired destination because my sense of direction on the map isn't the best but the extra precision is well worth the freed up pokemon/move slot.

Most of the time especially in my more recent playthroughs of any game, I'd rather not teach an HM I didn't desire to use in battle purely for its inability to be removed until reaching the move deleter who is typically located in one of the last three gym cities in any version. I've noticed that they're becoming more and more useless both in and out of battle with each generation. Surf and fly are the only HMs which are still efficient but I'd been jonesing to teach my Skarmory Steel Wing (or maybe it was metal claw, I just know it was a steel move) with fly as its only move I was willing to part with.

In addition, the wild battles are interesting, not to mention possibly useful being the highest leveled in the game pre-Ever Grande. In addition, since soaring is the only way mirage spots can be accessed it just makes sense to combine fly with that for a single mode of air transportation.

While some find the repeated wait through the opening animation obnoxious I don't have a problem with it and I don't understand the argument that flying is faster. That is true but barely. Once you get used to the soar map it only takes a few extra seconds if you don't end up in a wild battle along the way and when you think about it fly's opening animation is just about as long as soar's.

Nah February 19th, 2015 2:36 PM

I haven't used Fly in ORAS since I unlocked the ability to Soar. Yeah, Flying's faster, but Soaring doesn't take that long and is waaaaaaaaay cooler.

Pendraflare February 19th, 2015 3:46 PM

The only real reason I bother with Fly is when I go into the menu with the PokéNav to see which trainers want to rematch me or what not. Other than that, soaring is the way to go most of the time.

destinedjagold February 19th, 2015 6:34 PM

If only we could skip the cutscenes when soaring, then I'd probably use it more. But since we couldn't, I'll be sticking with fly. :P

gamercomix615 February 19th, 2015 7:17 PM

I use fly when.... I guess I don't use it.

Bounsweet February 19th, 2015 8:51 PM

I don't use it at all anymore lol. I've always hated how Fly (and Surf) take up move slots when they're moves that a Pokémon should be able to use anyway... like [email protected] and Soar lol. The little cut scenes and having to actually do the Flying are so worth not having to keep a random Pokémon in my party just for Fly.

DyingWillFlareon February 19th, 2015 9:00 PM

I really enjoy the Soaring cutscenes and such. And even did exactly like Blue- I instantly got rid of Fly from my own Altaria in favor of Soar. Even was able to get rid of Surf and Waterfall after reaching Evergrande! Actually I think you need at least Surf for Victory Road..... But whatever.
I didn't use Latias ingame so this makes up for it. Getting to Soar on her is awesome and I've memorized the entire Hoenn map in better detail then I had before, along with Mirage Spots and other legends. I even found Cresent Isle twice.... Too bad Cresselia doesn't respawn. XD
Anyhow, I agree that Soar might be the new 'walking Pokemon' thing. I still use fly in Y of course, except I always forget and open my Town Map from the select menu first. :/

Meganium February 19th, 2015 9:27 PM

I already unlocked Soar, but I still use Fly...even in battle too. I haven't really bothered to delete the move. lmao.

ANARCHit3cht February 19th, 2015 9:35 PM

I don't even have the games and had no idea this was a feature but I'm suddenly getting the urge to throw money at my computer screen until a 3DS and Pokemon OR/AS pops out. Needless to say, if I had the game I'd soar all the time.

If you never hear from me again its because I spent all my money to acquire the ability to Soar and am thus living under a cardboard box with my shiny new Pokemon game.

Drakonaait February 20th, 2015 2:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zekrom (Post 8625108)
I haven't used Fly in ORAS since I unlocked the ability to Soar. Yeah, Flying's faster, but Soaring doesn't take that long and is waaaaaaaaay cooler.

You mean "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cooler." :p

Howmander February 20th, 2015 3:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGhosteon (Post 8625080)
Fly would be useless if I were a competitive player. But I'm not. So I still use it, since it's convenient.

Fly actually can be used competitively as it can force a switch out, people always forget that. Particularly if (for example) a Golurk is using it, so they swap into a steel or rock type to not take much damage from Fly but then after it lands it can use Earthquake or a fighting move, so two turn moves do have their place in specific situations, even at the very least just buying yourself extra turns for time.

KostK2Boss February 20th, 2015 4:32 AM

As a few others have said, the Soaring animations can be time-consuming. I mean yes, they only last a few more seconds than the Flying animations, but when you regularly have to fly between Blissey Secret Base(s), Lilicove City (for the lottery), specific Horde locations and the Battle Resort, those extra few seconds start to add up. And seeing how you can put your Wifi team in your Battle Box, I don't see what's the deal with having a Fly user in your party, unless you want to have two different Wifi teams between the Battle Box and your actual party, so you can alternate between the two.

PokéMew February 20th, 2015 10:18 AM

I use fly all the time still, like everyone else said, it's faster. Soar is definitely more fun and exciting I suppose, but that doesn't change the fact that I'd prefer to use fly over soar when going from Mossdeep to Fallarbor :)

Altius February 20th, 2015 10:25 AM

I don't use fly anymore, but I'm having second thoughts.

Soaring to a place like Meteor Falls (secret base) is always a pain.

RedJ February 20th, 2015 8:38 PM

I use Soar more than Fly, but I still use Fly on occasion. I mostly just want to stay in the habit of using it because Game Freak probably wont be including it in the next game because Game Freak.

The Amazing Justin February 20th, 2015 9:08 PM

I always use Fly because I am fly.

PlatinumDude February 20th, 2015 10:21 PM

As soon as I gained access to the Eon Flute, I boxed Swellow and used soaring as my main town-hopping method. It may be more time-consuming to go from one town to the other, but it's more fun.

Arylett Charnoa February 21st, 2015 1:03 AM

I removed Fly for the move slot wasting issue and now exclusively use Soar. Yes, Fly's more convenient. Especially for me, because I get super lost and don't know the layout of Hoenn all that well, so it takes me forever to find where I'm going. But I don't really care. Don't want to waste that slot. And whilst I hate that Mega Evolution cutscene and find it cumbersome, I like the classic feeling of flying through the region. It's like an old Final Fantasy game from the Playstation era. I just love world maps and airships. Also, I usually find some Mirage Spots and Legendaries as I'm going along too.

Cyclone February 21st, 2015 6:52 PM

It's still quicker to move about the game using Fly, and if you have a Talonflame with Flame Body, it gives you the extra Egg hatching help (note to self, clone my Lv.100 one to move over for the Battle Resort). However, Soaring just is more fun.

I've been pottering about in Smash lately, but when I swap back into Pokémon, I'll be looking at getting my Pokédex full so I can start hunting down Egg Moves and then breed for Shinies.

sab February 21st, 2015 7:50 PM

When the idea of soaring was first shown off, I honestly thought that they were going to replace the fly mechanic with soaring. I can't really say that I use soaring much, but that's only because I always carry around an HM slave for busy work, and it happens to have fly. I guess it's slightly faster to fly than to soar, but I honestly don't see why they need both in the game.

Twilight-kun February 21st, 2015 8:02 PM

The things I like about Soaring is the Night Music (reminded me of Unova's gate theme) and the Mirage Spots

I wish there were more Pokémon options though, like Rayquaza and Mega Pidgeot

HUGE missed opportunity there...ah well, maybe next Gen

Starry Windy February 21st, 2015 8:51 PM

I still use Fly at times, in case I want to go to some routes quickly. Even though Soar is also the cool alternative to fly, because I love its music, and how I can ride my Latias to where I wanted to be.

Altairis February 21st, 2015 11:12 PM

I never use Fly anymore! This was especially useful when I was completing the Hoenn Pokedex. My party consisted of my lv 100 Sceptile with False Swipe and 5 Pokemon that I was trying to level up with the EXP Share so they would evolve. Maximum efficiency because then I didn't have to carry a Fly HM slave while I walked around Hoenn :) Plus, Soaring doesn't take that long anyway, and you can encounter the Mirage Islands and catch even more Pokemon.

antemortem February 22nd, 2015 7:58 AM

uhhh... I find it kind of inconvenient to have to wait for the soar and land animations, as they are a few seconds longer than the Fly animations. Plus, I don't really like having to hover over the cities (somewhat too precisely for my tastes) to land, and tapping the map on the bottom screen and hitting Fly is a lot quicker. I do soar a lot, don't get me wrong - I just haven't replaced using Fly with it.

JP February 24th, 2015 2:55 PM

The animations can be a pain to go through when you have multiple places you want to go to, but it's definitely more fun and dare I say easier than needing an HM Fly slave in your party. I use the Soaring mechanic most of the time lol.

LightningAlex February 26th, 2015 7:32 AM

In the beginning, I didn't use Fly at all, because soaring was way too good to not use. But now it got a bit boring, and the cutscenes are too long, so I use Fly again (Except when searching for new Mirage spots everyday). Oh well...

Candy February 26th, 2015 8:27 AM

Well in the beginning I used Soar all the time. But then it got tedious when I'm flying to search for Secret Bases and the like. Honestly, I don't want to fly from the Battle Resort all the way to Route 115 just to go to my Secret Base manually, it's faster to use Fly.

It's easier to have a Pokemon with Fly so you can immediately fly to a location via AreaNav. Other than that, I use Soar if I feel like exploring the Hoenn skies or searching for Mirage Spots.

I'd use soar all the time if the cutscene isn't so long though. Pokemon Rangers: Guardian Signs simply had the [email protected] swoop down, pick you up and boom, you're flying in the sky already! Not to mention they have an area list that you could use as shortcuts. The spin-off did a good job making soaring not too tedious, why can't they do that? At least put shortcuts to the cities and towns.

Gligar February 26th, 2015 9:11 AM

Personally, on average, I use fly like around 10 to 11 times per 4 hours or so.

Wobb February 26th, 2015 8:09 PM

I use Fly all the time. i would Soar if the Mega Evolving thing and landing things were shorter. And if you could just press where you wanted to go and then you're there.
But, Flying is just so much faster!

PlayRoughh February 27th, 2015 1:50 PM

i never use fly anymore lol! eon flute is the best

Leviathan February 27th, 2015 2:12 PM

I don't think I've used Fly at all this generation. I don't have the 6th gen games and the fast travel provided by the NPC did most of the fly-worthy traveling for me anyway. Soaring imo is simply better -- despite the mandatory cutscene. Plus; mirage spots! Which I think you can't get to using fly?

LyokoGirl5000 February 28th, 2015 3:19 PM

I use Fly in my Alpha Sapphire. Not in my failed Omega Ruby Wonderlocke. I don't see the point of Fly once I get the ability to Soar for the story. Fly's useful for Secret Base hunting, Soaring is better for getting to places.

mikey February 28th, 2015 9:07 PM

Fly is quicker for me. When you soar, you have to wait and watch Lati mega-evolve and I aint got time for that.

Soaring is cool tho.

Alfieri February 28th, 2015 9:25 PM

If I have a Pokemon with Fly in my party, I'll use Fly. If not, I'll soar.

SleeplessUmbreon March 2nd, 2015 12:07 PM

Soar for me is better, I really love the cutscenes

Mimikyu402 March 3rd, 2015 5:46 AM

Fly is faster since you dont have to see the darn mega evolve scene each time like with soar and flying alow you to land on any specific route now just like soar does

HSV15 March 5th, 2015 12:16 AM

I generally find myself using soar most times as I only carry my three main Pokemon with me (Sceptile, Mightyena, Metagross) but if it's a short distance, say Mauville to Verdanturf (should walk but too lazy :p) I use fly if it's on hand.

colter519 March 6th, 2015 11:26 PM

It kind of depends on how I'm feeling for me. I find soaring to be more fun, but I am sick of that mega evolution cutscene (I zone out during it now). Also, checking on mirage spots daily is nice. However, if I have extra room in my party or I'm hopping around to check on berries, rematches, secret bases, etc. it's much more convenient to use fly since I can select it from my pokenav. And yes, I do farm berries all over. It's pretty convenient now that you can fly to a specific route, and the berry master still has a limit to how many can be grown there...

Tetra March 7th, 2015 7:25 AM

I still use it quite often, actually! The [email protected] animation is cool and all but it's time consuming and just flying does the job better. It's quite a waste to use the HM though when you can fly on the Eon when it doesn't even need to be on your party.

When I do fly on my Latios though, oh man it is fun! I like going as high as I can and just generally flying and messing around before I go to where I'm actually supposed to go lol.

Dedenne1 March 7th, 2015 8:55 AM

My Altraria knew at first but i deleted it b/c i got a Latias! Im gonna ride it everywhere i go!
Literally i just imagine myself riding into a city on a mega evolved Latias how sick is that? Im just flying everywhere on her now! Plus i like to fly around look at everywhere and see the mirage islands and such. Why would i use boring old fly anymore? Haha

Sheep March 7th, 2015 11:57 AM

I use Fly all the time. @[email protected]; It's definitely convenient not needing a flyer on your team to go places but soaring takes a while and I'm almost always in a hurry when flying around. It's just a lot more convenient for someone like me who goes back and forth often for way too many things. :(

colter519 March 8th, 2015 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadSamaritan (Post 8645883)
I don't care for soar being limited to only the latis. I love both of them oh so much and used latias on the initial playthrough, but having to have one of them in your party just to then sit through the cutscenes is too much for me.

You don't have to have one of them in your party. In fact, you could even trade away or release your latias/latios and you'd still be able to soar. The most convenient thing about soar is that you call the pokemon from wherever it happens to be, without you even needing to use it.

FirestormProdigy March 8th, 2015 12:53 AM

I use it. With the addition of the new fly mechanic where you can fly to routes now it makes pokemon hunting much more easier. Plus you dont get the eon flute until sometime after you get fly, or at least as far as i can remember. Ive been playing competitive for so long now i cant remember the storyline XD

Kameken March 8th, 2015 1:11 AM

I use fly.

It's not a terrible move itself, and it's the best flying STAB move I can give my dragonite, Volg. Worst case scenario, they switch out when the move starts and it doesn't do much damage.

People always worry about switchouts too much. Unless the opponent knows I'll use fly before I do, they'll only switch out after the first turn, so on the second turn they take slight damage and Volg is ready for action.

Unless I have Volg with me, though, I go with the Soar function, and I really hope they bring it into the future games.

Spoiler:
They won't.

adameastment March 8th, 2015 2:29 PM

I use fly up until the point I get Soar, it is cooler and to be honest it does mean you can remove the need for having a specific flying poke in your party - especially seeing as ORAS already needs a HM slave in the first place, which I think is the only thing I dislike about the start of ORAS.

Either way, I haven't used Fly competitively since I came back to Pokemon with X and Y (which is pretty limited - granted).

Centipede Chan March 8th, 2015 2:49 PM

Yeah fly is so gone from me it practically needs a wanted poster. But seriously as soon as you get the ability to soar it's practically useless and saves a move/pokemon slot.


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