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Pendraflare March 5th, 2015 8:10 AM

I'll admit this is somewhat crazy, but I guess it may have to do with how Japan was where Pokémon stemmed from. It is true though, I do wish we could get some of those events alongside them. Possibly in due time.

KillerTyphlosion March 5th, 2015 2:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Howmander (Post 8643021)
to make everyone want them, really. Years ago when gen 3 was new, if someone got a shiny Metagross is was spectacular, amazing, people were envious because it looked so cool. Fast Forward to when ORAS was released 4 months ago and quite literally EVERYONE who owns the game can get a shiny metagross (or beldum, but eventually a metagross) and now they're pretty ho hum. Same thing would happen with the event legendaries. Something that is only given out at a movie release or a specific pokemon event in real life has people clamouring for it, trying to get their own, wanting it so badly because they can't have it. Would there be that level of excitement and desire if everyone who owned the game just automatically got an Arceus? When was the last time you heard anyone in the last 4 months asking for a Deoxys the way they used to? Not at all I would assume since everyone who owns ORAS gets a Deoxys.

You say everyone want them, but pretty much for everyone who lives in japan can easily get most of the event pokémons. Lots of those events are from codes you can get from a cheap magazine or going to a pokémon center and japan is full of those. For the diancie code in my country I had to pre-order the oras game and I did that and then I hear that the store never even got the codes although it stated on the website that if you would pre-order it at that store you would get the code. My problem is is while pokemon is like an international game since generation 1 we still don't even get half of the events japan gets.

Nihilego March 5th, 2015 3:02 PM

I will never, ever understand why people are so bothered that a Japan gets cool stuff in a Japanese game.

Tetra March 5th, 2015 3:43 PM

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Originally Posted by shenanigans (Post 8643493)
I will never, ever understand why people are so bothered that a Japan gets cool stuff in a Japanese game.

Exactly. It would be something else if the games originated in a western location, but that's not the case. We do get some cool events every now and then and I'm perfectly fine with that.

lilbluedemon March 5th, 2015 4:17 PM

I agree with the two above, Tetra and shenanigans.

Pokémon originated from Japan, it's audience is a LOT bigger there.
It's no surprise they got more than us, and I'm fine with them getting more stuff.

blue March 5th, 2015 7:06 PM

It's just the way it is, and has been for a long time. To be fair though it does seem like the international release of events has increased over the last few years.

Hikamaru March 5th, 2015 7:20 PM

It's true, Japan gets more because they are the home of Pokemon.

However, the one thing that bugs me lately is the events mainly being one-use codes, and it's always hard to even get said codes in the first place. I remember reading someone on Tumblr explain the pros and cons of the system in general.

Cerberus87 March 5th, 2015 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by R.F. (Post 8642899)
It's really sad, but there's nothing we could do about it. Maybe someday, Nintendo realizes that they don't need to be so Japan centric.

Hahaha considering the shitty (and now non-existent) Nintendo support in my country you should consider yourself lucky you even get stuff from time to time! :P

I don't know who handles the events, but it's probably Nintendo, and they don't seem to care about the Western market as much. A pity really.

Howmander March 6th, 2015 3:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerTyphlosion (Post 8643486)
You say everyone want them, but pretty much for everyone who lives in japan can easily get most of the event pokémons. Lots of those events are from codes you can get from a cheap magazine or going to a pokémon center and japan is full of those. For the diancie code in my country I had to pre-order the oras game and I did that and then I hear that the store never even got the codes although it stated on the website that if you would pre-order it at that store you would get the code. My problem is is while pokemon is like an international game since generation 1 we still don't even get half of the events japan gets.

Um… I don't think you actually read my post at all. You want them, right? I want them, practically everyone on these boards want them, and that's exactly what I said the reason was.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 6th, 2015 1:46 PM

I actually am missing the Gen V way of doing events...and I didn't like that they just handed them to you or made you have to go to a GameStop or other place, but at least they were more widely available...

Chiaki Nanami March 6th, 2015 10:19 PM

I fine cloning to be cheating and taking the fun out for it. I don't mind this myself since it makes them even more rare fun and that more rewarding if you find someone who has it and is willing to trade. Same for Amiibos. I like the hunting.

Howmander March 7th, 2015 12:55 AM

Well on top of getting and Arceus with it's 18 different forms (IE, with one of it's plates or 1 with no plate) this Arceus is ALSO no longer shiny locked! https://www.facebook.com/PokemonGlobalNews?fref=photo

Dedenne1 March 7th, 2015 8:58 AM

Sadly this is currently how GF is working now :/
Since japan is were theyre located and will stay in the future USA and other countries are bound to not receive as much as japan will get. Also they have the pokemon movies before us and in theaters plus events and such. Oh and movie posters, and limited collectibles, and entire shops for pokemon stuff. Exactly what do we have? Aha it really seems they get everything but idk move to japan one day for that purpose your life will be happier haha. I do wish that we had some of the cool things they have though. :/

kevin24 March 10th, 2015 7:38 AM

scumfreak favors japan and says screw everyone else./ hope one day scumtendo or scumfreak goes out of business. i'd be real happy

Oblox March 10th, 2015 7:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kevin24 (Post 8649666)
scumfreak favors japan and says screw everyone else./ hope one day scumtendo or scumfreak goes out of business. i'd be real happy

Slight overreaction. Its only a game.

Gligar March 10th, 2015 7:57 AM

I agree with all of you people but remember, the US ain't the only ones who should get these stuff.

Cyclone March 10th, 2015 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Howmander (Post 8643021)
to make everyone want them, really. Years ago when gen 3 was new, if someone got a shiny Metagross is was spectacular, amazing, people were envious because it looked so cool. Fast Forward to when ORAS was released 4 months ago and quite literally EVERYONE who owns the game can get a shiny metagross (or beldum, but eventually a metagross) and now they're pretty ho hum. Same thing would happen with the event legendaries. Something that is only given out at a movie release or a specific pokemon event in real life has people clamouring for it, trying to get their own, wanting it so badly because they can't have it. Would there be that level of excitement and desire if everyone who owned the game just automatically got an Arceus? When was the last time you heard anyone in the last 4 months asking for a Deoxys the way they used to? Not at all I would assume since everyone who owns ORAS gets a Deoxys.

I think you just described Nintendo's Amiibo strategy. "You can never have a Villager Amiibo because we don't plan to make any more." "But I want to train against it!"

Nintendo tries to create scarcity, sometimes in bad ways that actually hurt them by costing them money or giving someone else free claim to, say, $180.

Altairis March 11th, 2015 12:12 AM

It's just a bit frustrating, that's all. Of course the location where the game started off is going to get more events and bonuses - I don't think that we should get exactly the same treatment but at least some equality? For example, I'm pretty sure we've had an Arceus event somewhat recently but not Jirachi for a while. I don't know how practical it is to release a Wifi or serial code event to a certain area, though. Like... Pokemon's "main audience" is 10 year old boys or around that age but they're technically not allowed to join forums and some of them aren't technically savvy or know that they can break the rules and join :P Or where they would even go to find a Jirachi because when they search "How to get a Jirachi" on Google nothing comes up. So, the reason my brother has a Jirachi is because I was able to trade for it myself and not having events (even though us members can probably trade for it) kinda excludes a large group of people.

Pepperton March 12th, 2015 10:57 AM

Yeah, this is kind of sad but in reality that's what happens, not much we can really do about it as that's how they want to run their events.

xX Untouchable Xx March 12th, 2015 11:55 AM

I have PowerSaves anyway, so I think I'm fine...

Altairis March 12th, 2015 12:59 PM

Going to merge these two Arceus threads :D

Damaged_Dweeb1273 March 13th, 2015 9:39 PM

Tsk this is such a lowly argument...
PEOPLE! THINK! This is a PROMOTIONAL EVENT to PROMOTE THE MOVIE.
Does the movie being released in your country? No.
The sad fact is that most people are not in to Pokemon as we are. Nintendo is not gonna released something, pay up the taxes for international releases and fail, because after the Pokemon Movie 2000 demography gradually flopped.
They only dub the movies for DVD releases~
Exactly why they only released Shiny Genesect Event in Japan and Korea. So this Arceus is probably going to get released in Korea soon too.

Do you guys even know how much people in Japan actually pre-order the tickets to get these events?
Or even how many people in Japan don't miss the events? No.
Most people there are more into studying than playing, yes... Even sometimes missing events that lasts like 2-3 weeks or something.
It's comparatively small. I mean it's not hard to prove this since it is VERY RARE for a Japanese player to even be using Mythicals in Free Battle, and if they are, most is cheated since you will see them carrying an all shiny mythical pokemons, or just simply all rare mythical event poks. Yes, they also sell Japanese Powersaves, but hacking is not as gritty **** as hackings on other countries.
The PokeScrap Event campaign was set up for this to make it easier for people to get events from their shop rather than buying those Magazines.
You guys seem to have an ignorant notion that everyone that plays Pokemon in Japan lives in cities that sells CoroCoro Magazines, like Tokyo... Tsk... Look... I am not strongly against hacking since it's how a person uses the pokemon, it's not like I run away everytime I see a team full of shinnies. I just I don't appreciate them.

Besides... Does your country even take Pokemon seriously as much as Japan? No.
Businesses, Holidays AND landmark sites are promoted in Japan more so with Pokemon than any other country, this will explain exclusive pokemon with special moves like the elusive Shinkansen Extremespeed Pika, which I also legitimately own back when I was in Japan.*Have European and Japanese Console and games*
Other examples include the Airline which had one of their planes decorated its exterior with Pokemon, promoting their airline with a Fly Pikachu and also the very prominent Tanabata Jirachis every year.
The only business I remember doing an event with Pokemon outside Japan was that Australian Theme Park opening and gave Event Darkrai or Arceus, etc.
I mean it's easy enough to connect with them since their is a huge option tag in their official website if anyone is setting up an event they want a Pokemon Event to connect with.

If you guys want japanese events soooo much then buy the Japanese console/games versions. Do not even make the excuse of them being expensive. Yen have been commonly cheaper than dollars, so buying them, including shipment should be cheaper or with just a smidget of difference from one you buy off in your shop, from official sites or like eBAY. *Only looking at America for this one*
Most Japanese events are through shared codes, but you may have problem getting movie promoted serial downloads without Japanese connections etc. etc.~
HACKING ANYTHING IS WRONG AND UNLAWFUL. HACKING CAN NEVER BE JUSTIFIED, ESPECIALLY WHEN PEOPLE DO NOT LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE.
So if you guys want to blame anyone... Blame you country's population for not being in to Pokemon. Wait and be legit in playing A GAME not designed for anyone to hack and take advantage on.
People in Mii, *mostly* that hacks seem to like the feeling of being high and mighty, doing giveaway and asking for 500 follows*WTF?!*
Hacking never has done anything that actually lasts and just makes, most times, toxic people.

FirestormProdigy March 14th, 2015 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Volga (Post 8642060)
I have a friend that moved to japan for a job a few years ago, so he usually gets them and clones me one, so it's not a problem for me.

But I agree they should give out more events in the US, especially ones like these.

I personally think the reason is because Gamefreak hates how all the good hackers are here in the USA and since they have this Anti-Hacking crap going on it would make sense why these things arent available in the USA. Punishment maybe?

Hey guys Im updating this from my previous post to say that those of you who have powersaves they added a code for the Arceus event for the movie, It has the shiny form and all types on there.

Damaged_Dweeb1273 March 16th, 2015 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FirestormProdigy (Post 8655505)
I personally think the reason is because Gamefreak hates how all the good hackers are here in the USA and since they have this Anti-Hacking crap going on it would make sense why these things arent available in the USA. Punishment maybe?

Hey guys Im updating this from my previous post to say that those of you who have powersaves they added a code for the Arceus event for the movie, It has the shiny form and all types on there.

Datel is not from US, but UK... And codes for generators stems from Datel selling them PowerSaves, Action Replay, etc.~
Generator makers/coders are actually ripping off Datel's work... And Datel is ripping off Pokemon by hacking it in the first place... See how messed up what people follow these days?

Tsk... That shiny Arceus I just finished SR'ed 2-3 days ago for about 3-4 days your gonna have all perfect... Wow... I am not strongly against it... But just wow... I guess...

FirestormProdigy March 17th, 2015 2:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Damaged_Dweeb1273 (Post 8658525)
Datel is not from US, but UK... And codes for generators stems from Datel selling them PowerSaves, Action Replay, etc.~
Generator makers/coders are actually ripping off Datel's work... And Datel is ripping off Pokemon by hacking it in the first place... See how messed up what people follow these days?

Tsk... That shiny Arceus I just finished SR'ed 2-3 days ago for about 3-4 days your gonna have all perfect... Wow... I am not strongly against it... But just wow... I guess...

Nintendo and Gamefreak are multi-billion dollar companies they dont need to make more money. Not to mention what does it matter if I like to cheat in my game? What harm is it doing them? They are making the money off games and systems so why cant I have the freedom to do what I want with my game and save? Its like we are renting the game from them, They say okay we will make this game for you and you can buy it and own it but we wont let you do anything with it but play the storyline, if you do anything we dont like we will brick your system so you cant play anymore. Thats controlling and not fair.

To your other comment I would believe you that you soft resetted If you could actually obtain Arceus in X/Y and ORAS but the fact that you cant tells me something else. The movie event Arceus hasnt been released yet not even in Japan as far as I know.


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