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Hacking a software is illegal but for games it doesnt apply as of yet. Anyway it's a simple question of morals. Would you actually want a game you designed be hacked and have people make money from it, while you the creator don't? And Arceus Japan event has been released about for about a week now. You can get Arceus in XY/ORAS if you have japanese console and game and the serial code for buying the ticket. I am English/Japanese. As I currently live in UK, I gain the code by my Uncle who lives with my cousin in Japan. My cousin used his own ticket's code and I used my uncle's ticket code. |
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In eBay people sell pokemon... There is even a website dedicated just in selling pokemon for real life money~
Besides Nintendo filed a lawsuit to Datel, just before B/W2 I think it was... They only failed since they couldn't prove if a pokemon is really cheated or not *legit or legal* since the security of pokemon they implemented failed them. But since they know now that Mythicals are being renamed into vulgar things in Wi-Fi when shouldn't be, they should or will probably file a lawsuit for abusing online uses through GTS. If a player instead just wait for powersave... Lets say in Japan... They are not much into hacking but if they are... Do you think much will go to the cinema or just wait for the DVD? Besides a pre-ordered ticket is alot more expensive than buying a regular ticket and Im pretty sure they will lose money that way. Well yeh flashcarts, and whatnot~ ROM hacks... Creators of them rarely want money in return. |
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There's another important point though: hacking into games isn't the same as hacking into software. You're changing bytes but you're only injecting code that gives you Pokemon or extra lives, not injecting a virus that wipes your hard drive and gets your bank account information. The two are very different, and have very different goals. Besides there's a point you're missing: if hacking video games becomes illegal there goes all your mods. Modding a game is hacking it, since you're going in there and changing how the game originally worked, so you'd be making mods illegal for every game out there. But with that said, gosh darn it Japan. Why can't we get a shiny Arceus? ; ; |
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Just for argument sakes, there is one way that Powersaves can actually cause Game Freak to lose money. When someone gets a hold of a event pokemon and makes multiple copies of it just to hand it out to the public, this can cause Game Freak to lose money. There are people out there that will buy a movie just to get the event pokemon that comes with it. When they no longer have to do this because they can get it for free, Game Freak loses money. So in a sense, cloning event pokemon that only comes out via money can cause Game Freak to loses money. Now, the issue here is the fact that Game Freak already gives out free event pokemon without requiring you to buy a thing. So, Game Freak in a way has no reason to complain if they want to give things away for free but also charge for specific events. At that point, Game Freak is being a hypocrite to their own logic.
Basically, as long as its not a pokemon that you technically have to pay for to get, its really not causing Game Freak to lose money when you use Power Saves. Its only when these "pay to get" pokemon are cloned is when Game Freak loses money. Fire is right though, Powersaves and hacking in general do not affect Game Freak's sales of the game itself. Neither do these sites that offer specific pokemon for money. These sites do not provide a service that you don't already have available to you when you buy the game. So, its not really costing Game Freak any money when people sell pokemon. |
I know it's unfair, but hahaha Pokémon originated from Japan afteall. So aint gonna get mad on that. :P
My concern on the other hand is Pokémon might end up including microtransection stuff in their future games. They can easily do this to the trainer customizations, event legendaries, rare items, etc. |
That wont solve the problem to be honest. People will still just get the event/rare items, clone a ton of them and give them out for free. So really doing microtransactions is not much different than putting a code in a movie so that you can only get the pokemon by buying the movie. You might just get a group of people that will go and share the payment of the event poke/item. Say its $10, 3 people will pay $3.33 each to get the poke, then clone it and hand it out to their friends. So it just doesn't solve the issue really. The only way to solve the issue is to find a way to distinguish the hacked pokemon from the real one and Powersaves in general isn't making the pokemon from nothing. Powersaves is only taking the pokemon as a base platform and editing it to be exactly what you want it to be, so even if they found a way to distinguish hacked from non-hacked it wouldn't work on powersaves. Its essential a legal version of the pokemon, just with the IV/EVs/Nature values changed to what you want.
EDIT: Oh, and even if Game Freak was able to do something to tell when a pokemon was edited, that doesn't solve the entire problem. Yes, cloned pokes wouldn't be allowed in battles but that doesn't mean its hard to get any breedable pokemon that you want. You grab a ditto, make it 6 IV, grab the pokemon you want, make it 6 IV then the nature you want and then turn on fast hatch and breed the two. With in 15 minutes you will have at least a 5 IV version of the pokemon you want. The only thing that this would solve outside of cloning is having the exact Hidden Power you want. Honestly though, you take maybe 15 minutes and get the Garchomp you couldn't use back? How does this solve anything really? |
Well... I did clarify that software hacking IS NOT like rom hacking. And for the eBay pokemon sellers, I wasn't talking about plushie or t-shirt sellers. I was talking about the real pokemon*IN-GAME POKEMON* sellers out there, Besides anyone selling merchandise with Pokemon anywhere in there name shouldn't even be done at all.*ahem... Trademark anyone?* Well unless they are actually legitimately sold by the company. Even advertising or showing logos of any sort is not allowed but still happens. You might know this from the way logos of some sort are blurred during broadcast, or even if watching reality shows, labels are ripped off. So really, if a person tries to sell something linked to Pokemon, proper procedures is that they are supposed to contact them first and whatnot and get a deal. Yes, they may not have been the one who designed a plushie *for example* but the influence of them as being pokemon is what makes people buy them and get their money from that. So Nintendo/GameFreak is really entitled to a fraction of the money gained from those in-game-pokemon sold in eBay,
Well I can't really argue with anything from ROM hacks since I do not play them nor have tried them, therefore I didn't mention anything about them. But I was arguing mostly about how people here, in this thread seems to moan about how Japan 'gets all the cool stuff' which was answered in my first post. CAN YOU GUYS ACTUALLY READ MY FIRST POST? *2nd Page* If you had read my first post. I did say I wasn't strongly against them. My argument only evolved how Pokemon is being sold in various websites and whatnot without Nintendo/GameFreak even getting a cent back. Well PowerSave is ripping off GameFreak, and ok... AND NINTENDO. They are altering them. They get a base copy of it and changes/alters it to their own taste of what IV/Nature/Characteristics. So hence you are modifying what was on the game itself. Plus even on the old games like for example, in D/P/Pt, powersave/action replay was used to alter the game play, by reintroducing events/event items that are not released *Azure Flute* or past their event dates set up by GF itself. If Azure Flute event was not even released and been 'locked' in the in-game item catalogue then I would think that's hacking don't you think so? Plus making unreleased event pokemon appear in the wild in levels I am pretty sure is no where than they would be released at. Besides your argument on how using PowerSave/Action Replay is not hacking is stupid since they have advertised themselves as a hacking tool before. |
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Well... Cartoon Network only plays the DVD, and for the DVD to be made, it has to be English dubbed, and a movie shown in a cinema is always only made a DVD a couple of week to months after. Also Cartoon Network has to pay fee/tax for every time it shows a movie as a premier, this goes for any movies too on any channel. And also for a movie to be premiered on any channel, it is like an unspoken/unwritten rule that they would only allow so weeks/months after the DVD release to also make sure that the premier on a channel does not affect demography sales.
And even though the number of people is comparatively small in ratio to those that do not pre-order the ticket just for the Pokemon in Japan, they may also see it as being ripped off... But I do agree that they should re-release the events much like so the coming copycat Japanese event of the Shiny Charizard for Germany, maybe weeks/months after the original from Japan. But then I also believe the idea from one of the people here saying that it's maybe Japan punishing other countries for excessive use of hacking and whatnot. |
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Yeah... It always seems like they get the events first (If we get it at all!)
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For a person to legally in all laws be able to supply a derivative work, in this example, Pokemon, they have to make aesthetical changes from the original work, only then could it be claimed as a secondary 'unrelated' derivative work. For example, a merchandise seller in eBay selling Rayquaza themed bags, shirts, etc. can only be accounted as derivative if its not anything GameFreak/Nintendo had ever assigned it to be. So a two-headed Rayquaza t-shirt will suffice more in all manners of the law, or at least by making the colour palette neither green/black. An example of proper derivative websites is DeviantArt. People who make real money other than points from linking, etc. art have their own originality imbued in their work, especially when adapting works with Trademark. They commonly do so by adapting themes to them, gothic, real-life, gore, etc. they will add in teeth, fur/hair, or a few individualistic minor details to their work that encompasses the chosen theme, making it bear some least originality from the source. And to those making art bearing near/complete resemblance to the original works is not out there making money but are just seeking credit for their skills. A fan service by fellow fans. Well, if they are... They should be penalised or something... To sum things up... I will only always be rooting for a two-headed Rayquaza anytime in eBay/Amazon, etc. Just because police will not always barge in the door of someone doing illegal things, it doesn't give them any right to keep doing it. That's just like having an ignorant notion that there should be a police for everyone, as an effective law-abiding persecuting guardian *angel*. Applying magniloquent big technical words doesn't automatically win an argument if your unsure how/when/where to apply it. |
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