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Emboar June 9th, 2015 8:26 PM

231.

Discussion?!

machomuu June 9th, 2015 8:28 PM

Hm...I see.

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Well, whatever that is, it wasn't happening here. I was just squealing and that about made up the conversation.

So...uh...here's a touching Touhou vid.


Twilight-kun June 10th, 2015 2:50 AM

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You broke the forum, Macho

Yukari June 10th, 2015 4:57 AM

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Discussion?

There is no such bullshit.

Pokestick, good times. June 10th, 2015 5:06 AM

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It appears Persona 4 has not been released on the PS3 in Europe. Bit odd.

Twilight-kun June 10th, 2015 5:23 AM

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Why am I not surprsied

Yukari June 10th, 2015 6:01 AM

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I know I'm not surprised.

donavannj June 10th, 2015 6:09 AM

247. Well, yeah. The original Persona 4 was released for PS2. Persona 4 Golden was a Vita release.

Twilight-kun June 10th, 2015 6:14 AM

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Whoa, slow down

Abby June 10th, 2015 6:29 AM

239.
Do the mods not exist?

machomuu June 10th, 2015 6:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donavannj (Post 8791713)
240. Well, yeah. The original Persona 4 was released for PS2. Persona 4 Golden was a Vita release.

Poki's referring to the PS2 Classic, PS2 games you can buy on the PS3.

Twilight-kun June 10th, 2015 7:04 AM

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The mods exist; they just sometimes don't post 0 because they're nice

donavannj June 10th, 2015 7:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machomuu (Post 8791756)
Poki's referring to the PS2 Classic, PS2 games you can buy on the PS3.

Wait that's available on the PS Store in the USA? If I had known that, I wouldn't have gotten... wait, I didn't have a PS3 when I got my physical copy. Never mind.

242.

Yukari June 10th, 2015 8:02 AM

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Yeah it is. c:

machomuu June 10th, 2015 8:02 AM

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Yeah, Personas 2 (Eternal Punishment) though 4 are all on the PS Store for the PS3. Going another way, save for Persona Q, every single Persona game is on the Playstation Store in some form.

Yukari June 10th, 2015 8:07 AM

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Which is pretty awesome imo.

donavannj June 10th, 2015 8:20 AM

246. Huh. Maybe it's time to expand my Persona collection a bit further.

Twilight-kun June 10th, 2015 8:30 AM

247

Never played it
Don't really want to

machomuu June 10th, 2015 8:31 AM

It is.

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That said, fuck The Answer. A word to any of you even thinking about playing Persona 3 FES solely for that.

I mentioned sometime earlier, and I quote, "FUCK THE ANSWER". That remains the case. I'd finished Persona 3 after buckling down some number of years later, surprisingly ended up liking it by the end (stated here):
Spoiler:
So...just finished Persona 3 (Portable, specifically). Thoughts (Mostly a fusion of two copypastas since the places they were originally posted in didn't really have people who played Persona with edits):

I feel like the female has the better SLs (though I was sad when I found out Yuko wasn't an SL in this one). Shame the female protag is so underrated. The more I played this, the more I realized that she would have been a great pick for the movies. Especially mine, who was sexually devious lesbian that ogled and gushed about girls with guys, got intentionally touchy-feely whenever possible, would make suggestive comments on the reg, never really got what she wanted (because the game doesn't support female-female romantic relationships, unfortunately). Ah, I'll miss playing as her, she was fun. But even apart from mine, I like her design more than aaaaangst Makoto/Minato's (props to the movie, by the way, because they really did a good job making him a likable character).

Tartarus, though...I feel the same about that as I did when I was playing FES. It's no wonder I didn't like the game for the longest time, it prided itself on a not-so-well implemented feature that already generally isn't liked. I had to make it interesting this time around so I wouldn't bore myself to death. It was good deal of what stopped my FES journey, as well as generally not caring about what was going on. The solo-squading and the mostly-Orpheus only in Portable also played a huge part in making Tartarus less than tedious because, due to how EXP works, I always felt like I was making progress. Made things fun, and leveling everyone in the endgame was fun, too, since they soared in levels. That said...no other Persona or even any Shin Megami Tensei game's on level with the amount of grind in P3, and I can't really say that that's gotten better. So still tedious, but less so.

Other than that, the story's...good. It and the characters don't really become interesting until...well, until the name Chidori enters the picture. That's when I started to like Junpei (and by the end, I ended up liking all of the main characters, and I enjoyed pretty much all of the SL characters). Really, I think that's the game's biggest fault, though. It doesn't really pick up character or story-wise until later on, two or three dozens of hours in, and that's a long time to be stringing a player on before they get to the good stuff, and that's why I stopped playing my FES file (which was 30-something hours in). I still definitely wouldn't put the characters or the story (which is darker, but I don't know if I'd call it better or more engaging) anywhere near Persona 4, and certainly not the gameplay. But it was a fun experience that, surprisingly, I don't regret despite getting to supposedly 65 hours. I, unfortunately, knew about the ending beforehand, but I still enjoyed the execution and didn't know exactly how it played out other than minor details. Now I can go on and finish Persona 4 Arena Ultimax :q.


Followed by this eloquent and formal statement on The Answer:
Spoiler:
FUCK THE ANSWER. I'm not playing it. FUUUUUUUCK it.

It's cool that it's a continuation of the story and all and I get to see the characters again (all of which I liked by the end), but...God...

So, first off, I'm just gonna lay it out: It's one giant-ass dungeon and everyone starts at level 25 with skills they didn't have at the end of the Journey. That second thing I can forgive, but the first is just...UUUUUGH. Apparently it only has bits and pieces of story sprinkled in. Supposedly important stuff but fuck that shit, I might just watch it.

The problem with this is that, apart from adding supposedly 30 hours, it defaults to hard mode which, apparently, only makes you miss more and the enemies take less damage/you take more damage- not really my type of Hard mode, it just artificially makes the game longer.

Plus, the Shuffle time is pretty alien to me because the Hard mode does some sneaky shit (or maybe it's end game stuff, idunno) and it made me realize that the Shuffle Time in Persona 3 Portable is actually the much less fucky Shuffle Time from Persona 4 (vanilla with Minor arcanas mixed in, since the Golden one was very different). So I can't even get new personas to fuse with my starting one so me and my party don't keep dying on the first two floors, they play the damn Mass Destruction Remix, and-

...Nope, nope. Ain't fun, and apparently people say it's just a long-ass grind, probably filled with frustration. I love a challenge, but this is more artificial/superficial than true difficulty and I'll just end up reading the story on the wiki or *shudder* watching it on the Youtub.


And I did (the latter, specifically). Was it worth it? Eh...Um...well...kinda. It adds...some story stuff, but...you'd really just be better watching it than playing it, because it is the grind above grinds. And Yukari. Wow.

I'd just recommend either playing FES for the cutscenes or playing Portable for everything else (better music, Social Links, better overall gameplay, and of course, the better protag, assuming you play as the girl).

Yukari June 10th, 2015 8:38 AM

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Well if you don't want to play them that's cool.

machomuu June 10th, 2015 8:43 AM

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"Them"? What are you talking about? I'm solely referring to The Answer and how it's actually the spawn of Satan, whereas this is Persona and it should be the one spawning Satan.

Yukari June 10th, 2015 8:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by machomuu (Post 8791912)
251

"Them"? What are you talking about? I'm solely referring to The Answer and how it's actually the spawn of Satan, whereas this is Persona and it should be the one spawning Satan.

I was referring to twilight's post. This one, to be specific.

machomuu June 10th, 2015 8:56 AM

Oh, didn't see that, internet was acting up.

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Honestly, Twilight, I don't see why you wouldn't like Shin Megami Tensei, it's like the Pokemon before Pokemon. But better.

Don't see why you wouldn't want to get into that.

Pokestick, good times. June 10th, 2015 8:59 AM

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Got myself some games that ARE available instead.
Bayonetta, Red Dead Redemption, Atelier Escha & Logy, and Ni No Kuni.

Surely, among these, at least one has got to be good.

Yukari June 10th, 2015 8:59 AM

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I don't either to be entirely honest. :c

EDIT: Red Dead Redemption is pretty fantastic.


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