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Leviathan June 28th, 2015 2:56 PM

Windows explorer seems to want to do it's own thing, in my experience.

Sadly my own problems seem to be persisting...Guess I'm gonna have to turn towards a Windows 8 forum for some insight into this mysterious behavior. I really hope it's not a router issue. Specifically, a DNS problem, as that can also afflict my game consoles and Skype seems to work since the ports are set aside for it on the router itself. It's one quagmire I'd like to stay well away from if it all possible.

Megan June 29th, 2015 12:32 PM

Anybody hear who tested W10 and who can tell me how well Virtual Desktops work in it, so far? I'm playing around with said feature on W7 and it's not nearly as good as it could be (not even close to what Linux has to offer). Granted, they didn't include it as a feature, which is why I have to use a tool that "unlocks" it, so I shouldn't complain about it too much. But I'm curious as to how they managed to work that feature out.

Tsutarja June 29th, 2015 1:58 PM

I haven't even played with Windows 10 yet, and I probably should. Not sure yet if I should install it on a test laptop or in a virtual machine, though.

Frequency June 29th, 2015 3:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsutarja (Post 8822346)
I haven't even played with Windows 10 yet, and I probably should. Not sure yet if I should install it on a test laptop or in a virtual machine, though.

I'd VM it, myself.

I've been trying to Dual Boot it but "LMAO NO MBR BOOT OPTION FOR YOU AND YOU DON'T SUPPORT GPT"

Legendary Silke June 30th, 2015 2:11 AM

*sigh*

If only there was something that ran Windows, has a Core M processor, doesn't exceed 11", is a real tablet and not a laptop that happens to be able to twist all the way, fan-less,1080p or better display, and has pen support.

Closest things are the Microsoft Surface 3 (doesn't have Core M, pricier) and Acer Aspire Switch 12 (12.5"!, heavier). If I had to pick between these two, what would you pick?

Tsutarja June 30th, 2015 3:26 AM

Honestly, I'd want a Surface. I had been wanting one for what seems like eons now. As always though, they're way out of my price range. :P

Legendary Silke June 30th, 2015 4:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsutarja (Post 8823053)
Honestly, I'd want a Surface. I had been wanting one for what seems like eons now. As always though, they're way out of my price range. :P

These add-ons always cost money.

Other OEMs aren't quite making a complete equivalent, though.

Centipede Chan June 30th, 2015 4:53 PM

I just installed the windows 10 preview thingy today. Loving it so far. My only small issue is some games had their resolution settings reset, which is an easy fix.

Tsutarja June 30th, 2015 5:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDDchu (Post 8824001)
I just installed the windows 10 preview thingy today. Loving it so far. My only small issue is some games had their resolution settings reset, which is an easy fix.

Did you install it in a VM or over Windows 7/8 as a physical install? Just wondering. :3

Centipede Chan June 30th, 2015 5:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsutarja (Post 8824017)
Did you install it in a VM or over Windows 7/8 as a physical install? Just wondering. :3

Installed over my Windows 8.1 because I was convinced enough to get it.

Legendary Silke June 30th, 2015 9:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8824145)
You should have waited. While testers do get their copies when it goes final release, you'll have to keep updating (Including the newest of features, even if it potentially breaks stuff) to keep your license, whereas with 8 you can just install it through Windows Update and you can later on opt out of updates.

He installed it over 8.1, so things should work like the normal release once the final build rolls out.

Legendary Silke July 1st, 2015 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8824379)
Nope: http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/22/windows-10-licensing-explained-beta/

Basically, any Windows 10 installations right now are considered test copies and are subject to these rules, so you'll have to continue being MS' guinea pig. If you install the final when it's out on the 29th (Through Windows Update for 7/8/8.1 users or a disc purchased at a store or a downloaded ISO with accompanying product key), you'll be considered a regular consumer and won't have such restrictions.

This should make my point clearer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe Aul
“I want to opt out of the Windows Insider Program on 7/29.” If you decide to opt-out of the program and upgrade to the 7/29 build you will be subject to exactly the same terms and conditions that govern the offer* that was extended to all Genuine Windows 7 and 8.1 customers. This is not a path to attain a license for Windows XP or Windows Vista systems. If your system upgraded from a Genuine Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 license it will remain activated, but if not, you will be required to roll back to your previous OS version or acquire a new Windows 10 license. If you do not roll back or acquire a new license the build will eventually expire.

If he is indeed installing 10 over 8.1 and not as a clean install, once he arrives at the RTM build, he is free to do as he please with the OS.

Blu·Ray July 2nd, 2015 1:27 AM

And even if it was a clean install, if the computer had 8 preinstalled the license would be tied to the motherboard and would still be valid for 8. I don't know if that will carry over to 10 or if one would have to reinstall 8 and then 10 over that, but in any case, the license would not be lost.

Tsutarja July 3rd, 2015 2:05 PM

Today I loaded Cyanogenmod 12 onto my Nexus 7 2013 model. I hope that the auto-rotate not working is just a fluke in the stock Google ROM, but I also wanted to try CM for the heck of it as well.

Tsutarja July 3rd, 2015 4:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8827984)
Definitely get Xposed installed, you won't regret it. I did that with my Nexus 7 2012 and it's just fantastic.

What exactly is Xposed?

Also, for some reason, the device goes offline in adb after it boots up. Any way to fix that?

Tsutarja July 3rd, 2015 4:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8828033)
I explained some of it here, you can also read up on the official site. Basically it's an addon framework that integrates modifications during runtime so you can play around with stuff on your device without having to edit APK files.

Hmm, interesting! I'll give it a look sometime, although I was just mainly looking forward to getting away from Google's stock ROMs for Lollipop.

Do you at least know about my case with adb though, and why the device goes offline with Cyanogenmod?

Tsutarja July 3rd, 2015 5:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8828055)
As for ADB, I had a ton of issues with it on my computer. I know that if you go "adb devices", it may be listed there, and you may just have to use adb along with the device ID if it's shown there. Let me pop on my tablet here and I'll take a peek at the settings and see what you can play with.

This is what I see on my end whenever I idle the device while plugged in, and USB debugging is enabled, too.

http://puu.sh/iMtR3/ca23ae69e3.png

Tsutarja July 3rd, 2015 5:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8828069)
Another thing I'd look at is how old your version of the SDK is. If adb is outdated, it may not play nicely, or at all, with newer Android versions. I had the same issue when I tried pulling files from my Alcatel one time, I had some older versions for ICS that didn't work nicely with JB.

The thing is, I'm pretty sure it's up to date, because I literally downloaded everything, including the SDK all just today.

Tsutarja July 3rd, 2015 5:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8828084)
At this point, I'd probably check on stackoverflow or perhaps XDA's Nexus 7 section. Those are usually things that should get it working, it's strange that it isn't.

It worked flawlessly when I had the stock ROM though, so it has to be something with Cyanogenmod. I'll look around on XDA for sure though!

Frequency July 4th, 2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsutarja (Post 8828085)
It worked flawlessly when I had the stock ROM though, so it has to be something with Cyanogenmod. I'll look around on XDA for sure though!

I've had a bit more luck running things with mfastboot commands from the device's bootloader. This can depend on your device of course, and of course your ROM (I'm Carbon ROM so I guess there's something????), but it's worth looking into depending on your needs.

Tsutarja July 4th, 2015 8:42 PM

I'm honestly not ready for Windows 10 yet. I'd still have to test it out myself before I even consider upgrading, plus I kinda have the fear that there might be this huge bug in the operating system that could affect my computer greatly.

Tsutarja July 4th, 2015 8:59 PM

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Originally Posted by flight (Post 8829595)
idk if I'd have to have a product key to get into Win 10 or not, but if I do, then there's really not much I can do once it arrives by the end of July or so. x_x; I've been trying to see if I can buy a new laptop with win 8.1 before then, just so I can get the free upgrade to 10 and whatnot.

Even if you run Windows 7, you should still be able to have a reserved copy of Windows 10, which is tied to an email address you provide.

Tsutarja July 4th, 2015 9:09 PM

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Originally Posted by flight (Post 8829615)
We'll see. I'm honestly not too confident, though. Been meaning to get a new laptop anyway since mine is pretty shit at this point lol, this is is just all the more reason to do so.

Out of curiosity, how old is your current laptop?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8829617)
Over the next few weeks, Fast Ring users will be getting a plethora of updates leading up to the RTM build on the 29th. From my uses, the OS seems relatively stable. Most of the UI is finalized, but who knows what else will be added. It also seems that the testers will be getting builds first, then it'll be slowly rolled out to other users. I should get around to backing up my files and whatnot, and empty my hard drive of what I can, as I intend to do a clean installation. Here's hoping it goes well.

Hmm, I see. If anything, I guess I could just use a dump laptop of mine and test out Windows 10 (which is available through DreamSpark if I'm not available to get it via download from Microsoft).

Tsutarja July 5th, 2015 5:14 PM

Did I ever mention that I still have problems with my tablet's auto-rotate becoming dysfunctional after awhile? Yeah, I'm starting to the think that the accelerometer is shot.

Tsutarja July 5th, 2015 5:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8830982)
Ouch. Too bad Android doesn't have an option to manually set the rotation. Might be a mod for it somewhere though.

Oh I know there are apps for it, but that's just the laziness in me for not downloading them.

Also, still no answer on XDA about my adb issue. :/ meh

Tsutarja July 5th, 2015 6:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8831090)
So I just set up a Skype To Go number, but it had the wrong province area code, so I updated it. I then got ###-666-0184 as my Skype To Go number. I'm not making this up.

I'm swell with my Google voice number, to be honest. :P At least I don't have to pay for usage of it, but it also allows for me to send SMS, MMS (via Hangouts), and make free calls to the US/Canada at no cost, so long as I have an active internet connection.

Tsutarja July 5th, 2015 6:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8831100)
I don't know if that's available in Canada or not, but it'd be nice to have.

Yeah I'm not sure either D:

How much does it cost to have a number through Skype? Last I checked, you have to have Skype credit (or Skype Premium) to have a number through them.

Legendary Silke July 6th, 2015 6:26 AM

*is having severe Internet speed issues*

It makes things feel like almost-dialup...

Tsutarja July 7th, 2015 1:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8832147)
*is having severe Internet speed issues*

It makes things feel like almost-dialup...

:/ that must suck

Also, did I fail to mention how efficient Cyanogenmod is on my tablet's battery?

Legendary Silke July 7th, 2015 1:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsutarja (Post 8834321)
:/ that must suck

Also, did I fail to mention how efficient Cyanogenmod is on my tablet's battery?

Yeah, I hate it. It's been weeks.

Good for you! I've heard that most OEM's firmware tend to be less-than-ideal when it comes to battery life.

Sometimes I still wonder if getting a Surface 3 is the right move, to be honest. I think I might end up in a situation where an Atom x7 won't cut it; on the other hand, the fans in the Surface Pro 3 is a big no-no for tablet use.

And then there's the Acer Aspire Switch 12 and Asus Transformer T300 Chi, but they're much larger than a Surface 3, though you get a lot more computer for every $.

If only tech purchases were as easy!

On another topic, I've been using my dad's laptop just for kicks. It's surprisingly nice. (No, neither my laptop or my tablet are broken.)

Tsutarja July 7th, 2015 2:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8834349)
If only tech purchases were as easy!

That's pretty much the statement of my life right there. :P

Legendary Silke July 7th, 2015 3:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsutarja (Post 8834359)
That's pretty much the statement of my life right there. :P

Then again, if it were that easy in the first place, where is the fun, then, in getting the right equipment and/or parts?

Tsutarja July 8th, 2015 6:07 PM

"Computers don't bite!" -Team Fail

Thanks for the reminder, dude :P

Legendary Silke July 8th, 2015 9:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsutarja (Post 8837629)
"Computers don't bite!" -Team Fail

Thanks for the reminder, dude :P

Someday they'll make computers that do bite.

Wicked3DS July 9th, 2015 5:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8837953)
Someday they'll make computers that do bite.

They'll just be laptops with fangs.

Legendary Silke July 9th, 2015 9:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quajutsu (Post 8839032)
They'll just be laptops with fangs.

I now want a laptop that looks like a Noivern. :P

Morkula July 10th, 2015 9:54 PM

I'm still on Windows 7 and I don't really see the need to upgrade until 10 starts offering things that aren't available on 7 (improved game performance, etc.). Everything I've seen of 10 is ugly as hell and plus I don't like the whole "Windows as a service" model they're transitioning to. I'm sure I'll probably have to upgrade eventually, but I'm delaying it as much as possible.

That won't stop me from making a test install though.

Legendary Silke July 11th, 2015 6:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morkula (Post 8840742)
I'm still on Windows 7 and I don't really see the need to upgrade until 10 starts offering things that aren't available on 7 (improved game performance, etc.). Everything I've seen of 10 is ugly as hell and plus I don't like the whole "Windows as a service" model they're transitioning to. I'm sure I'll probably have to upgrade eventually, but I'm delaying it as much as possible.

That won't stop me from making a test install though.

Mmm hmm. At the very least, you probably shouldn't upgrade the OS as soon as it comes out. You never know what kind of issues you might run into early on! It's probably a good idea to wait it out for a month at least. Then again, seeing as the initial roll-out will be for Windows Insiders, it might be less of a problem than we have thought. Basically, the beta testers are beta-testing the OS when it RTMs. It's a bit of a weird software lifecycle, though.

It's highly unlikely that Windows will be offered as a subscription, anyway, despite what some ill-informed writers might want you to believe. If you guys were referring to the financial reports, that's just standard practice when you're doing that kind of offer - all that has to go somewhere, to be honest. It's likely that the licences will be similar to an "OEM" licence, just like the kind we do have right now. And Microsoft is actually pretty lenient on what you do with these licences, too - if it's a desktop computer, if you ever change the hardware enough that you need reactivation, just perform activation over the phone, and speak to someone if need be.

And, it never hurts to reserve. You aren't forced to get it when it arrives, anyway. But yeah, better to be safe than sorry (though Windows 10 should provide a way to roll back to the previous OS if you didn't clean install/Reset it first.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8840745)
I think, if you have an existing Windows 7/8 install, you won't have to pay a dime to update and won't ever have to pay, from what I can tell. But yeah, I intend to keep my Windows 8 recovery partition so if it's not working well with my laptop I can downgrade and reinstall.

Yeah. Though I think they aren't offering an upgrade to a "retail" key this time around and probably they'll act more like "OEM" keys once you upgrade.

Personally I think I probably won't bother doing much with the recovery partition and I'll be likely to continue using IE11 for a short while, even on Windows 10, if only to wait for Edge bugs to get rid of. It's still a bit messy right now.

Legendary Silke July 11th, 2015 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8841434)
Yeah. I heard this particular laptop has issues installing vanilla versions of Windows because of driver issues, so keeping the recovery partition is a good idea in case Windows 10 gets borked somehow and keeps it from installing properly. I may also make a recovery disc in case something happens.

Actually, modern versions of Windows should automatically roll back to your previous OS install if anything goes wrong, at least if Windows 8.1's setup is of any indication. But, still, better safe than sorry. (That's the beauty of moving everything relevant to Windows.old.)

Tsutarja July 12th, 2015 7:42 PM

Speaking of random laptop issues, it seems that my old HP laptop has something wrong with it. I got the Windows 10 preview onto it, but now it seems to freeze at random. It started yesterday when I tried to go defrag the machine. Hmm....

Wicked3DS July 12th, 2015 8:09 PM

I'm trying to figure out why my new laptop that I just bought at the end of March isn't getting the option to upgrade to Windows 10.

Legendary Silke July 12th, 2015 8:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8843830)
Are you fully up to date? There's an update that adds the offer to your computer. Use Windows Update and make sure you have it installed. I'll check the update number you need. What version of Windows are you running? 7 or 8.1?

Edit: It's update KB3035583, and it seems to be the same number for both versions of Windows. Check if it's installed, and if not, update until it is. Then, you'll have a Windows logo in the system tray and you should be able to reserve your copy there.

Bingo.

So I've been crunching the numbers and I've realized that for the price of a fully decked-out Surface 3 (4 GB RAM, 128 GB storage, pen, cover, and screen protector), I could get a reasonably decent gaming rig - the kind that comes with an i5 and a GTX 960 or better.

Decisions are hard.

Tsutarja July 12th, 2015 9:11 PM

I'm all about portability, but honestly, a gaming rig would win over a Surface for me in that case.

Legendary Silke July 13th, 2015 5:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsutarja (Post 8843914)
I'm all about portability, but honestly, a gaming rig would win over a Surface for me in that case.

Why not both?

Though an AMD build is probably going to be sub-optimal, efficiency-wise.

And I still have this laptop, but the allure of a proper desktop to call my own is great.

Tsutarja July 13th, 2015 6:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8844337)
Why not both?

Cost, my friend. Cost.

Legendary Silke July 13th, 2015 6:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsutarja (Post 8844367)
Cost, my friend. Cost.

Hey, I mean that since a maxxed Surface 3 costs so much, maybe I can divide it up...

But wait, I'd end up with two less-than-ideal PCs. Yikes!

Legendary Silke July 13th, 2015 9:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8844571)
This would be my ultimate reasoning as to go with the desktop. Tablets simply cannot compare. While you do axe the portability of a tablet, you more than make up for in power. I'm considering getting a desktop soon, but with my laptop starting to act funny, I may have to get a new laptop first.

Mmm hmm. My laptop isn't the most portable thing, though. But on the other hand, I think I might be able to squeeze a few more months of life out of my tablet, but it is really slow now.

I'm thinking of building a rig that has the same, or similar components, if I were to get a desktop. (That's me on PC Part Picker, by the way.)

Tsutarja July 13th, 2015 2:11 PM

For me, my current laptop is fairly ideal, although the setup I'm using it in right now is not ideal. Reason why? Who would want a laptop being used as a desktop? I'm only using it in such a manner to feel comfortable to myself.

Meganium July 15th, 2015 10:12 AM

It's going to cost me at least $900 to build a desktop with the components I want.

I might consider taking out another credit card. I just wanna play PC games dang it. xD

Tsutarja July 15th, 2015 5:11 PM

Sometimes I wish all institutions provided students with laptops and/or tablets, especially so that we wouldn't have to use our own devices for school purposes.

Centipede Chan July 15th, 2015 6:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8848155)
I'd rather use my own anyway because the ones given by schools probably can't be upgraded or anything.

I hear most school given computers have a lot of rules of what you can install and/or do with them. Which kinda sucks. But meh I am not at that level of education where I need a computer nearly everything.

Legendary Silke July 16th, 2015 8:24 AM

It's funny...

I'm actually considering an AMD-based platform this time around, even though the graphics card is still going to be an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 900 series part. Mostly because of the existence of the Athlon X4 860K, which appears to be more than fast enough and cheap enough, especially after factoring in the cost of a non-bare-minimum motherboard and accompanying memory modules.

Now if only all AMD CPUs are good. (The other good one is the A8-7600, but since I'm going with a separate graphics card, it's too expensive for the performance I'd get.)

Personally I find maximizing the amount of graphics card performance is more important for a normal gaming PC, to be honest - I don't really need all the CPU when I'm getting bottlenecked by the graphics card anyway, right? Besides, the Pentium G3258 is aging poorly due to the lack of threads overall for PC gaming, and sometimes, even a sheer IPC and clock speed advantage can't beat additional threads. Going up to the i3 would mean losing the price war, and it's not likely that the CPU is going to operate on full throttle all the time.

Centipede Chan July 16th, 2015 10:17 AM

Sorry to derail, but this is exciting. We replaced Comcast with Verizon today, and my download speeds are nearly DOUBLE now, and it's so awesome.

Tsutarja July 16th, 2015 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDDchu (Post 8848994)
Sorry to derail, but this is exciting. We replaced Comcast with Verizon today, and my download speeds are nearly DOUBLE now, and it's so awesome.

Excellent decision there for sure! You should note that your upload speed is symmetrical to your download speed as well :)

Frequency July 16th, 2015 3:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meganium (Post 8847568)
It's going to cost me at least $900 to build a desktop with the components I want.

I might consider taking out another credit card. I just wanna play PC games dang it. xD

I know this feel.

But once I got my income taxes BOOOOOOOII

Meganium July 16th, 2015 8:27 PM

I'm okay with Uverse here, but if I ever get around to getting my own ISP, I would be paying extra rent, which is totally okay because it's just a $15-20 increase anyways.

Morkula July 16th, 2015 9:10 PM

You guys with multiple internet options are lucky. Since I live in the middle of nowhere, I have no choice but Verizon DSL. 3Mbps down...it's terrible. Once I get my own place in the city (hopefully before too long) I'll have access to cable and possibly even FiOS. But until then, I just do any big downloads at work, where we have glorious FiOS, and put them on my external HDD to bring home.

Tsutarja July 16th, 2015 9:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Morkula (Post 8849646)
I have no choice but Verizon DSL. 3Mbps down...it's terrible.

You probably live closer to a central office than my family does to ours, lol. We live almost outside a 2-mile radius from our central office, and what you're getting is faster than what my family was able to get with Verizon DSL (we could only get 1.5 Mb/s down maximum), and this was back before 2010 (when we got FiOS into our neighborhood).

Tsutarja July 21st, 2015 9:22 AM

So yesterday twitter removed custom backgrounds, and it makes no sense. I'm honestly not happy with such change, but I wonder at the same time if it will eventually be brushed off as soon as people adjust to it.

Legendary Silke July 22nd, 2015 2:23 AM

I'm going to miss that silly Noivern tiled background I have. Hehe.

Meganium July 25th, 2015 4:54 PM

Alright guys. I've been biting my tongue for a while now, and I'm gonna go for buying a tablet this coming payday.

I love Apple, and I've been wanting an iPad for a while...but I also have my eye on the latest Samsung Galaxy Tab. But I'm iffy when it comes to size. When I hold a 7-8 inch tablet, it feels like I'm holding a phone. I don't know...I'm THAT picky. I only need the tablet for uni so I don't have to carry my laptop around anymore. I have etextbooks I prefer reading comfortably from the tablet instead of the computer screen.

If anyone has some recommendations, let me know! I'm pretty open.

Tsutarja July 27th, 2015 5:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meganium (Post 8863003)
Alright guys. I've been biting my tongue for a while now, and I'm gonna go for buying a tablet this coming payday.

I love Apple, and I've been wanting an iPad for a while...but I also have my eye on the latest Samsung Galaxy Tab. But I'm iffy when it comes to size. When I hold a 7-8 inch tablet, it feels like I'm holding a phone. I don't know...I'm THAT picky. I only need the tablet for uni so I don't have to carry my laptop around anymore. I have etextbooks I prefer reading comfortably from the tablet instead of the computer screen.

If anyone has some recommendations, let me know! I'm pretty open.

8" tablets aren't so bad, but a 7" tablet might feel like a phone, especially if you own an iPhone 6+ or any other "phablet" out there. If I may ask, what is your budget when it comes to getting a tablet, and what are you looking for in terms of general functionality?

Palkia July 28th, 2015 9:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meganium (Post 8863003)
Alright guys. I've been biting my tongue for a while now, and I'm gonna go for buying a tablet this coming payday.

I love Apple, and I've been wanting an iPad for a while...but I also have my eye on the latest Samsung Galaxy Tab. But I'm iffy when it comes to size. When I hold a 7-8 inch tablet, it feels like I'm holding a phone. I don't know...I'm THAT picky. I only need the tablet for uni so I don't have to carry my laptop around anymore. I have etextbooks I prefer reading comfortably from the tablet instead of the computer screen.

If anyone has some recommendations, let me know! I'm pretty open.

imo you should look into a convertible Windows tablet. The trouble with iPads and android tablets is that they work like oversized phones, but windows tablets use the same os as a laptop. If you just need something for basic uni needs look into a tablet like this. They're usually not too heavy and you can detach the keyboard if you really don't need a keyboard.

Tsutarja July 28th, 2015 8:30 PM

Happy Windows 10 day, guys!

Meganium July 28th, 2015 8:56 PM

My main dilemma when it comes to windows tablets is...I don't want that tablet to replace a laptop or desktop, ya know? I still am fond of physical keyboards, as well as customization abilities...so I don't want to *fully* transition as of yet. I want a tablet mainly to just...leave my laptop at home so I don't have to carry it around at uni. Mainly I use it to access the web, and to read books on it.

Also YAY WINDOWS 10. Currently backing up my stuff as I speak. Are we able to upgrade it at midnight sharp? Or do we have to wait in line? I'm willing to do that right now.

Legendary Silke July 28th, 2015 11:04 PM

A mysterious download is going on in my laptop, and a new $Windows.~BT folder has appeared in the root of the system drive. It's 3.5 GB large now.

I think I'm going to be really excited. :)

Qibli July 29th, 2015 12:37 AM

Installed several updates, try to use provided CMD to get the thingy. But I don't see Get windows 10 on my taskbar and my windows is genuine and SP1

Legendary Silke July 29th, 2015 4:18 AM

I'm grabbing the ISOs of Windows 10 just in case. I'm downloading both the 32-bit and the 64-bit versions, and should the need arise, I'll just need to use a burnt DVD of them.

Tsutarja July 29th, 2015 6:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Yveltal (Post 8867629)
Installed several updates, try to use provided CMD to get the thingy. But I don't see Get windows 10 on my taskbar and my windows is genuine and SP1

Which OS are you running? Do you see updates KB3035583, KB2952664, and/or KB2976978 in your Windows Update history?

esperance July 29th, 2015 8:50 AM

When we do upgrade to Windows 10, will our current files still be there? I just want to make sure.

Tsutarja July 29th, 2015 8:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost Heart (Post 8868129)
When we do upgrade to Windows 10, will our current files still be there? I just want to make sure.

Usually in an upgrade, files are preserved, unless you specify to do a clean install. It's usually only programs that might go away, but files are generally preserved

esperance July 29th, 2015 9:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsutarja (Post 8868139)
Usually in an upgrade, files are preserved, unless you specify to do a clean install. It's usually only programs that might go away, but files are generally preserved

Oh good. I was worried. At least it seems to be downloading quickly for me. After about 7 minutes I'm at 45%.

Qibli July 29th, 2015 9:50 AM

Actually nevermind. I manage to installed 10 after all. Despite really slow installation process and it finally came

Starry Windy July 29th, 2015 10:53 PM

The installation of Windows 10 was quite bumpy for me, it takes about 4 hours for me to apply the update. (The first hour was about the downloading the update, but the net suddenly drops for 1-2 hours when I'm almost at the end of it that I have to try upgrading again after the failure.)

Legendary Silke July 30th, 2015 3:39 AM

It's a very good idea to just grab the media creation tool and upgrade from there/burn a DVD and use the installer within the burned DVD instead.

And, no matter what, never attempt to upgrade by booting the DVD or USB stick. It won't recognize a pre-existing Windows installation that way. Run the installer as if it were an app's setup program instead.

Alexander Nicholi July 30th, 2015 4:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8869320)
And, no matter what, never attempt to upgrade by booting the DVD or USB stick. It won't recognize a pre-existing Windows installation that way. Run the installer as if it were an app's setup program instead.

That seems kind of counterintuitive, don't you think

Legendary Silke July 30th, 2015 4:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 8869343)
That seems kind of counterintuitive, don't you think

It is, but I think it needs to grab activation info.

Alexander Nicholi July 30th, 2015 5:15 AM

My buddy linkandzelda shared this with me, so have a laugh from you to me:

Rukario July 30th, 2015 2:11 PM

agree updating to Win10 wasn't a easy or fun process.. many bumps and quite slow.

I also had to use the make a media thing as the GWX app just vanished on my Dell Win7 machine. I ran it from the dl (it has a install [update] now selection as well as burn dvd/usb)

Overall it took about 2 1/2 to 3 hours to complete the update. then another 2 hours to get "activated"

But it does work and seems to be ok looking too: http://snag.gy/kyiIb.jpg EXCEPT for all that damn white EVERYWHERE!

esperance July 30th, 2015 3:02 PM

Well it seems to be working pretty great for me now. I just can't get the login window for Cortana to stay open.

Alexander Nicholi July 31st, 2015 4:50 PM

I went shopping at work today and got a new (sort-of) PC for $90. :D

http://i.imgur.com/Bs8eR0E.png

Here's its specifications:

Starry Windy July 31st, 2015 5:56 PM

I think it's pretty good, despite of the fact that you're using Vista as your PC's OS. Personally, I think using old OS (like Windows XP, in my case) may bring some enjoyment as well, even though I'm relying much on Windows 10 nowadays.

Tsutarja July 31st, 2015 5:59 PM

Remember, Vista can be easily upgraded. ;)

Alexander Nicholi July 31st, 2015 6:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsutarja (Post 8871688)
Remember, Vista can be easily upgraded. ;)

Is that like if you copy, there's one for each of us, or am I missing something here? I don't think it's eligible for 10 lol

Tsutarja July 31st, 2015 6:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 8871696)
Is that like if you copy, there's one for each of us, or am I missing something here? I don't think it's eligible for 10 lol

I was thinking along the lines of Windows 7, guess I forgot to say that.

Alexander Nicholi July 31st, 2015 9:13 PM

I just decided to dump Windows (again) and clone my install of ^! from my VAIO. The thing is, only the VAIO supports hardware virtualization with its Sandy Bridge chip, so I won't be running a Windows VM on this Q8200 here, sadly. Shame it has the same amount of RAM and more physical cores, but what can you do, eh?

I may or may not consider dual-booting in the future. I dunno. I'm grossly accustomed to having Windows in tandem with Arch for only when I need it, you know what I mean?

Legendary Silke August 1st, 2015 7:40 AM

It's funny how I've basically learned a heck of a lot of things about building a modern PC with modern PC sensibilities in the last month... I've, like, basically upgraded all my knowledge since the Core 2 days.

Tsutarja August 1st, 2015 5:43 PM

I can still remember when I was scared of touching pieces of hardware already inside a tower to move them around/clean...I used to think they would zap me unless I was equipped with an antistatic band.

Needless to say, I am very careless and don't use one, but I do ensure that the towers are fully discharged by pressing the power button on them a few times while unplugged before I work on them.

Legendary Silke August 1st, 2015 7:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsutarja (Post 8872920)
I can still remember when I was scared of touching pieces of hardware already inside a tower to move them around/clean...I used to think they would zap me unless I was equipped with an antistatic band.

Needless to say, I am very careless and don't use one, but I do ensure that the towers are fully discharged by pressing the power button on them a few times while unplugged before I work on them.

And discharge yourself on some metal part! :P

Tsutarja August 1st, 2015 7:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8873007)
And discharge yourself on some metal part! :P

Well, I do work on a flat countertop with no metal around whenever I clean my towers out, but really I've never touched metallic objects either while messing with computer hardware.

Although the other week, I did slightly feel a jolt of current when moving coaxial cable around and onto a different splitter.

Alexander Nicholi August 1st, 2015 10:12 PM

RAM modules often discharge into my fingers, from what I can feel. And sometimes PCI cards, but that's it. Near as I can tell that electric feel I get from them doesn't harm them or anything since they all still work fine...

also, PC building on carpet in socks + sweater ftw

I have an anti-static wriststrap, and try to use it when I'm in delicate/dangerous environments. Most of the time I'm at my workbench though, so it doesn't matter.


Also, I am really shocked at how well this 7-year-old C2Q is rendering on Integrated graphics! Minecraft is totally maxed out and I get a stable 22 fps, often going above 30.



This is on integrated graphics on an Intel chip from 2008. I don't even have Intel HD anything, either. I'm happy.

I'm going to be getting a Zotac GT 740 as soon as I can, and when I do maybe the shader pack Team Fail gave to me won't turn my blocks into mush xD

Legendary Silke August 2nd, 2015 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick (Post 8873140)
RAM modules often discharge into my fingers, from what I can feel. And sometimes PCI cards, but that's it. Near as I can tell that electric feel I get from them doesn't harm them or anything since they all still work fine...

also, PC building on carpet in socks + sweater ftw

I have an anti-static wriststrap, and try to use it when I'm in delicate/dangerous environments. Most of the time I'm at my workbench though, so it doesn't matter.


Also, I am really shocked at how well this 7-year-old C2Q is rendering on Integrated graphics! Minecraft is totally maxed out and I get a stable 22 fps, often going above 30.



This is on integrated graphics on an Intel chip from 2008. I don't even have Intel HD anything, either. I'm happy.

I'm going to be getting a Zotac GT 740 as soon as I can, and when I do maybe the shader pack Team Fail gave to me won't turn my blocks into mush xD

Mmm hmm! Does it run fine when it rains? (You might want to consider reducing or eliminating particle effects.)

Mewtwolover August 4th, 2015 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rukario (Post 8870037)
agree updating to Win10 wasn't a easy or fun process.. many bumps and quite slow.

I also had to use the make a media thing as the GWX app just vanished on my Dell Win7 machine. I ran it from the dl (it has a install [update] now selection as well as burn dvd/usb)

Overall it took about 2 1/2 to 3 hours to complete the update. then another 2 hours to get "activated"

Looks like M$ is behind Linux in that as well. E.g. updating Ubuntu to new version is a lot easier process, it takes only hour or two and then it's ready to use, you usually don't need to update drivers or reinstall software.

Legendary Silke August 5th, 2015 2:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mewtwolover (Post 8876372)
Looks like M$ is behind Linux in that as well. E.g. updating Ubuntu to new version is a lot easier process, it takes only hour or two and then it's ready to use, you usually don't need to update drivers or reinstall software.

Normally, Windows upgrades to 8, 8.1, or 10 shouldn't take hours. Is download time taken into account?

Also, calling Microsoft as "M$" is a very good way to...well, don't do it.

I'm not sure if I want to take Ubuntu over Windows, given that it's not Windows.

Alexander Nicholi August 5th, 2015 6:22 AM


This is so sexy. Makes me glad I'm getting a (paying) job.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Mewtwolover (Post 8876372)
Looks like M$ is behind Linux in that as well. E.g. updating Ubuntu to new version is a lot easier process, it takes only hour or two and then it's ready to use, you usually don't need to update drivers or reinstall software.

Redundant Window$ is redudant. I do have to give them credit though, they sure have maintained backwards compatibility, if not at the price of becoming a little backwards in and of itself...

On my OS it's as simple as typing pacman -Syyu and hitting return. Often times my "upgrades" free disk space. Amazing, right?

Legendary Silke August 5th, 2015 6:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick (Post 8877578)

This is so sexy. Makes me glad I'm getting a (paying) job.




Redundant Window$ is redudant. I do have to give them credit though, they sure have maintained backwards compatibility, if not at the price of becoming a little backwards in and of itself...

On my OS it's as simple as typing pacman -Syyu and hitting return. Often times my "upgrades" free disk space. Amazing, right?

Have you tried removing the Windows.old folder? That alone accounts for a bunch of space. Keep in mind that with identical setups and a fresh disk drive, Windows 10 should save a bit of space compared to either a normal Windows 8.1 installation or a WIMBoot-style installation (which isn't necessary anymore with Windows 10 on low-storage-space devices).

I suddenly want to get a Z170 motherboard and a Skylake-based i5, but I want to wait until the H170-based motherboards come out and a standard i5. Cheaper that way, and you get most of the benefits.

Then again, a H97 + i5 combo isn't too shabby, either. Close enough. And much cheaper, readily available.

Alexander Nicholi August 5th, 2015 7:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8877599)
Have you tried removing the Windows.old folder? That alone accounts for a bunch of space. Keep in mind that with identical setups and a fresh disk drive, Windows 10 should save a bit of space compared to either a normal Windows 8.1 installation or a WIMBoot-style installation (which isn't necessary anymore with Windows 10 on low-storage-space devices).

I'll report back with my before-and-after disk space sizes (right now I have 6.26GiB left).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8877599)
I suddenly want to get a Z170 motherboard and a Skylake-based i5, but I want to wait until the H170-based motherboards come out and a standard i5. Cheaper that way, and you get most of the benefits.

Then again, a H97 + i5 combo isn't too shabby, either. Close enough. And much cheaper, readily available.

I've decided to just forget my H97 passive build for now, and go all out with an i7-6700K, an active air cooler, and possibly even a GTX 960 if I'm daring (or whatever newer merch Nvidia/AMD may have out before I buy). Since my uncle is buying the 6700K, it's up to him how long he wants to wait and have it drop before Christmas I guess. But I'll be messaging him this link soon anyway.

If I return to my passive build though, it'll probably be once we have a second iteration of Skylake Core i3s, and I'll be doing it in a Micro ATX case instead.

Honestly, I'm just kinda disappointed in Broadwell in the desktop market. Maybe it was Intel's intention to skip a beat to cut AMD some slack, eh? That makes sense to me. The big thing about Skylake, though, is rumours of more common 5GHz overclocks! I'm so excited over that :D "5GHz on air" won't be some elitist meme anymore


As far as GPUs go, I would love a neue-architecture AMD card! I just cannot stand the rebrands – if it was something like a Fury but not super-high end, I'd definitely buy. I've about had it with Nvidia's restrictiveness and like behaviours. :/

Legendary Silke August 5th, 2015 7:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick (Post 8877629)
I'll report back with my before-and-after disk space sizes (right now I have 6.26GiB left).

OK, don't forget to tell!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick (Post 8877629)
I've decided to just forget my H97 passive build for now, and go all out with an i7-6700K, an active air cooler, and possibly even a GTX 960 if I'm daring (or whatever newer merch Nvidia/AMD may have out before I buy). Since my uncle is buying the 6700K, it's up to him how long he wants to wait and have it drop before Christmas I guess. But I'll be messaging him this link soon anyway.

If I return to my passive build though, it'll probably be once we have a second iteration of Skylake Core i3s, and I'll be doing it in a Micro ATX case instead.

Honestly, I'm just kinda disappointed in Broadwell in the desktop market. Maybe it was Intel's intention to skip a beat to cut AMD some slack, eh? That makes sense to me. The big thing about Skylake, though, is rumours of more common 5GHz overclocks! I'm so excited over that :D "5GHz on air" won't be some elitist meme anymore

I don't really need a passive build. Since I tend to have a table fan or the AC running anyway, I don't need a PC to be dead silent. So long as its own fans don't overpower the noise the room normally has, it's fine. Come to think of it, I normally can't hear my laptop's fan spinning unless I'm playing a modern video game, and even then, it doesn't sound like a jet engine.'

You can really tell that Broadwell is extremely mobile-focused, given that they're really late to the party, and all we have got are beefed-up, doubled-up not-quite-mobile parts with unusually good integrated graphics for Intel.

Me, I think I'm going with an i5-4460 or i5-4590, one stick of 8 GB DDR3 RAM since the benefits are relatively small, especially when not playing video games on integrated graphics, a GTX 960, and a 2 TB 7200 RPM HDD. 7200 RPM desktop HDDs seem to be pretty competent as far as Windows 7 boot times are concerned, and they are tolerable, compared to what you'd get with a 5400 RPM laptop drive. I'm actually considering just getting a WD Black 2TB as the only system drive, since SSDs suddenly felt very unnecessary. At least, for desktops.

I'd probably go with an Asus H97M-E and the Asus STRIX GTX 960. I like pairing $200 CPUs with a $200 graphics card, and keep the costs of the other components to a minimum while maintaining sufficient quality and functionality.

The RAM module I have in mind right now is a 8 GB Crucial DDR3-1600 stick. Barebones, but it works, and it's dense and cheap. Thinking of just using the integrated audio, too. A Corsair Carbide 100R is more than good enough for me - looks nice enough without looking gaudy or cheap, and the windowed version should be nice for looking into the system. The free 120mm intake fan couldn't hurt, too, or the fact that this case still has all the modern sensibilities - tool-less drive bays for 3.5" and 5.25" drives and bottom-mounted PSUs, anyone? Or not having to accidentally risk a blood sacrifice while building a PC? Places to hide cables? :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick (Post 8877629)
As far as GPUs go, I would love a neue-architecture AMD card! I just cannot stand the rebrands – if it was something like a Fury but not super-high end, I'd definitely buy. I've about had it with Nvidia's restrictiveness and like behaviours. :/

The financial situation at AMD isn't helping anything. Or some very poor pricing decisions lately... you do not want to price your card the same level as a superior competitor and also undersupply.

Right now, I'm just on the fence about the power supply. Obviously, nobody wants to get a gutless wonder, or a horribly inefficient unit. The nicer PSUs with 5-year warranties, semi-modular cables, and 80+ Gold certifications are so much more expensive than their cheaper counterparts, though. I'm still iffy about the prospects of getting a Corsair VS550 or a CX600M as the power supply. They aren't exactly the best power supplies around, but they should at least last through the warranty period of three years. (I could get the Corsair CS550M...but it's not in stock.)

Alexander Nicholi August 5th, 2015 8:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8877656)
OK, don't forget to tell!

Also, I apparently freed 1.44GiB of disk space, after a restart of course. I'm just glad it fits on my 40GiB VHD is all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8877656)
I don't really need a passive build. Since I tend to have a table fan or the AC running anyway, I don't need a PC to be dead silent. So long as its own fans don't overpower the noise the room normally has, it's fine. Come to think of it, I normally can't hear my laptop's fan spinning unless I'm playing a modern video game, and even then, it doesn't sound like a jet engine.

Yeah, you're probably right about that. The whole passive goal is more of an enthusiast theme for me though, than a practical noise-saver. :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8877656)
You can really tell that Broadwell is extremely mobile-focused, given that they're really late to the party, and all we have got are beefed-up, doubled-up not-quite-mobile parts with unusually good integrated graphics for Intel.

Skylake's iGPUs are taking up arms with better performance too, though! And despite having leaps and bounds better graphics than Sandy Bridge they still have that 5-10% perf. increase over Haswell. So I'd say Intel worked pretty hard on their release this time around. It also means I can wait out getting a GPU until I feel like buying one for those super-cool shaders in Minecraft, lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8877656)
Me, I think I'm going with an i5-4460 or i5-4590, one stick of 8 GB DDR3 RAM since the benefits are relatively small, especially when not playing video games on integrated graphics, a GTX 960, and a 2 TB 7200 RPM HDD. 7200 RPM desktop HDDs seem to be pretty competent as far as Windows 7 boot times are concerned, and they are tolerable, compared to what you'd get with a 5400 RPM laptop drive. I'm actually considering just getting a WD Black 2TB as the only system drive, since SSDs suddenly felt very unnecessary. At least, for desktops.

I wonder why? WD Blacks are really good drives, if you're looking for boot perf., definitely go with them. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8877656)
I'd probably go with an Asus H97M-E and the Asus STRIX GTX 960. I like pairing $200 CPUs with a $200 graphics card, and keep the costs of the other components to a minimum while maintaining sufficient quality and functionality.

That's a pretty smart baseline rule, IMO. I just can't help but geek out at some of the higher-end stuff, which is why I'm buying them! It's just too cool.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8877656)
The RAM module I have in mind right now is a 8 GB Crucial DDR3-1600 stick. Barebones, but it works, and it's dense and cheap.

Go with Kingston, they're cool too you know. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8877656)
Thinking of just using the integrated audio, too.

Any reason why you wouldn't? :o

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8877656)
A Corsair Carbide 100R is more than good enough for me - looks nice enough without looking gaudy or cheap, and the windowed version should be nice for looking into the system. The free 120mm intake fan couldn't hurt, too, or the fact that this case still has all the modern sensibilities - tool-less drive bays for 3.5" and 5.25" drives and bottom-mounted PSUs, anyone? Or not having to accidentally risk a blood sacrifice while building a PC? Places to hide cables? :)

I was happy my Cougar Solution has good cable management too, despite being only $50. Things tucked so nicely in there, if I sleeved the cables it would be 100%. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 8877656)
Right now, I'm just on the fence about the power supply. Obviously, nobody wants to get a gutless wonder, or a horribly inefficient unit. The nicer PSUs with 5-year warranties, semi-modular cables, and 80+ Gold certifications are so much more expensive than their cheaper counterparts, though. I'm still iffy about the prospects of getting a Corsair VS550 or a CX600M as the power supply. They aren't exactly the best power supplies around, but they should at least last through the warranty period of three years. (I could get the Corsair CS550M...but it's not in stock.)

If I were you I'd get a fully-modular SeaSonic PSU. Those should be high enough quality for your needs, and... you don't wanna mess with something that'd break in 3 years anyway.

One of my subscribers to my Pwenet build has this extreme real-deal passive build he's making, and it helped me decide to just drop this build for now, get the good stuff I want, and when I pick it back up do it right. Paid employment means I can finance custom metal cuts, among other things, which may possibly entail a totally custom case – something that would be really awesome to do. I'm going to have to study on how heat flows, though, so I don't make some nonsensical case that just looks alright. xD

I'm kinda bummed out that I largely missed Haswell for desktops. I mean, yeah, I could buy for a little while here, but it's going to be last gen so soon from now, you know? The only Haswell chip I worked with was a mobile Celeron, which, needless to say... got the hammer. :P I'm just disappointed in the design of my H97 board, but for $90 what did I expect really... I want a Z-series board regardless of whether I'm overclocking or not. Though I'll probably want to do those things still, so maybe I do need it, eh? RAM overclocking is really a thing for me.

I'm certainly not set on DDR4 RAM and what module/style I wanna go with, but as far as DDR3 goes... HyperX Savage all the way. It covers 1600MHz at a nice CAS 9 latency, and 2400MHz at CL11. I dunno what I'd buy for 3GHz DDR3 honestly, but I really like Kingston :P (I'm really bothered by RAM frequencies not sitting on a zero or two.) Though as far as storage goes, I am set on setting up a NAS before I go dumping HDDs into towers or anything. I'm a lot more comfortable having all of my terminals run off of SSDs, and having shared storage over the network... which I've found the need for as of recently. My little external drive that I have to constantly switch back and forth between PCs isn't cutting it anymore.

Cases are always a big heat-of-the-moment hunt for me. I have to get one that looks just like I want it to. So far I'm happy with a couple Cougar case models, and though I have looked at a lot of the "mainstream" cases I often feel like the case defines the personality of the PC, so I want it to be original, at least somewhat, you know?

For GPUs, a 750 Ti is likely enough for me, buuut... I want a 4GiB GTX 960, so I can SLI when it's old and rusty. xD That's ample performance for my light needs for a long time when you think about it. Doing Minecraft on Linux and taking advantage of dem open-source Nvidia drivers like a boss. As far as a PSU goes, I'll probably pick something mainstream, and SeaSonic too. For my passive build I was going to get a pricy-af 400W 80+ Platinum fanless PSU, but thankfully that can wait, haha.


Say, should I go Micro ATX with my Skylake PC?

Legendary Silke August 5th, 2015 3:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick (Post 8877717)
Also, I apparently freed 1.44GiB of disk space, after a restart of course. I'm just glad it fits on my 40GiB VHD is all.


Yeah, you're probably right about that. The whole passive goal is more of an enthusiast theme for me though, than a practical noise-saver. :P


Skylake's iGPUs are taking up arms with better performance too, though! And despite having leaps and bounds better graphics than Sandy Bridge they still have that 5-10% perf. increase over Haswell. So I'd say Intel worked pretty hard on their release this time around. It also means I can wait out getting a GPU until I feel like buying one for those super-cool shaders in Minecraft, lol.


I wonder why? WD Blacks are really good drives, if you're looking for boot perf., definitely go with them. :)


That's a pretty smart baseline rule, IMO. I just can't help but geek out at some of the higher-end stuff, which is why I'm buying them! It's just too cool.


Go with Kingston, they're cool too you know. ;)


Any reason why you wouldn't? :o


I was happy my Cougar Solution has good cable management too, despite being only $50. Things tucked so nicely in there, if I sleeved the cables it would be 100%. :D


If I were you I'd get a fully-modular SeaSonic PSU. Those should be high enough quality for your needs, and... you don't wanna mess with something that'd break in 3 years anyway.

One of my subscribers to my Pwenet build has this extreme real-deal passive build he's making, and it helped me decide to just drop this build for now, get the good stuff I want, and when I pick it back up do it right. Paid employment means I can finance custom metal cuts, among other things, which may possibly entail a totally custom case – something that would be really awesome to do. I'm going to have to study on how heat flows, though, so I don't make some nonsensical case that just looks alright. xD

I'm kinda bummed out that I largely missed Haswell for desktops. I mean, yeah, I could buy for a little while here, but it's going to be last gen so soon from now, you know? The only Haswell chip I worked with was a mobile Celeron, which, needless to say... got the hammer. :P I'm just disappointed in the design of my H97 board, but for $90 what did I expect really... I want a Z-series board regardless of whether I'm overclocking or not. Though I'll probably want to do those things still, so maybe I do need it, eh? RAM overclocking is really a thing for me.

I'm certainly not set on DDR4 RAM and what module/style I wanna go with, but as far as DDR3 goes... HyperX Savage all the way. It covers 1600MHz at a nice CAS 9 latency, and 2400MHz at CL11. I dunno what I'd buy for 3GHz DDR3 honestly, but I really like Kingston :P (I'm really bothered by RAM frequencies not sitting on a zero or two.) Though as far as storage goes, I am set on setting up a NAS before I go dumping HDDs into towers or anything. I'm a lot more comfortable having all of my terminals run off of SSDs, and having shared storage over the network... which I've found the need for as of recently. My little external drive that I have to constantly switch back and forth between PCs isn't cutting it anymore.

Cases are always a big heat-of-the-moment hunt for me. I have to get one that looks just like I want it to. So far I'm happy with a couple Cougar case models, and though I have looked at a lot of the "mainstream" cases I often feel like the case defines the personality of the PC, so I want it to be original, at least somewhat, you know?

For GPUs, a 750 Ti is likely enough for me, buuut... I want a 4GiB GTX 960, so I can SLI when it's old and rusty. xD That's ample performance for my light needs for a long time when you think about it. Doing Minecraft on Linux and taking advantage of dem open-source Nvidia drivers like a boss. As far as a PSU goes, I'll probably pick something mainstream, and SeaSonic too. For my passive build I was going to get a pricy-af 400W 80+ Platinum fanless PSU, but thankfully that can wait, haha.


Say, should I go Micro ATX with my Skylake PC?

The 750 Ti is too expensive for what it is compared to the GTX 960 as far as I am concerned. Well, that, and the way they're priced here.

Just stick with a standard ATX case. So long as you're not scraping the bottom of the barrel, you will be fine, and you'll be glad that you got a nice case.

Probably would just use a Micro-ATX motherboard in an ATX case.

I'm more of a performance/cost person, so I tend to skip anything unnecessary.

I would not even consider Linux for anything since, well, what respectable gaming rig is going to get stuck with just Linux? In addition to having the widest PC game compatibility, I also get the access to, well, almost everything if I stick to Windows. Going to stick Windows 8.1 in there.


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