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Rain T. December 20th, 2015 6:17 PM

I would love something like a masquerade mask or a cape that matches Roserade. Or a shirt with roses at the ends of the sleeves.

Maybe instead of a whole Serperior costume, just a shirt with the same design as the from portion of its body, with a collar that rises up and curls back like those two yellow extensions from Serperior's neck?

How about a hat with Skiddo or Gogoat horns attached? That would be very cute.

LilyGardy December 26th, 2015 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain T. (Post 9043038)
Spoiler:
I would love something like a masquerade mask or a cape that matches Roserade. Or a shirt with roses at the ends of the sleeves.

Maybe instead of a whole Serperior costume, just a shirt with the same design as the from portion of its body, with a collar that rises up and curls back like those two yellow extensions from Serperior's neck?

How about a hat with Skiddo or Gogoat horns attached? That would be very cute.



I never thought of a Roserade mask. It could look very cool if done right or could perhaps be used for a future Grass-type Trainer similar to Elite Four Will's Mask. A Roserade or Serperior shirt would work well too.

Game Freak like protagonists to wear hats. A Skiddo hat would indeed be very cute.

In a Christmas Giveaway of sorts everyone who answered the last topic gains a Pokémon for the Scenario Campaign. It is:


Congratulations Rain T on being the first member to have a full team for the Grass Type Scenario Campaign. You will still be able to gain more Pokemon.



New Topic

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/b/bd/Celadon_Gym_RBY.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/9/9b/Celadon_Gym_FRLG.png

Following the announcement that the first Generation Games will be released in the New Year. The next topic concerns Celadon Gym.

1. Have you ever earned the Rainbow Badge in the Original Kanto Games or the remakes. What did you make of Celadon Gym's layout and design?

2. What do you think of it being an All Female Gym? Do you think this was done to fit the character of Erika and/or the character of the Grass Type which is seen as one of the more feminine types.

3. There is a man stood outside Celadon Gym staring through the window. He infamously states that he loves the Gym as it is 'full of women'. What do you make of his inclusion and the fact his dialogue was changed to 'full of strong trainers' in later games?

4. In the Kanto Games there are seven Gym Trainers with the most common trainer class being Beauty. Is this too many trainers? Do the trainer classes fit with the character of the Gym?

5. There is a glitch in the Red and Blue games where you can effectively solo the Gym (Except Erika's Tangela) with a low level Oddish, Bellsprout or Bulbasaur. Were you aware of this glitch and if so did you exploit it?

6. What do you make of Erika's teams in the Kanto Games? (Tangela, Vileplume, Victreebell in Red and Blue, Tangela, Weepinbell and Gloom in Yellow)

All answers gain a Tangela for the Scenario Campaign with Best Answer gaining a Tangrowth

Killua December 26th, 2015 5:49 AM

Have you ever earned the Rainbow Badge in the Original Kanto Games or the remakes. What did you make of Celadon Gym's layout and design? Yes, I liked the cuttable três.

2. What do you think of it being an All Female Gym? Do you think this was done to fit the character of Erika and/or the character of the Grass Type which is seen as one of the more feminine types. Yeah I linda liked it, it is funny to see that some typings are used mostly by another sex

3. There is a man stood outside Celadon Gym staring through the window. He infamously states that he loves the Gym as it is 'full of women'. What do you make of his inclusion and the fact his dialogue was changed to 'full of strong trainers' in later games?
Perv alert perv alert!!!!!!! I think that at least they would have to do this come on there are people criticizing pokémon because of the game corner this line of thing would make esrb destros pokémon.

4. In the Kanto Games there are seven Gym Trainers with the most common trainer class being Beauty. Is this too many trainers? Do the trainer classes fit with the character of the Gym?
I think that aroma ladys fit more
5. There is a glitch in the Red and Blue games where you can effectively solo the Gym (Except Erika's Tangela) with a low level Oddish, Bellsprout or Bulbasaur. Were you aware of this glitch and if so did you exploit it? No never heard of

6. What do you make of Erika's teams in the Kanto Games? (Tangela, Vileplume, Victreebell in Red and Blue, Tangela, Weepinbell and Gloom in Yellow)
Hmmm overall red and blue are stronger but I had more problems in yellow cause my charmander was not very strong

ddrox13 December 26th, 2015 6:40 PM

Oh my, long topic.

1. Have you ever earned the Rainbow Badge in the Original Kanto Games or the remakes. What did you make of Celadon Gym's layout and design?


Yes. The gym's design was... plain, but fine in most games. My issue with it is the same as one of the ones I have with Lt. Surge's Gym: It requires you to carry a Cut user. In a challenge, this often reduces your usable team to 5, which is annoying. Of course, I only had 3 Pokemon in my monograss at that point anyway, soooo...

2. What do you think of it being an All Female Gym? Do you think this was done to fit the character of Erika and/or the character of the Grass Type which is seen as one of the more feminine types.

UHHHHH, RAMOS WOULD BEG TO DIFFER... Oh wait, he's girly anyway. Uhhh anyway... The all-female gym fits Erika quite well. It's especially noticeable in Gen 1, where you are always a Male character. It, much like the Eterna gym in gen 4, adds a very beautyish aura to it, and makes it feel like a Grass gym, whereas Ramos' gym in Kalos I had to ask the gym guide to figure out what type it was on my first playthrough. Also, the gym is shaped like the female gender sign, so it matches the design of the gym as well.

3. There is a man stood outside Celadon Gym staring through the window. He infamously states that he loves the Gym as it is 'full of women'. What do you make of his inclusion and the fact his dialogue was changed to 'full of strong trainers' in later games?

Reinforces the above. Tells the player that this is going to be a gym that will look beautiful, at which point it's type becomes obvious as soon as you walk in the door, because there damn well isn't a all-female bug gym. As for it's removal in the Johto games, GF's translators realized they ****ed up.

4. In the Kanto Games there are seven Gym Trainers with the most common trainer class being Beauty. Is this too many trainers? Do the trainer classes fit with the character of the Gym?

Better than 3 trillion Rangers to represent this type (can you tell that I love the Coumarine Gym?). That aside, it agrees with the all-female aspect of the gym, but neatly contradicts Erika's attitude in the games as someone who introduces herself to challengers by talking about the weather (making it fun to spam Hail in in Gen 4).

5. There is a glitch in the Red and Blue games where you can effectively solo the Gym (Except Erika's Tangela) with a low level Oddish, Bellsprout or Bulbasaur. Were you aware of this glitch and if so did you exploit it?

Like half the GLs have this problem with some of their pokemon lel, and i'll exploit it if I'm using Bulbasaur anyway.

For those not familiar with it, the glitch involves an oversight in gen I AI programming. The Gen I AI is programmed to always use a supereffective move if one is available. The problem was that they forgot to exempt Status moves from this. As such, any Grass type will cause Erika's two half-poison pokemon to use only Poisonpowder, which any of your Grass/Poisons are immune to. Zubat can do it to Lance's Dragonite compliments of Agility. I think any pure Water, Rock, Ground, or combination of the above can do it to Sabrina's Venomoth, compliments of Stun Spore. You get my drift now.

6. What do you make of Erika's teams in the Kanto Games? (Tangela, Vileplume, Victreebell in Red and Blue, Tangela, Weepinbell and Gloom in Yellow)


Dear Yellow Erika: Please walk the 45 steps outside your gym to the Department Store and buy yourself a pair of Leaf Stones. It will be well-worth your trouble.
The Grass type gives Erika 6 lines to work with: she uses Tangela and the Oddish and Bellsprout lines, but ignores the Bulbasaur, Paras, and Exeggcute lines. After doing a Firered monograss, I would have to recommend swapping out the 3 lines she uses for the ones she doesn't. Tangela gets no moves in that generation, Vileplume and Victreebel have exactly the same useless moves (see the above answer). Venusaur just generally outclasses the other two Poison types, Parasect has Spore and access to every TM in the damn game, and Exeggutor is adept at taking out the poison types that may cheese her current lineup.

LilyGardy December 28th, 2015 11:50 PM

I am going on Holiday later today and won't be back until January 4th. I will hand out the prizes for the current topic when I get back.

If anyone wishes to make a new topic whilst I am away they can.

Happy Holidays and I will be back in the New Year.

ddrox13 December 30th, 2015 3:09 PM

There was some discussion about this earlier, but I'll re-address it here since I' don't think it has been an actual topic before (correct me if i'm wrong)

NEW TOPIC:
Do you have a signature Grass type? What is it? Why?


Ofc, continue to answer the previous topic for prizes and such.

Killua December 31st, 2015 4:46 AM

Ok you meana signature grass pokemon right (i dont have a question button its broken)

It is hmm i cannot decide between shaymin-sky or serperior

Rain T. January 1st, 2016 6:45 PM

1. Have you ever earned the Rainbow Badge in the Original Kanto Games or the remakes. What did you make of Celadon Gym's layout and design?
Unfortunately, I never played the originals or the remakes, so I can't answer this one.
2. What do you think of it being an All Female Gym? Do you think this was done to fit the character of Erika and/or the character of the Grass Type which is seen as one of the more feminine types.
I think an all-female Gym is a nice idea. It goes to show that us girls can be just a capable/dangerous/skilled as the guys. I don't know Erika's character, so can't answer that part, and I don't quite understand how Grass can be seen a more 'feminine' type. I mean, who could look at a Pokemon like Sceptile, Carnivine, Serperior, Gogoat, Victreebel, Shiftry, Breloom, etc. (there's a lot more for that list, but I think we get the idea) and think "Oh, Grass types are girly." Like all other Pokemon types, some Grass types have a more feminine look to them, but there are plenty of 'masculine' ones too.
3. There is a man stood outside Celadon Gym staring through the window. He infamously states that he loves the Gym as it is 'full of women'. What do you make of his inclusion and the fact his dialogue was changed to 'full of strong trainers' in later games?
To be completely honest on this one, I think that's very creepy, and it's a very good thing the dialogue was changed.
4. In the Kanto Games there are seven Gym Trainers with the most common trainer class being Beauty. Is this too many trainers? Do the trainer classes fit with the character of the Gym?
Okay, so I think I understand what this is asking, but if I don't and end up with an odd answer, I apologize. Anyway, I really enjoy variety, so I don't think there's too many Trainer classes. If you mean 'Are there too many of the Beauty class?' then yes, I believe there are. From what I've seen in other games, Trainer Classes fit very well with their Gym type/design/whatever.
5. There is a glitch in the Red and Blue games where you can effectively solo the Gym (Except Erika's Tangela) with a low level Oddish, Bellsprout or Bulbasaur. Were you aware of this glitch and if so did you exploit it?
Again, never played those games.
6. What do you make of Erika's teams in the Kanto Games? (Tangela, Vileplume, Victreebell in Red and Blue, Tangela, Weepinbell and Gloom in Yellow)
Well... I dunno. She's got a Grass type, then two Grass/Poison types. Not a lot of variety or ways to counter opponents like Fire types. I've never battled Erika, but it sounds as if I could walk in, challenge her with only a Fire type, and walk away victorious (or I could be overconfident, like so many other times I've thought I've had battles in the bag). Then again, this is only Gen. I, so not as many Pokemon around as there are now. Not to mention, I think she's an earlier Gym Leader? Also, all three of those Pokemon, like many other Grass types, have a wide variety of status moves to trip up challengers and make a battle tricky.

Master of Memes January 4th, 2016 12:59 AM

Master of Memes
Roserade
Erika- So elegant ♡

ddrox13 January 4th, 2016 2:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master of Memes (Post 9062542)
Master of Memes
Roserade
Erika- So elegant ♡

I'll assume this is a signup for now, and welcome you to the club in Charmed's place for the time being. Might want to pick an unevolved Grass type as your starter though...

Hope you enjoy your stay in the garden! Go ahead and answer the current pair of topics if you want, they are in nice bold green under the words new topic. One is on the Celadon Gym (it's complicated, look at the post), and one is asking about your "signature" grass type.

Lrachelr5 January 4th, 2016 2:55 PM

Username: LRachelr5
Favorite Pokémon: Bedew
Do you have a signature grass type? What is it? Why?
I would say that my signature grass type is Snivy. When I got back into playing pokemon and played Black I chose Snivy, ture he may have been a very slow pokemon to level up but I loved the design. It got to the point while learning how to breed egg moves on X that I bred myself a 5 IV Snivy that I called Nagini with the egg move Iron Tail, honestly I love her.

Killua January 4th, 2016 3:30 PM

welcome hope you have fun here I cannot chance member list and stuff but feel free to be here until chamed grady comes back

ddrox13 January 4th, 2016 4:32 PM

*goes to reply*
*looks at members viewing this thread*
*decides to reply anyway*

Welcome, Snivy is cute asf and you know it.

Killua January 4th, 2016 4:57 PM

That is me!!!

LilyGardy January 4th, 2016 5:06 PM

I am back from vacation There are some really good answers here and some new members too which are very welcome. :)

Spoiler:
Quote:

Originally Posted by CharmedGardy;9050276[spoiler
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http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/b/bd/Celadon_Gym_RBY.png
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/9/9b/Celadon_Gym_FRLG.png

Following the announcement that the first Generation Games will be released in the New Year. The next topic concerns Celadon Gym.

1. Have you ever earned the Rainbow Badge in the Original Kanto Games or the remakes. What did you make of Celadon Gym's layout and design?

2. What do you think of it being an All Female Gym? Do you think this was done to fit the character of Erika and/or the character of the Grass Type which is seen as one of the more feminine types.

3. There is a man stood outside Celadon Gym staring through the window. He infamously states that he loves the Gym as it is 'full of women'. What do you make of his inclusion and the fact his dialogue was changed to 'full of strong trainers' in later games?

4. In the Kanto Games there are seven Gym Trainers with the most common trainer class being Beauty. Is this too many trainers? Do the trainer classes fit with the character of the Gym?

5. There is a glitch in the Red and Blue games where you can effectively solo the Gym (Except Erika's Tangela) with a low level Oddish, Bellsprout or Bulbasaur. Were you aware of this glitch and if so did you exploit it?

6. What do you make of Erika's teams in the Kanto Games? (Tangela, Vileplume, Victreebell in Red and Blue, Tangela, Weepinbell and Gloom in Yellow)
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1. Yes I have. When I was young my favourite Kanto Gym was Celadon's. I liked how serene and peaceful it looked and the sheer number of trainers was impressive particularly as Erika is a relatively early Gym Leaders.

Whilst not normally a fan of the Cut trees. I like the addition here as it adds to the natural feel of Erika's Gym. I did not notice however that the Gym was in the shape of the female sign until it was pointed out by Ddrox.

2. In the games the Gym Leaders are given little to no character on the whole but Erika having an All Female Gym gave a sense of uniqueness to her Gym. This is even more pronounced in Gen 1 where the Protagonist had to be Male.

The All Female trainers also relate to the Pokemon in the Gym itself including the Flower like Vileplume family. Whilst there are numerous Masculine Grass Types now (Such as Chesnaught and Shiftry) other than maybe Victreebell this was not the case in Gen 1.

Female trainers have a tendency to dislike bugs in the games (And indeed Misty in the anime). This is shown quite starkly by the Paras line being nowhere to be seen in the Kanto Game Celadon Gym where all other Grass Type Families make an appearance. Indeed one trainer in the Gym implies that bug types are not welcome.

3. Not much to say here other than how he got in in the first place in what was a game primarily targeted to children. They had no choice but to change it in later games.

4. It is not too many trainers. For some reason the 4th Gyms occasionally have a lot of trainers. (Flannery has a seeming army in ORAS). Having seven Gym Trainers shows that Erika has the trainers as a circle of friends.

For me the trainer classes fit in with the Gym Character. The Beauty class (Whose Gen 1 Overworld sprites inexplicably have headbands) fit in with the natural beauty of the Gym and Erika's statement that she will only use Pokemon she finds attractive.

Lasses and Picnickers fit in with the Gym too and there is even a Cool Trainer (Now called Ace Trainer) in the Gym. This may well be the first trainer of that class the player faces and they even heal their Pokemon. The presence of an Ace Trainer may show Erika is respected among Kanto trainers.

5. I was aware of this glitch during my Grass Monotype where Erika's Pokemon seemingly threw the match by using Poison Powder over and over on my Gloom. As stated by Ddrox the glitch did not just apply to Erika and this was fixed in the remakes.

6. Erika's RB team - Victreebell - There may have been a glitch in your favour but there were also several oversights here. Victreebell had Wrap which could trap you permanently if you were unlucky, Sleep Powder which had the unfortunate habit of putting you to Sleep, when you wake up - That's your turn and to sleep you go again. And Razor Leaf which had a much higher Critical Hit ratio than it does today.

Tangela - The weak link in Erika's team. Constrict and Bind could be more annoying than anything.

Vileplume - Petal Dance is not the Powerful move it is now and whilst no pushover Victreebell is the true Ace of Erika's team here.

Yellow Team - A clone of her anime side. Whilst having Gloom and Weepinbell may have made it fair for Ash Ketchum who runs with unevolved Pokemon more than the average trainer, it doesn't work for me in game and for me they should have stuck to her RB team.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddrox13 (Post 9056427)
There was some discussion about this earlier, but I'll re-address it here since I' don't think it has been an actual topic before (correct me if i'm wrong)

NEW TOPIC:
Do you have a signature Grass type? What is it? Why?

.

Much as I'd like to say Lilligant, the Flowering Pokemon is simply not available in many games so cannot really be my go to Pokemon.

My current Signature Pokémon is Vileplume. Vileplume was the Ace of my Kanto Grass Monotype team AND my Johto Grass Monotype team and helped me win many battles particularly with Sludge Bomb in Heart Gold. Getting lucky with a Modest nature helped too.

It also learns my favourite Grass-type move Petal Dance. In short Vileplume is a Pokémon that has always served me well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lrachelr5 (Post 9063207)
Username: LRachelr5
Favorite Pokémon: Bedew
Do you have a signature grass type? What is it? Why?
I would say that my signature grass type is Snivy. When I got back into playing pokemon and played Black I chose Snivy, ture he may have been a very slow pokemon to level up but I loved the design. It got to the point while learning how to breed egg moves on X that I bred myself a 5 IV Snivy that I called Nagini with the egg move Iron Tail, honestly I love her.

Welcome to the Club. I have given you a Budew as your first Pokemon for the Scenario Campaign. :)

I had no idea Snivy could learn Iron Tail by breeding. Might need to try that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master of Memes (Post 9062542)
Master of Memes
Roserade
Erika- So elegant ♡

Welcome to the Club. I have given you a Budew. Let me know if you want a different Pokemon instead.

Erika is indeed very elegant as is her Gym in a way.

I will leave the Celadon Gym topic open for a little longer in case anyone else wishes to answer.

Rain T. January 4th, 2016 6:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddrox13 (Post 9056427)
There was some discussion about this earlier, but I'll re-address it here since I' don't think it has been an actual topic before (correct me if i'm wrong)

NEW TOPIC:
Do you have a signature Grass type? What is it? Why?


Ofc, continue to answer the previous topic for prizes and such.

Serperior! Despite there probably being better Grass types, I will always choose this wonderful serpent. Snivy was the first Pokemon I ever got, and I loved how adorable it was. Servine, I thought, was a bit awkward, and I was actually very worried about how the design of the line's final evolution would turn out. Then my Servine evolves and, lo and behold, it's a very regal, majestic, epic looking snake! (Snakes are one of my favorite kinds of animals.) I loved my Serperior to death, even though it sucks in battle because when I first started, I had no idea what EVs were or how Natures could affect stats. XD I was thoroughly upset when I couldn't download whatever it was that allowed one to transfer Pokemon between the B/W/B2/W2 games and the X/Y games, but then OR/AS came out and you can get any of the Unova starters post-game!

....Yeah, that got longer than it needed to. Just gonna stop it here before it turns into a whole story and becomes a pain to read.

Master of Memes January 4th, 2016 7:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharmedGardy (Post 9063344)
I am back from vacation There are some really good answers here and some new members too which are very welcome. :)



1. Yes I have. When I was young my favourite Kanto Gym was Celadon's. I liked how serene and peaceful it looked and the sheer number of trainers was impressive particularly as Erika is a relatively early Gym Leaders.

Whilst not normally a fan of the Cut trees. I like the addition here as it adds to the natural feel of Erika's Gym. I did not notice however that the Gym was in the shape of the female sign until it was pointed out by Ddrox.

2. In the games the Gym Leaders are given little to no character on the whole but Erika having an All Female Gym gave a sense of uniqueness to her Gym. This is even more pronounced in Gen 1 where the Protagonist had to be Male.

The All Female trainers also relate to the Pokemon in the Gym itself including the Flower like Vileplume family. Whilst there are numerous Masculine Grass Types now (Such as Chesnaught and Shiftry) other than maybe Victreebell this was not the case in Gen 1.

Female trainers have a tendency to dislike bugs in the games (And indeed Misty in the anime). This is shown quite starkly by the Paras line being nowhere to be seen in the Kanto Game Celadon Gym where all other Grass Type Families make an appearance. Indeed one trainer in the Gym implies that bug types are not welcome.

3. Not much to say here other than how he got in in the first place in what was a game primarily targeted to children. They had no choice but to change it in later games.

4. It is not too many trainers. For some reason the 4th Gyms occasionally have a lot of trainers. (Flannery has a seeming army in ORAS). Having seven Gym Trainers shows that Erika has the trainers as a circle of friends.

For me the trainer classes fit in with the Gym Character. The Beauty class (Whose Gen 1 Overworld sprites inexplicably have headbands) fit in with the natural beauty of the Gym and Erika's statement that she will only use Pokemon she finds attractive.

Lasses and Picnickers fit in with the Gym too and there is even a Cool Trainer (Now called Ace Trainer) in the Gym. This may well be the first trainer of that class the player faces and they even heal their Pokemon. The presence of an Ace Trainer may show Erika is respected among Kanto trainers.

5. I was aware of this glitch during my Grass Monotype where Erika's Pokemon seemingly threw the match by using Poison Powder over and over on my Gloom. As stated by Ddrox the glitch did not just apply to Erika and this was fixed in the remakes.

6. Erika's RB team - Victreebell - There may have been a glitch in your favour but there were also several oversights here. Victreebell had Wrap which could trap you permanently if you were unlucky, Sleep Powder which had the unfortunate habit of putting you to Sleep, when you wake up - That's your turn and to sleep you go again. And Razor Leaf which had a much higher Critical Hit ratio than it does today.

Tangela - The weak link in Erika's team. Constrict and Bind could be more annoying than anything.

Vileplume - Petal Dance is not the Powerful move it is now and whilst no pushover Victreebell is the true Ace of Erika's team here.

Yellow Team - A clone of her anime side. Whilst having Gloom and Weepinbell may have made it fair for Ash Ketchum who runs with unevolved Pokemon more than the average trainer, it doesn't work for me in game and for me they should have stuck to her RB team.



Much as I'd like to say Lilligant, the Flowering Pokemon is simply not available in many games so cannot really be my go to Pokemon.

My current Signature Pokémon is Vileplume. Vileplume was the Ace of my Kanto Grass Monotype team AND my Johto Grass Monotype team and helped me win many battles particularly with Sludge Bomb in Heart Gold. Getting lucky with a Modest nature helped too.

It also learns my favourite Grass-type move Petal Dance. In short Vileplume is a Pokémon that has always served me well.



Welcome to the Club. I have given you a Budew as your first Pokemon for the Scenario Campaign. :)

I had no idea Snivy could learn Iron Tail by breeding. Might need to try that.



Welcome to the Club. I have given you a Budew. Let me know if you want a different Pokemon instead.
Wait, u mean a Budew gif? Or something else?
Erika is indeed very elegant as is her Gym in a way.

I will leave the Celadon Gym topic open for a little longer in case anyone else wishes to answer.


ddrox13 January 4th, 2016 8:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharmedGardy (Post 9063344)
-snip-
Much as I'd like to say Lilligant, the Flowering Pokemon is simply not available in many games so cannot really be my go to Pokemon.

My current Signature Pokémon is Vileplume. Vileplume was the Ace of my Kanto Grass Monotype team AND my Johto Grass Monotype team and helped me win many battles particularly with Sludge Bomb in Heart Gold. Getting lucky with a Modest nature helped too.

It also learns my favourite Grass-type move Petal Dance. In short Vileplume is a Pokémon that has always served me well.

Vileplume certainly served me well the one time I ended up using it (FR Monograss). and Petal Dance is OP, especially in-game (with switch game mode) and the Choice Specs item (Citation: Roserade nuking an on-level Blastoise that had Light Screen up)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain T. (Post 9063416)
Serperior! Despite there probably being better Grass types, I will always choose this wonderful serpent. Snivy was the first Pokemon I ever got, and I loved how adorable it was. Servine, I thought, was a bit awkward, and I was actually very worried about how the design of the line's final evolution would turn out. Then my Servine evolves and, lo and behold, it's a very regal, majestic, epic looking snake! (Snakes are one of my favorite kinds of animals.) I loved my Serperior to death, even though it sucks in battle because when I first started, I had no idea what EVs were or how Natures could affect stats. XD I was thoroughly upset when I couldn't download whatever it was that allowed one to transfer Pokemon between the B/W/B2/W2 games and the X/Y games, but then OR/AS came out and you can get any of the Unova starters post-game!

....Yeah, that got longer than it needed to. Just gonna stop it here before it turns into a whole story and becomes a pain to read.

As much as I hate reading books, I'm fine with reading paragraph personal narratives about one of the most awesome pokemon in existence. And that stupid Serebii fan fic Adventure of Adventureness, but that is completely different. I will say that Jack (the protagonist) did not take too well to Erika's Gym. If I may:
Spoiler:
"Jack cleared his throat. 'Well, hello, ladies-'
'We all have boyfriends,' one of the girls interrupted.
'Oh,' said Jack, clearly disappointed. 'I'm here for a Gym battle." - Random of Randomness, Ch. 22.


I got off topic again, didn't I... Annnnyway... I really like Serperior too. So majestic and amazing as heck with Contrary. (I have like 6 extra ones if you want one, might even have a couple decent IVs)

LilyGardy January 4th, 2016 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain T. (Post 9063416)
Spoiler:
Serperior! Despite there probably being better Grass types, I will always choose this wonderful serpent. Snivy was the first Pokemon I ever got, and I loved how adorable it was. Servine, I thought, was a bit awkward, and I was actually very worried about how the design of the line's final evolution would turn out. Then my Servine evolves and, lo and behold, it's a very regal, majestic, epic looking snake! (Snakes are one of my favorite kinds of animals.) I loved my Serperior to death, even though it sucks in battle because when I first started, I had no idea what EVs were or how Natures could affect stats. XD I was thoroughly upset when I couldn't download whatever it was that allowed one to transfer Pokemon between the B/W/B2/W2 games and the X/Y games, but then OR/AS came out and you can get any of the Unova starters post-game!

....Yeah, that got longer than it needed to. Just gonna stop it here before it turns into a whole story and becomes a pain to read.



Gen 5 was an excellent Gen for Grass Types with the likes of Whimsicott, Lilligant, Serperior and Ferrothorn. Indeed the only one letting the side down was the Pansage line.

Whilst the Snivy line is not my most used starter my Snivy Sidney impressively soloed Roxie's Poison Type Gym during my Unova Monotype and whilst more of a support player by the time I reached the League was an asset throughout the playthrough.

Serperior does indeed have a majestic design yet surprisingly I prefer his regular colour scheme to his Shiny.

Spoiler:
Quote:

Originally Posted by ddrox13 (Post 9063596)
Vileplume certainly served me well the one time I ended up using it (FR Monograss). and Petal Dance is OP, especially in-game (with switch game mode) and the Choice Specs item (Citation: Roserade nuking an on-level Blastoise that had Light Screen up)


As much as I hate reading books, I'm fine with reading paragraph personal narratives about one of the most awesome pokemon in existence. And that stupid Serebii fan fic Adventure of Adventureness, but that is completely different. I will say that Jack (the protagonist) did not take too well to Erika's Gym. If I may:
Spoiler:
"Jack cleared his throat. 'Well, hello, ladies-'
'We all have boyfriends,' one of the girls interrupted.
'Oh,' said Jack, clearly disappointed. 'I'm here for a Gym battle." - Random of Randomness, Ch. 22.


I got off topic again, didn't I... Annnnyway... I really like Serperior too. So majestic and amazing as heck with Contrary. (I have like 6 extra ones if you want one, might even have a couple decent IVs)



Petal Dance is indeed an Overpowered move in-game particularly with the 120 power it has now. In Gen 1 it had a less impressive 70 power. In my Johto Monotype 3 of my Pokémon have Petal Dance (Meganium, Roserade, Vileplume) and suffice to say if I was a Gym Leader it would be my TM.

In my current Y Monotype I am in Set Mode to up the challenge a little. I feel I may well be opening fire in the Elite Four anyway. The Kalos Elite 4 (Fire, Steel, Dragon, Water) isn't exactly a Murderers Row for a Grass User with a Ludicolo particularly compared to Johto.

Fanfiction can be fun to read. Jack may have grew up to be that old man that hangs around outside Celadon Gym it seems.

@Master of Memes.

After an initial Partner Pokemon is given to you you can evolve them and gain new Pokemon through activity in this thread. Your current Pokemon is Budew, let me know if you want a different unevolved first Pokemon.

New Topic In addition to the current topics

What is your favourite Grass-type Move?

(We have had this topic before but as this club now has several new members it is worth revisiting I feel)

Killua January 5th, 2016 3:09 AM

ok two things 1: Giga Drain 2: with that post my snivy is evolving (also how the whole posts to evolve thing work when i evolve one i go down to zero posts?

Rain T. January 5th, 2016 3:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddrox13 (Post 9063596)
Annnnyway... I really like Serperior too. So majestic and amazing as heck with Contrary. (I have like 6 extra ones if you want one, might even have a couple decent IVs)

I would love to take you up on that offer except my 3DS absolutely refuses to let me connect to internet, find out what my friend code is, or do anything else that would allow me to trade someone without actually meeting them. It sucks.
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Originally Posted by CharmedGardy (Post 9063716)
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Gen 5 was an excellent Gen for Grass Types with the likes of Whimsicott, Lilligant, Serperior and Ferrothorn. Indeed the only one letting the side down was the Pansage line.

Whilst the Snivy line is not my most used starter my Snivy Sidney impressively soloed Roxie's Poison Type Gym during my Unova Monotype and whilst more of a support player by the time I reached the League was an asset throughout the playthrough.

Serperior does indeed have a majestic design yet surprisingly I prefer his regular colour scheme to his Shiny.


In my current Y Monotype I am in Set Mode to up the challenge a little. I feel I may well be opening fire in the Elite Four anyway. The Kalos Elite 4 (Fire, Steel, Dragon, Water) isn't exactly a Murderers Row for a Grass User with a Ludicolo particularly compared to Johto.

New Topic In addition to the current topics

What is your favourite Grass-type Move?

(We have had this topic before but as this club now has several new members it is worth revisiting I feel)

Cilan would quite possibly disagree with you there. {XD} Anyway, I have tried a Ferrothorn on X, Serperior on White, and Simisage on Black, and have two Warriors bonded to a Lilligant on Pokemon Conquest, but I've never done anything with Whimsicott except beat up my opponent's...

I prefer the original colors as well. It's not that I find the shiny to look bad, it's just that I feel the regular is better. Like, dare I mention a Fire type here, Chandelure.

My favorite? It depends on the situation. If the Pokemon's Attack is higher, it's Leaf Blade, but if Sp. Attack is higher, I will always go with Energy Ball. I know they aren't the most powerful Grass attacks, but they both do a solid amount of damage and work better for me than something like Petal Dance or Solar Beam.
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Originally Posted by absol!!! (Post 9063912)
ok two things 1: Giga Drain 2: with that post my snivy is evolving (also how the whole posts to evolve thing work when i evolve one i go down to zero posts?

No, you keep your post count, don't worry. When you have gained enough posts to evolve a Pokemon, simply let Charmed know if you want to evolve it, and she'll do so, and you can keep building on posts from what you already have.

Killua January 5th, 2016 5:20 AM

Thanks!!!

ddrox13 January 5th, 2016 7:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharmedGardy (Post 9063716)
Gen 5 was an excellent Gen for Grass Types with the likes of Whimsicott, Lilligant, Serperior and Ferrothorn. Indeed the only one letting the side down was the Pansage line.
Whilst the Snivy line is not my most used starter my Snivy Sidney impressively soloed Roxie's Poison Type Gym during my Unova Monotype and whilst more of a support player by the time I reached the League was an asset throughout the playthrough.
Serperior does indeed have a majestic design yet surprisingly I prefer his regular colour scheme to his Shiny.
Petal Dance is indeed an Overpowered move in-game particularly with the 120 power it has now. In Gen 1 it had a less impressive 70 power. In my Johto Monotype 3 of my Pokémon have Petal Dance (Meganium, Roserade, Vileplume) and suffice to say if I was a Gym Leader it would be my TM.
In my current Y Monotype I am in Set Mode to up the challenge a little. I feel I may well be opening fire in the Elite Four anyway. The Kalos Elite 4 (Fire, Steel, Dragon, Water) isn't exactly a Murderers Row for a Grass User with a Ludicolo particularly compared to Johto.
Fanfiction can be fun to read. Jack may have grew up to be that old man that hangs around outside Celadon Gym it seems.
New Topic In addition to the current topics

What is your favourite Grass-type Move?

(We have had this topic before but as this club now has several new members it is worth revisiting I feel)

I wasn't the biggest fan of Unova as a whole, but I can't deny that it had a few good pokemon. I have never used a Lilligant (I always played Black/B2), but Ferro, Whimsi, and Serperior are 3 of said awesome pokemon. Chandelure, Galvantula, and Samurott are the others.

Shiny Serp is cool, but regular is cooler. Petal Dance is a nuke. That is all.

Honestly, Drasna is the only threat to a Kalos Monograss if you have a Ludicolo and Gogoat. Wikstrom could annoy you if you don't have an Earthquake user (Venu works too, I think), and Malva is hell without Ludicolo, but Drasna and her stupid Dragalge basically 1v4ed my team. OHKOed my EQ and Ice Beam users. Thankfully she failed to OHKO Abomasnow. who then swept.

As for my favorite Grass type move, I will have to say that there are very few that I tell myself "oh my god this is borken" when I use them. I really like Leech Seed for it's consistant dmg.
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Originally Posted by Rain T. (Post 9063924)
I would love to take you up on that offer except my 3DS absolutely refuses to let me connect to internet, find out what my friend code is, or do anything else that would allow me to trade someone without actually meeting them. It sucks.

Cilan would quite possibly disagree with you there. {XD} Anyway, I have tried a Ferrothorn on X, Serperior on White, and Simisage on Black, and have two Warriors bonded to a Lilligant on Pokemon Conquest, but I've never done anything with Whimsicott except beat up my opponent's...

I prefer the original colors as well. It's not that I find the shiny to look bad, it's just that I feel the regular is better. Like, dare I mention a Fire type here, Chandelure.

Is the wireless switch turned off? That happened to me for like two months.

What was that about Cilan? Pansage is ass, but he is adorable. See the below:
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/4018061/cilan-s-and-pansage-s-evaluation-time-o.gifhttps://45.media.tumblr.com/1a8faffe02488190887429e5dad6d5ae/tumblr_n4gu43R3Sk1rjenv2o1_500.gif

I personally prefer to use Cottonee to Whimsicott on PO, simply because healing to full health from Leech Seed every turn is so awesome.

*GASP* FIRE TYPES IN THE GRASS GARDEN? OUT WITH YE! jk, Chandy is awesome. literally one of 2 half-decent Fire types.

Master of Memes January 5th, 2016 9:15 AM

Petal Dance. Pair it with Safeguard and see what happens

LilyGardy January 5th, 2016 9:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by absol!!! (Post 9063912)
Spoiler:
ok two things 1: Giga Drain 2: with that post my snivy is evolving (also how the whole posts to evolve thing work when i evolve one i go down to zero posts?



I have evolved Snivy into Servine for you.Giga Drain is a great move with very welcome healing properties.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain T. (Post 9063924)
Spoiler:
I would love to take you up on that offer except my 3DS absolutely refuses to let me connect to internet, find out what my friend code is, or do anything else that would allow me to trade someone without actually meeting them. It sucks.

Cilan would quite possibly disagree with you there. {XD} Anyway, I have tried a Ferrothorn on X, Serperior on White, and Simisage on Black, and have two Warriors bonded to a Lilligant on Pokemon Conquest, but I've never done anything with Whimsicott except beat up my opponent's...

I prefer the original colors as well. It's not that I find the shiny to look bad, it's just that I feel the regular is better. Like, dare I mention a Fire type here, Chandelure.

My favorite? It depends on the situation. If the Pokemon's Attack is higher, it's Leaf Blade, but if Sp. Attack is higher, I will always go with Energy Ball. I know they aren't the most powerful Grass attacks, but they both do a solid amount of damage and work better for me than something like Petal Dance or Solar Beam.

No, you keep your post count, don't worry. When you have gained enough posts to evolve a Pokemon, simply let Charmed know if you want to evolve it, and she'll do so, and you can keep building on posts from what you already have.



I have never tried using Simisage although I know he can learn Acrobatics which can be a devastating move if used right. Pansage is very cute but due to the sheer number of great Grass Types has never made my team. I have never played Pokémon Conquest but Whimsicott and Lilligant are great fun to use.

As luck would have it I acquired a Shiny Chandelure. I also prefer the non-shiny variant. It is just more fitting.

Leaf Blade worked surprisingly well on Bellossom with a Swords Dance.

Considering how many of my favourite Grass-types have Chlorophyll as their Ability I have not used Solarbeam extensively... Something I should look into.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddrox13 (Post 9064109)
Spoiler:
I wasn't the biggest fan of Unova as a whole, but I can't deny that it had a few good pokemon. I have never used a Lilligant (I always played Black/B2), but Ferro, Whimsi, and Serperior are 3 of said awesome pokemon. Chandelure, Galvantula, and Samurott are the others.

Shiny Serp is cool, but regular is cooler. Petal Dance is a nuke. That is all.

Honestly, Drasna is the only threat to a Kalos Monograss if you have a Ludicolo and Gogoat. Wikstrom could annoy you if you don't have an Earthquake user (Venu works too, I think), and Malva is hell without Ludicolo, but Drasna and her stupid Dragalge basically 1v4ed my team. OHKOed my EQ and Ice Beam users. Thankfully she failed to OHKO Abomasnow. who then swept.

As for my favorite Grass type move, I will have to say that there are very few that I tell myself "oh my god this is borken" when I use them. I really like Leech Seed for it's consistant dmg.

Is the wireless switch turned off? That happened to me for like two months.

What was that about Cilan? Pansage is ass, but he is adorable. See the below:
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/4018061/cilan-s-and-pansage-s-evaluation-time-o.gifhttps://45.media.tumblr.com/1a8faffe02488190887429e5dad6d5ae/tumblr_n4gu43R3Sk1rjenv2o1_500.gif

I personally prefer to use Cottonee to Whimsicott on PO, simply because healing to full health from Leech Seed every turn is so awesome.

*GASP* FIRE TYPES IN THE GRASS GARDEN? OUT WITH YE! jk, Chandy is awesome. literally one of 2 half-decent Fire types.



With so many Grass Types in Y. The challenge is working out who to make my team up in. I should use Chespin line due to its unique in game typing and being my starter. Using two Starters feels like cheating somewhat so I am not sure if I will include Venusaur. Vileplume will likely get in as will Ludicolo leaving three spots open for the likes of Venusaur, Bellossom, Ferroseed, Victreebell Trevenant and Abomasnow to Contest.

Leech Seed combined with Poison Powder/Toxic can really whittle an opponents HP down quickly.

Those are some adorable Pansage Gifs. :)

Following the Celadon Gym Topic - absol!!!, Rain T and Ddrox all win a Tangela with Ddrox's Tangela having already evolved into a Tangrowth due to having best answer.


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