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Thephantomalien May 5th, 2015 1:36 AM

What do you think about the Mega Evolution's ?
 
Mega Evolution's are starting to come into more and more Pokemon games of late. Personally i think they are pretty cool but aren't really needed that much and it kinda sucks how they can only Mega Evolve once in a fight and then its gone until your next fight. Maybe they could think of a newer and cooler system other than Mega Evolution's; so what other system could they and should they have?

Oblox May 5th, 2015 2:26 AM

I think mega evolutions should be a permanant thing rather than an in battle effect but still only while the mega stone is held.

Give Charizard a mega y stone get evolution animation to mega charizard.

Remove mega stone get new de-volution animation to normal charizard.

Or just choose to permanantly fuse it with the pokemon.

Then to balance it out only allow one mega in a party at a time, although I still think it'd be awesome to have multi mega battles in restricted situations.

Thephantomalien May 5th, 2015 2:59 AM

That actually sounds like it would be really cool to have that, however why not just have a whole other evolution level?

AquaMarine8 May 5th, 2015 11:20 AM

I think the concept of Mega Evolution is really cool. Not gonna lie, at first I didn't really like it, and it took me some getting used to. However, now that I've seen it in-game, it really works well for the series. Plus, finding all of the Mega Stones is fun. :P

Regumika May 5th, 2015 11:55 AM

I think the Mega Evolution concept is good - Finding that extra power/strength when fighting together with someone you're close with. Though I think a use limit should be placed on it though, like PP.

Howmander May 5th, 2015 12:15 PM

Overall I don't like it. If it just made them more powerful (or even just certain aspects more powerful) then it would be perfectly fine, but there's many pokemon that completely change the stats (making it go from a physical attacker to a special attacker, for example) and sometimes giving it an entirely new, unrelated ability making entirely different movesets required to make use of either it's Mega ability or it's non mega ability, so there's numerous pokemon you have to have completely different movesets and EV training and even nature for based solely around whether you will use it's mega ability (and therefore need to mega evolve EVERY time you use it) OR ignore it's mega form and use it solely in it's regular form and therefore never mega evolve it. It's a huge pain and they really should just have made them stronger in whatever they were already strong as already rather than having you need to devise an entire training regimen based just around a temporary evoution.

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Originally Posted by Regumika (Post 8737790)
I think the Mega Evolution concept is good - Finding that extra power/strength when fighting together with someone you're close with. Though I think a use limit should be placed on it though, like PP.

You can only mega evolve 1 pokemon in your entire party (not counting Kyogre or Groudon) and even then you can only mega evolve once per battle, how much more of a limit do you need?

Regumika May 5th, 2015 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Howmander (Post 8737807)
You can only mega evolve 1 pokemon in your entire party (not counting Kyogre or Groudon) and even then you can only mega evolve once per battle, how much more of a limit do you need?

It just doesn't make sense (realistically) to be able to pull out hidden power an infinite amount of times a day (visiting the pokecenter). Which is why I suggested the PP portion, to make it realistic. If you're talking pure mechanical, fine.

Howmander May 5th, 2015 7:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Regumika (Post 8737817)
It just doesn't make sense (realistically) to be able to pull out hidden power an infinite amount of times a day (visiting the pokecenter). Which is why I suggested the PP portion, to make it realistic. If you're talking pure mechanical, fine.

I don't understand your sentence, factoring Pokemon Centers into the equation, you can perform ANY move an infinite number of times in a day by simply refiling your PP every time you go to a pokemon center, take medicine or eat a specific berry, so why is it any different from mega evolution?

Regumika May 5th, 2015 8:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Howmander (Post 8738214)
I don't understand your sentence, factoring Pokemon Centers into the equation, you can perform ANY move an infinite number of times in a day by simply refiling your PP every time you go to a pokemon center, take medicine or eat a specific berry, so why is it any different from mega evolution?

Going to the Pokemon Center is the day (role playing). It's like going to an Inn. You don't sleep at the inn 50 times a day, because that would mean sleeping for 400 hours in a day that you only have 24 hours of. Go ahead and argue that Pokemon Centers are high tech and only takes 10 seconds so you can go get your Pokemon rested 50 times a day.

Howmander May 5th, 2015 8:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Regumika (Post 8738241)
Going to the Pokemon Center is the day (role playing). It's like going to an Inn. You don't sleep at the inn 50 times a day, because that would mean sleeping for 400 hours in a day that you only have 24 hours of. Go ahead and argue that Pokemon Centers are high tech and only takes 10 seconds so you can go get your Pokemon rested 50 times a day.

But in a role playing game, the characters actually go into bed and you see them go to sleep, in Pokemon you hand your pokemon over to Nurse Joy while she heals them and you stand there staring at her while she does it while all the other people in the pokemon center are going about their business talking to each other, buying stuff from the store or trying on clothes, you can't equate your pokemon being healed while you stand there and watch with going to an inn and sleeping for the night. When you take your cat to the the vet to get it's teeth cleaned do you sleep in the vet's office for the night and leave the next morning, or do you do stuff while you're waiting until it's done and then you take it and go on your way for the day?

Megan May 6th, 2015 6:51 AM

I think Megas are an interesting concept that's terrible executed. If the games where easy before they where introduced, putting megas in pretty much broke the game, because now you get an easily obtainable pseudo legendary alongside your boxart legendary for your party. I mean if they give you a mega, you want to use it. Otherwise they would be pretty pointless. They also made the powercreep even worse than before, because of their stats being so high.

And even outside of the ingame story, they provide a lot of restrictions for player who want to battle other people online, because most of those Megas are terribly matchup based.

Nah May 8th, 2015 4:09 AM

I like Mega Evolutions. Particularly Mega Diancie and Mega Metagross. People cry a lot how it's a Digimon rip-off (it's not) and/or how Megas are all broken ass bullshit in competitive play (they're not; not all megas are broken shit like Mega Kang/Mence/Ray/etc, you really can't tell me that Mega Audino or Mega Steelix is broken or anything).

I think that Mega "Evolution" is kinda a poor choice in name though. It's not really the same as regular evolutions in Pokemon (never mind the fact that Pokemon evolution is more akin to irl metamorphosis than irl evolution) since it's a temporary transformation. It's more like a form change than anything else.

But as much as I like megas they kinda need to be more careful with the choice of who gets a mega and what boosts it gets as a mega. Like besides the fact that Mewtwo is popular idk why the hell one of the strongest Pokemon in existence needed TWO megas. Or why they thought that Parental Bond was not at least a slightly ridiculous ability on Mega Kangaskhan. Or what the hell they were smokin' when they made Mega Rektkuza. And then you have the other side of the spectrum, where Mega Banette is underwhelming and Mega Garhomp is arguably worse than regular Garchomp.

Pendraflare May 8th, 2015 5:57 AM

Mega Evolution was not something I liked the idea of at first, but it came to grow on me. It gives quite a few Pokémon cool new ways to be used in battle and made them far more usable and fun. That's one of the big things - it breathes life into a lot of Pokémon that would be quite difficult to use otherwise, such as Beedrill and Lopunny.

destinedjagold May 10th, 2015 9:49 PM

What do I think about Mega Evolution?

I wish it never existed. :(

SiriusAlpha May 13th, 2015 7:09 AM

I think that Mega Evolution made some of them really OP but it's an interesting thing to introduce. I kind of wish that a Mega Stone was a Key Item that you could trade I guess because some were version specific and you only needed it in your backpack for it to react to the whatever-it-is so that it can hold another item but in that case definitely only one per battle.

Sensei_Soriel May 13th, 2015 4:01 PM

As a pokemon gamer who started with X and Y without really delving into past pokemon games, I find it really interesting. Mega evolving is really something you can pull out once even if all your pokemons in your team can achieve mega evolution (I should know, I made such a team in Alpha). Mega evolution is like a trump card. Which pokemon is going to mega evolve? Is it that Charizard the player pulls out? Or that Lucario? Wait, maybe it's that other pokemon almost no one use? And then, there it is, mega evolution! And even with the mega evolution, the battle is still not won. All mega evolution is doing is add to the strategy a player can pull out now. It can be anything from a total bluff to a huge success, including the disapointing failure.

But I still feel Gamefreak should add something, like a gauge that shows the players how much power they have in them before and after mega evolution. Yes, that's exactly it! The player needs to have levels too! Wait, they already incorporated them inside X and Y as friendship levels with pokemons. Then why doesn't the lore feel right here? Here's the only thing that bothers me about mega evolution. Only lvl 3 friendship and over pokemons would be able to mega evolve. This would force players to go into pokemon amie more often. There's a huge bonus to befriending the pokemons more!

Oblox May 14th, 2015 6:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TISSUEPAPERGHOST (Post 8749569)
Although I don't think Charizard and Mewtwo should have two.

I do agree with you but then I strongly dislike both of MewTwo's and love both of Charizards.

Sensei_Soriel May 15th, 2015 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Oblox (Post 8750238)
I do agree with you but then I strongly dislike both of MewTwo's and love both of Charizards.

Wasn't that the opinion of, like, 90% of the pokemon players community?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 16th, 2015 7:16 AM

They are alright. I sometimes wish we could use two Megas...maybe next Gen they'll have a Mega item with more power to do just that xD. Then again...facing Mega Kanga and Mega Blaziken sounds bad...(but with two Megas we could get Mega Minun and Mega Plusle with awesome Double battle boosting (sp Atk? Atk? Speed?) abilities.

TwilightBlade May 17th, 2015 7:30 AM

It took some getting used to. Several mega evolutions could have just been evolutions (Mawile, Sableye, Audino, Banette). Some I find absolutely cool (Absol, Gardevoir, Beedrill, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza). Some I find with uninteresting designs or otherwise unnecessary (Garchomp, Scizor, Alakazam, Gengar). Some I just hate for losing the Pokemon's original charm/traits (Lati twins for different wing structure, Metagross for not looking like a literal tank, Sharpedo for having more yellow star patterns, Aerodactyl for having some unnecessary spikes added everywhere).

So yeah, having all of these mixed feelings made it hard to get used to. Mega evolutions are hit or miss for me. =P

acatfrommars May 27th, 2015 9:58 PM

I remember when the concept was first announced, like many others I was really excited and curious about the new Mega Evolutions. I really like the idea to Mega Evolve Pokemon, and even though they can be cheap in randbats on PS, they are fun and have changed the metagame nonetheless. My favorite Mega Evolution is Charizard X, that is still one badass looking Pokemon.

Shadow X June 9th, 2015 5:38 AM

It would be really interesting if mega stones would evolve permanently like other stones
And it raises stats to an awesome level but if had a couple of moves or signature move given to each pkmn it would make it better

bradleyklaw June 10th, 2015 6:27 PM

Mega Evolutions are a completely genius idea. It added a completely new dynamic to the game, people loved to see Pokemon that they originally wanted to evolve, evolve into a really cool form, and it's actually not that broken. Mega Evolutions are incredible but they have limitations that nerf them somewhat. You can only have one mega evolution in play per battle and you have to hold a mega stone in place of another item. These are great stipulations that make mega evolutions less of a threat, but still extremely viable. Also, it adds another strategic layer into the game because the opponent has to guess which Pokemon is the mega, and you have to figure out which one should be the mega.

There is only one problem with Megas and that is, people will never be satisfied. People will want ALL pokemon to have mega evolutions. The fact that Nintendo picks some Pokemon to have mega evolutions and other pokemon to not, makes it seem like they played favorites. Sure it would probably take tons of time for Nintendo to spend on, but having all of the Pokemon have mega evolutions would've made the game both completely different+more interesting and everyone is happy. Idk maybe thats just me

Hikamaru June 21st, 2015 11:19 PM

What I love about Mega Evolution is that it gives new life to old Pokemon by giving them a super-powered form that can pretty much change the way you can use that Pokemon. They have a big handicap which is holding a Mega Stone so they can't use other items, plus the fact you can only use one at a time helps limit them from being too overpowered.

Also, as Bradley said just above not everyone's fave Pokemon gets a Mega. There tends to be a big process that goes into picking candidates for Mega Evolution, such as balance (but then again Mega Rayquaza became a horribly broken threat to everything) and also what can constitute a good design (Flygon's main reason for lacking a Mega was due to artist's block when it came to design aspect) so it's a very tricky thing to get right.

brygarde June 22nd, 2015 5:10 AM

When Mega Evolutions first came out, I was very much opposed to the idea. I thought it was going to throw off the balance of power in the game and in some ways I really feel it did. If you're battling someone who has a mega on their team, but you don't, it puts you at a disadvantage.

I also feel as though Mega Evolution has been geared towards making the strong, stronger, instead of making Pokemon on the cusp of being competitive or need help to be in a stronger position viable. Like don't get me wrong, some Pokemon like M-Pidgeot, M-Sableye, M-Audino, and M-Lopunny might be used more because of their Megas, but I feel like far more already powerful Pokemon received Megas that, quite frankly, they didn't even really need to be competitive and used.

All of that being said, however, I feel like Megas have grown on me a bit since they came out in XY simply because it's just part of the game now. There's really not much I can do besides accept it and try to use it to my benefit, so that's what I do and try to accomplish. No matter what anyone thinks of Mega Evolution, they're here to stay and we might as well make the most of it. I just hope they decide to make more Megas that will allow a larger range of Pokemon to be used.

(I also accept it because shiny M-Gardevoir looks amazing :P )


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