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Sirfetch’d May 8th, 2015 3:49 AM

Most disappointing Pokemon from Unova
 
Which Unova Pokemon was most disappointing in your eyes? Which designs lacked originality and character?

Emboar May 8th, 2015 3:53 AM

Maractus. It's the most forgettable Pokemon in my opinion.

Sirfetch’d May 8th, 2015 4:00 AM

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Originally Posted by User 101 (Post 8741621)
Maractus. It's the most forgettable Pokemon in my opinion.

I agree it is pretty forgettable, but I like it for some reason. Idk why haha. For me the absolute worst Pokemon ever is Heatmor. It's just so badly designed, forgettable, weak, etc. It's counterpart, Durant is so cool though haha!

Zachella-chan May 8th, 2015 4:31 AM

I'm not really a big fan of Roggenrola. I don't really hate it, but I just find it's design dull, uncreative and not really resembling much of anything.

Hikamaru May 8th, 2015 4:45 AM

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Originally Posted by User 101 (Post 8741621)
Maractus. It's the most forgettable Pokemon in my opinion.

Maractus is quite forgettable but it's so cute at the same time and its abilities are not all that bad

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Originally Posted by Castform (Post 8741623)
For me the absolute worst Pokemon ever is Heatmor. It's just so badly designed, forgettable, weak, etc. It's counterpart, Durant is so cool though haha!

Yeah, I agree. Of the Durant/Heatmor duo I definitely like Durant better, and that's because it actually looks awesome unlike the more derpy and weird Heatmor.

janejane6178 May 9th, 2015 2:58 PM

Throw and Sawk are two of my less favourite Pokemon. (Design wise)

Xebelleon May 9th, 2015 3:22 PM

Larvesta stats being more physical made for some difficulties in its raising to evolve. Manageable yet tedious. Still have a guilty pleasure for Volc' with Harden... Maybe Harden Volc is my disappointment... But then there is the final form for the zebra Pokemon

TwilightBlade May 9th, 2015 3:32 PM

Basculin. I forget it exists. I like Maractus (has cute pink flowers on it). I remember Durant/Heatmor for their rivalry, and Heatmor's actually kind of cool with a flaming tongue. I remember Sawk/Thror. But Basculin... something about it is unremarkable. So what if one has a red stripe and the other has a blue stripe. I feel they introduced such a very small aesthetic change between its forms because by itself, it is uninspiring.

I only noticed its existence because I caught one in Rumble World today.

Sopheria May 9th, 2015 3:40 PM

Alomomora, because when it was first revealed back in Gen 4 I thought for sure it was going to be the evolved form of Luvdisc.

I thought that Maractus was kinda forgettable too, since we already had a cactus Pokemon, it didn't bring anything new to the table. I never really cared for Druddigon's design either--it looks like a really generic dragon.

Also, Unlike most people, I really like Vanillite, I always thought it was adorable, but I was really disappointed with its evolved forms (just a bigger ice cream cone, and a bigger ice cream cone with two heads) and its shiny--they could have done something really interesting with its shiny like make it chocolate or strawberry or something, but it's barely any different from its non-shiny -_-

Overall though I thought Gen 5 gave us some really great Pokemon. But out of 156 new Pokes, there's bound to be at least a few not-so-good ones xD

Qibli May 9th, 2015 11:24 PM

Maractus: Are GF just lazy and add some bunny features on a cactus, I know it's based on RL thing, but this.. this .just

Basculin: The red and green have different abilities (exception on adaptability and it's HA. I was really disappointed in this it's like they add shellos and gastrodon with different color and ability. Why not just 2 different color with one suitable ability (aside the HA and Adaptability.) it makes player choice which is more competitive basculin with a recoil moves best (More power, more hurt thru recoils / no bonus, avoid recoils) it's just meh

Musharama: Are GF blends mother and pokemon here. I'm talking design wise

[email protected] May 27th, 2015 7:05 PM

i hate trubbish design ."a trashbag pokemon" really?.if designer keep making these types of pokemon many we will find pokemon like
vacuum cleaner pokemon or dustbin pokemon

Sydian May 27th, 2015 8:04 PM

Zebstrika and Liepard are huge disappointments for me battle wise. For those that weren't around when I did this, I made it a mission to take every Unova Pokemon through the Elite Four. So I think I have a pretty good grasp of Gen V Pokemon because of it. I raised all my Pokemon from the ground up for that and one of my most unpleasant experiences was Zebstrika. I remember being pretty excited for the Pokemon itself. Awesome Electric zebra Pokemon with a cool design and a cute pre-evolution! And they screwed it up. It was terrible to use in battle and the movepool with its stats was poor choice. I was hugely disappointed.

As for Liepard, it's pretty much the same situation, except it's something I found out sooner than when I started my challenge. I kept a Purrloin with me in the beginning because I'm a cat person and Purrloin is, imo, one of the best designed cat Pokemon. After it evolved, it slowly just became a horror to use and seemingly got weaker each time I tried to use it. I ended up ditching mine pretty quick after that because I just couldn't take it anymore. Near constant fainting was an issue as well. I had to use it again for my challenge after I finished White and it was as unpleasant as it was in the beginning of the game.

BijutsuYoukai June 4th, 2015 8:31 PM

Hands down Stunfisk. His whole design just looks so shoddy and terrible in my opinion.

Gigadweeb June 5th, 2015 1:26 AM

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 8770174)
i hate trubbish design ."a trashbag pokemon" really?.if designer keep making these types of pokemon many we will find pokemon like
vacuum cleaner pokemon or dustbin pokemon

I hate Magnemite's design. "A Magnet Pokémon", really? If the devs keep making these types of Pokémon we will find Pokémon like Sludge Pokémon or Poké Ball Pokémon.

OP: Maractus. Not as unique of a design as Cacnea or Cacturne, worse stats, poor moveset, no irregular/unique typing... kinda boring, to be honest.

MantisboyN June 5th, 2015 10:42 AM

What about Mothim?
I ran into one recently playing a randomized B2 and had no idea what it was.

Sonikkts June 5th, 2015 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MantisboyN (Post 8783459)
What about Mothim?
I ran into one recently playing a randomized B2 and had no idea what it was.

That's Gen IV, evolves from Burmy. It's ironically one of the best Bug/Flying type combinations available to date. I used to go to tournaments a lot in Gen IV and it was there quite a bit. It got nerfed with the introduction of competitively viable Rock types though.

Evening June 6th, 2015 12:18 AM

what if i said jellicent was disappointing?

CJoE June 6th, 2015 5:18 AM

I think Trubbish is kinda uncreative. Just look at it's design, trashbag? It's second evolution looks more terrible.

Somewhere_ June 6th, 2015 1:22 PM

Alomomola. I hate everything about it: the fact is has no pre-evo like luvdisk, its design, its stats, its move pool. Its pain to kill, and when it is almost fainted, it goes right back up because of wish. It is super annoying and I wish the pokemon war wiped it out of existence.

On the contrary, however, I like maractus. It is cute and cuddly- oh wait never mind. But I liked the maractuses in the anime.

Sonikkts June 6th, 2015 1:34 PM

Not sure why the hatred of Maractus is so profound, I love it. It can be used in several ways but my favourite is Storm Drain + Big Root + Giga Drain. It's hidden ability in Gen V is a little difficult to obtain now however.

My vote goes to Basculin though for most disappointing. Never really found myself wanting to use it.

Weedy Speedy June 6th, 2015 10:04 PM

Disappointing to me means trying to add a Pokemon to my team and it not bring able to pull its weight as much as I expect. So, Pawniard and Golurk hit those points for me with Black/White. Tried using both and ended up having to drop both.

SassyBeartic June 10th, 2015 10:57 AM

Ever heard of Gothita? I dislike baby Pokemon, and also it just looks stupid.

outchea oliver June 17th, 2015 2:48 PM

munna

KronicK June 19th, 2015 9:23 PM

I agree with a lot of people that Maractus was forgettable but I personally was most disappointed with swoobat. Woobat was alright and then it evolved into just a meh design.

Oakesy June 22nd, 2015 3:09 PM

I think Trubbish is pretty bad to be honest. A trash bag? Come on!

Dedenne1 June 22nd, 2015 6:22 PM

Im not gonna lie although maractus and alomola come to mind stunfisk was way baddddddd i mean just no i hope they try to make a better ground and electric type eventually.

Torshavn June 23rd, 2015 12:58 PM

Design-wise, Emboar, Cryogonal, Klinklang, Thundurus, Tornadus, Landorus (in their Incarnate Formes) and Garbodor could make a grown man cry from their sheer ugliness.

As for stats, moves, etc. (basically Pokémon's worth in a battle), I don't like the elemental monkeys (sorry, I just can't see anyone using them after being done with the Striaton Gym), Archeops because of its terrible ability, and Stunfisk.

Zorua being event-exclusive was very disappointing. That was a huge letdown, especially after how much Game Freak tried to market Zorua and Zoroark... they were the first Gen V Pokémon to be revealed to the public, for crying out loud.

And while this doesn't affect my opinion of this Pokémon, I felt a bit cheated when I found out Terrakion isn't a Ground-type... it's a Rock/Fighting-type. That's a deceiving name you have there, Terrakion.

Bellsprout June 29th, 2015 10:26 AM

Design weighs heavily in my eyes. I can deal with ugly, but Unova churned out a lot of Pokemon there were downright dumb looking so I'm probably going to name a couple big offenders for me.

My first big disappointment was Emboar. I was all for Tepig, but the end design was really discouraging. I think I would of been okay with it if it didn't keep the fire/fighting theme. If you're going to do something like that right after the last two you gotta make it better than the last two...

Conkeldurr and Seismitoad. I put them together because I think they're my two biggest disappointments. They're so ugly I can't bare to use them. I'm annoyed at their existence.

Basculin... why

Vanilluxe line I don't need to explain

there are others but these really bother me

Saint Sophie July 2nd, 2015 7:51 AM

I can't stand Stunfisk and Trubbish. I've never really thought much about Alomomola and Maractus; the latter is pretty cute though. It's a shame Alomomola didn't evolve from Luvdisc, though.
I'm not mad keen on Gothitelle at all; I had one once and found it really disappointing.
Basculin would be MUCH better if it had an evolution.

Palkia July 7th, 2015 2:17 PM

All of them
Most of the pokémon that were trying to replace older versions of pokémon (Patrat with Ratatta for example) were incredibly weak visually and in battle. This happens every generation but it was most disappointing here as Gen V was meant to be a "reboot" for the series yet with pokémon this bland and uninteresting it made the pokémon look like knock-offs of already existing pokémon.

VillageofDragons July 7th, 2015 9:38 PM

You know it's funny because people have made multiple videos on Youtube showcasing how over half of the Pokemon introduced in Gen 5 are just copouts of the Pokemon from the first generation, yet you don't see people bashing generation 1 on how dumb some of the designs are. Granted there are some good designs in Gen 5 (Hydreigon for example, it's original... cough cough), but most of them are plain copies from generation 1. Go look up a video about it if you don't believe me.

My least favorite Pokemon from gen 5 though has to be Watchog. Especially in Black and White when the 2nd gym leader's Pokemon levels are really high compared to the first gym, and Watchog is really annoying unless your Pokemon are trained well.

Hikamaru August 25th, 2015 2:02 PM

I was particularly not a fan of Alomomola and Accelgor as far as battling capabilities go. The former has too much HP to the point that it drained so much out of everything else, and Accelgor is something I feel like cannot hit hard or take a hit well enough because it's far too focused on Speed, making it even worse than its counterpart Escavalier.

Khoshi August 25th, 2015 2:29 PM

I don't even know why Stunfisk exists. I know people like it, but usually for memetic reasons and not for a true appreciation of the Pokemon. It's an awful Ground/Electric type with "eh" stats. I'll give it merit for having a pretty good movepool, but that's where the good bits end. It only exists to be laughed at.

Sun August 25th, 2015 10:54 PM

My disappointments are stat wise related stuff.

Galvantula should have a higher defensive stats, at least 80 for each, as well as higher speed and Special Attack. It's a Pokémon with potential.

I'm totally surprised when Beartic couldn't learn the move Earthquake, but hey at least it learns a few Water-type moves and Rock Slide.

Darmanitan's should be able to learn Thunder Punch as a move tutor and other moves that its Sheer Force Ability can take advantage of. Those defensive stats aren't something to be proud of, either.

Vanilluxe, I don't hate its design like most people here. It's its limited movepool that makes me dislike it. Those stats aren't so bad at all, such wasted potential.

Unova starters, they all look cool. However, their movepools and stats aren't impressive. It can be better than what they have right now.

Winter August 25th, 2015 11:16 PM

A bunch of y'all really like ripping out trash bags, cacti, ice cream and whatnot. :| Civilization must really suck for y'all.

Design wise, Heatmor was truly underwhelming. In terms of battling prowess, Klinklang was a missed-out opportunity to have odd-looking Pokemon kick butt, especially when it had Gear Grind. Well, it grinds my gears knowing that those overrated over-the-top fan-pandering Pokemon can knock it out cleanly and proceeded to laugh at its "ugliness".

I just wanna call out Golurk, Mienshao and Bisharp for having obnoxiously high evolution levels. Off-putting really. Other than that, I've nothing to nitpick on them; they just got undermined by poor gameplay developers. (At the risk of sounding cliche, Archeops falls into the same boat.) .-.

KorpiklaaniVodka August 25th, 2015 11:43 PM

I'll say Jellicent and Chandelure. They are good, but have almost no reason to be used over Cofagrigus.

Heatmor... you all know why. It's forgettable, kinda weak, and is a failure when put next to Durant.

Klinklang has zero movepool, otherwise it could have been really good, what with Shift Gear, Gear Grind and Wild Charge.

And don't laugh at Stunfisk, it can really mess with your opponent's Flying-types, having really high defenses and a decent special attack.

Sirfetch’d August 26th, 2015 7:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 8904346)
I was particularly not a fan of Alomomola and Accelgor as far as battling capabilities go. The former has too much HP to the point that it drained so much out of everything else, and Accelgor is something I feel like cannot hit hard or take a hit well enough because it's far too focused on Speed, making it even worse than its counterpart Escavalier.

I don't like Accelgor or Escavalier due to their ridiculous evolution methods. It's really not worth the trouble to get them. I kinda like Alomamola though. It's a really good defensive Pokemon that can spread Scald burns well. It can also support with high HP wishes.

jessluvstolaugh August 26th, 2015 8:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Achromatic (Post 8771168)
Basculin is one that comes to mind. It could have had a cool evolution, but nope. Not sure why.

Then we've got Alomomola, which looked like an evolved form of Luvdisc...nope. Just its own Pokémon. Felt like a lot of potential wasted to me. :(

Are you a mind reader? Because that is exactly what I was going to say lol. XD

Pendraflare August 27th, 2015 4:05 AM

I think Klinklang is one that had a lot of potential, what with it being the only holder of a move that boosts Speed by two stages plus an Attack boost...and yet, it gets almost nothing to use it with except Return, Gear Grind and (as of B2W2) Wild Charge. And Rock Smash. Would've been better if it got Rock Slide, or if literally nothing else Rock Tomb.

Bellsprout August 27th, 2015 10:17 PM

there are worse offenders imo but im going to say the tepig line, because it didn't start bad but then crashed hard. initially when the starters were revealed tepig was my favorite. it had so much potential to be good, but then took the same route as blaziken and infernape which at that point didn't need to be done again. honestly if they were going to make another fire/fighting pokemon after two very good ones they would have had to make it even better to be passable and instead it's the worst of the three.

Pendraflare August 31st, 2015 3:29 PM

Yeah, the Tepig line has its not fans but i'm not one of them. Sometimes I feel sorry for the poor thing...

However, one other I will mention is Heatmor. Its stats are not that great, and it doesn't have much to stand out from other Fire-types along with not a lot of moves to use. A disappointing Pokémon, but I guess it has Flash Fire, if literally nothing else. Although it is amusing that you can sometimes find them with Durant hordes in XY.

Starry Windy September 1st, 2015 12:55 AM

Sorry, but I'm not quite a big fan of Archen lines. The design is okay, but its ability (Defeatist) makes it kind of a letdown since it makes Archen lines more useless on brink situations.

Raffel September 1st, 2015 2:25 PM

Garbodor, it is basically a worst version and a copy of Swalot and Muk.

Hikamaru September 1st, 2015 5:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Raffel (Post 8913086)
Garbodor, it is basically a worst version and a copy of Swalot and Muk.

I can understand here a lot, because its stats are wonky and it doesn't get any decently good physical STAB except for Gunk Shot. But it does learn some odd special attacks here and there, such as Focus Blast, Thunderbolt and even Psychic.

Plus, its defensive capabilities aren't too shabby. Just watch Marriland and a certain Garbodor he had in a Wedlocke series of his and it was a true late-game star of the team.

PageEmp September 3rd, 2015 7:10 AM

I already talked about my least favourite mon from this gen on another thread, and since this one uses the term 'disappointing' and some others talked about underwhelming mons, I will just share my own.

I might want to document this Nuzlocke, so spoilers.
Spoiler:

My Darumaka in my Black run. Just one word: HUSTLE. I'm not good with bad accuracy, so you should know what I mean. She took much higher to level up compared to my other teammates, and she nearly died against the rival's Pansage. How is it possible? Fire punch missed until it got 1PP left, and then it finally hit. Because of that battle I just gave up on her. But much later, before the 6th gym, I was like "y'know, hustle basically disappears at Darmanitan stage, why not grind, evolve her, and se what happens? Boom, wild Zebstrika used crit.


And speaking of Zebstrika, I wholeheartedly disagree with anybody who said it was bad in this thread. I did not have a problem with it at ALL. I added mine to my team for electric coverage, and he, well wasn't bad. I mean, I boxed him and brought him back and boxed him and brought him back, but overall it just isn't bad. Mine was fast and heavy-hitting enough to completely ignore the fraility, and got the job done pretty well. He did the least amount of work at the league sadly, but still.

KelvinAsian September 4th, 2015 5:39 AM

To be honest, I can't really enjoy any pokemon from Unova, I always keep in my mind that Pokemon from Gen 1 and Gen 2 are the best :(

DraconianWing September 5th, 2015 8:33 PM

Druddigon and Heatmor. In my eyes they don't seem to have anything unique or noteworthy going on for them. Both are mediocre in terms of stats and become useless late-game, so they are easily outclassed by other Pokemon of the same respective types; this isn't helped by the fact that they don't evolve into anything.

Granzen September 6th, 2015 7:14 AM

Alomomola, Basculin, Druddigon, Heatmor and Maractus really forgettable.

Hikamaru September 6th, 2015 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KelvinAsian (Post 8915763)
To be honest, I can't really enjoy any pokemon from Unova, I always keep in my mind that Pokemon from Gen 1 and Gen 2 are the best :(

I understand this because so many people have been disappointed with 5th Gen as a whole, and also tend to let nostalgic connection towards older games play a huge factor in that as well.

Sylphiel September 7th, 2015 11:35 AM

I'm taking a look at a list of Unova pokemon right now, and I can't truthfully say that there are any that really disappoint me...

...Okay, except maybe Basculin. It's just...kind of there. It's never been all that appealing to me design-wise, and it's basically just another fish. :( Not even that interesting of a fish imo. Yes, I even like Alomomola who is already very reminiscent of Luvdisc more than I do Basculin!

Aether September 7th, 2015 7:58 PM

Swoobat ended up being pretty meh. I was hoping Woobat would become a cool Pokemon like Crobat but nope. Heart Stamp is a pretty useless attack too.

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Originally Posted by Sylphiel (Post 8919460)

...Okay, except maybe Basculin. It's just...kind of there. It's never been all that appealing to me design-wise, and it's basically just another fish. :( Not even that interesting of a fish imo. Yes, I even like Alomomola who is already very reminiscent of Luvdisc more than I do Basculin!

Agreed. In fact its most defining feature seems to be the fact you can choose whether you'd like your Basculin to have squinty eyes or not.

Bounsweet September 7th, 2015 8:06 PM

Patrat line, Basculin, Klink line, Tynamo line, Shelmet line, Golett line... needless to say, I'm not that impressed with Unova's Pokémon.

Shukawariosenpai September 9th, 2015 6:09 PM

Trubbish and Garbodor take the cake for me.

TheKojo September 10th, 2015 7:42 PM

Samurott. Too different from Dewott for my liking. But honestly I was disappointed with all the starters in some way.

Sothis September 11th, 2015 4:06 AM

I actually cannot stand Durant. It creeps me out and they are everywhere, I am sick of running into Durant, please save me.
Throh and Sawk are kinda :/ and Basculin is double :/ though it's neat it has two formes.

mjb8910 September 17th, 2015 2:12 PM

I didn't like Galvantula in Gen 5 but once Sticky Web came around in Gen 6 it totally redeemed Galvantula for me. Not a fan of the elemental monkeys although I like the design of Simisage the best. Not a fan of the Swords of Justice trio especially Virizion.

MechaGladiator October 1st, 2015 6:18 PM

Most of Unova's Pokémon disappointed me in some way, whether it be their design or over all abilities. But, the worst of the worst for me are as follows. The Garbordor line, Liepard line, Stunfisk, Tympole, Swoobat, Basculin, Gothetelle line, Amoongus, Alomomola, Vullaby, and Larvesta. With the exception of the Liepard line, the primary reason behind being listed was because of their poor design and underwhelming impression. The Liepard line was the only one I invested time into actually training before learning about its less than stellar performance for long term battling. Design wise, Stunfisk, Tympole, and Alomomola are at the top of my least favorite designs. Stunfisk looks creepy, especially when the animated sprite causes it to smile... And Tympole being a tadpole with a human looking face is not much better lol.


Larvesta was a unique case. Upon playing Black for the first time and getting the egg, I was thinking it'd be like the previous times where you'd get a Togepi. So, when the egg finally hatched, there were no words to describe how I felt upon seeing Larvesta XD.

SlytherinRayquaza October 3rd, 2015 7:05 AM

I'm going to say Basculin too. It didn't have any special appeal like Feebas or Magikarp, it was just... there. Doing nothing.

I'm very pleased with most of the fifth generation designs.

NocturnLeader October 3rd, 2015 8:29 AM

Top 5:

5. Rufflet - Ok I like when it Evolves but it should evolved at Level 30 not 54! Way too Long to evolve this Pokemon.
4. Bouffalant - More like a Female Tauros with from the 80s!
3. Durant - It was a cool concept until you realize that one Fire move and its Done!
2. Maractus - Its Like a Female Cacturn. Did we need this???
1. Basculin - Should of had an Evolve form, its cool but Meh.

KillerTyphlosion October 3rd, 2015 11:02 AM

Pretty much all the starters design wise I like the first forms. But I didn't like it that servine turns into a snake with no legs or hands. Or dewot evolving in something that stands on 4 legs. I mean a Pokemon standing on 2 legs could really have that cool samurai look with those shell swords in hand but NOO it had to stand on 4 legs. Also the evolutions of tepig. Fire and fighting again? I mean how do you evolve and lose limbs or your arms become an other pair of legs. I mean from a pokémon on 4 legs to a more humanoid look you could call that evolution, but a humanoid back to a animal form I find that stupid.

Biogoji October 3rd, 2015 6:54 PM

Alomomora can **** right off.

Otamajakushi October 6th, 2015 9:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Biogoji (Post 8953010)
Alomomora can **** right off.

Kind of makes me think of Aloh Hamora. Just what are you trying to unlock???

I'm honestly having a hard time finding anything bad to say about any Gen 5 Pokemon. I may not have been as excited for Gen 5 as a whole, but it sure as heck had some amazing Pokemon. My least favorites would have to be the Starters and the Genies. Both of which played a role in me not considering Gen 5 to be higher on my list of favorite Generations.

Crystal Berry October 6th, 2015 5:25 PM

Maractus. It would be much better if its stats were higher, but its only decent stat is its special attack. Its movepool and ability are fine though.


Sydian October 6th, 2015 9:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Otamajakushi (Post 8956334)
Kind of makes me think of Aloh Hamora. Just what are you trying to unlock???

Let's all just stop to appreciate this. Like nothing else needs to be said. lol

Sebastian_Sommer October 6th, 2015 11:43 PM

Personally, I'm disappointed with the three elemental monkeys Simisage, Simipour and Simisear. Something about their designs makes me want to ignore them and replace them with another pokemon of the same typing.

SaniOKh October 9th, 2015 12:22 PM

As much as I love Gen 5 Pokémon to the point where I'd take the Gen 5 lineup over the Gen 1 lineup any day, I have to agree about the elemental monkeys. I've often criticized Gen 1 for basically copy-pasting the Nidoran line, and IMHO despite having different types, the elemental monkeys aren't much better. Besides, we already had a fire monkey before (Chimchar) , so there's another level to the copy-paste accusation :) .

Some of the one-stage Pokémon are, IMHO, just there and aren't particularly interesting, such as Druddigon, Basculin, Maractus, Throh and Sawk, as well as the Pokémon I hate almost as much as I hate Pikachu: Stunfisk.

rty1001 October 10th, 2015 1:50 PM

The two ****ing ice cream scoops and the geared ass mothers ****ers thats who

Ryz October 10th, 2015 3:54 PM

All three starters for me.... Thats why I never play Gen 5 anymore... I played it like crap until Gen 6 came out. Both BW and BW2 are in a drawer in my room. Haven't touched them since XY came out. The only starter I find half way appealing is the Snivy line. Thats tell a little disappointing for me.

Nolafus October 10th, 2015 10:27 PM

I'm going to have to say Zebstrika. I had high hopes for this guy. I liked the design, its movepool isn't completely awful, but they put the stats in the wrong place. Its physical movepool is very limited, and it suffers the same fate as Luxray. I still used it until the end simply for the design, but I wanted it to be so much more powerful instead of underwhelming.

Sydian October 10th, 2015 11:57 PM

I really love gen V and it's definitely up there in terms of my favorite Pokemon designs...and almost everything else. I did a long challenge in my White where I raised every Unova Pokemon and took them to the Elite Four and Champion to make it into the Hall of Fame. While I really enjoyed most of my teammates, there were some that came out disappointing, so here are those:

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While I felt the first stage starters were all amazing looking and promising, their final stages were anything but. I like the designs of Serperior and Emboar, but Samurott really disappoints me there. He just looks...rather odd and idk how he stands like that. Looks uncomfortable! But I found all three of them to be a bit eh in battle. I didn't find them all that fun or interesting to use. Emboar is best if you want someone to plow with for a bit and Serperior is a bit more fun in BW2 with Aqua Tail, but Samurott...sorry, buddy. :( All of them are just mediocre to me.

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Beautiful Pokemon, boring execution. Dark leopard could have been so much better and fun to use. It doesn't get much to play with and its stats are like pee pee. I know it's a beginning route Pokemon, but even Stoutland can do some things. Come on, kitty.

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It's a lazy spiky boring dragon. :( I don't know what else I can say about it. I didn't have fun using it, I don't have fun looking at it, and I don't like thinking about it. It's just very bland and sticks out by being one of the most bland, if not the most, of the Unova bunch to me.

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This monstrosity...ugh. So this is a hella cool design, I won't deny that. I was super excited for this Pokemon because badass electric zebra! Honestly, who wasn't pumped for this Pokemon? Sadly, it didn't get a hugely varied movepool and just wasn't all that fun to play with. It also has a cry that could make Satan wish he didn't have ears. But my biggest problem with Zebstrika, and it's all personal, is when I found rule 34 of it with Elesa. I've hated this Pokemon ever since and it dethroned my previous least favorite Pokemon by a landslide. Yes, I'm aware there's rule 34 of everything, even my faves, but I haven't seen it. And I don't intend to. My tumblr filters are ON.

For what it's worth, I don't hate any of these Pokemon (well, one exception here) and they have some good qualities, but these are just the ones that really disappointed me when I got around to using them after being hype over them.

PageEmp October 12th, 2015 3:12 AM

Great mor Zebstrika haters.... :(

Adn HOW could I forget the Yamask line!? I don't have a clue why people have success with them. I tried using it in a run. It literally has no moves! At the point you can get one, it can only learn it's primary attacking move, which is a ghost attack with garbage PP and meh power. And it has a terrible TM movepool too. Mine could only learn... Return. Which works off a total trash attack. And with Minccinos, Liepards, Herdiers, Sandiles and EVEN Audinos running around, get prepared for some shitstorm. So if you plan to train a Yamask, I'm inferring you'd do it because 1. You have never used it before, 2. You want to make things more challenging, or 3. You're just a hipster. At least Darumaka can do something.

myystogan October 17th, 2015 3:02 PM

Overall I think the 5th generation Pokemon are great, but imo these are the ones with underwhelming designs-

- Fully Evolved Starters
I doubt I need to elaborate, but... Serperior has no arms (lol), Emboar looks meh, and Samurott is ugly af. Honestly.
- Stoutland
Its design just doesn't look that creative at all.
- Stunfisk
Oh look, it's the new Magikarp.
- Durant and Heatmor
The former is simply boring, and the latter is.., weird-looking, for a lack of a better explanation. I'm not a fan of what it has going on down there, and its face isn't all that great either :-/

TheWishmkr October 18th, 2015 3:47 PM

I quite like all of the Unova pokemon. I don't really know much about the stats so I'll just comment on the design of one in particular.
I think Munna/Musharna look odd, like an embryo or something it's really quite off-putting :\

Hikamaru October 19th, 2015 11:32 AM

I find it so sad to hear my fave starters in the series (at least design-wise) getting so much hate due to "awkward" designs or stats. People claim Serperior has no arms but it actually does have some short leaf arms if you look carefully, but the comments about Samurott are what I don't get. The most I hear complained about it is that it's too different from the other two, but then again we all know there's one "oddball" when it comes to a starter trio.

I think the design of Samurott is not that awful, it's actually very interesting and totally unexpected for a starter and I like it when something comes out not the way most would normally expect it to become.

ElCabron October 22nd, 2015 4:51 AM

I for one love Samurott. And I don't find odd. To be honest, I find almost the whole Unova to be differently pleasing.
My disappointments come from stats, typing, and movesets. If anything, my issues are movesets. Cryogonal and Klingklang should've been way better because they're so darn cool and yet almost tiring to use. You have to make your team based on them to use it effectively. Not nice.

Hikamaru November 2nd, 2015 2:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nolafus (Post 8961775)
I'm going to have to say Zebstrika. I had high hopes for this guy. I liked the design, its movepool isn't completely awful, but they put the stats in the wrong place. Its physical movepool is very limited, and it suffers the same fate as Luxray. I still used it until the end simply for the design, but I wanted it to be so much more powerful instead of underwhelming.

That is what I agree with. While I did use Zebstrika for a while in my first Black playthrough, it was kinda annoying to learn it was mainly meant to use physical attacks yet physical STAB was terrible, only having access to a weak powered attack (Spark) and one that causes recoil (Wild Charge). At least its Special Attack wasn't too bad so you could get by with special moves if you need to.


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