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Juxapose May 8th, 2015 6:51 PM

Your most hated move
 
So, what move, build, or ability do you just absolutely hate?

Really, I just hate anything gimmicky that you need something very specific to counter. But nothing grinds my gears than someone who uses the move Substitute. I hate substitute. It gives me nothing but crap! All I want to do is beat the living daylights out of my opponent's Pokemon. But NO! Substutute! Then that player feels free to spam that skill for god knows how long dragging the battle on and on and on hoping that you'll get bored and just quit. Then they have the nerve to try to put you to sleep dragging the battle for even longer.

I know that some people like battles to have 50+ turns. But I absolutely hate it. What makes matters worse is that my oppoonent ends up losing anyway. . . . WHAT THE PSYDUCK WAS THE POINT???????? You didn't even win? You just wasted my fricken time when I could have played 3-4 other rounds? You had the darn nerve to spam Substitute, and you weren't even good at it. *Sigh*

Check out this battle:
8R4W-WWWW-WW2WG3LX

Let me share some advice about Sub:

Sub Spammers are Noobs
If you are gonna spam subs, don't be predictable
If you are going to spam sub, don't do it in front of a Pokemon with the ability Pressure. Are you fricking retarded? Do you need a fricken cat scan or something?

Okay, rant over. What is your most hated Move, ability, or gimmicky build?

Sirfetch’d May 8th, 2015 7:37 PM

Scald because it's a broken move.

Bidoof FTW May 8th, 2015 7:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juxapose (Post 8742602)
If you are going to spam sub, don't do it in front of a Pokemon with the ability Pressure. Are you fricking retarded? Do you need a fricken cat scan or something?

>stays in long enough to allow sub user to use sub 8 times.
>calls sub user retarded

May I call Scald, Knock Off, and Lando-T to the stand?

Detox May 8th, 2015 7:55 PM

- Scald
- Knock Off
- Pixelate
- Shadow Tag

punkysaur May 8th, 2015 8:37 PM

I hate ferrothorn!
I hate it more when my fire type gets killed.
#hate ferrothorn

KorpiklaaniVodka May 8th, 2015 9:09 PM

Fucking Focus Blast. Its 70% accuracy can really screw you over considering so many Pokemon need it. I also hate Scald because of its stupid burn rate.

skyburial May 8th, 2015 9:11 PM

- Rock Slide
- Fake Out
- Encore
- Rock Slide

PlatinumDude May 8th, 2015 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juxapose (Post 8742602)
So, what move, build, or ability do you just absolutely hate?

Really, I just hate anything gimmicky that you need something very specific to counter. But nothing grinds my gears than someone who uses the move Substitute. I hate substitute. It gives me nothing but crap! All I want to do is beat the living daylights out of my opponent's Pokemon. But NO! Substutute! Then that player feels free to spam that skill for god knows how long dragging the battle on and on and on hoping that you'll get bored and just quit. Then they have the nerve to try to put you to sleep dragging the battle for even longer.

I know that some people like battles to have 50+ turns. But I absolutely hate it. What makes matters worse is that my oppoonent ends up losing anyway. . . . WHAT THE PSYDUCK WAS THE POINT???????? You didn't even win? You just wasted my fricken time when I could have played 3-4 other rounds? You had the darn nerve to spam Substitute, and you weren't even good at it. *Sigh*

Check out this battle:
8R4W-WWWW-WW2WG3LX

Let me share some advice about Sub:

Sub Spammers are Noobs
If you are gonna spam subs, don't be predictable
If you are going to spam sub, don't do it in front of a Pokemon with the ability Pressure. Are you fricking retarded? Do you need a fricken cat scan or something?

Okay, rant over. What is your most hated Move, ability, or gimmicky build?

Pressure doesn't affect Substitute because it only affects moves that specifically target the Pressure user itself.

Anyway, one of my most hated moves is Thunder Wave coming from Prankster Thundurus. As an offensive player, my mojo gets thrown off when one of my fast attackers gets crippled.

Khaotic Kebab May 9th, 2015 1:04 AM

If I'm using a move, it's gotta be Focus Blast. It misses way too much to provide reliable coverage.

If I'm up against a move, it's gotta be Pixilated Hyper Voice, Scald, anything that inflicts status, or hazards.

Juxapose May 9th, 2015 4:06 AM

Quote:

Pressure doesn't affect Substitute because it only affects moves that specifically target the Pressure user itself.
Meh, didn't know that considering the ability's description says:

Quote:

The Pokemon raises opposing Pokemon's PP usage.
Nothing about the description says that it only affects the moves that target the opponent.

Centipede Chan May 9th, 2015 4:08 AM

Swagger. It pisses me off more than ever. It's nice to get an attack boost and all but I am very unlucky when it comes to confusion. VERY unlucky.

Zeffy May 9th, 2015 4:46 AM

Scald can fuck right off along with its other broken brethren, Shadow Tag, full paralysis, and Swagger.

Simple Dragon May 9th, 2015 4:52 AM

Protect in combination with toxic and wish.Damn it.I hate that move in general,but when used in this combination it can make me rage quit the battle.

2Fruit May 9th, 2015 5:29 AM

The move I have the most trouble dealing with is magic coat. It doesn't come up often, and it sometimes fails, but when it works, it can be a game changer.

Magic bounce reflects status moves like willow wisp, thunder wave, stealth rock, probably roar, and toxic.

dr4g0nfru1t May 11th, 2015 5:36 PM

Zapdos with HP Ice, Roost, Thunderbolt, Fire Blast.

rob_thijs May 11th, 2015 7:05 PM

Anything that is luck based so I say:

- All confusion moves (confuse ray, swagger, flatter etc.)
- Evasion moves
- Critical hits in general
- Focus Miss is probably my most hated move ever cause some pokémon really need it but can't use it well cause of the poor accuracy

Majestic Electric May 12th, 2015 5:38 AM

I second Evasion moves, specifically Double Team. It's extremely unfair and annoying when you can't even land a single hit on the opponent.

Anti May 12th, 2015 7:06 AM

has already been said, but scald is ridiculous. a 100% accurate 80 base power move is already nice, and burn on its own is really nice (that's why people will use the notoriously inaccurate will-o-wisp, after all), so combining both into one move is just ridiculous. i liked karpman's description that it messes up the balance of the type chart. people often bring up lava plume and discharge, but fire-types double as will-o-wisp absorbers, and they resist lava plume. they are weak to scald. as for discharge, electric- and ground-types offer great ways to take BOTH the attack AND the secondary effect. very few pokemon exist that can take scald as a water attack and deal with the burn. it also has a ton of low opportunity cost abusers like slowbro (and slowbro-mega), keldeo, manaphy, keldeo, and keldeo. it's the worst.

honorable mentions to knock off, u-turn, and v-create.

Polar Spectrum May 16th, 2015 9:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syn (Post 8742683)
- Scald
- Knock Off
- Pixelate
- Shadow Tag

I know the thread says "most hated move" not ability - but I have to second pixellate. If it just converted normal to fairy, I don't think I'd mind as much - but normal to fairy, and +30% power (Fairly certain it's +30% power) is just crazy, and moreso with pixellate than aerialate or other things - because there IS NO 4 X FAIRY RESIST outside heatran. And I don't like where that puts Heatran. Or pixellate abusers, especially with hyper voice since both the primary ones got it. Just, please game freak - next gen, if pixellate is gonna continue to be so strong - seventh gen. Poison / Steel. Steel / Fire that's not heatran. Poison / Fire. Make at least one of those happen, please.

As for moves, subs are annoying but I mean, there's ways to deal with them. Taunt. Encore. Sound moves. Status, since if they have to use sub every turn they're probably not healing enough to do it sustainably.

I probably have a loathing for hyper voice because of pixellate too.

Nah May 17th, 2015 3:05 AM

idk why all the -ate abilities give a +30% boost when everything that gets those abilities gets STAB on the moves too

Hikamaru June 3rd, 2015 4:43 PM

I'm with Rob on not being a fan of confusion and critical hits since they always bite me badly in a battle. I also don't like how Focus Blast misses literally every single time I use the move, that accuracy is just the worst.

Paralysis and flinch hax are also not fun when you're on the receiving end of it. It's a reason to fear the likes of Togekiss and Jirachi, who are masters of that strategy.

graybeardhalt June 5th, 2015 7:53 PM

When I'm using anything less than 100% accuracy, I swear, it misses every time.

Just today I got a double miss from rock slide and missed half the time with meteor mash and zen headbutt.

Somewhere_ June 5th, 2015 9:27 PM

Scald is really annoying- especially on bulky mons because if you dont KO them, they will burn you.

esperance June 7th, 2015 5:07 AM

Honestly, nothing pisses me off more in a battle than when someone pulls out the paralysis.

Neo_Angelo June 7th, 2015 6:24 AM

Nothing annoys me more than when your against an opponent full of tank pokes, your just about to kill one after many turns of dealing next to no damage at all when........FACKING RECOVER! or Slack off or any HP gaining move that recovers half your HP.....one damn tank is all it takes to completely ruin my day, because either my pokemon are super effective against it and do no damage anyway, or i try the same tactic and its then a case of who has the most PP.

Healing moves are the bane of my life, yet at the same time are also my greatest asset.


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