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Meadow September 24th, 2015 12:42 PM

89. 91.

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Originally Posted by Ash (Post 8941689)
He's not the same because he's growing. He's learning. The situations around him change how he acts and feels just like how we do depending on the situations and the group of friends we're in. And also because the writers focus on some aspects of Ash more than other aspects of himin each series. It's a good thing he's not the same. That would be bad. c:

This was definitely noticeable at the end of Best Wishes when Iris and Cilan left him. You can tell from his expression that he felt sad, but he also managed to smile it off, because he was used to meeting and parting with his friends so many times.

The departures for AG and DP felt just a little generic for me (though not bad), but Ash's expression during BW's departure was really good, and it spoke volumes about how far he has come throughout the anime.

Dedenne1 September 24th, 2015 2:22 PM

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Maybe if Ash actually aged it would be more realistic...

By reset we mean he never talks about the past or past pokemon and he also doesnt age :P

Arrow_Riddari September 24th, 2015 2:37 PM

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Ash never ages. I think he got blessed/cursed by some Legendary or something [imagine being a kid for all your life/eternity]. Or the Legendaries need a Chosen One who will be there for them eternally...



So I do like Ash [I never actually hated him, I just wish the producers would make him grow up a bit] and have watched the anime [up until Unova]. I think the thing that really made me stop was when Unova started, because Brock was taken out. I really enjoyed Brock's presence and found it amusing how he would flirt with every Jenny/Joy/other girl [and fail]. I was upset that he was taken out of the anime. I don't have anything against Cilan, it was just that I liked Brock better.

Dedenne1 September 24th, 2015 4:36 PM

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I just think the show producers cant't have a 20 year old ash xD

I still watch the anime though its still pretty cool in my opinion and theyre actually making some cool stories this season :D

KetsuekiR September 24th, 2015 5:42 PM

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I think it would be fine if they gave us an explanation as to why Ash won't age? Maybe his father was a Saiyan or something? :o

PageEmp September 24th, 2015 5:50 PM

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I'm hoping in Gen 7 they will replace Ash with a cooler protag, I personally never really liked him much.

KetsuekiR September 24th, 2015 6:02 PM

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Hard to think they would. They just really like Ash for some reason.

Meadow September 24th, 2015 6:10 PM

95. 97. 98.

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Originally Posted by Dedenne1 (Post 8941795)
By reset we mean he never talks about the past or past pokemon and he also doesnt age :P

He still does, though. xD

In the third episode of AG, Ash had memories of Misty and Brock, and told May and Max that Brock used to cook for the two of them. Plus, Max also recognized Ash as one of the top 8 of the Johto League, which Ash acknowledged. And of course he remembers his Pokémon too! After May caught her Bulbasaur, Ash remembered his own Bulbasaur and even brought it back from Oak, just so it could meet up with May's Bulbasaur. And a lot of his Pokémon come back throughout AG as well, most notably after the Hoenn League ended, and during various instances of the Battle Frontier.

As for DP, there weren't as many references to the past, but Aipom from AG followed him to Sinnoh, and he brought back a bunch of his old Pokémon for the Sinnoh League. Even in BW, Ash remembers the times he spent in Sinnoh when Dawn joins the group, and later during the "Episode N" season, he remembers his Charizard and proceeds brings it back to him (with remastered flashbacks and everything)!

And XY isn't close to finishing, so there aren't too many references yet, but they still exist. During the aquarium episode (XY022), Ash sees a Piplup and says "the one I knew tended to get carried away, though," which can only be referring to Dawn's Piplup. In addition, Ash was already with Pansy at the beginning of the series, since she came with him at the end of BW. When they parted ways, Ash said "thank you for everything up until now," which basically implies he was referring to the past. xD

As for aging, it's not that he can't age - it's just that his age was retconned to being 10 again in BW, for the sake of simplifying things to present to a new audience. I say "retcon" because while his age was never directly confirmed in AG or DP, you can calculate his age by counting every single day that passed throughout the series. Of course, doing that would be completely impractical, so they just "overrode" that information with a simple retcon. And while it is true that they could've retconned him to be older, that was their own choice to make him 10.

By the way, I finally found that post which I was too lazy to dig up! :D It basically elaborates on why the writers decided to reset Ash's character.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=8726278#post8726278

Dedenne1 September 24th, 2015 6:20 PM

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Lol fair enough :P

But of coarse i still cant see that those are good reasons to :(

KetsuekiR September 24th, 2015 6:21 PM

100. Begin the cleansing. Not sure if I turn into a ghost at this point or not >~< If I do, it'd be Mega-Gengar for sure! :P

All in all, Pokemon needs a new protagonist :P We've had enough Ash! I mean, the guy's had over a decade of screen time! Let it go, Nintendo!

Meadow September 24th, 2015 6:37 PM

101.

Well, I personally don't think Ash is the problem. It's just that the anime has very simplistic writing, so even if we had a new protagonist, the anime would be almost essentially a repeat of the old formulas (with only a few new twists), assuming the same production team stays intact.

Now if we had more complex writing and Ash was still the protagonist, then the anime would still have a good chance of satisfying a lot more people.

At least, this is just my guess, anyway. xD

KetsuekiR September 24th, 2015 8:35 PM

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Fair enough. I guess what the anime needs is a complete overhaul to revive it? It is pretty monotonous at the moment.

Dedenne1 September 25th, 2015 2:30 AM

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You only turn into a ghost at 50 or a perma ghost at 150 but FINALLY WE ARE CLEANSED

Laguna September 25th, 2015 2:33 AM

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Hey, I'm supposed to be Mega Gengar, or at least I was until my inner ninja happened.

KetsuekiR September 25th, 2015 3:46 AM

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All good :P I'll be Mega-Bannette xD Just as creepy :P

Arrow_Riddari September 25th, 2015 6:16 AM

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I would be Mega Sableye

KetsuekiR September 25th, 2015 6:38 AM

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Ghosts are awesome xD

Arrow_Riddari September 25th, 2015 7:56 AM

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Totally awesome

KetsuekiR September 25th, 2015 8:11 AM

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No doubt about it!

Arrow_Riddari September 25th, 2015 1:32 PM

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Sooo... Name your favorite Pokemon.

kingdenas September 25th, 2015 2:01 PM

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Lucario <3 ... I just ... love it *-*

Laguna September 25th, 2015 2:03 PM

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Raichu's my favourite, actually. I just like it. Like, a lot.

DyingWillFlareon September 25th, 2015 2:27 PM

113.

Shaymin and Togekiss. ^-^ "Gratitude and Jubilee" Pokemon, guess I'm just a cheerball lol.
Sorry I wasn't on lately, I got a cold and it's been killing me today.

alisaie September 25th, 2015 2:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedenne1 (Post 8941795)
92

Maybe if Ash actually aged it would be more realistic...

By reset we mean he never talks about the past or past pokemon and he also doesnt age :P

114.

First two things aren't exactly true. But I don't feel like going too in depth but there have been plenty of call backs to previous series and such. Most recent one I can think of (as I haven't caught up on the anime) is Ash looking at Pikachu when he heard about Mega-Sceptile. It was subtle, but the expression the two gave they were definitely thinking of Ash's Sceptile at Oak's lab.

Also I'll go update the first post lmao.

Laguna September 25th, 2015 3:10 PM

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Remember, you still haven't given me the 100 emblem yet.


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