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Let's see... Kanto based games Charizard, Gyarados, Dragonite, Zubat line (Crobat is only available in Gen III games, additionally National Dex is needed), Pidgey line, Spearow line, Aerodactyl, Doduo line, Scyther, Butterfree, Farfetch'd. Johto based games Charizard, Gyarados, Dragonite, Zubat line, Pidgey line, Spearow line, Aerodactyl, Doduo line, Scyther, Butterfree, Hoothoot line, Ledyba line, Togetic, Hoppip, Yanma (Its evolution Yanmega is only available in Gen IV games), Murkrow, Gligar, Delibird, Mantine, Farfetch'd, Skarmory. Italic names indicate they can be only caught by trading from Gen I games. Bold names indicate their evolution forms are only available in Gen IV games and additionally they cannot be evolved before defeating the Champion. Hoenn based games (Only Gen III) Tailow line, Wingull line, Beautifly, Doduo line, Gyarados, Zubat line, Masquerain, Ninjask, Swablu line, Tropius, Salamence, Skarmory. Sinnoh based games Starly line, Combee line, Beautifly, Hoothoot line, Gyarados, Zubat line, Drifloon line, Murkrow line, Chatot, Mantyke line, Wingull line, Tropius, Scyther, Togetic and Togekiss, Yanma line, Swablu line, Gligar line Bold names indicate they are only available in Platinum normally. Unova based games Pidove, Vullaby line, Rufflet line, Woobat, Sigilyph, Archen line, Emolga, Ducklett line, Combee line, Mantyke line, Wingull line, Tropius, Yanma line (Post-game), Gligar line, Zubat line, Drifloon line, Swablu line, Delibird, Skarmory. Bold names indicate they are only available in Black 2 and White 2 versions normally. As mentioned before, any hacks are welcomed as long as they have a wide variety of Flying-type Pokémon. In case of non-Flying types edited as Flying-types, they can be used. While Flying-types that are no longer part of the said type cannot be used. Everyone knows this, but I need to include this in case there might be new members. You can play roms, just do not ask for roms in any sections or by any forms of messaging. It violates the global PokéCommunity rules. Thank you! |
So what do you say about BW2? It has the most options for Pokémon, which means we won't all be playing with nearly the same team.
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I'm not suggesting the following games, but I really can't help and feel sorry for Gen I and all Gen III games's lack of Flying-type Pokémon. GSC and HGSS aren't anywhere better on the said department either. :/ |
- Your nickname: Draco/Seth
- Your Flying-Type Club-Campaign Partner: Starly - Reason for joining the club: I admire Flying-type Pokemon because of the unique control that they have over the skies. The ability to fly is not only useful in battle, but with transport as well; it is a capability that is dreamed of by people and Pokemon alike. My favorite bird Pokemon is Staraptor due to its cool design and ability to learn Close Combat, a move that makes it easy to fend off against types that would normally be advantageous (Ice, Rock, and Steel) Which Flying-type Pokémon deserves a Mega Evolution? Swellow. In terms of stats and movepool, it seems to be lagging behind some of the other regional birds, and becomes more fragile compared to the other birds after a certain height in level; add to that the fact that it it's line only has two stages in evolution. To an extent, the same can also be said about Noctowl. Which Flying-type Mega Evolution does not deserve its Mega Evolution? I don't really think that any of the Flying type megas up to ORAS isn't worthy of their new evolutions. That being said though, Gyarados got even more bulk from it's mega despite already having quite a bit of it. Granted, it does lose its Ground immunity but... |
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With that aside, please come up and join us with the Flying Monotype Event: Planning and Suggestion now. :) We're trying to plan our first ever event for this club! :D |
Shall we organize a Flying Monotype Challenge as well? Why?
Yes! I've never done any nuzlocke, monotype, or challenge run before, so this is something that sounds very exciting to me. It's worth noting though that progress updates from me would be a bit scarce due to school and everything going on this month. Having played so much of RSE, I have good confidence that I would be able to do a Flying monotype run of those games, but not as much with Emerald due to the adjustments made to Gym Leader teams. Like Wattson's Magneton If you're supportive of it, which games* we should consider? I can't really say anything about the RBY and Sinnoh games, because I've played too little of those games to have a decent judgement on their availability of Flying type Pokemon. Gen III and IV seem to have a good amount of them in terms of combinations, and a lot of the ones present in their games are quite the powerhouses too. However, would non-flying pre-evos be exceptions to the restriction? (ie. 'mons such as Caterpie, Bagon, and Dratini) |
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Here's a list of available Flying-type Pokémon from each main games-regions bar Kalos, as Lycan doesn't have it; it's better if we can all experience the same adventure and share our experiences right here in this thread! ^_^ http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=8920020#post8920020 |
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I can also write exact locations for the available Pokémon after we've chosen which game to play.~ In fact I did that for the Psychic-type Club already! {XD} |
I would personally like to do B2/W2 for the mono challenge . Of course that's me, but I'm willing to do any game.
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I might be postponing our Flying-type Event because of this one or probably go on with it simultaneously, please have a look! http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=8926198#post8926198 Let me know if we should continue on with our Flying event, postpone it or even cancel it! Don't be afraid to be honest! {XD} |
To be honest, I don't really care when it will start. I don't have enough time to effectively race through a game, so I don't think I'll be signing up for the global clubs event. So whether we start right away or in two months, either is fine to me.
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Also, I'm throwing in a new topic: What are your feelings on bug/flying types? Opinions on the fact that for example Beautifly is a flying type, while Dustox isn't? |
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I kinda want you to present us, hahaha. :P I can see Joey might be participating for his own club and Seth probably wants to go with Dragon-type? {XD} Interesting topic! ^_^ What are your feelings on bug/flying types? Opinions on the fact that for example Beautifly is a flying type, while Dustox isn't? By typing itself, it's a shame that the weaknesses are common moves. To add insult to the injury, they take double damage from Stealth Rock! As for Beautifly VS Dustox, while Beautifly is better looking and leaned to the offensive side I say its typing is a curse than a help, it's fortunate that Dustox didn't receive that typing! Not downing Flying nor Bugs, but the combination on the other hand is pity. Yanmega is one of those great Bug/Flying Pokémon with so much potential though. :D |
What are your feelings on bug/flying types? Opinions on the fact that for example Beautifly is a flying type, while Dustox isn't?
Personally I like that there are the big/flying type. Sure, there aren't many (regional bugs, yanma line, Masquirain, mothim (or however you spell it) and any others I forgot) but it's neat to see the different designs. I personally love the yanma line design. It's a dragon fly! I can't wait until it gets a mega! Spoiler:
As for Beautifly and Dustox, I love them both. I like beautifly's design, but I've always prefer Dustox for battle purposes due to weaknesses. |
So the monotype challenge event is actually a competition? In that case, expect me to come dead last xD I was expecting a simple walkthrough challenge where all you have to do is finish the game within the restrictions. As for a Dragon monotype, I don't think I'd be able to complete it with any of the official games due to how late-game dragons normally are. For voting, I'll pick Ruby/Sapphire as I know it best, but I'm willing to challenge any game.
What are your feelings on bug/flying types? Opinions on the fact that for example Beautifly is a flying type, while Dustox isn't? I don't use Bug/Flying Pokemon much in the games. The only one I've actually had on my team is Masquerain. They have a plethora of weakness and seem very fragile, so it feels like they would get steamrolled by any Gym Leader/Elite Four unless they had a significant edge on level. In my opinion Dustox suits the type it has been given; it breaks the mold of having only Bug/Flying types for regional bugs. It also has better Poison moves than the others in its movepool, which is great. |
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If you'd like to represent our Flying Club (be note that the game is undecided yet, please take your time to decide), feel free to say so -- no need to hesitate or be shy! |
What are your feelings on bug/flying types? Opinions on the fact that for example Beautifly is a flying type, while Dustox isn't?
It's kind of an overused type honestly, so I'm not super fond of it. As far as Dustox is concerned, it's consistent with other Flying Bug/Poison-types (Venomoth and Beedrill for example), so it doesn't really bother me. |
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What are your feelings on bug/flying types? Opinions on the fact that for example Beautifly is a flying type, while Dustox isn't?
Alex pretty much summed it up here, it's an overused type combination but it's to be expected for most winged insects. I don't mind Dustox being Bug/Poison, I mean we have a lot of others using that type combination as well so they do even each other out. |
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What do you think on the lack of pure Flying-type Pokémon? Is it a bad thing or a good thing? Ironically the lack of pure Flying-type contrasts how Flying-type is paired up with other 17 types, what do you think about this? |
What do you think on the lack of pure Flying-type Pokémon? Is it a bad thing or a good thing?
It's sort of a good thing because a pure Flying-type would mainly have to have a design based solely on wind, which Tornadus already shows so it being pure Flying makes sense. It's difficult to pull off Flying as a pure type compared to others because of the lack of design options. Ironically the lack of pure Flying-type contrasts how Flying-type is paired up with other 17 types, what do you think about this? 5th Gen did give us a pure Flying-type, Tornadus. It is a legendary though so I wouldn't count it but the fact we now have Flying paired up with all other 17 types at least once shows just how many designs can stem up how differently the type can be utilized. |
Can you believe I actually forgot to answer my own topic?
What are your feelings on bug/flying types? Opinions on the fact that for example Beautifly is a flying type, while Dustox isn't? Bug/flying is a very common combination, but it doesn't always seem very meaningful to me, that's why I brought up the topic. Beautifly, as in the example, can't learn any decent flying moves, just Gust (and Aerial Ace with a TM). In what way is it more flying than Dustox? They're both butterflies, they both can fly! Dustox even learns Gust too! Is there a difference? Okay, this doesn't go for all bug/flying Pokémon. Yanmega, for example, actually deserves its flying type. While not able to learn Fly itself, it can at least learn Air Slash, which is a great flying type move. What do you think on the lack of pure Flying-type Pokémon? Is it a bad thing or a good thing? Ironically the lack of pure Flying-type contrasts how Flying-type is paired up with other 17 types, what do you think about this? I'm going to answer both topics at once, as they're very close to each other. Flying is kinda like a side type, Pokémon are always something/flying, until Tornadus came to existence to break the rule. While a side type, it doesn't make it less important, not at all, and that's what makes the flying type so unique: its versatility. In the first generation it has been decided bird Pokémon should be normal/flying instead of just flying. While they lose fighting resistance to this, I actually like they did this. As Hikari just mentioned above, a pure flying type should be an embodiment of the wind, like Tornadus, or something like in the image in the spoiler. Spoiler:
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CURRENT CLUB EVENTSThe Sky High Monotype RacePARTICPANTS (Alphabetic order) & SCOREBOARDNone yet. Currently accepting participants; only Flying-type Club Members are allowed to participate.REWARD FOR WINNING TEAMSAnnounced at the Global Monotype Race; same prize as the Global one. RULES
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Here's the Global PokéClub event! http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=356065 |
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