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Lycanthropy September 24th, 2015 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sun (Post 8939703)
Beautifly and Dustox are sadly under the group known as novelty Pokémon, to showcase the split evolution through personality value, a mechanic introduced in Generation III games. So that's the whole line has actually little to none usage competitively and she's slightly decent for early in-game teams. Fortunately Beautifly has her uses for Pokémon Contests, if you are into collecting Ribbons, May from the anime even uses Beautifly for Contest. Ah wait, that was a decade ago. Lol

The butterflies are useful early game to their quick evolution, but get quickly outclassed, around level 20-25, by other Pokémon, therefore I've rarely used them. The regional birds on the other hand, are still very useful team members, even late game and I often still have one of them, or something like Crobat, on my main team when battling the Champion. They all evolve at a low level too, maybe not level 10 low, but it's not much higher.
I can't speak much about contests, I've never really liked them in the games. In the anime they're a nice addition though.

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Originally Posted by Sun (Post 8939703)
I guess that's what makes Flying-type unique. Unlike Water and Fire, which are common element like the Wind, the wind don't take any shape and forms; they are strong forces. So it makes perfect sense why they can't be a lone type normally. While Tornadus appearance seems to contradict this statement, it actually proves the statement since he represents the tornado, a strong wind! :)

Mmm, but I don't think many would have complained if they decided to keep the rule intact and made Tornadus a normal/flying type too. It sounds a bit strange for a legendary Pokémon, but Tornadus's therian forme is a bird just like many normal/flying type Pokémon.

There also used to be a rule that all flying types were typed as something/flying and never flying/something, not even with the normal/flying birds, until Noibat and Noivern, as flying/dragon, came around. I wonder why that happened?

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Originally Posted by Sun (Post 8939703)
That pic reminds me of Rhodanthe and Gust from Telefang.

Ah, as I don't really know Telefang, I've heard about it and that's about it, that's not what I based it on, but they might have got their inspiration from the standard fantasy representation of air elementals too.


Also I'm joining the Race, but as it seems unnecessary extra typing to put everything in two places I'm just leaving a link here.

Sun September 25th, 2015 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Lycanthropy (Post 8941608)
The butterflies are useful early game to their quick evolution, but get quickly outclassed, around level 20-25, by other Pokémon, therefore I've rarely used them. The regional birds on the other hand, are still very useful team members, even late game and I often still have one of them, or something like Crobat, on my main team when battling the Champion. They all evolve at a low level too, maybe not level 10 low, but it's not much higher.
I can't speak much about contests, I've never really liked them in the games. In the anime they're a nice addition though.

Yeah most bugs are in the early-mon frame. It's understandable why they aren't as strong as most final evolution stages -- they evolve early, it's going to be a cakewalk if they are that strong. Just imagine if you have access to a Typhlosion shortly after defeating Falkner. While I like Flying-type, the type is more like a curse than an actual help to the butterflies.

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Mmm, but I don't think many would have complained if they decided to keep the rule intact and made Tornadus a normal/flying type too. It sounds a bit strange for a legendary Pokémon, but Tornadus's therian forme is a bird just like many normal/flying type Pokémon.

There also used to be a rule that all flying types were typed as something/flying and never flying/something, not even with the normal/flying birds, until Noibat and Noivern, as flying/dragon, came around. I wonder why that happened?

The Noivern line and Tornadus are indeed unique! I guess these Pokémon are going to make a great topic soon!

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Also I'm joining the Race, but as it seems unnecessary extra typing to put everything in two places I'm just leaving a link here.
Will do! I'll start my Flying Mono Race here, as soon as you decided which game to play with. :)

DarkSkys October 1st, 2015 2:36 PM

I wouldn't say outclassed, considering I've seen Butterfree used in wifi battles.

Sun October 2nd, 2015 5:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkSkys (Post 8949712)
I wouldn't say outclassed, considering I've seen Butterfree used in wifi battles.

How about the likes of Beautifly, Masquerain and Yanmega? :o

DarkSkys October 2nd, 2015 6:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sun (Post 8950595)
How about the likes of Beautifly, Masquerain and Yanmega? :o

Yanmega with Speed Boost, Protect, Bug Buzz, Air Slash are the ones I've run across. The Fire/Bug since we're kinda talking about Bugs is also a favorite. Beautifly can learn Quiver Dance to boost speed, as well as Bug Buzz. Though have not seen many. I used 1 in XY though.

Sun October 2nd, 2015 6:54 AM

And that wraps up our Bug/Flying saga. :)

New topic:
What kind animals should they base on for a Gen 7 Flying-type Pokémon? If you are going to suggest a legendary, please tell us the original folklore/mythology of it.

DarkSkys October 2nd, 2015 6:57 AM

What kind animals should they base on for a Gen 7 Flying-type Pokémon? If you were to suggest a legendary, please tell us the original folklore/mythology of it.
A toughy, I can only think of Big Foot. or a yedi

KorpiklaaniVodka October 2nd, 2015 6:59 AM

- Your nickname: KorpiklaaniVodka
- Your Flying-Type Club-Campaign Partner: Skarmory
- Reason for joining the club: I like flying-types lol
- Answer to the highlighted topic (compulsory):
HIGHLIGHTED TOPIC: Which Flying-type Pokémon deserves a Mega Evolution?
Swellow
Which Flying-type Mega Evolution does not deserve its Mega Evolution?
ummm neither, I think all of them are fine.

Sun October 2nd, 2015 7:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkSkys (Post 8950669)
What kind animals should they base on for a Gen 7 Flying-type Pokémon? If you were to suggest a legendary, please tell us the original folklore/mythology of it.
A toughy, I can only think of Big Foot. or a yedi

How is it possible for a Yeti to be a Flying-type Pokémon? :o I understand Ice-type and even Rock or Fighting... But.…

DarkSkys October 2nd, 2015 7:06 AM

With wings, nature evolves. Heck we may see a Flying type Eeveeolution at some point.

Sun October 2nd, 2015 9:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkSkys (Post 8950681)
With wings, nature evolves. Heck we may see a Flying type Eeveeolution at some point.

That sounds like ze fabulous fairies if you ask meh. :v

Flying-type Eevee on the other hand, isn't that strange. :)

DarkSkys October 2nd, 2015 7:57 PM

We're all strange. But yea Ghost Eevee, Dragon Eevee & other type have been talked about. Look on Google!

Hikamaru October 2nd, 2015 8:12 PM

This topic reminds me so much of all the fanart I've seen for hypothetical designs for more new Eeveelution types. I could imagine a possible Flying Eeveelution have a cloud theme to its design, so that it can still stay in pure-Flying territory.

*reminds how much I miss Eevee/Eeveelutions club*

DarkSkys October 2nd, 2015 11:02 PM

Actually some of the designs for the Flying Eevee is good, some with wings some with out. What's the mythical creature that's got the body of a lion but wings on its back?

KorpiklaaniVodka October 2nd, 2015 11:54 PM

Ummm I haven't been noticed? (hint: check post #83)

but anyway we don't need any more eeveelutions, there are too many of them

R2J October 3rd, 2015 1:07 AM

Which Flying-type Pokémon deserves a Mega Evolution? Fearow
Which Flying-type Mega Evolution does not deserve its Mega Evolution? None
- Your nickname: R2J
- Your Flying-Type Club-Campaign Partner: Gonna go ahead and shoot for Spearow
- Reason for joining the club: Gen 1 was where I first fell in love with the birds. Spearow was the first one I had and Fearow was the one that got me the win over Gary at the Pokémon League.

DarkSkys October 3rd, 2015 2:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KorpiklaaniVodka (Post 8951788)
Ummm I haven't been noticed? (hint: check post #83)

but anyway we don't need any more eeveelutions, there are too many of them

Yes! More Eevees!

DraconianWing October 3rd, 2015 9:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkSkys (Post 8951767)
Actually some of the designs for the Flying Eevee is good, some with wings some with out. What's the mythical creature that's got the body of a lion but wings on its back?

It's called the Griffin; head and wings of an eagle, back legs of a lion. That would definitely make for an interesting Eeveeolution. Maybe give it it's own signature move too?

Lycanthropy October 3rd, 2015 10:28 AM

A griffin or a hippogriff would be perfect as legendary Pokémon. They can pair flying with any a lot of types, fire, water, electric or ice without getting very strange, but I think rock would fit the best, as griffins were seen as guardians of goldmines to protect the treasure.

Another mythical creature that would be a perfect base for a Pokémon is a pegasus, I'm thinking fairy/flying or electric/flying, but other things can be possible too, like how they made Rapidash a fire type unicorn. Fairy because it simply kinda looks that way and electric, because Pegasus was ordered to carry Zeus's lightning bolts.

Most other flying types are simply based on birds or bugs and there's nothing much specific that can be said about that besides one thing: there are never enough bird Pokémon! ;)

DarkSkys October 3rd, 2015 6:24 PM

How about a flying Unicorn?

Sun October 4th, 2015 1:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KorpiklaaniVodka (Post 8951788)
Ummm I haven't been noticed? (hint: check post #83)

but anyway we don't need any more eeveelutions, there are too many of them

Be patient dude. I already said I'm busy. @[email protected] But yeah, welcome to our club.

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Originally Posted by R2J (Post 8951852)
Which Flying-type Pokémon deserves a Mega Evolution? Fearow
Which Flying-type Mega Evolution does not deserve its Mega Evolution? None
- Your nickname: R2J
- Your Flying-Type Club-Campaign Partner: Gonna go ahead and shoot for Spearow
- Reason for joining the club: Gen 1 was where I first fell in love with the birds. Spearow was the first one I had and Fearow was the one that got me the win over Gary at the Pokémon League.

Hi there R2J make yourself at home!

Spearow's a good choice, :) Have fun with it.

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Originally Posted by DraconianWing (Post 8952480)
It's called the Griffin; head and wings of an eagle, back legs of a lion. That would definitely make for an interesting Eeveeolution. Maybe give it it's own signature move too?

Like Gryphonmon the tiger and eagle-like Digimon. Maybe a less or none evil version of Oblivion Wing?

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Originally Posted by Lycanthropy (Post 8952565)
A griffin or a hippogriff would be perfect as legendary Pokémon. They can pair flying with any a lot of types, fire, water, electric or ice without getting very strange, but I think rock would fit the best, as griffins were seen as guardians of goldmines to protect the treasure.

Another mythical creature that would be a perfect base for a Pokémon is a pegasus, I'm thinking fairy/flying or electric/flying, but other things can be possible too, like how they made Rapidash a fire type unicorn. Fairy because it simply kinda looks that way and electric, because Pegasus was ordered to carry Zeus's lightning bolts.

Most other flying types are simply based on birds or bugs and there's nothing much specific that can be said about that besides one thing: there are never enough bird Pokémon! ;)

Then that actually makes this Griffin or Hippogriff a perfect legend as sweet Lycan says. I can see it working as a mascot in future generations. :D But instead of guarding gold mine it should be guarding something else. It might be a great counterpart for the Pegasus as well.

DarkSkys October 4th, 2015 2:20 PM

Oblivion Wing was not Evil lol was just over powered.

Hikamaru October 4th, 2015 8:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSkys (Post 8954285)
Oblivion Wing was not Evil lol was just over powered.

The move was actually called "Death Wing" back in the Japanese version but I always knew they would change the name for the English release given how much the dubbers like to censor the word "death".

Sun October 5th, 2015 1:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkSkys (Post 8954285)
Oblivion Wing was not Evil lol was just over powered.

In a sense you are correct. Just because it represent death and recover its health by draining the opponent's, doesn't necessarily make it evil.

DarkSkys October 5th, 2015 2:27 AM

Like I said, overpowered.


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