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fenyx4 July 29th, 2015 3:24 PM

Well, I've been hyped for Windows 10 (I'm still irritated by the name and nonsensical counting, though - if we're going off of Windows 7 and Windows 8, the operating system's common name should be Windows 9, although at least the "Windows 9x issue" explanation sounds like a plausible rationale...I guess I'll have to indulge in extreme rounding of "Windows 8.1 → 9" so I can have some semblance of proper numbering.. -.- And in any case, the Roman-numeral alternative of "Windows X" sounds cooler, although I guess it kind of detracts from the uniqueness of the "Windows XP" name.. /Windows10namerant) for a while now; I guess I just like gravitating towards knowing about new technology. {XD}

Although I haven't actually tested out the system yet, it looks highly promising from what I've read as an excelling successor of Windows 7 - way better than the touch-infested disaster of Windows 8/Windows 8.1. I'm glad that Windows 7, 8, and 8.1 users get the opportunity of upgrading for free (especially for Windows 8.1 users, as Microsoft never did deliver a "proper" Start Menu as they supposedly intended). I'm a bit wary of the "software as a service" route that Windows 10 seems to be taking, though. I also dislike the practice of forcing updates on people; I distinctly recall an update from some time between 2014-2015 that inadvertently disrupted the functioning a lot of Microsoft Windows computers (or something along those lines), not to mention that Windows seems to inexplicably like installing (or at least wanting to install) updates at the most random times (even when set for a time frame like ~3:00 AM), particularly when the user is probably busy with stuff and at moments when shutting down would not be helpful.

Hooray for the return of the proper Start Menu! ^^ As far as I'm concerned, that thing needs to be a mainstay on Windows computers until something better comes along (it definitely wasn't the Windows 8 Start Screen, that's for sure). The integration of tiles is a decent compromise, although I prefer the Windows 7 Start Menu layout. Thankfully, the free software of Classic Shell allows extensive Start Menu customization and seamless integration with Windows 10 (aside from the Windows 7 Start Menu version, it even lets you mimic Windows XP-era and Windows95/98-ish-era Start Menus; that is so cute! {<3}), so it looks like my Start Menu qualms are finally over. (I gotta donate to those guys someday..)

Other positive points related to the classic Start Menu's return include the "Control Panel" being regularly accessible again from the Start Menu (I never thought I would have to make a desktop shortcut just to get there on Windows 8), "Accesories -> System Tools" becoming regularly accessible again for things like Calculator, Disk Cleanup, and Disk Defragmenter, and the command for shutting down being easy again (it has been the easily-pinpointable "Start Button → Shut Down" for years, I have no idea why Windows 8 opted for that non-intuitive "sliiiiide-down-the-right-of-the-screen! → wait for the menu → press the on-screen Power button → then Shut Down" nonsense or whatever the "Shut Down" gesture was - a Start Screen tile was needed just to escape that gesturing chaos).

Also, it seems like "Modern Windows Apps" are confined to actual "windows" now instead of taking on the form of those Windows 8 "FULL-SCREEN, YEAH!" monstrosities (the prime offender being the Start Screen itself), which is a major plus. One of the biggest pains of Windows 8 is that it felt like almost every file-opening action mandated some kind of full-screen ordeal, even opening simple PDFs and images...sheesh.

The "Continuum Mode" feature of Windows 10 that adapts towards whether the user is on a desktop/laptop computer, a touch-screen tablet device, or a laptop-tablet hybrid device is much appreciated, compared to Windows 8 forcing "TOUCH!" on you all the time (may those Charms never come back >:().

The flat "Metro"-style of Windows 8 and Windows 10 is decent, although I rather liked the "Aero Glass" style embellished by Windows 7...hopefully Aero Glass makes some sort of comeback in Windows 10..?

Farewell, Internet Explorer! (although technically Windows 10 includes it for Enterprise purposes..?) I haven't tried out Microsoft Edge, although as a browser, I hope it can supersede Internet Explorer. The name is kind of underwhelming ("Edge" sounds like one of those technology buzzwords, for some reason), although I like that the "E" icon mimics the icon for Internet Explorer! :) Mozilla Firefox will still win for me as a web broswer in Windows 10, though (most likely XD).

Lastly, I wish the pre-Windows 8 versions of Solitaire (and similar games) were included on Windows 10; they're like classics! The Windows Store "Modern App" versions for Solitaire and its gaming brethren are very pretty but don't quite do the originals justice (Advertisements in Solitaire? Really? -_- Apparently, it's been like that since Windows 8, but that doesn't mean that the practice should still be encouraged at all. :x)

Tl;dr: Overall, Windows 10 looks largely promising compared to Windows 8 (with Classic Shell improving the Start Menu options multi-fold), although some aspects could be improved (Windows Update, Solitaire).

EDIT: It seems that there have been a few quirks regarding Windows 10 installations and usage.. I hope they can be ironed out. Good example of why I tend to be averse to adopting technology on the first day - I can learn about arising mishaps from (hopefully reliable) second-hand accounts rather than encountering said mishaps firsthand and experiencing them the hard way. :x

Qibli July 29th, 2015 4:12 PM

Same thing before I upgraded. Windows Update didn't show get windows 10 icon on the taskbar, so I download and run media tool instead.

Sir Codin July 29th, 2015 4:13 PM

I tried updating to 10 and the OS wouldn't even boot up, forcing me to use a method to revert back to 8.1

I don't know what caused this, but I'm sticking with 8.1 until Microsoft gets their shit together.

Qibli July 29th, 2015 4:25 PM

It seems you don't meet the requirement for the upgrade. I got that when using preview version and reverts back to my old 7.
I miss the old 7, but Windows 10 boot and shut down much faster than 7 does.

Sir Codin July 29th, 2015 4:42 PM

My computer doesn't suck shit, it's brand new and can play Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin.

I really don't know what caused that.

Qibli July 29th, 2015 4:44 PM

I'm not sure why isn't it working for you. It should work just fine for new pc as long the requirement is met

Taemin July 29th, 2015 5:00 PM

I'm really excited for the update. It hasn't gotten to me yet, but I reserved it on the first day that we were allowed to, so now I'm just waiting.

Think I'll go ahead and upgrade as soon as I can, but I'm worried about downgrading (how I'd do that), if 10 messes up for me. :/

Monophobia July 29th, 2015 8:56 PM

I was anxious to receive the update, so I stayed up until midnight hoping to get my reserved install first thing, but as the day went on, it was bothering me more and more that it wasn't giving me an upgrade notification. So, I went digging around, and found that using this guide and simply using the "upgrade" method, I was able to update from 8.1 to 10 on my own schedule (instead of Microsoft's).

Windows 10 is a welcome update. My machine has never run faster. Windows are snapping up instantly, applications boot at lightning speeds, and I'm pretty sure my laptop only took a total of 6 seconds to cold boot after the battery ran dry. I do have some issues with not being able to use Cortana without linking your Microsoft account to your system. They should be separate.

EDIT: And screw OneDrive. I use Mega instead, and it sucks that the OneDrive folder is permanently pinned in the explorer pane.

Starry Windy July 29th, 2015 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Fail (Post 8868989)
Yeah, I've actually disabled OneDrive and IE so far, I just need to reboot now. I'd really like to remove OneDrive from the Explorer pane though, I may see if there is a registry edit I can do.

I think I can unpin OneDrive normally from the File Explorer. When I'm using the Explorer, I was right clicking on the Explorer's Taskbar icon and then unpinning it with no issues at all, just like when I'm unpinning stuffs in 8/8.1 back then. The changes that I made there will connect to the Explorer pane, so it will be good to go!

Taemin July 30th, 2015 5:24 AM

Crossing my fingers that nothing goes wrong, and using the guide that Monophobia linked to. Here goes nothin'. > >;

Necrum July 30th, 2015 11:43 AM

Every single time I've tried to install has failed. This last time left my computer a little bit wonky. It's extremely frustrating. I just want windows 10 dammit!

Hiatus July 30th, 2015 12:27 PM

I've finished updating both of my computers last night to Windows 10, and so far, I'm loving what I see! All its apps are integrated within the desktop, so to speak (as in, when launching an app, it would not fill up the screen entirely, and act as a window), which is one reason as to why I'm liking it, and its interface is also more polished than before.

Although I am enjoying Windows 10, there are definitely some things here and there that don't precisely click with me, with one being system icons (I'm referring to the ones we see in places such as notification tray, Microsoft Edge, and so forth). To me, they seem a little too... thin, I suppose. I'm not sure how to explain, haha.

Her July 30th, 2015 7:28 PM

Day 2 and I think that all in all Windows 10 is a fantastic upgrade, but it's killing me inside with how glitchy it has made Chrome :( I'll just have to wait for a update as yada yada Windows 10 has just been released and whatever, but combined with the glitchy mouse it's really Cramping My Style.

Kanzler July 30th, 2015 8:09 PM

Can anybody give a quick rundown of pros/cons, and most notable features?

Starry Windy July 30th, 2015 10:38 PM

I think I have some pros and cons to list:

Pros:
- Good 'ol Start menu is back, which makes it more manageable.
- Microsoft Edge looks pretty promising
- Metro apps can run alongside usual Windows apps without having to go into Full Screen!
- You can make second or third desktop without need of using third-party software!
- More ways of logging in, you can use PIN number, gestures and your face, or so I heard.
- I haven't tried this one, but apparently it has built-in screen captures as well.
- Cortana might be great to assist your experience in PC. However... it has some cons described below.

Cons:
- The white title bar is too plain in terms of Windows interface, I wish I can change it to any color of my liking.
- Shorter battery life (that might be one of the early bugs found before Windows 10 was released in public, so I hope it's fixed soon).
- Speaking of Cortana, if you're not in USA, UK, German, Italy, Spain, France and China, you're out of luck because you can't use it (for a meantime).

Candy July 30th, 2015 10:57 PM

I'm still considering on upgrading. I'll probably ask my brother or sister to try upgrading on their laptops and see how smooth it goes.

Sirfetch’d July 30th, 2015 11:03 PM

Mine finally upgraded after 3 tries I think? I do like it so far though! Not a huge fan of the navigation bar at the bottom but overall it's sleek and very fast. Definitely glad I updated!

Qibli July 30th, 2015 11:14 PM

A FAQ would be nice I could just google for the answer.

Cooking dash 2 looks terrible and I mean the cursor just trails and black square. I try to find a good compability the result are same

Eden July 31st, 2015 12:44 AM

Welp. My GPU didn't like the new update one bit. So much in fact I needed to fight with it for a few hours to even let me get into Windows 10 to let me go back to 8.1. ._.

New GPU on the way though so I'll try again then. I might let my laptop upgrade though just to see what it does. I've got less to lose on that thing.

Tsutarja July 31st, 2015 6:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kibou (Post 8870664)
Welp. My GPU didn't like the new update one bit. So much in fact I needed to fight with it for a few hours to even let me get into Windows 10 to let me go back to 8.1. ._.

New GPU on the way though so I'll try again then. I might let my laptop upgrade though just to see what it does. I've got less to lose on that thing.

What exactly happened with your GPU though? If your computer can run Windows 8.1 fine, then there's no reason it can't do the same for Windows 10.

Return July 31st, 2015 7:01 AM

Still waiting for the Upgrade to come, and in future i will hope when i download Windows 10 nothing goes wrong :(

Legendary Silke August 1st, 2015 7:41 AM

After reverting, I'm going to guess that my computer is taking its sweet time to download and prepare the upgrade again. I can wait. Who likes buggy OSes?

Thomas August 1st, 2015 7:48 AM

I'm really eager to upgrade, but my computer has failed to upgrade to 10 about 30 times over the last few days. I have no idea why, but it might have something to do with the fact that I build my computer, it's not from an OEM.

Tsutarja August 1st, 2015 9:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas (Post 8872354)
I'm really eager to upgrade, but my computer has failed to upgrade to 10 about 30 times over the last few days. I have no idea why, but it might have something to do with the fact that I build my computer, it's not from an OEM.

That really shouldn't have anything to do with it, weird.

Mewtwolover August 1st, 2015 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas (Post 8872354)
I'm really eager to upgrade, but my computer has failed to upgrade to 10 about 30 times over the last few days. I have no idea why, but it might have something to do with the fact that I build my computer, it's not from an OEM.

Did it give any error messages?


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