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Infinitum August 5th, 2015 11:15 AM

Do you miss the Nintendo WFC?
 
I remember that generation 4 Pokémon games were all about the online gameplay. They had so many interesting online features, which I still miss up to today. I always felt bad about the bad that Nintendo shut the online services for the DS down.

Pokémon Diamond/Pearl:
  • Fantastic double battles online
  • The GTS! (with that legendary website that shutted down in 2010)

Pokémon Platinum:
  • The Pokémon plaza

Pokémon HG/SS:
  • Compilation of the reasons above

Pokémon Black/White 1/2:
  • The new battle types were epic online...

Not to mention the online puzzles for games like Professor Layton, online matches in FIFA 11, and many other legendary things about the Nintendo WFC...

How do/did you feel when Nintendo took the services down?

Sun August 5th, 2015 10:03 PM

Some players need the help of GTS or Wi-Fi Trade in order to complete their Generation IV games. While it is understandable they had to shut down the Wi-Fi Server, in my opinion it is still irresponsible to do so. I don't really miss it, but I find it inconvenient!

Hikamaru August 5th, 2015 10:58 PM

I never used the wi-fi features so I don't miss it all that much, but I can understand it gets harder to complete the Pokedex without it. We all have to move forward, as they say.

Starry Windy August 6th, 2015 1:01 AM

Even though I started to get proper Wi-Fi connection when I'm using XY, sometimes I'm wondering what does Wi-Fi Plaza looks like in Platinum and the others since I can't get to see them live, but I guess that can't be helped.

Infinitum August 6th, 2015 7:13 AM

The Pokémon Plaza was an interesting place where you could do several mini games with other, send some sort of messages and do several other things. You had some sort of toy which went better by spending time in the plaza or winning in mini games. It was just something... I can't describe it with words.

On a related forum someone once started a private server for Nintendo WFC, I quickly went big but... I didn't last for long. I think you might still be able to make use of it, maybe if we all used that private server and then went to the plaza... epic.

SparklingMistral August 8th, 2015 7:30 PM

I think it's kinda silly that they took away wifi compatibility for the DS games. They can still be played on the 3DS, which can support the wifi for the 3DS games, so why not for the DS games too? It'd make sense that way and allow players who are playing them for the first time or replaying them to experience those features too.

jessluvstolaugh August 12th, 2015 5:23 PM

I never understood why I couldn't use my own wifi instead of the nintendo WFC lol

Sun August 12th, 2015 7:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jessluvstolaugh (Post 8888220)
I never understood why I couldn't use my own wifi instead of the nintendo WFC lol

I feel you. It made me wonder the lack of fan-servers for DS games, until I learned that there are some encrypted data for the Nintendo Wi-Fi thing. Long story short, it's sad that the Wi-Fi for DS games no longer work.

jessluvstolaugh August 12th, 2015 7:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Unapologetic Sunflower (Post 8888302)
I feel you. It made me wonder the lack of fan-servers for DS games, until I learned that there are some encrypted data for the Nintendo Wi-Fi thing. Long story short, it's sad that the Wi-Fi for DS games no longer work.

Yeah... wow... it's kind of as sad as when they stopped selling GBA games at gamestop lol

Infinitum August 13th, 2015 7:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jessluvstolaugh (Post 8888306)
Yeah... wow... it's kind of as sad as when they stopped selling GBA games at gamestop lol

It's almost as sad as realizing that you can still call the number on the back of your NES for technical support after 30 years, but you can't use the online service for your DS anymore.

jessluvstolaugh August 13th, 2015 8:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Infinitum (Post 8888923)
It's almost as sad as realizing that you can still call the number on the back of your NES for technical support after 30 years, but you can't use the online service for your DS anymore.

Truer words have never been spoken lol

Infinitum August 13th, 2015 8:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jessluvstolaugh (Post 8888929)
Truer words have never been spoken lol

A new quote made by master Infinitum!

But yeah, Nintendo have never been the most relevant thinkers in the world. Considering that nobody probably knows about that number still being used/actually using it, while still thousands of people used the Nintendo WFC... It takes longer to find a match on modern games on Origin than it took to find a battle on Pokémon Diamond. (who was already several years released...)

Aslan August 16th, 2015 2:30 AM

I never did use the Nintendo WFC outside of battling friends locally! At the time when it was still open, my DS had always had connection problems so I wasn't able to do much internet-wise.

Some of the stuff I'd of wanted to do if I did have the connection back then though - give away pokemon, do the whole 'capture the flag' game underground and wi-fi battle. I guess it's fine since I can do that now on X/Y and ORAS but it'd of been cool to do it in fourth gen!

Infinitum August 16th, 2015 7:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Aslan (Post 8892425)
I never did use the Nintendo WFC outside of battling friends locally! At the time when it was still open, my DS had always had connection problems so I wasn't able to do much internet-wise.

Some of the stuff I'd of wanted to do if I did have the connection back then though - give away pokemon, do the whole 'capture the flag' game underground and wi-fi battle. I guess it's fine since I can do that now on X/Y and ORAS but it'd of been cool to do it in fourth gen!

in 4th GEN it was something more unique, cause it were the first handheld Pokémon games to introduce online multiplayer. I really want Nintendo to bring it back, but it will never return.

magicalgirlj August 18th, 2015 10:43 AM

By the time I got back into Pokemon it was almost too late. But now I go online on X and Y all the time, usually once per day. I never used Wifi on my regular DS

Megan August 19th, 2015 12:20 AM

Wasn't the main reason, why the WFC was shut down, because of the company hosting the servers going bankrupt? At least that's what I heard.

Instead of having to go through the trouble of finding a new host that could hold the servers for an outdated gameing console, it kind of makes sense, just to move on to the next console generation (3DS).

As for the WFC itself: I never used it, which was partly because of the Router settings that needed to be changed, just so you could access the internet via DS.

Infinitum August 19th, 2015 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by R.F. (Post 8896111)
Wasn't the main reason, why the WFC was shut down, because of the company hosting the servers going bankrupt? At least that's what I heard.

Instead of having to go through the trouble of finding a new host that could hold the servers for an outdated gameing console, it kind of makes sense, just to move on to the next console generation (3DS).

As for the WFC itself: I never used it, which was partly because of the Router settings that needed to be changed, just so you could access the internet via DS.

Yes, the DS didn't support WPA encryption so only WEP or no encryption could be used. Later DS consoles (DSi and upwards supported WPA, but only for browsing/eShop and not in game Wi-fi connection). Lot's of people weren't aware of that.

Sydian August 19th, 2015 1:07 PM

I wasn't able to use the WFC in gen IV until the very end. Like...I didn't get any of the wifi events except Mew (which iirc was the last gen IV wifi event) and didn't get to trade in the height of gen IV. So while I do miss the WFC, it's mostly for other games rather than DPPt/HGSS. :P

Outlier August 19th, 2015 5:18 PM

I never had wifi access until 6th gen so I missed out on all of the events. I still play Soul Silver more than anything but it sucks knowing that I'll never be able to complete the Pokedex. : (

Sylphiel August 19th, 2015 9:25 PM

It took me forever to actually try it out in the first place, because the router where I lived at the time had the right kind of encryption, but oh whoops for whatever reason this router is incompatible with the DS (it was actually on a list I found of incompatible ones), too bad for you. And no, changing the router was not an option at the time. So basically, even though I finally got a place where I could connect to it, the most I ever did was just look at things a few times, and then totally forget about it all. And even then it was just for Platinum.

So there's really not much for me to miss in the first place. I was like "eh" when they took them down.

Infinitum August 20th, 2015 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sylphiel (Post 8897184)
It took me forever to actually try it out in the first place, because the router where I lived at the time had the right kind of encryption, but oh whoops for whatever reason this router is incompatible with the DS (it was actually on a list I found of incompatible ones), too bad for you. And no, changing the router was not an option at the time. So basically, even though I finally got a place where I could connect to it, the most I ever did was just look at things a few times, and then totally forget about it all. And even then it was just for Platinum.

So there's really not much for me to miss in the first place. I was like "eh" when they took them down.

Actually most of the routers had the option to change their encryption, so did mine. It also took me some time to figure out what was wrong, but once I did, I enjoyed every minute on the Nintendo WFC.

Sylphiel August 21st, 2015 8:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Infinitum (Post 8897294)
Actually most of the routers had the option to change their encryption, so did mine. It also took me some time to figure out what was wrong, but once I did, I enjoyed every minute on the Nintendo WFC.

Mine did have the right kind of encryption, or at least the option for it since I recall fiddling with things to try to get it to connect. It was just flat-out incompatible. I don't remember the exact model of that router, but I'm sure I saw it on Nintendo's site under a "we know these routers won't work" list of theirs, eh heh.

Bounsweet September 13th, 2015 8:41 PM

It was so sad, and way too soon. B2W2 had only been out for a year and a half, and the online usage was still at a decent amount and imo enough to make the premature shutdown unjustified. :\

Like, if Microsoft and Sony can afford to keep their servers up for the 360 and PS3 then I'm pretty sure Nintendo could keep it up for Nintendo WFC... js.

Ammako September 14th, 2015 10:32 AM

I loved it the first time around, when I asked my mom to get me a nintendo wi-fi usb adapter, and then she was like, we can already use wi-fi, and then my stepfather sets up the router so my DS can connect to wi-fi, 'twas pretty cool.
Spent the whole evening just browsing the GTS, and I'd browse the GTS a lot every day.

Loved when I came across my first event Pokémon on the GTS, some event Jirachi and Pokémon Colosseum Ho-Oh, I was pretty happy that I could finally get special Pokémon like that.

Nowadays though, I don't really care anymore. The excitement is over since.

Arylett Charnoa September 14th, 2015 11:38 AM

While I can see why this upsets others, I prefer to move forward. I really don't have any interest in completing the Pokedex on older games, so it doesn't affect my enjoyment of them. I can still go back and play through the story fine. As long as I still have Pokemon games that can connect to Wi-Fi and can still transfer my Pokemon up, it doesn't bother me at all. Besides, I find the Wi-Fi system of Gen IV to be less frustrating. No having to go to the GTS Station or Pokemon Centers to trade! Also, Wonder Trade is probably one of the most fun things ever to me.


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