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twndesu August 8th, 2015 9:52 PM

People's Standards are too high!
 
So a few minutes ago, I was just browsing through some Pokemon on the GTS and I remembered I needed a Milotic so obviously I went and took a look to see if there were any up for trade. I couldn't end up finding one and the reason being was that almost every one of them wanted either a rare Pokemon like Meloetta or Diancie, legendary like Mew or Kyogre or had strange conditions (one for example being a between level 1 - 10 Deoxys).

So I decided to do some more digging and found that it's not just Pokemon like Milotic or Gyarados who people were putting up for crazy rare Pokemon but it was Pokemon like Crobat and Cradily.

Am I the only one who thinks that these people's standards are just way too high? It's like these people will only trade their Pokemon if you give them 14 shiny Mew's with 5 perfect IV's and your firstborn child ~_~

moon August 8th, 2015 10:48 PM

I'm just going to move this discussion over to the Trade Corner, where it fits better :]

-moved

Darkrystal August 9th, 2015 3:32 AM

I find the GTS works really well so long as you only ever put Pokemon in and request what you want in return. Searching for a Pokemon you want will never get you anywhere because, as you say, everyone is a bit silly with it! The people who request Pokemon at impossible levels I really don't understand, and I've seen people with low-level Zigzagoons on there asking for Mew etc., it's really ridiculous.

Aeroblast August 9th, 2015 3:46 PM

it's because better deals get snapped up while not-so-good ones are stuck there so it just appears that there's no good deals.

you're better off leaving pokemon in the gts yourself if you really want to trade for fair deals.

WingedDragon August 9th, 2015 5:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twndesu (Post 8882881)
So a few minutes ago, I was just browsing through some Pokemon on the GTS and I remembered I needed a Milotic so obviously I went and took a look to see if there were any up for trade. I couldn't end up finding one and the reason being was that almost every one of them wanted either a rare Pokemon like Meloetta or Diancie, legendary like Mew or Kyogre or had strange conditions (one for example being a between level 1 - 10 Deoxys).

So I decided to do some more digging and found that it's not just Pokemon like Milotic or Gyarados who people were putting up for crazy rare Pokemon but it was Pokemon like Crobat and Cradily.

Am I the only one who thinks that these people's standards are just way too high? It's like these people will only trade their Pokemon if you give them 14 shiny Mew's with 5 perfect IV's and your firstborn child ~_~


I agree with the other two. What they think is a fair deal is stupid. Many of them are hacks which wont go thru the GTS. Usually when I offer a 5 iv or 4 iv something or another I usually get rid of it within 24 hrs. If you have starters it goes much faster.

Laguna August 9th, 2015 7:05 PM

Yeah, I've found that putting up pokémon yourself is better than actually looking through the GTS to find what you want most of the time, most of the offers are not only stupid but also impossible like Level 1-10 legendaries and the like. I've mostly used the GTS for trade evolutions and getting all the starters by breeding one of a given region's starter and then asking for the other two and those trades went by pretty quickly.

I did get a Turtwig by trading over a Whiscash once though, that was a good deal.

LilyGardy August 12th, 2015 9:30 AM

I am also scratching my head at the insane requests on GTS. I want a Mew as much as anyone but I am not going to put up some random Pansear or whatever to fill space.

On the other hand you sometimes get very generous deals like a Shiny Regigigas for a Basculin.

Thankfully there is no 'shiny only' option or nothing would ever get traded.

If I put requests up myself though I am able to get what I want pretty quickly.

shadowmoon522 August 13th, 2015 12:25 AM

back when the gts still allowed event trades, used to just hack want they wanted with an ar & traded it to them, then check the pokemon to see if it was legit. if it wasn't, i'd release it into the wild. to put it bluntly, at least 80% of the pokemon where hacked. i only really did it to mess with the trolls anyway, and to try and reduce the number of bogus trades. funniest one i found though was a lvl 100 rattata with overly maxed out stats which had its OT listed as joey and was listed as coming from the kanto region. i laughed and released it upon the unsuspecting environment

i would be a lot more grateful for the lack of being able to trade events over the gts if they had put a name filter that marked down mew, celebi, deoxys, jirachi, lugia, ho-oh, manaphy, darkrai, shaymin, arceus, victini, keldeo, meloetta, genesect, diancie, hoopa & volcanion as being invalid names.
well, volcanion still comes up as invalid & hoopa did up til its recent Japanese event when a sudden flood of hoopa requests showed up on the gts. though every once in a while i'll find a good trade like this one though
http://i.imgur.com/ajYGPMH.png

Daphy August 14th, 2015 9:19 AM

The GTS is littered with ridiculous requests, but sometimes I do find a generous person with a realistic request. I just wish there was something that could prevent a majority of the requests, but I can't really think of anything that would do that. I just try my luck Wonder Trading instead

Drogan August 15th, 2015 3:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twndesu (Post 8882881)
So a few minutes ago, I was just browsing through some Pokemon on the GTS and I remembered I needed a Milotic so obviously I went and took a look to see if there were any up for trade. I couldn't end up finding one and the reason being was that almost every one of them wanted either a rare Pokemon like Meloetta or Diancie, legendary like Mew or Kyogre or had strange conditions (one for example being a between level 1 - 10 Deoxys).

So I decided to do some more digging and found that it's not just Pokemon like Milotic or Gyarados who people were putting up for crazy rare Pokemon but it was Pokemon like Crobat and Cradily.

Am I the only one who thinks that these people's standards are just way too high? It's like these people will only trade their Pokemon if you give them 14 shiny Mew's with 5 perfect IV's and your firstborn child ~_~

I know. It's ridiculous that offers like these even exist. Been a huge problem since Gen 4.
This was one I saw when I was looking for a Charmander in Omega Ruby
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLwfvmcUsAA_OIU.jpg
Were you able to get a Milotic? I have a LV 34 on my Pokemon Y game, that I don't use, if you still need one.

Cyclone August 17th, 2015 3:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GD GaminTank (Post 8891911)
I know. It's ridiculous that offers like these even exist. Been a huge problem since Gen 4.
This was one I saw when I was looking for a Charmander in Omega Ruby
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLwfvmcUsAA_OIU.jpg
Were you able to get a Milotic? I have a LV 34 on my Pokemon Y game, that I don't use, if you still need one.

I could give you a Charmander for a Volcanion. :P

Kidding, I agree that's just plain stupidity.

Drogan August 18th, 2015 8:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclone (Post 8894396)
I could give you a Charmander for a Volcanion. :P

Kidding, I agree that's just plain stupidity.

For VOLCANION?! Well, I can let go of one. lol

StrongF3AR August 18th, 2015 10:22 AM

I can help you out, if your still looking for a milotic.

RoreyG August 20th, 2015 8:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twndesu (Post 8882881)
So a few minutes ago, I was just browsing through some Pokemon on the GTS and I remembered I needed a Milotic so obviously I went and took a look to see if there were any up for trade. I couldn't end up finding one and the reason being was that almost every one of them wanted either a rare Pokemon like Meloetta or Diancie, legendary like Mew or Kyogre or had strange conditions (one for example being a between level 1 - 10 Deoxys).

So I decided to do some more digging and found that it's not just Pokemon like Milotic or Gyarados who people were putting up for crazy rare Pokemon but it was Pokemon like Crobat and Cradily.

Am I the only one who thinks that these people's standards are just way too high? It's like these people will only trade their Pokemon if you give them 14 shiny Mew's with 5 perfect IV's and your firstborn child ~_~


Some people are either deluded or have unrealistic expectations. A lot of users are also dishonest to a certain degree. For instance, I put a Protean Froakie up for trade and asked for an Iron Fist Chimchar in return. I lost my Protean Froakie and all I got in return was a normal Blaze Chimchar. It was bullcrap so I tried again. This time, I found someone who had advertised an Iron Fist Chimchar and asked for a Solar Power Charmander in return. I had an extra Charmander like that, so I made the trade. I got another Blaze Chimchar in return.

Esper August 20th, 2015 9:45 AM

It's definitely best to put something up yourself and ask for what you want. Eventually you'll find someone who is kind and honest enough. I remember I was asking for a Pokemon with a hidden ability (nothing else) and I got probably 20 or so before I got what I was looking for.

You gotta also remember that the GTS is global and there are lots of people who speak different languages and they might not have any idea what you're asking for beyond what Pokemon you ask for.

But there are good deals out there. I'll sometimes put up Pokemon with hidden abilities, egg moves, and high stats and only ask for a Zigzagoon or Zubat or something so someone can get something they're looking for easily.

Yanii August 20th, 2015 3:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aeroblast (Post 8883910)
it's because better deals get snapped up while not-so-good ones are stuck there so it just appears that there's no good deals.

you're better off leaving pokemon in the gts yourself if you really want to trade for fair deals.

I totally agree. People are waaaaaaay crazy when it comes to trades... put your pokemon that you'd want to part with for the milortic.

Purl August 20th, 2015 4:11 PM

Once I wanted a simple magikarp. I don't like fishing so I tried to trade for it. Two pages of people asking for mews and legendaries for magikarps. Two. Pages. I wound up just putting a quagsmire for magikarp. I call it the begging pokemon now.

SleepyTrainer August 21st, 2015 12:51 PM

Sometimes I think that they do it purposely,
like they want to troll you or something xD

like thiiiis >> want this pokemon? never gonna get it mate >:)

Raythegamer September 19th, 2015 4:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esper (Post 8897781)
It's definitely best to put something up yourself and ask for what you want. Eventually you'll find someone who is kind and honest enough. I remember I was asking for a Pokemon with a hidden ability (nothing else) and I got probably 20 or so before I got what I was looking for.

You gotta also remember that the GTS is global and there are lots of people who speak different languages and they might not have any idea what you're asking for beyond what Pokemon you ask for.

But there are good deals out there. I'll sometimes put up Pokemon with hidden abilities, egg moves, and high stats and only ask for a Zigzagoon or Zubat or something so someone can get something they're looking for easily.

But I think the problem is that people don't know how much a legendary pokemon is worth.So they give out crazy deals since they have no clue.If you ask me,Nintendo should get like a starting price for every pokemon(it may be hard but if they have the money shouldn't be a problem)

Giga Wurmple September 23rd, 2015 3:10 AM

I usually have a look at what's on there before I put a Pokemon up myself. There are often one or two reasonable trades and then it's down to luck as to whether you have what's needed. You can improve your odds slightly by stocking up on Pokemon that evolve when traded (like Haunter) and Pokemon that are awkward to evolve but that don't use resources (e.g. Sylveon, Milotic).

I'm trying to make a living pokedex and am making heavy use of GTS. I've found that reasonable trades get snapped up in 10-20 minutes. It takes the grind out of levelling up babies if I'm sporadically checking GTS and catching things to put on there. More optimistic deals can still work but take longer. Overnight and work are great for them. If a trade hasn't been found after one of these eight-hour slots then I take it down. I was obviously too greedy.

Firebolt September 25th, 2015 5:56 PM

I agree with what everyone has said on here; you'll find better luck if you put up Pokémon to trade yourself. In this way, I was able to trade Dialga for Ho-Oh (before ORAS came out) and even a Reshiram for Xerneas. As long as you ask for reasonable deals, you should get a trade within a day maximum. P.S. Don't ever trust someone when they say a Pokémon has xxx IVs or Ability. Try to find reputable traders on forums instead.

DarkSkys October 3rd, 2015 6:36 PM

Non-Legend for Non-Legend


Shiny for Shiny


Legend for Legend

That's how I trade.


Note: That they lie on GTS as well. The message may say 6iv or HA/EM but really its just a plane one.

NocturnLeader October 4th, 2015 6:16 AM

i see alot of people put in Pokemon and want Pokemon that can not be traded on GTS! Which is really Stupid on their Part.

Sometime I can find a reasonable trade but sometimes I am like Seriously you want Moltres for that Pidgey .... Wow how lame can that person be!!!

Otamajakushi October 5th, 2015 3:15 PM

I agree, and I think it goes beyond the GTS as well. Often I see people asking for ridiculous trades, or the medium has a competitive Pokemon-only atmosphere. It's almost discouraging to see rows and rows of threads with titles such as "6IV Buffed Out HA 4 Egg Move Blastoise for 35 shinies!" (Exaggerated)

I don't see that here, but I see it around enough to where I simply just abstain from trading with other people. Maybe it'll change in the future, but I think online communities have greatly distorted my vision of a fair trade.

Getting back to the main topic, I think people put impossible trades on the GTS as a way of showing off.

Tamashi_Seishiro October 14th, 2015 2:31 AM

Well some people are totally desperate, they think anyone would buy that random Zubat! They aren't even removing it because they think someone is really kind enough to offer them a rare Mew for an ugly, cheap, just caught Zubat.


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