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Salzorrah January 26th, 2016 1:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 9092342)
Would anyone be interested in doing an Undertale UG collab in the future?

omg yes, even if i haven't played undertale, yes.

Bidoof FTW January 26th, 2016 7:23 PM

he got culted at least, so you couldn't have felt that bad.

Even though you didnt know he was cult until after shooting ;)

Klippy January 26th, 2016 8:11 PM

Draw Watchog Lillipup

Legendary Silke January 27th, 2016 2:30 AM

I think maybe if I'm doing a large game, I really should make it a co-hosted game. It's a bit tight as is right now...

Salzorrah January 27th, 2016 6:36 AM

im just gonna say this

MSD is quickly becoming one of my favorite mafia games to date, and is joining Blarz 1, TTA 2, and Rocket :3

Legendary Silke January 27th, 2016 7:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davepetasprite^2 (Post 9093510)
im just gonna say this

MSD is quickly becoming one of my favorite mafia games to date, and is joining Blarz 1, TTA 2, and Rocket :3

And I'm doing it improv-style! :O

Seth Rollins January 27th, 2016 7:23 AM

Hi! Came to say sorry to many GMs for maybe ruining their games. I've been inactive and got kicked out of the games. Sorry guys! Hope you understand.

Nakuzami January 27th, 2016 8:06 AM

Well

I don't think your absence made much of a difference in most of them, lol. I think you had joined Babylon? That only made it about two phases in before ending on its own.

Legendary Silke January 27th, 2016 9:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bardothren (Post 9093538)
I concur. MSD is a lot like LSD. Hmm... coincidence?

The next mafia game should involve the Fab Four, LSD, and Lucy, the Sky, and Diamonds.

Legendary Silke January 28th, 2016 9:01 AM

I think I might end up being a killer GM in my first time out... :O

Nakuzami January 28th, 2016 3:53 PM

So I see the new "event idea" thing

Should this be motivation to finally figure out the mechanics for Until Dawnfia and/or tEMafia? We shall see. . . .

Legendary Silke January 28th, 2016 10:00 PM

You know, I wonder if my game would have been so crazy if I didn't rip off copy use influences from Bardothren... (heh.)

Legendary Silke January 29th, 2016 5:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bardothren (Post 9095869)
You could've made it as crazy, but using my influence makes it a lot easier.

Makes me wonder what should be the theme of the next mafia game I want to run. I'm thinking of doing a game where phases go as fast as the players do - as soon as all moves are submitted, instant phase change. Also, no turning back with all moves. And did I mention penalties for the town at 12, 24, and 36-hour point if there aren't 1/4, 2/4, and 3/4 player votes/moves submitted?

I'd need enough hosts to cover both sides of the world, though, since I don't want people to have a "cheat away" 8-hour period.

jdthebud January 29th, 2016 8:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 9094845)
I think I might end up being a killer GM in my first time out... :O

They key is that you're active and focused on it. That helps a lot, especially considering the real-time actions in your game.

faer January 29th, 2016 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twiggy (Post 9095887)
Makes me wonder what should be the theme of the next mafia game I want to run. I'm thinking of doing a game where phases go as fast as the players do - as soon as all moves are submitted, instant phase change. Also, no turning back with all moves. And did I mention penalties for the town at 12, 24, and 36-hour point if there aren't 1/4, 2/4, and 3/4 player votes/moves submitted?

I'd need enough hosts to cover both sides of the world, though, since I don't want people to have a "cheat away" 8-hour period.

I'm pretty convinced that the very dominant interact with items mechanic is in favour of the mafia and if present, cult. So I'd actually be surprised if town wins this. It's not obvious, but the fact that there CAN be done a lot and posted a lot, makes it much easier to hide for mafia. It's still fun, and that's the main point, right.

If you're planning to do this again, I think I'd love to co-host a game.

Legendary Silke January 30th, 2016 7:46 AM

That is a lot of work for a Day 2 update... ;.;

And I was playing Civ V, so I kind of let it slide a little bit. Oops!

Foxrally January 31st, 2016 6:54 AM

TT mafia finally done, anyone can post in it now xD

Man GMing is hard, idk how you guys do it

esperance January 31st, 2016 11:24 AM

I am so ready for Once in a Blue Moon

People go join so we can do this

Nakuzami February 1st, 2016 3:54 AM

Miss one day of internet and Nintendo turns into a clusterfuck and I miss Once in a Blue Moon

Oops

jdthebud February 1st, 2016 8:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nakuzami (Post 9099739)
Miss one day of internet and Nintendo turns into a cluster**** and I miss Once in a Blue Moon

Oops

Not to mention Code Geass becoming a sheepfarm for a day

Wicked3DS February 1st, 2016 2:36 PM

I missed Blue Moon too. Somebody make another game I wanna play ;_;

Klippy February 1st, 2016 2:55 PM

If VIP 4 and Gotham end soon, we'll have Tokyo Ghoul and World of Ice and Fire starting before long. :O

esperance February 1st, 2016 3:22 PM

How long has it been since Game of Thrones 0:

Nakuzami February 1st, 2016 3:36 PM

Worry not, for Sansa yet lives

Draskk February 1st, 2016 3:59 PM

STOP WITH THE SPOILERS

Im a busy man and have not seen it so restrain youselves

Klippy February 1st, 2016 4:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lostelle (Post 9100364)
How long has it been since Game of Thrones 0:

Since April, I think. So a long while!

esperance February 1st, 2016 4:45 PM

I know we joke about it but it really did take almost a year for the sequel to get through the queue

Klippy February 1st, 2016 4:48 PM

I didn't queue it for half of that time though. I hosted tDD first and then queued World. :)

Ullion February 1st, 2016 4:54 PM

Pretty sure GoT mafia started in late June o.O It started when Blarzi1 finished, and it was the first game I joined. <3 (It also took place during the summer GT event, where eros hosted GAU)

So it's more like... half a year?

Klippy February 1st, 2016 4:57 PM

idk why I thought April. You're probably right and I'm too lazy to look at my thread history.

It probably takes about ~4 months to get through the queue, but if games finish every month, as is estimated, things go much quicker.

alisaie February 2nd, 2016 1:33 AM

Aaaaahhhhh I wanted to join once in a blue moon but my tablet wouldn't connect to my wifI for a while ugh ;; I need my charger.

faer February 2nd, 2016 4:12 AM

I was wondering if you could make sign ups for highly hyped games (especially small ones) by saying sign-up is open for X hours and then the GM will rng which 20 people of all who want to join.

tltr: I'm suggesting to use rng instead of first come first serve in sign-ups.

Wicked3DS February 2nd, 2016 5:03 AM

Screw it, just put a game up now.

What the heck is Tokyo Ghoul?

Quote:

Originally Posted by faer (Post 9101034)
I was wondering if you could make sign ups for highly hyped games (especially small ones) by saying sign-up is open for X hours and then the GM will rng which 20 people of all who want to join.

tltr: I'm suggesting to use rng instead of first come first serve in sign-ups.

I second this. Some of us can't be around 24/7 and games fill up way too fast, it really isn't fair. After all, some of us have lives you know.

Charlie Brown February 2nd, 2016 5:14 AM

And missing out because of timezones is lame ;____;

Salzorrah February 2nd, 2016 6:01 AM

id say im neutral at that point coz ive missed 2-3 signups because timezones, but then what if i joined first but i didnt get to be picked in the rng? both have pros and cons tho

Ullion February 2nd, 2016 6:05 AM

I agree with gunner. Neither method seems particularly "fair". I suppose this could be where her idea of "pre-sign ups" could come in handy?

JaDe.X105 February 2nd, 2016 6:28 AM

But then how soon do GMs start doing pre-sign up? And we would run into the same issue of timezones when the GM announces they are taking pre-sign ups?

I've also missed a few games due to not checking PC for a day or being asleep, though I think each time was for one of the smaller games so it would make sense that those fill up faster. I agree that both would have pros and cons, neither being truly "fair".

Maybe rather than making a game a specific size and allowing only a small group of people to join (or in the case of large games, waiting to get enough participation) there could be some way for the GM to see how many people would be interested in joining it so that they can build the game to roughly fit that amount. Of course, some people who initially said they would want to play might decide not to as the game starts, or we might get someone new to UG who wasn't here for the initial polling but wants to join. So the GM just needs to have a handful of vanilla characters (oh no, not the dreaded 'nilla role!) to allow additional people to play, or as a buffer if not enough people signed up. This might require waaay too many polls though, and we'd turn into a subforum that takes polls and occasionally plays Mafia :p

Ullion February 2nd, 2016 6:31 AM

I was thinking that there need not be any "set times" for when people can pre-sign up or whatever. If you just go down the list of games that are 'coming up' you could possibly just message the GM and say "Hey, I'm really interested in your game and I would hate to miss it. Could you hold a spot for me?" or something?

JaDe.X105 February 2nd, 2016 6:52 AM

But with that, we'd still run in to the first come first serve issue if everyone wants to join and PMs the GM. Unless the games sizes are dynamic, which they can't be to some extent due to the small/large queues, some people will get left out.

Salzorrah February 2nd, 2016 7:13 AM

im pretty sure with the current setup that we have, it would be impossible to reach a better alternative to the first come first serve thing

Wicked3DS February 2nd, 2016 8:23 AM

Something needs to change. No one should have to miss a game because they can't get on PC for one day. That's ridiculous.

faer February 2nd, 2016 9:49 AM

Well, I am assuming that there are no rules on how to do this, so any GM can do it as they like. I think that's fine.
If I'm ever going to host a game, I'd like to do it the lottery way.

Mana February 2nd, 2016 9:56 AM

Yeah it's up to GMs really :c.

I was actually worried I wouldn't get 20 so I was pleasently surprised when it only took three hours lmao. OuaT had 26(?) members as a large game, so I wasn't expecting such a turn out.

Sorry to those who didn't get in :c wanna reserve for my next big game? ;)

Klippy February 2nd, 2016 10:51 AM

Lottery maybe could be something to try, but the small games are concise and quick versions of games purposefully for this reason. They're so small that missing out on one isn't as detrimental as missing the SUs for large games.

Lycanthropy February 2nd, 2016 12:06 PM

At least the UG has mods from all over the world these days, which makes the timezone/game-approval-time matter mostly dependent on plain luck. I don't think it can get fairer than that.

Salzorrah February 2nd, 2016 12:43 PM

or atleast on till the wee hours of midnight lmao ;)

alisaie February 2nd, 2016 1:25 PM

I've missed like three small games either cause I've been asleep, work, or because I couldn't get online until it was too late. Just my luck but yeah, not much that can be done really

Nakuzami February 2nd, 2016 3:58 PM

For large games, be cool like me and make way too many roles or have weird twisted vanilla roles and accept as many people as you possibly can so that you can beat the initial sign-ups of Gods Among Us and then watch as half the players go inactive

but for small games, the actual cap is twenty (unless you're Nintendo maf pfft) so good luck have fun try not to kill each other before night zero even begins

alisaie February 2nd, 2016 4:17 PM

hahaha pretty much, i suppose. i'm definitely going to try to join whatever small game is next though because yeee charge get today.

i'd also say be active in the current games i'm in for once but lol they've all p much ended or about to end ;;

Nakuzami February 2nd, 2016 5:59 PM

hey, look at what's finally appeared

there will be another little tidbit coming soon. kek

Wicked3DS February 2nd, 2016 9:12 PM

Is there a way to limit how many games people are in? I know people may not like this, but there's people who are probably in every single active game and here I am not even in one, which honestly, really sucks. Why don't we give everyone a chance to play at least one game?

Nakuzami February 2nd, 2016 9:15 PM

That's only an issue with small games, though, and many people simply elect to not join some.

There's flaws to be worked out, but limiting a player's options isn't a proper solution.

Klippy February 2nd, 2016 10:47 PM

There's a fine balance between supply and demand that we're trying to meet. We risk opening the floodgates and find people aren't signing up as quickly (holidays, school's back, etc.), but if there's a serious need for more content or games, we're filling those gaps with events (one currently stickied) and beginner games for newbies (Mafia 102 coming soon).

alisaie February 3rd, 2016 2:44 AM

Code geass was a big game. Nintendo is a small game. Nit the best comparison :x

Best we can do is allow more small games to run which I'd totally be okay with. And if they slow down we limit the number again. On our parts trying to approve games at different time of day might help too, I suppose?? Idk when the last few games were approved because I hadn't been online :(

But before that let the events pan out. Mafia events can't be constructed overnight.

Wicked3DS February 3rd, 2016 5:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyMustang (Post 9102072)
These would be a bit unfair. That is why I'm saying that the limit should be expanded rather than to limit not only the games running at the same time but the number of games you can join.

Why is it unfair? Someone gets to to take up spots four games, but I have trouble getting in one?

Something needs to change. There's no reason that someone should miss a game because of one day of inactivity.

alisaie February 3rd, 2016 6:06 AM

The only other thing I can think of is a small announcement a little before we approve a game to let people know so they can try and be on. But I wouldn't delay a game a whole day maybe a few hours a most? Unless people are *okay* with it.

Salzorrah February 3rd, 2016 6:08 AM

Personally, I think that limiting people's games is a bad idea, because they are just having fun as much as you do.

In the case of small games, it isn't the early bird's fault if they got a spot first and they have to be punished by it or something.

As for the queue, I agree with probably opening up 1 more large game, just because how the large to small queue ratio is really unbalanced. The small queue is designed to move faster, but then there are just so few of them queued up unlike the large queue, which would actually take you 6 months just to start.

Or, maybe we change how the queue works and instead of arranging it by game size, we should probably do it by something else... :/

2 cents on this :x

alisaie February 3rd, 2016 6:26 AM

I honestly don't think the queue is the problem. Nor the big games as everyone as time to sign up for those. But small games, having limited spots, make it difficult for those who have a schedule.

I wouldn't oppose opening up a large game. But it won't solve the small game problem. And if people are consistently missing games then it's a problem. It's not just a case of "early bird" as its likely because they have a schedule. They don't have time to check pc constantly. But if we have an announcement of sorts that gives a little heads up and if they can at least catch that they can work something out to be on when the game goes up.

And while it will still be first come first serve I believe it might just be a little more fair.

Salzorrah February 3rd, 2016 7:56 AM

I'm all in with announcements before the game is out for sign ups.

Wicked3DS February 3rd, 2016 9:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eros (Post 9102540)
No. People should not be limited to the games they join. Some people can handle that many games at once, others can't. I'm someone who can't, but I don't see the fairness or logic in stopping someone like Nakuzami who can literally juggle like 5 or something games at once because some people might miss out on a small game. Small games are always gonna be hard to get in, especially with the demand, but I don't see the point in stopping these games either as some people make their games small for a reason and players often enjoy the dynamics of a smaller game.

I've missed out on so many small games because I work. I'm cool with that. It's a system that works. The only way the system is made unfair is if players can pre-reserve spots in small games, like what happened with Nintendo.

Point is; people should be free to make their own restrictions for themselves for how many games they're in, otherwise that's when things get unfair.

The juggling has nothing to do with why I want a limit, I want a limit so that people who aren't in any games aren't getting their toes stepped on by those who are in 4+ games.

Wicked3DS February 3rd, 2016 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eros (Post 9102641)
Not their problem, sorry.

What's that supposed to mean? Why is it necessary for people to be in 4 games? Why not let some other people have a chance?

Mana February 3rd, 2016 10:17 AM

There are two new games in signups now o: there's something for everyone.

:)

Wicked3DS February 3rd, 2016 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eros (Post 9102649)
I don't see why it's a big deal why people enjoy being in a lot of games at once. If you're really bothered and you want to join a game then I dunno, contact the GM and say you might not be online to join but you want a place. However that opens up a whole other can of worms in the sense that Nintendo was already fully booked up and that was a little unfair.

It has nothing to do with enjoyment, you're missing my point entirely.

My point is that some of us have been unable to get into games because other people are taking up space in a lot of games, thus not leaving space for certain others. If the amount of games was limited, there would be more room for other people to get in to games.

Mana February 3rd, 2016 10:27 AM

But there are enough games to go around. Missing a small game isn't the end of the world, missing a big game would be much more frustrating but I don't recall us having that issue due to numbers.

Looking at other small games recently, Dragons had 24 hours ish of signups, so timezones weren't an issue at least. Toontown was 12 hours, Mafia Falls over 48 hours.

It's not often an issue, and I'd rather not limit active players fun. :(

Wicked3DS February 3rd, 2016 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mana (Post 9102661)
But there are enough games to go around. Missing a small game isn't the end of the world, missing a big game would be much more frustrating but I don't recall us having that issue due to numbers.

Looking at other small games recently, Dragons had 24 hours ish of signups, so timezones weren't an issue at least. Toontown was 12 hours, Mafia Falls over 48 hours.

It's not often an issue, and I'd rather not limit active players fun. :(

Some of us already have limited fun :/

Salzorrah February 3rd, 2016 1:32 PM

To reiterate, it is also not your fault too. It wasn't just your lucky day.

faer February 3rd, 2016 3:14 PM

I think you should look again into opening another game spot. And maybe also into trying again to be more dynamic about the number of games running with the aim of having sign-ups more steady (as in don't have a week without sign-ups, then three sign-ups in three days). I know it happens sometime (like I think about 5 games ended in the past few days?)... but I think it would help if in such cases you'd approve some games early, so that people, especially those that're already dead in most still running games, can start a new one. (and I'm not thinking two days early but rather one or two week early)

alisaie February 3rd, 2016 3:39 PM

I still stand on announcing future games being really the only viable solution without really putting any restrictions on players which is the last thing that I want to do. That is if anything needs to be done to at least we're showing effort in trying to fix something :/

Other than allowing more games again we'll see about this you don't have to bring it up ten times.

Nakuzami February 3rd, 2016 3:46 PM

I'd like to point out that, while OiaBM, a small game, filled up rather quickly, less than three days later, two large games have already opened up. Lol

faer February 3rd, 2016 4:07 PM

I'll try to drop it.

Shall I salt a bit about eing the OiaBM Night Zero kill instead?
I'm so *** happy I decided to join CG and already signed up for AWoIaF with getting removed from MoSD N2 and now OiaBM N0... When I got N3'd in Grandmafia I thought it was because someone got a hunch I'm the Wise old man or at least some important role... but...
In the future I shall sign up for more games expecting to get killed as one of the first victims anyway >.< Or maybe I should tell the GM beforehand I wanna be mafia, so I don't get to be a night kill...
Well, at least AWoIaF doesn't have a mafia, so let's see how that goes.

Nakuzami February 3rd, 2016 4:23 PM

Brienne of Tarth returns from the grave and claims the iron throne

that's how it's gonna go.

alisaie February 3rd, 2016 4:32 PM

The chicken was very lovely, I believe Eros. :')

Wicked3DS February 3rd, 2016 4:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyMustang (Post 9102911)
Wiicked. There won't a limit to the amount of games you can't join. It is not fair, as Eros said, some people can handle it and it's not fair to them.

I already said that it's not about handling the games. Not to be rude, but why does everyone keep bringing up points that aren't the reason I even suggested that in the first place?

There's only 20 sign-ups for a new game. Yes, people are going to miss out. But why does someone who's in no games have to miss out as opposed to someone who's in four?

I'm finished after this, I just want everyone to see the real reason I brought up limiting games, which as I said twice now, has nothing to do with being able to handle it, but about opportunity. Maybe some of you would be willing to be more courteous and let people who are in no games to actually get a chance to play.

Nakuzami February 3rd, 2016 4:53 PM

I guess courtesy goes out the window when you're trying to murder each other for fun.

alisaie February 3rd, 2016 4:56 PM

Out goes the courtesy in comes the parrot with a flamethrower.

Really though, it's time to drop it. The endless cycle of the same thing being said is getting tedious to read and not helping anything.

alisaie February 3rd, 2016 4:58 PM

Hi Eros how're you.

alisaie February 3rd, 2016 5:26 PM

Nah, apparently I'm the only mod in the UG and can change everything at will.

I already said it'll be discussed. So why don't you listen and stop parroting since you've said it ten times in the past like.... 10-24 hours. Most of those hours I was at work or sleeping.

And I'm doing pretty super fabulouso Eros thank you for asking. :D

Nakuzami February 3rd, 2016 5:43 PM

Oh my goodness

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ash (Post 9102970)
Other than allowing more games again we'll see about this you don't have to bring it up ten times.


alisaie February 3rd, 2016 5:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ash (Post 9102970)
Other than allowing more games again we'll see about this you don't have to bring it up ten times.

o ok.

HAHAHA thank you naku. ♥

Nakuzami February 3rd, 2016 5:43 PM

Twinning

alisaie February 3rd, 2016 5:53 PM

It'd be even better if you enjoy a glass of champange with me tonight, Eros.

Nakuzami February 3rd, 2016 5:56 PM

Would it be better or worse if I compulsively corrected your spelling of champagne

you were so close, yet so far

alisaie February 3rd, 2016 6:00 PM

So close yet so far. ;; I didn't even realize I thought I did have it spelled that way lmao.

Uh-huh, and? I see no point in repeating now that I brought up that we'll see about it. tyvm have a nice day I'm gonna have Champagne with Eros now. .

alisaie February 3rd, 2016 6:11 PM

Honestly I think you misread every single one of my posts in your conquest.

But okay I will. :)

alisaie February 3rd, 2016 6:19 PM

I have Cheez-its want some.

Bidoof FTW February 3rd, 2016 6:25 PM

Cheez-its are so wonderful

Nakuzami February 3rd, 2016 6:26 PM

Cheez-Its and popcorn? Hmm . . . I feel like these are snacks for separate times.

Well, if we have all these snacks and champagne, perhaps we should turn this hootenanny into a shindig?

alisaie February 3rd, 2016 6:29 PM

Cheez-its are the best ok.

And yes, that sounds likea fabulous plan Naku.

esperance February 3rd, 2016 6:40 PM

What are Hugos

esperance February 3rd, 2016 6:51 PM

Fancy schmancy

esperance February 3rd, 2016 6:53 PM

It looks sophisticated as hell and like the kinda drink I'd wanna try if I did the alcohol thing

alisaie February 3rd, 2016 9:32 PM

Yo I'd totally try that



If Eros made it for me

Mana February 3rd, 2016 11:23 PM

It's 7:22am but can I have one too ;-;.

Charlie Brown February 4th, 2016 2:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mana (Post 9103618)
It's 7:22am but can I have one too ;-;.

yesss there is no judgment here, it's never too early to start 8)

Charlie Brown February 4th, 2016 2:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eros (Post 9103750)
Can I open a UG bar.

Yes or yes

UG bar you say?

http://www.jayforce.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/the-great-gatsby.gif

Legendary Silke February 4th, 2016 4:28 AM

I think it'd be nice if I actually ran a Civilization mafia. For some reason. :)

Legendary Silke February 4th, 2016 5:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bardothren (Post 9103874)
You and your civilization fetish. At least use a game that more accurately captures the nuances of political negotiations... like Call of Duty :P

I'll take my Ghandi with nukes. :)

Salzorrah February 4th, 2016 6:33 AM

hi babes, still salty from when JOHNNY MISCOUNTED from Nintendo, and would like one drink pls :)

Wicked3DS February 4th, 2016 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davepetasprite^2 (Post 9103924)
hi babes, still salty from when JOHNNY MISCOUNTED from Nintendo, and would like one drink pls :)

Does that mean you wouldn't have died?

Does that mean I wouldn't have died?

Does that mean I should be salty too?

Who's Kiyo? February 4th, 2016 10:00 AM

hello is this where i drink away my feelings



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