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he got culted at least, so you couldn't have felt that bad.
Even though you didnt know he was cult until after shooting ;) |
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I think maybe if I'm doing a large game, I really should make it a co-hosted game. It's a bit tight as is right now...
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im just gonna say this
MSD is quickly becoming one of my favorite mafia games to date, and is joining Blarz 1, TTA 2, and Rocket :3 |
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Hi! Came to say sorry to many GMs for maybe ruining their games. I've been inactive and got kicked out of the games. Sorry guys! Hope you understand.
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I don't think your absence made much of a difference in most of them, lol. I think you had joined Babylon? That only made it about two phases in before ending on its own. |
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I think I might end up being a killer GM in my first time out... :O
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So I see the new "event idea" thing
Should this be motivation to finally figure out the mechanics for Until Dawnfia and/or tEMafia? We shall see. . . . |
You know, I wonder if my game would have been so crazy if I didn't rip off copy use influences from Bardothren... (heh.)
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I'd need enough hosts to cover both sides of the world, though, since I don't want people to have a "cheat away" 8-hour period. |
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If you're planning to do this again, I think I'd love to co-host a game. |
That is a lot of work for a Day 2 update... ;.;
And I was playing Civ V, so I kind of let it slide a little bit. Oops! |
TT mafia finally done, anyone can post in it now xD
Man GMing is hard, idk how you guys do it |
I am so ready for Once in a Blue Moon
People go join so we can do this |
Miss one day of internet and Nintendo turns into a clusterfuck and I miss Once in a Blue Moon
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I missed Blue Moon too. Somebody make another game I wanna play ;_;
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If VIP 4 and Gotham end soon, we'll have Tokyo Ghoul and World of Ice and Fire starting before long. :O
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Worry not, for Sansa yet lives
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STOP WITH THE SPOILERS
Im a busy man and have not seen it so restrain youselves |
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I know we joke about it but it really did take almost a year for the sequel to get through the queue
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I didn't queue it for half of that time though. I hosted tDD first and then queued World. :)
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Pretty sure GoT mafia started in late June o.O It started when Blarzi1 finished, and it was the first game I joined. <3 (It also took place during the summer GT event, where eros hosted GAU)
So it's more like... half a year? |
idk why I thought April. You're probably right and I'm too lazy to look at my thread history.
It probably takes about ~4 months to get through the queue, but if games finish every month, as is estimated, things go much quicker. |
Aaaaahhhhh I wanted to join once in a blue moon but my tablet wouldn't connect to my wifI for a while ugh ;; I need my charger.
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I was wondering if you could make sign ups for highly hyped games (especially small ones) by saying sign-up is open for X hours and then the GM will rng which 20 people of all who want to join.
tltr: I'm suggesting to use rng instead of first come first serve in sign-ups. |
Screw it, just put a game up now.
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And missing out because of timezones is lame ;____;
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id say im neutral at that point coz ive missed 2-3 signups because timezones, but then what if i joined first but i didnt get to be picked in the rng? both have pros and cons tho
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I agree with gunner. Neither method seems particularly "fair". I suppose this could be where her idea of "pre-sign ups" could come in handy?
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But then how soon do GMs start doing pre-sign up? And we would run into the same issue of timezones when the GM announces they are taking pre-sign ups?
I've also missed a few games due to not checking PC for a day or being asleep, though I think each time was for one of the smaller games so it would make sense that those fill up faster. I agree that both would have pros and cons, neither being truly "fair". Maybe rather than making a game a specific size and allowing only a small group of people to join (or in the case of large games, waiting to get enough participation) there could be some way for the GM to see how many people would be interested in joining it so that they can build the game to roughly fit that amount. Of course, some people who initially said they would want to play might decide not to as the game starts, or we might get someone new to UG who wasn't here for the initial polling but wants to join. So the GM just needs to have a handful of vanilla characters (oh no, not the dreaded 'nilla role!) to allow additional people to play, or as a buffer if not enough people signed up. This might require waaay too many polls though, and we'd turn into a subforum that takes polls and occasionally plays Mafia :p |
I was thinking that there need not be any "set times" for when people can pre-sign up or whatever. If you just go down the list of games that are 'coming up' you could possibly just message the GM and say "Hey, I'm really interested in your game and I would hate to miss it. Could you hold a spot for me?" or something?
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But with that, we'd still run in to the first come first serve issue if everyone wants to join and PMs the GM. Unless the games sizes are dynamic, which they can't be to some extent due to the small/large queues, some people will get left out.
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im pretty sure with the current setup that we have, it would be impossible to reach a better alternative to the first come first serve thing
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Something needs to change. No one should have to miss a game because they can't get on PC for one day. That's ridiculous.
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Well, I am assuming that there are no rules on how to do this, so any GM can do it as they like. I think that's fine.
If I'm ever going to host a game, I'd like to do it the lottery way. |
Yeah it's up to GMs really :c.
I was actually worried I wouldn't get 20 so I was pleasently surprised when it only took three hours lmao. OuaT had 26(?) members as a large game, so I wasn't expecting such a turn out. Sorry to those who didn't get in :c wanna reserve for my next big game? ;) |
Lottery maybe could be something to try, but the small games are concise and quick versions of games purposefully for this reason. They're so small that missing out on one isn't as detrimental as missing the SUs for large games.
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At least the UG has mods from all over the world these days, which makes the timezone/game-approval-time matter mostly dependent on plain luck. I don't think it can get fairer than that.
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or atleast on till the wee hours of midnight lmao ;)
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I've missed like three small games either cause I've been asleep, work, or because I couldn't get online until it was too late. Just my luck but yeah, not much that can be done really
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For large games, be cool like me and make way too many roles or have weird twisted vanilla roles and accept as many people as you possibly can so that you can beat the initial sign-ups of Gods Among Us and then watch as half the players go inactive
but for small games, the actual cap is twenty (unless you're Nintendo maf pfft) so good luck have fun try not to kill each other before night zero even begins |
hahaha pretty much, i suppose. i'm definitely going to try to join whatever small game is next though because yeee charge get today.
i'd also say be active in the current games i'm in for once but lol they've all p much ended or about to end ;; |
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Is there a way to limit how many games people are in? I know people may not like this, but there's people who are probably in every single active game and here I am not even in one, which honestly, really sucks. Why don't we give everyone a chance to play at least one game?
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That's only an issue with small games, though, and many people simply elect to not join some.
There's flaws to be worked out, but limiting a player's options isn't a proper solution. |
There's a fine balance between supply and demand that we're trying to meet. We risk opening the floodgates and find people aren't signing up as quickly (holidays, school's back, etc.), but if there's a serious need for more content or games, we're filling those gaps with events (one currently stickied) and beginner games for newbies (Mafia 102 coming soon).
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Code geass was a big game. Nintendo is a small game. Nit the best comparison :x
Best we can do is allow more small games to run which I'd totally be okay with. And if they slow down we limit the number again. On our parts trying to approve games at different time of day might help too, I suppose?? Idk when the last few games were approved because I hadn't been online :( But before that let the events pan out. Mafia events can't be constructed overnight. |
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The only other thing I can think of is a small announcement a little before we approve a game to let people know so they can try and be on. But I wouldn't delay a game a whole day maybe a few hours a most? Unless people are *okay* with it.
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Personally, I think that limiting people's games is a bad idea, because they are just having fun as much as you do.
In the case of small games, it isn't the early bird's fault if they got a spot first and they have to be punished by it or something. As for the queue, I agree with probably opening up 1 more large game, just because how the large to small queue ratio is really unbalanced. The small queue is designed to move faster, but then there are just so few of them queued up unlike the large queue, which would actually take you 6 months just to start. Or, maybe we change how the queue works and instead of arranging it by game size, we should probably do it by something else... :/ 2 cents on this :x |
I honestly don't think the queue is the problem. Nor the big games as everyone as time to sign up for those. But small games, having limited spots, make it difficult for those who have a schedule.
I wouldn't oppose opening up a large game. But it won't solve the small game problem. And if people are consistently missing games then it's a problem. It's not just a case of "early bird" as its likely because they have a schedule. They don't have time to check pc constantly. But if we have an announcement of sorts that gives a little heads up and if they can at least catch that they can work something out to be on when the game goes up. And while it will still be first come first serve I believe it might just be a little more fair. |
I'm all in with announcements before the game is out for sign ups.
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There are two new games in signups now o: there's something for everyone.
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My point is that some of us have been unable to get into games because other people are taking up space in a lot of games, thus not leaving space for certain others. If the amount of games was limited, there would be more room for other people to get in to games. |
But there are enough games to go around. Missing a small game isn't the end of the world, missing a big game would be much more frustrating but I don't recall us having that issue due to numbers.
Looking at other small games recently, Dragons had 24 hours ish of signups, so timezones weren't an issue at least. Toontown was 12 hours, Mafia Falls over 48 hours. It's not often an issue, and I'd rather not limit active players fun. :( |
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To reiterate, it is also not your fault too. It wasn't just your lucky day.
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I think you should look again into opening another game spot. And maybe also into trying again to be more dynamic about the number of games running with the aim of having sign-ups more steady (as in don't have a week without sign-ups, then three sign-ups in three days). I know it happens sometime (like I think about 5 games ended in the past few days?)... but I think it would help if in such cases you'd approve some games early, so that people, especially those that're already dead in most still running games, can start a new one. (and I'm not thinking two days early but rather one or two week early)
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I still stand on announcing future games being really the only viable solution without really putting any restrictions on players which is the last thing that I want to do. That is if anything needs to be done to at least we're showing effort in trying to fix something :/
Other than allowing more games again we'll see about this you don't have to bring it up ten times. |
I'd like to point out that, while OiaBM, a small game, filled up rather quickly, less than three days later, two large games have already opened up. Lol
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I'll try to drop it.
Shall I salt a bit about eing the OiaBM Night Zero kill instead? I'm so *** happy I decided to join CG and already signed up for AWoIaF with getting removed from MoSD N2 and now OiaBM N0... When I got N3'd in Grandmafia I thought it was because someone got a hunch I'm the Wise old man or at least some important role... but... In the future I shall sign up for more games expecting to get killed as one of the first victims anyway >.< Or maybe I should tell the GM beforehand I wanna be mafia, so I don't get to be a night kill... Well, at least AWoIaF doesn't have a mafia, so let's see how that goes. |
Brienne of Tarth returns from the grave and claims the iron throne
that's how it's gonna go. |
The chicken was very lovely, I believe Eros. :')
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There's only 20 sign-ups for a new game. Yes, people are going to miss out. But why does someone who's in no games have to miss out as opposed to someone who's in four? I'm finished after this, I just want everyone to see the real reason I brought up limiting games, which as I said twice now, has nothing to do with being able to handle it, but about opportunity. Maybe some of you would be willing to be more courteous and let people who are in no games to actually get a chance to play. |
I guess courtesy goes out the window when you're trying to murder each other for fun.
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Out goes the courtesy in comes the parrot with a flamethrower.
Really though, it's time to drop it. The endless cycle of the same thing being said is getting tedious to read and not helping anything. |
Hi Eros how're you.
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Nah, apparently I'm the only mod in the UG and can change everything at will.
I already said it'll be discussed. So why don't you listen and stop parroting since you've said it ten times in the past like.... 10-24 hours. Most of those hours I was at work or sleeping. And I'm doing pretty super fabulouso Eros thank you for asking. :D |
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HAHAHA thank you naku. ♥ |
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It'd be even better if you enjoy a glass of champange with me tonight, Eros.
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Would it be better or worse if I compulsively corrected your spelling of champagne
you were so close, yet so far |
So close yet so far. ;; I didn't even realize I thought I did have it spelled that way lmao.
Uh-huh, and? I see no point in repeating now that I brought up that we'll see about it. tyvm have a nice day I'm gonna have Champagne with Eros now. . |
Honestly I think you misread every single one of my posts in your conquest.
But okay I will. :) |
I have Cheez-its want some.
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Cheez-its are so wonderful
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Cheez-Its and popcorn? Hmm . . . I feel like these are snacks for separate times.
Well, if we have all these snacks and champagne, perhaps we should turn this hootenanny into a shindig? |
Cheez-its are the best ok.
And yes, that sounds likea fabulous plan Naku. |
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Fancy schmancy
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It looks sophisticated as hell and like the kinda drink I'd wanna try if I did the alcohol thing
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Yo I'd totally try that
If Eros made it for me |
It's 7:22am but can I have one too ;-;.
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I think it'd be nice if I actually ran a Civilization mafia. For some reason. :)
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hi babes, still salty from when JOHNNY MISCOUNTED from Nintendo, and would like one drink pls :)
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hello is this where i drink away my feelings |
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