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Reaver2kull September 28th, 2015 8:38 AM

What do you think of my ORAS team?
 
Here's my team atm. I also have a parahax jirachi and landorus that I may want to use js.
Blaziken
Hp:302(evs 4)
Att:372(evs 252)
Def:176
Sp att:230
Sp def:176
Spe:259(evs 252)
Ability:speed boost
Nature:Adamant
Item:muscle band
Moves:high jump kick
Flare Blitz
Protect
Brave Bird

Aegislash
Hp:261
Att:218(evs 252)
Def:362(evs 106)
Sp att:122
Sp def:374(evs 152)
Spe:125
Ability:stance change
Nature:Adamant
Item:weakness policy
Moves:shadow claw
Swords dance
Iron head
King's shield

Thundurus-I
Hp:300(evs:4)
Att:239
Def:176
Sp att:349(evs 252)
Sp def:196
Spe:353(evs 252)
Ability:prankster
Nature:timid
Item:wise glasses
Moves:thunder wave
Focus blast
Grass knot
Thunderbolt

Kangaskhan
Hp:354(evs 12)
Att:317(evs 252)
Def:196
Sp att:104
Sp def:196
Spe:277(evs 246)
Ability:scrappy
Nature:Adamant
Item:Kangaskhanite
Moves:sucker Punch
Earthquake
Fake Out
Return

Greninja
Hp:286(evs 4)
Att:226
Def:153
Sp att:305(evs 252)
Sp def:171
Spe:377(evs 252)
Ability:protean
Nature:hasty
Item:life orb
Moves:hydro pump
U-turn
Ice beam
Dark pulse

Gengar
Hp:262(evs 4)
Att:148
Def:156
Sp att:358(evs 252)
Sp def:186
Spe:349(evs 252)
Ability:levitate
Nature:timid
Item:black sludge
Moves:shadow ball
Substitute
Giga drain
Focus blast

Any suggestions or feedback would be appreciated.
FYI I will most likely be using this team for single or triple battles.

PlatinumDude September 28th, 2015 8:58 AM

A quick question: is this for Battle Spot, or for full-on competitive battling?

Reaver2kull September 28th, 2015 9:07 AM

I would say it's for battle spot, since that's what I have used it for. It would be nice to do full-on competitive battling tho.

PlatinumDude September 28th, 2015 11:59 AM

Blaziken, Aegislash, Mega Kangaskhan, and Greninja are Uber Pokemon; they can't be used in OU teams. OU is the standard environment. Uber is a ban list for the Pokemon that are too good for OU and is a tier within itself as well.

If this team is for Battle Spot:

Brave Bird doesn't let Blaziken do anything noteworthy. Muscle Band's boost isn't high enough to make it worth using. Here's a better take on Blaziken:
-Flare Blitz
-High Jump Kick/Low Kick
-Knock Off/Stone Edge/Protect
-Swords Dance/Protect
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Blazikenite
Ability: Speed Boost

The Swords Dance + King's Shield combination is easy to play around against experienced players, as on the turn you use King's Shield, Aegislash may risk getting burned or being set up on. Here are better takes:
-Shadow Ball
-Shadow Sneak/Sacred Sword
-Iron Head/Flash Cannon/Sacred Sword
-King's Shield
Nature: Quiet
EVs: 244 HP/12 Def/252 SAtk
Item: Leftovers/Weakness Policy

or
-Substitute
-Toxic
-King's Shield
-Shadow Ball/Flash Cannon
Nature: Modest/Timid
EVs: 252 HP/252 SAtk/4 SDef (Modest) or 252 HP/4 SDef/252 Spe (Timid)
Item: Leftovers

or
-Iron Head/Shadow Claw
-Shadow Sneak
-Sacred Sword
-King's Shield
Nature: Adamant/Brave
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 SDef
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers/Weakness Policy

Greninja really needs Gunk Shot. In X/Y, it struggled to deal with healthy Fairy Pokemon with Hydro Pump alone, and in OR/AS, it gained Gunk Shot as an extra coverage move for Fairies:
-Hydro Pump/Low Kick
-Ice Beam
-Gunk Shot
-Dark Pulse/Grass Knot/Hidden Power (Fire)
Nature: Naive
EVs: 40 HP/216 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Protean

If this is for standard play:

Remove Blaziken, Greninja, Aegislash, and Mega Kangaskhan. They're Ubers as I already mentioned. Substitutes are Infernape, Azumarill, Feraligatr, Wash Rotom, and Diggersby. Include Jirachi and Therian forme Landorus, as neither are Ubers

Infernape:
-Fire Blast/Flare Blitz
-Close Combat
-Gunk Shot
-Mach Punch/Thunder Punch/Grass Knot/Hidden Power (Ice)
Nature: Naive
EVs: 100 Atk/156 SAtk/252 Spe or 188 Atk/68 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

Azumarill:
-Waterfall
-Aqua Jet
-Play Rough
-Superpower/Knock Off
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 172 HP/252 Atk/84 Spe (Choice Band) or 240 HP/252 Atk/16 SDef (Assault Vest)
Item: Choice Band/Assault Vest
Ability: Huge Power

or
-Belly Drum
-Aqua Jet
-Play Rough
-Knock Off
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 92 HP/252 Atk/164 Spe
Item: Sitrus Berry
Ability: Huge Power

Feraligatr:
-Dragon Dance
-Waterfall
-Ice Punch/Crunch
-Superpower/Crunch
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force

or
-Swords Dance
-Waterfall/Aqua Jet
-Aqua Jet/Ice Punch
-Superpower/Crunch
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 144 HP/252 Atk/112 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force

Wash Rotom:
-Volt Switch
-Hydro Pump
-Will-o-Wisp
-Pain Split/Rest
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Chesto Berry

Diggersby:
-Return
-Earthquake
-Quick Attack
-Swords Dance/Fire Punch
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash
Ability: Huge Power

or
-Return
-Earthquake
-U-turn
-Wild Charge/Knock Off
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf
Ability: Huge Power

Jirachi:
-Stealth Rock
-Iron Head
-Fire Punch/Body Slam/Thunder Wave
-U-turn
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP/176 SDef/80 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Wish
-Protect
-Iron Head
-Toxic/Body Slam/Thunder Wave
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP/224 SDef/32 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Substitute
-Toxic/Thunder Wave/Body Slam
-Iron Head
-Fire Punch
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 HP/96 Atk/160 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Iron Head
-Fire Punch/Ice Punch
-U-turn
-Healing Wish/Trick
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

or
-Iron Head
-Icy Wind
-Hidden Power (Ground/Fire)
-Thunderbolt/Stealth Rock/Healing Wish
Nature: Mild
EVs: 132 Atk/160 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Expert Belt

Therian Landorus:
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge/Rock Slide/Knock Off
-U-turn
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/240 Def/8 SDef/8 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Rocky Helmet

or
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge/Knock Off
-U-turn/Explosion
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 72 HP/252 Atk/184 Spe
Item: Soft Sand/Earth Plate/Focus Sash

or
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Knock Off/Superpower/Explosion
-U-turn
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

or
-Swords Dance
-Rock Polish/Substitute
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
Nature: Adamant (Rock Polish)/Jolly (Substitute)
EVs: 56 HP/220 Atk/252 Spe (Rock Polish) or 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe (Substitute)
Item: Leftovers/Soft Sand/Earth Plate (Rock Polish)/Salac Berry (Substitute)

Reaver2kull September 28th, 2015 12:32 PM

Thanks for updating me on the meta. I haven't payed any attention to the list of ubers. You are very detailed and informative in the information you presented me. Looks like I'll have a lot of tinkering to do, especially if I want to be in the competitive scene. Btw you didn't say anything about Thundurus-I. Is he viable in the meta or is landorus better?

PlatinumDude September 28th, 2015 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaver2kull (Post 8946336)
Thanks for updating me on the meta. I haven't payed any attention to the list of ubers. You are very detailed and informative in the information you presented me. Looks like I'll have a lot of tinkering to do, especially if I want to be in the competitive scene. Btw you didn't say anything about Thundurus-I. Is he viable in the meta or is landorus better?

Incarnate Thundurus is still viable, yes. Prankster Thunder Waves are a useful thing to have.


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