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Pecilia October 31st, 2015 5:50 AM

Just pointing out some things:
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Can recruit one player to the neighborhood (a skype chat) once a night. If Mr. Roger's targets a Whippersnapper, he has a 50% chance to turn them into a Respectable Child and add them to the neighborhood. If he fails, Mr. Rogers dies of disappointment. If Mr. Rogers recruits a third party role, they kill him.
He'd die if he recruited Mana, it's best to assume that a Skype chat never happened.

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Every night, she can give out flowers to two people. If those two people are of the same alignment, they fall in love (not the same as being lovers). If not, the action fails. The Florist has a solo win if everyone alive in the game is in love, as well as also winning with the Nursing Home.

When two people are in love, they learn the other person's identity. That's about it.
Emphasis on them not being lovers, but that's it.

Nimsy October 31st, 2015 6:50 AM

I think we should vote for johnny mustang, because it's pretty odd to ask for a reveal so early

also,DON'T ****ING VOTE FOR ME FOR A RANDOM GUESS, I DIDN'T EVEN VOTE FOR YOUR DUMB ASS.

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Not to mention that writing a whole damn paragraph and instantly voting for a person that just mentioned you is pretty damn suss.

Bidoof FTW October 31st, 2015 7:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lawlietta (Post 8981794)
Ok so. I'm thinking Bard was the one who killed Klippy, because as the Insomniac he reveals who visited him. Mana visited him first (maybe that made them lovers or maybe the Florist did that), but we don't know what he did. However the second time Klippy was visited, he was killed. The person who visited him was Bard. So I don't know about you but I think that does give us a very obvious target for today's lynch.

Klippy was the widow, not the insomniac, or the florist. The widow.
Also Pecelia I literally made a post like 4 posts above yours saying that Klippy was the widow then you ask how Klippy and Mana were married.
COME ON PEOPLE IT'S ONLY DAY ONE

Since Johnny seemed keen on someone role revealing day 1, which I find suss as **** considering it's a really really bad idea.
[Execute] JonathanMustang

JaDe.X105 October 31st, 2015 7:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Golgari (Post 8981910)
I literally made a post like 4 posts above yours saying that Klippy was the widow

I think Golgari made a pretty good assessment of the post. As I was reading it, I was thinking that possibly Grandma and Gramps had already found each other, but since Mana was 3rd party, Klippy=Widow is the only valid explanation.

I'm not sure about Mana or Bard's roles, but I think both of them visiting the Insomniac was just coincidental. And this really wouldn't point to Bard being the Alien... Although Mana being the Gov't Agent does seem likely from the "Shouldn't he be off doing what he came here for?" comment.

As for the Moody Teenager, was something actually given to him to "brood over," or can we really determine that they were inactive? And it seems pretty likely that when the Brat stormed off, they went and killed Klippy (unless there's a vigilante role we're not thinking of).

Finally, since Mr. Rogers didn't die and the Skype chat never happened, I think it's safe to say he didn't go after a Whippersnapper or a 3rd party. Or perhaps he tried to recruit Mana or Klippy, and since they died the chat still didn't happen..

Candy October 31st, 2015 7:36 AM

Bard rolls with extremely long posts. You should be glad that his posts now are half as long as back at Blarz 1.

Also, I'm seriously confused on how some of you fail to tell that Klippers is the Widow...

It's really common sense. There's only one way to become lovers in this game: by becoming the Widow and then marrying someone. Since Klippers is part of the nursing home, and Mana is a third-party role, that means the Widow must be Klippers.

Legendary Silke October 31st, 2015 7:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Nimsy (Post 8981895)
I think we should vote for johnny mustang, because it's pretty odd to ask for a reveal so early

also,DON'T ****ING VOTE FOR ME FOR A RANDOM GUESS, I DIDN'T EVEN VOTE FOR YOUR DUMB ASS.

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Not to mention that writing a whole damn paragraph and instantly voting for a person that just mentioned you is pretty damn suss.

If you want to complain about a random vote towards you, you should think about the fact that you random guessed someone without any possible proof in the first place. Smells like a hypocrite.

Everything Bard said makes sense, point-by-point. I don't mind it being absurdly long if one can argue nicely ;)

Either way, well...

[Execute] Nimsy

Nimsy October 31st, 2015 7:59 AM

I haven't even voted yet, slow your roll.

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I have literally done nothing more than guess.

Legendary Silke October 31st, 2015 8:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nimsy (Post 8981951)
I haven't even voted yet, slow your roll.

Still not a good idea to throw accusations around, especially this early in the game.

Best to pray to the random number god(dess) of your choice for now.

Bidoof FTW October 31st, 2015 8:01 AM

Are you guys ****ing kidding me

Just when I thought we had a really bad Nimsywagon

It's starting again. AND LAST TIME SHE WAS RIGHT!

Nimsy October 31st, 2015 8:08 AM

So throwing out some random theories/ guesses is bad?

The answer is no.

You're right, it's day one.
But on day one we're supposed to bounce theories off each other.
That's the only way to have a somewhat educated lynch.

Bidoof FTW October 31st, 2015 8:28 AM

Since Johnny is talking mad trash in Skype but won't actually bring it in the thread where it belongs I'll address his thoughts here.
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Originally Posted by Golgari
It's starting again. AND LAST TIME SHE WAS RIGHT!

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Originally Posted by JonathanMustang
And this you call logic
Do not bandwagon her because last time she was right.

First of all, that wasn't the point at all. You're nitpicking and/or not trying to figure out what I'm saying. I'm saying that throwing around suspicion to try and get a lynch going doesn't make someone suss. We're going to have to mislynch eventually, and day one mislynching is not the end of the world. We can come back from it, and get it right.

Also, the fact that Nimsy will be brave enough to throw around suspicion even as an innocent supports the idea that if Nimsy does it again, she won't automatically be mafia. She's done it as inno, so if she does it again why would she be mafia? If anything, calling someone out for: being quick to lynch, refusing to join a bandwagon, or wanting to point suss at someone in order to get more information is even more illogical than how you made my post look by using a fallacy.

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Originally Posted by JonathanMustang
I have nothing to say to that pointless posts you're doing.

So if I get this right, figuring out two of the dead people's roles before anyone else, and trying to show you why you're wrong/making a mistake is pointless posting.

Compared to someone trying to get someone else to reveal on day one because they visited a loudmouth, when the loudmouth lived.

Nimsy October 31st, 2015 8:41 AM

Just a quick reminder, bard voted for me purely out of retaliation.

He literally said, "And because I don't like being accused of extraterrestrial origins" and then voted for me.

Bidoof FTW October 31st, 2015 8:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyMustang (Post 8981998)
So, let me get this straight. Basically, you're bringing information from the skype chat and the behaviour of a player from another mafia game? Something doesn't add up.

I'm gonna quote myself here because the only thing you seem to do right is deffending nimsy at all costs.
If you don't analyze how a player behaves as both inno and mafia, then how will you be able to suss them out? For example, I knew Bact was evil in Blarz 2 because he wasn't contributing much discussion for the innos, something that he does when he's inno. It was the same with Bard in tDD, I knew he was the crone because he wasn't posting much, just posting for an attack and not much else. Also, the reason I'm defending Nimsy is because if throwing out suspicions on another player will cause a bandwagon on you every single time without revealing cop or something like that then I don't want to play mafia anymore.


When i did forced him to reveal? I said he should and he made his point, a pretty good one, did i say anything after that? Is the Bardwagon starting? Is the grudge you hold on me so big that you're willing to defend blindly someone who has done nothing but point fingers everywhere when she admitted that it was a random guess and that we shouldn't lynch her for that when she's being a hypocrite and doing that exact same thing?
I don't actually hold a grudge against you, you just seem to be able to frustrate me in most games, and I'm pretty sure that I used the words 'try to force him' not 'you forced him'. This choice of words changes the sentence greatly.

Sorry doof, you make no sense, neither does nimsy.
I feel as though my points are quite valid, but whatever you say meng

Comments are in bold

Bidoof FTW October 31st, 2015 9:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyMustang (Post 8982033)
So, basically nimsy's reasoning of just pointing fingers by random to back someone in a corner and force them to reveal is a better reasoning than say that "i THInK someone should reveal because i could foresee a bandwagon" ?

My point was that you shouldn't assume Nimsy is evil because she's pointing fingers, just like how I'm not lynching you for asking Bard to reveal. Do I think it was a bad play? Yes. Am I going to lynch you for it and say you're suss for it? No.

Nimsy October 31st, 2015 9:27 AM

I never said anything about forcing someone into a corner and making them reveal.

Once again, I haven't even voted yet.
If forcing a reveal was my intention I would have voted.

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You asked for a reveal before there was any votes against bard.

Asking for a reveal day 1 is in and with of itself suspicious.

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I said bard might be the alien and stated it was a guess.

Bard could be a number of things, that's why I didn't vote for him.

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I thought you asking for a reveal was suspicious so I said I think we should vote for johnny.

But you could just be bad at this, so I didn't vote.

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The moment I vote is when I am somewhat certain that I'm right.

Pecilia October 31st, 2015 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Golgari (Post 8981910)
Klippy was the widow, not the insomniac, or the florist. The widow.
Also Pecelia I literally made a post like 4 posts above yours saying that Klippy was the widow then you ask how Klippy and Mana were married.
COME ON PEOPLE IT'S ONLY DAY ONE

Since Johnny seemed keen on someone role revealing day 1, which I find suss as **** considering it's a really really bad idea.
[Execute] JonathanMustang

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Originally Posted by Milotic (Post 8981931)
Bard rolls with extremely long posts. You should be glad that his posts now are half as long as back at Blarz 1.

Also, I'm seriously confused on how some of you fail to tell that Klippers is the Widow...

It's really common sense. There's only one way to become lovers in this game: by becoming the Widow and then marrying someone. Since Klippers is part of the nursing home, and Mana is a third-party role, that means the Widow must be Klippers.

My bad. I've haven't had much time to really look through all the roles yet.

PrincePuffin October 31st, 2015 12:00 PM

So I am extremely confused. Who is everyone pointing the blame on this time? Because one moment it's one person, and the next it's another. This is extremely hard to follow.

Netto Azure October 31st, 2015 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyMustang (Post 8982033)
Since we're bringing information from the skype chat...

Hey ya'll just a reminder that you SHOULD be discussing game related stuff in the thread instead rather than the Skype chat.

[/modhatoff]

jdthebud October 31st, 2015 1:12 PM

Wow guys that was a real slugfest there Golgari and Johnny.

As for who to vote, I'm still waiting for those people who have yet to say anything, to do so.

alisaie October 31st, 2015 4:54 PM

wow i come on to see you guys doing something you're not supposed to be doing i am ashamed. ):

mr. rogers might not be able to recruit those who go out and visit another person, perhaps? that's the best i can think of unless he visited klippy. those are really the only two things i can think of that doesn't end in death.

Strange October 31st, 2015 5:14 PM

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Runaway

Has a 50% chance to run away from all actions used on them at night.
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Mr. Rogers had chosen his first recruit, but they were nowhere to be seen. How discouraging.
Maybe Mr. Rogers tried to recruit the runaway? I don't think that would kill him since technically he didn't fail to make them a respectable child, he just couldn't find them.

alisaie October 31st, 2015 6:20 PM

Ooooh didn't see that role. Yeah, that could be it, too. In that case he potentially got lucky seeing as it's 50/50 on whippersnappers

Melody October 31st, 2015 10:12 PM

[Execute] Golgari

Sorry to say this is kind of policy vote. I don't think what someone says in PUBLIC skype is necessarily evidence. Even if it is, it's a breach of game to consider it all that much. Especially given the tenuous conclusions you do have. If he had said directly, I'd believe it. (Yes Ive been lurking in chat today so I saw a lot.

You seem fixed on nimsy. This is interesting.

But also don't take my vote too seriously. I am casting it as randomly as yours seems to be cast. I advise nobody follow my vote. I am merely pointing out something I notice at first glance. Besides, when doesn't Johnny talk trash?

Salzorrah October 31st, 2015 11:25 PM

omg guys can we please get a hold of ourselves?

ALL WE KNOW IS THAT MANA AND BARD VISITED THE INSOMNIAC
KLIPPY IS THE WIDOWER AND MARRIED MANA

I personally don't think Bard is suss just yet, but I would like to know what third party roles that can visit? Maybe we can guess what Mana's role is. As for the Johnny x Golgari slugfest, just srsly stop... REALLY NOT HELPING. AT ALL.

Salzorrah October 31st, 2015 11:25 PM

omg guys can we please get a hold of ourselves?

ALL WE KNOW IS THAT MANA AND BARD VISITED THE INSOMNIAC
KLIPPY IS THE WIDOWER AND MARRIED MANA

I personally don't think Bard is suss just yet, but I would like to know what third party roles that can visit? Maybe we can guess what Mana's role is. As for the Johnny x Golgari slugfest, just srsly stop... REALLY NOT HELPING. AT ALL.


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