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WingedDragon October 30th, 2015 6:16 PM

Goodra
 
With the next online event happening in a few weeks. I have all the pieces I want to use but one. Goodra. I am not sure wither or not to use Gooey or Sap Sipper. I can see the purpose for both abilities, but with Breloom being available for the next event it makes me worried it will spam with Spore. However the moveset Im likely using wont benefit or may not justify Sap Sipper.

I have linked of all the pokes that are not allowed in the next competition. In addition to the normal bans

http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/information/7585b699-4c6f-4d5a-b3d7-12d31475099c

KorpiklaaniVodka October 30th, 2015 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WingedDragon (Post 8981513)
With the next online event happening in a few weeks. I have all the pieces I want to use but one. Goodra. I am not sure wither or not to use Gooey or Sap Sipper. I can see the purpose for both abilities, but with Breloom being available for the next event it makes me worried it will spam with Spore. However the moveset Im likely using wont benefit or may not justify Sap Sipper.

I have linked of all the pokes that are not allowed in the next competition. In addition to the normal bans

http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/information/7585b699-4c6f-4d5a-b3d7-12d31475099c

Sap Sipper is generally more effective, as an immunity to Leech Seed and Spore is very much appreciated. Also what moveset are you using?

WingedDragon October 30th, 2015 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KorpiklaaniVodka (Post 8981640)
Sap Sipper is generally more effective, as an immunity to Leech Seed and Spore is very much appreciated. Also what moveset are you using?

Most likely this set suggested by Smogon With my edits. I dont like the inaccurate nuking option. I'll likely reinvest the Evs elsewhere. Maybe Speed into Def and hp to make it slightly bulkier

Goodra @ Life Orb
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 72 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpA / 176 Spe
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Flamethrower
- Thunderbolt/Ice Beam
- Protect

PlatinumDude October 30th, 2015 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WingedDragon (Post 8981667)
Most likely this set suggested by Smogon With my edits. I dont like the inaccurate nuking option. I'll likely reinvest the Evs elsewhere. Maybe Speed into Def and hp to make it slightly bulkier

Goodra @ Life Orb
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 72 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpA / 176 Spe
Modest Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Flamethrower
- Thunderbolt/Ice Beam
- Protect

Don't bother with investing in Goodra's Speed. Goodra is better off going bulky, as 80 Speed isn't that fast. 16 Speed is enough to at least let Goodra outspeed max Speed Adamant Azumarill. Life Orb eats away at Goodra's bulk, which it sorely needs to tank hits. Assault Vest is the best item for Goodra to use, even if it means losing out on Protect. If you still want to use Protect for some reason, an alternate item is Sitrus Berry, Yache Berry, or Roseli Berry.

Other Dragon Pokemon like Salamence, Hydreigon, and Garchomp do full-on offensive roles better, as they have better offensive presence. Ice Beam is redundant with Goodra's Dragon STAB, so it's worthless:
-Draco Meteor/Dragon Pulse
-Fire Blast
-Sludge Bomb/Thunderbolt
-Muddy Water/Protect
Nature: Modest
EVs: 240 HP/252 SAtk/16 Spe
Item: Assault Vest/Sitrus Berry/Roseli Berry/Yache Berry
Ability: Sap Sipper

WingedDragon October 31st, 2015 7:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 8981671)
Don't bother with investing in Goodra's Speed. Goodra is better off going bulky, as 80 Speed isn't that fast. 16 Speed is enough to at least let Goodra outspeed max Speed Adamant Azumarill. Life Orb eats away at Goodra's bulk, which it sorely needs to tank hits. Assault Vest is the best item for Goodra to use, even if it means losing out on Protect. If you still want to use Protect for some reason, an alternate item is Sitrus Berry, Yache Berry, or Roseli Berry.

Other Dragon Pokemon like Salamence, Hydreigon, and Garchomp do full-on offensive roles better, as they have better offensive presence. Ice Beam is redundant with Goodra's Dragon STAB, so it's worthless:
-Draco Meteor/Dragon Pulse
-Fire Blast
-Sludge Bomb/Thunderbolt
-Muddy Water/Protect
Nature: Modest
EVs: 240 HP/252 SAtk/16 Spe
Item: Assault Vest/Sitrus Berry/Roseli Berry/Yache Berry
Ability: Sap Sipper


I asked about this one because next months online competition all the top VGC mons used are banned and needed an alternative


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