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Syndrome January 8th, 2016 11:46 AM

I didn't attack Johnny. I clearly investigated GP last night and gave you the report. I even informed you from the start that we could not do both on the same night. Who or whatever killed Johnny was not me.

Klippy January 8th, 2016 11:49 AM

Okay, here's what we know from the phase post.

1) The Rocket machine "thrashed about", dealing some worthwhile damage. That could explain Johnny, Syn, and I getting hit. Maybe it did one huge attack, and recoiled against two others.

2) Someone has a powerful item that formerly was picking up berries. Who are you and what is the item? It says they went around in a zigzag motion, so what Pokemon could that be?

txteclipse January 8th, 2016 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 9068320)
I didn't attack Johnny. I clearly investigated GP last night and gave you the report. I even informed you from the start that we could not do both on the same night. Who or whatever killed Johnny was not me.

80 damage looks exactly like Arceus' orbital nuke cannon attacking twice. I do not buy that anyone else could do that much damage with one night action. Convince me.

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Originally Posted by Klippy (Post 9068324)
1) The Rocket machine "thrashed about", dealing some worthwhile damage. That could explain Johnny, Syn, and I getting hit. Maybe it did one huge attack, and recoiled against two others.

I took this to mean that the machine got to attack twice, which is supported by the flavor text and the damage.

Syndrome January 8th, 2016 11:53 AM

Maybe the fact that there has never been a -40 on the same night that I've investigated someone...

gimmepie January 8th, 2016 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Klippy (Post 9068324)
It says they went around in a zigzag motion, so what Pokemon could that be?

Zigzagoon, although since it says "when it was a kid" or something like that it could mean it has since evolved into a Linoon.

txteclipse January 8th, 2016 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 9068333)
Maybe the fact that there has never been a -40 on the same night that I've investigated someone...

There's three of you. You've said yourself that you don't know exactly what the others' abilities are, so it's conceivable that Ash or whoever is playing Azelf called in the strike, no?

In any case, you're deflecting. You still haven't revealed who's playing Azelf, when right now it can only help your case unless you have something to hide.

Syndrome January 8th, 2016 12:25 PM

I said that, yes. In reference to their attacks and night actions. If you're trying to make me slip up, you won't, because I'm not lying.

txteclipse January 8th, 2016 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 9068370)
I said that, yes. In reference to their attacks and night actions. If you're trying to make me slip up, you won't, because I'm not lying.

So you're solely responsible for aiming Arceus at people, even though there's three of you?

Syndrome January 8th, 2016 12:28 PM

I can actually transfer the powers at any point, but that would be useless unless I'm going to die.

txteclipse January 8th, 2016 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 9068375)
I can actually transfer the powers at any point, but that would be useless unless I'm going to die.

Or you want to kill an explorer and investigate on the same night to appear innocent.

Syndrome January 8th, 2016 12:38 PM

Do you not grasp the concept that only one action can be done per night...even if I did attack someone and then transfer the powers that night they wouldn't be able to do anything.

If you're so uncertain that I'm actually helping the town, I could gladly stop investigating people and you could do your best to figure out who the last rocket / aqua / magma whatever are on your own. I'll just attack whoever I find suspicious at night.

Ullion January 8th, 2016 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Klippy (Post 9068278)
If Syn/Ash know who Azelf is, it's time to out them. They're refusal to do so is ridiculously suspicious.

Ullion and Ice Goddess have the least verifiable stories. What moves do they have? Maybe Mana missed them in his report, but that's apparently our "full reports/info available" list. I also like how I was conveniently moved to the Claimed list, despite having been in the Reports list every investigation prior.

I'm sorry, did you read the the day post explaining how a spider was attacking the same pokemon 3nights in a row? And at the start of each of the following 3 days I claimed to attack Superjolt/wiicked. Who turned out to be rocket. For the first two nights as well it was just based off of attacking an inactive. Tell me, if I were a Rocket - why would I attack my own inactive teammate 3 nights in a row at such a late point in the game? I don't understand how myclaim isn't verifiable? Wiicked even complained on the day he came back that he took the damage from me!

You can keep pointing your finger at me, but it seriously makes no sense. At the very least, as a Rocket - would I not try to aim at the inactive townies in the game? If I were a rocket, I also wouldn't have let everyone in the game know my entire role at the start of the second day phase - where if I ever did attack someone wrongfully, the entire thread would know about it. :P

gimmepie January 8th, 2016 12:42 PM

Can I just point out that there'd be no point in giving Syn an investigative role if he wasn't meant to help the town? That doesn't mean he's confirmed to be on our side, but it certainly supports his claim.

Klippy January 8th, 2016 1:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ullion (Post 9068399)
I'm sorry, did you read the the day post explaining how a spider was attacking the same pokemon 3nights in a row? And at the start of each of the following 3 days I claimed to attack Superjolt/wiicked. Who turned out to be rocket. For the first two nights as well it was just based off of attacking an inactive. Tell me, if I were a Rocket - why would I attack my own inactive teammate 3 nights in a row at such a late point in the game? I don't understand how myclaim isn't verifiable? Wiicked even complained on the day he came back that he took the damage from me!

You can keep pointing your finger at me, but it seriously makes no sense. At the very least, as a Rocket - would I not try to aim at the inactive townies in the game? If I were a rocket, I also wouldn't have let everyone in the game know my entire role at the start of the second day phase - where if I ever did attack someone wrongfully, the entire thread would know about it. :P

I guess I misspoke: Ullion and Ice Goddess, ON THAT REPORT, have the least verifiable stories. All that was listed was your Pokemon and his Pokemon. It was less info than any other person.

And if we have a Zigzagoon that means someone else is lying now too.

Ullion January 8th, 2016 1:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Klippy (Post 9068433)
I guess I misspoke: Ullion and Ice Goddess, ON THAT REPORT, have the least verifiable stories. All that was listed was your Pokemon and his Pokemon. It was less info than any other person.

And if we have a Zigzagoon that means someone else is lying now too.

Which is strange, seeing as how many times everyone in here has continously asked me what I do, despite revealing everything (pokemon name, move names etc) near the start of the game.

But if people want me to repeat myself for god knows how many times:
-I am Ariados
-I start with 75HP
-My day attack is Constrict (1 damage)
-My night attack is Night Shade (9 damage)
-I am aligned with the Explorers


If you want, I can fish through my PMs and list off all my attacks so far?

Klippy January 8th, 2016 1:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ullion (Post 9068467)
Which is strange, seeing as how many times everyone in here has continously asked me what I do, despite revealing everything (pokemon name, move names etc) near the start of the game.

But if people want me to repeat myself for god knows how many times:
-I am Ariados
-I start with 75HP
-My day attack is Constrict (1 damage)
-My night attack is Night Shade (9 damage)
-I am aligned with the Explorers


If you want, I can fish through my PMs and list off all my attacks so far?

So you're admitting you're suspicious.................. kidding. Thanks for putting it up clearly for everyone.

I think CapsFan and Ice Goddess are the two most suspicious at this point. Caps because the phase mentions something similar to what he is (Voltorb/Electrode) and Ice because he's the last unknown. I'd suggest Syn investigate him tonight.

Mana January 8th, 2016 1:56 PM

Klippy there's a Linoone on our list... Faer has already come out multiple times after your allegations.

Also no report has been done on you, specifically. Only Milotic. Therefore yours is a claim backed by another player imo. And since Aeternum only found out Milotic is an explorer the Plusle/Minun thing isn't even confirmed.

I'm still slightly suspicious of you both - on the off chance that you somehow have a way to appear innocent on reports.

Klippy January 8th, 2016 2:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mana (Post 9068492)
Klippy there's a Linoone on our list... Faer has already come out multiple times after your allegations.

Also no report has been done on you, specifically. Only Milotic. Therefore yours is a claim backed by another player imo. And since Aeternum only found out Milotic is an explorer the Plusle/Minun thing isn't even confirmed.

I'm still slightly suspicious of you both - on the off chance that you somehow have a way to appear innocent on reports.

My bad. I had no idea that was the same evo line. I think it's well-known I am not a Pokemon expert. :P Forgive me!

And okay, makes sense you changed it. Thought aeternum had checked us both. But I'm open to being investigated as well - on top of taking 10 damage last night from the machine Rocket used.

I've proven myself in other ways, such as leading attacks on two Rockets and, I believe, helping take out others as we went, and calling out a suspicious lynch on Johnny. But if there's one Rocket left; Candy and I can't both be suspicious and also both acknowledge each other as Plusle/Minun. We've been pretty straightforward about it since Candy joined the game though.

Mana January 8th, 2016 2:23 PM

I'm just pretty suspicious of most people :). You two came out very quickly is all.

gimmepie January 8th, 2016 2:24 PM

Didn't Weiss claim Keckleon at one point?

Juno January 8th, 2016 2:41 PM

I think Klippy was just saying we don't know as much about Weiss compared to the others since it just says "Kecleon" next to his name with no additional notes. When I wrote the thing I just condensed a bunch of information I didn't think I needed to add to the report (like how I shortened Ulli's whole claim to 'Ariados vig' because I thought it was well established what his role did and all :P), but like I said, the only other thing I remember about Weiss is that he asked aeternum to investigate him because he wasn't sure what alignment he would show up as.

Nakuzami January 8th, 2016 2:48 PM

Attack txteclipse

The constant asking for information that can't be legally shared and the rather circular reasoning is kind of annoying me

So

txteclipse January 8th, 2016 2:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nakuzami (Post 9068540)
Attack txteclipse

The constant asking for information that can't be legally shared and the rather circular reasoning is kind of annoying me

So

Who says it can't be legally shared?

Nakuzami January 8th, 2016 3:00 PM

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Originally Posted by txteclipse (Post 9068546)
Who says it can't be legally shared?

Well, for starters, Syn has multiple times, but you don't seem to be reading his posts all that closely

And in general, people aren't allowed to share the identities of players that they know from the start due to alignment. Sometimes they can hint at them, but if the hint is too obvious it is considered to be revealing that player, and that comes with consequences.

Game throwing isn't nice, friends.

In this case, it might not be considered game throwing to a great extent, but the same general rules apply.

txteclipse January 8th, 2016 3:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nakuzami (Post 9068548)
Well, for starters, Syn has multiple times, but you don't seem to be reading his posts all that closely

And in general, people aren't allowed to share the identities of players that they know from the start due to alignment. Sometimes they can hint at them, but if the hint is too obvious it is considered to be revealing that player, and that comes with consequences.

Game throwing isn't nice, friends.

In this case, it might now be considered game throwing to a great extent, but the same general rules apply.

Okay cool, see, this is helpful. This is my first game with more than just mafia and innocents, which typically doesn't present this issue (I mean, a mafia person could tell people who the other mafia are, but that's...no).

So...I apologize. Carry on.


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